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A09112 The vvarn-vvord to Sir Francis Hastinges wast-word conteyning the issue of three former treateses, the Watch-word, the Ward-word and the Wast-word (intituled by Sir Francis, an Apologie or defence of his Watch-word) togeather with certaine admonitions & warnings to thesaid [sic] knight and his followers. Wherunto is adioyned a breif reiection of an insolent, and vaunting minister masked with the letters O.E. who hath taken vpon him to wryte of thesame [sic] argument in supply of the knight. There go also foure seueral tables, one of the chapters, another of the controuersies, the third of the cheif shiftes, and deceits, the fourth of the parricular [sic] matters conteyned in the whole book. By N.D. author of the Ward-word. Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 19418; ESTC S114221 315,922 580

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his_o calendar_n for_o a_o solemn_a martyr_n in_o red_a letter_n upon_o the_o second_o day_n of_o may._n and_o the_o like_a i_o may_v also_o show_v of_o the_o waldense_n albigense_n pauperes_fw-la de_fw-fr lugduno_n and_o many_o other_o base_a and_o desperate_a heretic_n which_o john_n fox_n in_o his_o protestation_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o england_n do_v allow_v for_o saint_n of_o his_o faith_n 10._o fox_n protest_v pag._n 10._o whereas_o notwithstanding_o they_o hold_v many_o more_o thing_n against_o he_o then_o with_o he_o and_o some_o so_o beastly_a that_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v name_v as_o for_o john_n wickcliff_n there_o need_v no_o dispute_n or_o other_o proof_n than_o john_n fox_n himself_o and_o his_o own_o testimony_n etc._n john_n wickliff_n fox_n pag._n 411.412.413_o etc._n etc._n for_o he_o confess_v that_o he_o die_v in_o lincolnshire_n in_o his_o own_o benefice_n and_o bed_n and_o yet_o he_o put_v he_o in_o his_o calendar_n for_o a_o martyr_n the_o 2._o 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oxford_n etc._n etc._n so_o say_v fox_n but_o he_o conceal_v one_o thing_n which_o be_v that_o coubridge_n his_o cause_n be_v send_v by_o the_o bishop_n to_o the_o l._n cromwell_n vicegerent_n to_o the_o king_n at_o this_o time_n in_o spiritual_a affair_n and_o that_o by_o his_o voice_n also_o he_o be_v condemn_v as_o alanus_n copus_n in_o the_o foresay_a place_n do_v show_v but_o how_o soever_o this_o be_v if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o william_n coubridge_n be_v mad_a and_o beside_o his_o sense_n as_o fox_n here_o for_o his_o excuse_n devise_v how_o happen_v it_o then_o that_o himself_o make_v he_o a_o martyr_n of_o his_o church_n &_o do_v register_v he_o under_o that_o name_n and_o worthy_a title_n in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a calendar_n upon_o the_o 10._o of_o october_n a_o 1539._o be_v not_o this_o to_o make_v mad_a and_o furious_a man_n pillar_n of_o his_o new_a church_n the_o last_o be_v one_o collyns_n of_o who_o fox_n write_v thus_o 1033._o colyns_n and_o his_o dog_n fox_n 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