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A69250	Newes from France containing tvvo declarations of two new conuerts from the Church of Rome to the reformed churches of France: the former made by Master M. du Tertrf [sic], Lord de la Motthe Luyne, late preacher amongst the order of the Capucins vnder the name of F. Firmin, &c. at Saumur on the 27. of May last: the latter by the Marquise Boniuet, Lord of Creuecœur, &c. at Rochell on the seuenth of August last. Both translated out of the seuerall French copies into English by E.M. of Christ-Church in Oxford. Whereunto is added an English letter sent from Paris by an English gentleman to his friend in England, touching the late surprisall and imprisonment of the Prince of Conde, which happened on the 22. of August last.; Declaration and manifestation, of the chiefe reasons and motives of the conversion of Master M. du Tertre, Lord de la Motthe Luyne.	Bonnivet, Henri Marc de Gouffier, Marquis de, d. 1589. Declaration de Henri-Marc de Gouffier. aut; Meetkerke, Edward, 1590-1657, attributed name.	1616 (1616)	STC 7372; ESTC S117179	43,123	84

beholden and indebted to them whence it is not very hard to consider acknowledge and iudge whether the true humilitie which is essentiall to Christianitie and so beseeming it yea the fairest and richest ornament of a true beleeuer can be in them who not onely maintaine and wilfully defend such a doctrine but doe glory therein and doe oppugne and persecute euen to the fire and bloud those which on the contrary forsaking themselues and all that can come from their owne strength and merits haue no other refuge prop foundation and assurance for their eternall saluation then in the meere bountie grace mercy and free pardon of God in Iesus Christ his Sonne his merit and intercession Hee should neuer haue done that would relate shew and set to view all the abuses and errours touching the points of faith necessary to saluation Gather only and iudge out of that little which the shortnesse of the time this discourse giues me leaue to speake whether the first ground and foundation of saluation premised and supposed to wit a true faith and beleefe in Iesus Christ such as the Scripture declareth and requireth of vs is and can bee found in your Church in which is taught and preached a doctrine so diametrally contrary and opposite to it yea against all reason and whether I haue had iust cause and occasion to withdraw my selfe from thence and you also are bound to doe the like in case that you and I desire to worke out our saluation But that which is worse and more to be lamented euen with teares of bloud if it were possible is that for the most part amongst those of your Church there is no more any faith or law or God or religion at all but by a lamentable euent permitted notwithstanding by Gods prouidence for the iust punishment of their deserts are fallen into a grosse ignorance of matters of God I will not say into Atheisme and is fulfilled in them compleatly and in all points that which the Apostle S. Paul hath sometimes spoken of the Gentiles Pagans and Idolaters in the first to the Romans namely that hauing knowne God they glorified him not as God neither were thankfull but became vaine in their imaginations and their foolish heart was darkened professing themselues to be wise they became fooles and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to a corruptible man c. And who then would not withdraw himselfe from men so blinded and giuen ouer to errour and the darkenesse of ignorance Now if their faith be such or for to speak aright more properly their vnbeliefe so great what can bee hoped and looked for of the other I meane of the manners of their life indeede it is very likely that such as is the doctrine such will be the life and manners namely peruerted and corrupted c. And this is it which now in order I am to shew to you and set to your view Let vs begin with charity the loue and affection towardes God and our neighbour the true ground of all Christianity and the second firme and assured foundation of eternall saluation as wee haue said and declared before As for the first the true testimony the certaine and vndoubted proofe thereof amongst many that might be giuen and alleaged is an heartie and louing zeale and affection to his honour worship and seruice and to the true obseruing of his lawes and ordinances and the entire and perfect fulfilling of his holy will as farre as our weakenes and frailtie can suffer vs and the estate and condition of our corrupt and infected nature can permit and beare it If you loue mee saith our Sauiour speaking of this loue to his Apostles and Disciples and to vs in their persons and in the 14. of S. Iohn keepe my commandements He that hath my commandements and keepes them hee it is that loues mee And this hee repeats many and diuers times and amongst others that well beloued and fauoured Disciple in the second Chapter of his first Catholike Epistle confirmes it He that keepes his word the loue of God saith he is truely accomplished and perfected in him As on the contrary the true and infallible signe of the want the defect of the loue of God is not to care for to keepe and obserue his lawes and precepts as besides reason it selfe which is cleere and plaine for it our Sauiour in the same place before alleaged of the Euangelist Saint Iohn doth say Hee that loueth mee not saith he doth not keepe my words and the same Saint Iohn in the fore-cited places He that saith I haue knowne him and yet doth not keep his precepts and commandements he liar and the truth is not in him As for Gods honour worship and seruice it is double and of two sorts externall outward and of the body such as he prescriheth vnto vs in his word namely that Liturgy or outward and publike seruice wherewith hee will be honoured euen publikely in his Church consisting of the duties of piety and the externall actions of religion which doe shew and testifie some humilitie deiection submission affection and acknowledgement of the minde towards his diuine maiesty Internall inward in the soule and inmost part of the minde by a true acknowledging of his immense and infinite excellence perfection and greatnesse and of the sundry and innumerable obligations wee owe him with an humble submission a most deiected humilitie and low deiection before his supreame maiesty honouring adoring fearing respecting cherishing and louing him with all the strength and power of our soules the faculties of our mindes and the affections of our hearts as our onely blisse and chiefe master and Lord from whom we hold by meere dependance and free bountifull and liberall communication all what wee are what wee haue and what wee can at any time challenge looke and hope for both in this life and in the other referring in the meane time and giuing ouer our selues and all what belongs to vs or concernes vs our liues persons goods health honours affaires and other the like wholly to his diuine prouidence to the end that he may do with them as he shall thinke fitting and according to his pleasure and sacred will as belonging wholly to him with a true confidence certain firme hope and an vndoubted assurance of his diuine goodnesse infinite mercy and promises of saluation and this is the chiefe honour worship and seruice that God wishes desires and demaunds of vs as sheweth very wel the Sonne of God himselfe Iesus Christ our Sauiour answering to the question of the Samaritan woman The true worshippers saith he shall worship the Father in spirit and truth and such are those he desires demands and seekes after And hee giueth the reason thereof Because God is a spirit therfore his worship ought to be spirituall internall and in the truth of the heart answerable to his nature by so much more noble

Newes from France CONTAINING Tvvo DECLARATIONS OF TWO NEW CONVERTS from the Church of ROME to the reformed Churches of FRANCE the former made by Master M. du TERTRE Lord de la MOTTHE LVYNE late Preacher amongst the Order of the CAPVCINS vnder the name of F. FIRMIN c. at SAVMVR on the 27. of May last The latter by the Marquise BONIVET Lord of CREVE COEVR c. at ROCHELL on the seuenth of August last Both translated out of the seuerall French copies into English by E. M. of CHRIST-CHVRCH in OXFORD Whereunto is added an English Letter sent from PARIS by an English Gentleman to his friend in England touching the late surprisall and imprisonment of the Prince of Conde which happened on the 22. of August last LONDON Printed by Edward Griffin for Nathaniel Butter dwelling neere S. Austins gate at the signe of the Pide-Bull 1616. TO THE REVEREND right Worshipfull and my worthy friend Mr. Doctour GOODVVIN Doctour in Diuinitie and Deane of Christ-Church in OXFORD the Translator wisheth all happinesse both in body and soule Reuerend and Right Worshipfull HAuing within these few daies lighted vpon this booke by the meanes of a familiar friend of mine who lately had receiued it out of France and considering the happy subiect and methodicall composure thereof I thought it would not be amisse nay rather a very profitable worke for the Church at least for the bringing home of such of whom there is yet good hope they may be reclaimed if I did set by some few of these vacation houres for the translating thereof And I was the rather induced thereunto by reason of a more particular charge which not long since it pleased you to lay vpon me to the performing whereof this might with Gods helpe not a little auaile The points perhaps that are handled in this Treatise or at least most of them haue beene formerly and often discussed to the full by others but yet very seldome would to God it happened more often by way of recantation or reclaiming and if in that manner as of late we haue had an example thereof and our Presse is yet hot with it I would our affections were so also yet most seldome by men of my Authors coat by such I meane who are so farre gone and sunke so deepe into the whirle-poole of their superstitions that they haue with a neerer bond and as it were an apprentiship for terme of life bound themselues neuer to depart I will not say from their religion for that is common to them with others but from their particular order and quintessence as it were of religion it being from thence that such only and no others either of their Clergie or Laitie are called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and by way of eminencie religious Hauing thus shewed the profit which I trust may come from this my small endeuour or rather from the Authors owne labours trauels his indeed being as the very waters of life the only tasting whereof is salvificall and mine but the channell to conuey them it remaines now that I recommend this my labour to your patronage from whom I first receiued the occasion of taking it in hand I will not now stand vpon Apologies as the manner of most is either for my selfe or the booke The booke I am sure needs none and for my selfe I trust I haue met with a Patron that wil reade me without any Apologie If any shall thinke I haue beene too busie herein it being a subiect for the which I am scarce ripe let him know thus much that what I haue done may be the worke nay ought of dutie so to be I say not of euery Diuine Quanquam ô would to God euery such would put to their helping hands but of euery one that is onely brought vp in the bare schoole of Christianitie Thus committing my selfe and these my labours to your good acceptance I pray to the Almighty God that he will continue and confirme in his Church those that to all appearance are in already with the ninety and nine of that good Shepheard in the Gospell and that it will please him with the same Shepheard who brought home his one sheepe daily to bring home and adde vnto his true Church such as either by others seducing haue straied from or out of forced ignorance neuer could finde the way to his fold Amen From my Study in christ-Christ-Church Oxford this 31. of Iuly 1616. The Authors Epistle to my Masters of the Romish Church SIrs I haue a long while debated and disputed with my selfe whether I should set to your view the causes and reasons of my retreate from you and your Church and of my conuersion and vnion to the Reformed ones of this Kingdome and their societie and company On the one side the sinceritie of my intention in this charge seemed wholly to diuert turne and hinder me from so doing as caring very little what men thought spake or esteemed of it so that my actions were pleasing and acceptable to the supreame and eternall maiesty of my God conformable to his holy and diuine will tending and redounding to his honour and glory and aduantagious and profitable for mine owne good and saluation And besides contenting my selfe with that which I haue spoken treated and declared thereof in my Profession made in the Church of this Citie the 24. of April But on the other side the duties and obligations which I owe to the truth ioyned with the most affectionate suits and opportunities which almost an infinite number haue vsed towards me and often reiterated and the calumnies and slaunders wherewith many amongst you though vniustly and wrongfully doe charge me doe force and constraine me to set downe in this paper produce to the day and bring to light that which almost I then said of it this only excepted that now I will enlarge my selfe a little more then the shortnesse of the time and discourse could at that time permit me I haue thought and beleeued that I could not more iustly and with better reason and equitie direct this Treatise to any then to those from whom I separated my selfe to the end I might take from them the idle and light opinions and the bad beliefes farre remoued from piety and honesty and remoue the scandall which they might haue conceiued therevpon Receiue it therefore I pray you with the same gentlenes and sincerity of affection with the which I offer and present it vnto you And doe mee the fauour to take the paines to read it but with quietnesse if it please you and tranquillity of minde without trouble and passion And I hope nay I am certaine and assure my selfe that you shall finde that there is more reason and knowledge in my action then you thinke and more obligation to follow me and to do that which I haue done then you imagine To this end I doe open all the secrets of my heart and foulds of my soule before the Maiesty of my

resort and haue our refuge to the Saints and blessed ones and that a thousand other such like things which you beleeue and your Doctors teach and preach ought to be held for Articles of faith there not being any trace or ground of them in the sacred Scripture the true rule of that which ought to be beleeued and done Not being able I say to perswade my selfe that that was the true Church in the which the true faith and the doctrine of the Gospell was held and taught wherein the manners life and actions were so contrary and opposite vnto them and the corruption so great and vniuersally diffused and extended throughout But those were but small light and vaine Ideaes which went no farther by reason of the negligence as I beleeue in the which the watchings which I bestowed on my studies and other businesses kept me asleepe as also by reason of the age whereof I was which for that time did not giue me more liuely conceits thereof for want of some body that might haue heartened them on farther as indeed I was bred in the midst of them who beleeued and did the quite contrary Thus did my simplicitie hatch my ignorance wherein I liued fiue or six whole yeers since this first glimpse of light which did kindle in my soule and heart this desire and affection of the truth and to returne to this first spring and originall of the faith and manners of the Apostles and Disciples of the Sonne of God our Sauiour yet of that very Sauiour from whom by processe of time euen your Church hath swarued At the end of which yeeres finally it hath pleased that supreme goodnesse and maiestie which doth impart and communicate his graces and fauours to whom he thinkes good yea oftentimes to least worthy and capable subiects and makes the splendor of his euerlasting light to cast his beames on those soules that are deepest plunged into the obscuritie of darknesse to poure out on mine the amplitude and greatnesse of his heauenly and diuine benedictions and to make mee to see abundantly purely and to the full in their owne essence and naturall day both the truth and falshood and to harden strengthen and encourage my minde for to embrace valorously the one and to reiect the other against all the obiects and representations of humane reason the attractiue and alluring perswasions of nature the impetuous assaults of flesh and bloud and the strong suggestions and temptations of the deuill and the furious and bloudy combats of hell Whereupon I am and shall alwayes be obliged vnto him ouer and aboue all the obligations which I owe vnto him already in number almost infinite and I doe blesse praise wil praise him to al eternitie yea all the holy Angels of heauen and iust men of the earth which whereas the enuious hatefull and ill willers haue their foreheads wrinkled will be glad for me and reioyce at my departure and conuension This my change then hath no other scope and aimeth purely and simply as I haue already said at nothing but the glory of my God and the assurance of my saluation which I haue truly found out and sweare and protest that I could not haue attained vnto and wrought out in that state wherein I was vnderstand I pray you and hearken to the reasons thereof The two grounds and foundations of all Christian religion and consequently of euerlasting saluation are faith and charitie without which neither one nor the other can remaine and continue standing faith I say in Christ He that beleeues in me saith he shall not come into iudgement but he that beleeueth not is already condemned Not any faith whatsoeuer but such as God and the holy Scripture doe demand and require of vs not languishing dead grounded on humane inuentions and traditions but purely and simply on Gods word animated and quickned by the spirit of grace accompanied with good workes Charitie not fained dissembled in shew only but as the Apostle saith proceeding from a pure and cleane heart from a good conscience from an vnfained faith and a loyaltie not counterfeted The same S. Paul speaking of the first in the 1. Epist to the Corinthians chap. 3. saith it clearely and in very expresse termes According to the grace of God which is giuen vnto me as a wise master-builder I haue saith he laid the foundation and another buildeth thereon But let euery man take heede how he buildeth thereupon for other foundation can no man lay then that is laid which is Iesus Christ Now if any man build vpon this foundation gold siluer c. Where you see cleerely how vnder the metaphore and comparison of a materiall edifice and building which that it may be firme sound and lasting hath necessarily neede of a good strong foundation of firme and hard stones laid very farre and deepe in the ground he declareth signifieth and giueth cleerely to vnderstand that the true faith and beleefe in Iesus Christ our Sauiour such as he teacheth and sheweth vs in his writings is the true sure and onely foundation and the solid and setled ground-worke of all Christian religion and consequently by a necessary sequele of euerlasting saluation according to my proposition which for this first point remaines enough by this place and sufficiently proued As also no man doth deny it and call it in question but all generally doe admit and receiue it for a certaine and assured ground Let vs come to the proofe of the second point thereof to wit of Charitie I had need of more time then the shortnesse of this discourse can affoord mee for to relate all the places of holy Scripture making for this purpose That namely is manifest and cleare by the very words of our Sauiour when as being asked of that Doctour of the Law or Scribe and Pharisie which was the first the greatest and chiefe commandement thereof and hauing made answer that it was to loue God with all his heart with all his soule c. and his neighbour as himselfe he addeth that in these two points were comprised and contained closed and shut vp the whole Law and the Prophets and consequently by a necessary sequele and infallible conclusion all religion grounded and saluation established as on two solid and firme foundations without the which neither one nor the other as I haue already said can remaine and continue standing Now let vs see whether those two grounds and bases of saluation be or can be found in your Church and in the state and condition from whence I am departed to the end that from thence you may know and iudge whether I haue had iust cause and lawfull occasion to doe this or no and that the tongues that make themselues malicious and slanderous may cease from their calumnious assaults and pursuits And to begin with the faith and beleefe in Iesus Christ wee haue amongst many others three things to be considered in him 1. his person 2.