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a_o way_n more_o congruous_a to_o your_o function_n and_o cheap_a to_o your_o conscience_n to_o condescend_v 〈◊〉_d these_o term_n and_o prove_v to_o we_o what_o this_o same_o rule_n be_v than_o to_o tell_v the_o magistrate_n that_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n not_o to_o endure_v we_o §_o 14._o pag._n 16_o 17_o 18_o 19_o you_o come_v to_o tell_v we_o what_o separation_n it_o be_v noâ—_n which_o you_o speak_v of_o viz._n not_o of_o the_o separation_n or_o distinct_a communion_n of_o 〈◊〉_d church_n from_o each_o other_o etc._n etc._n answ_n you_o know_v it_o be_v like_o yourself_o what_o 〈◊〉_d mean_v by_o these_o word_n if_o you_o will_v have_v we_o know_v it_o i_o must_v crave_v yoâ—_n answer_v to_o these_o question_n qu._n 1._o do_v you_o make_v separation_n and_o distinct_a communion_n the_o same_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d divers_a qu._n 2._o what_o distinction_n of_o communion_n be_v it_o that_o you_o mean_v when_o there_o be_v 〈◊〉_d many_o thing_n which_o may_v distinguish_v 1._o communion_n in_o 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