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to_o himself_o b._n solebat_fw-la hunc_fw-la creber_n ob_fw-la magnum_fw-la castigandi_fw-la corporis_fw-la affectum_fw-la ingredi_fw-la ac_fw-la saepius_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la supermeantibus_fw-la undis_fw-la immergi_fw-la refluentibus_fw-la circa_fw-la cum_fw-la semifractarum_fw-la crustis_fw-la glacierum_fw-la quas_fw-la &_o ipse_fw-la aliquando_fw-la contriverat_fw-la quò_fw-la haberet_fw-la locum_fw-la standi_fw-la sive_fw-la immâ—rgendi_fw-la se_fw-la in_o fluvio_fw-la bed_n eccl._n hist_o l._n 5._o c._n 13._o fol._n 223._o a._n b._n he_o have_v it_o twice_o and_o within_o the_o compass_n of_o a_o few_o line_n §_o 74._o three_o because_o the_o reason_n 14._o sed_fw-la in_o provinciâ_fw-la deirorum_fw-la ubi_fw-la saepius_fw-la manere_fw-la cum_fw-la rege_fw-la solebat_fw-la baptizabat_fw-la in_o fluvio_fw-la sualva_n qui_fw-la vicum_fw-la juxta_fw-la cataractam_fw-la praeterfluit_fw-la nondum_fw-la enim_fw-la oratoria_fw-la vel_fw-la baptisteria_fw-it in_fw-it ipso_fw-la exordio_fw-la nascentis_fw-la ibi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la poterant_fw-la aedificari_fw-la id._n ib._n l._n 2._o c._n 14._o which_o he_o give_v why_o man_n be_v then_o baptize_v in_o river_n be_v not_o fetch_v from_o any_o thing_n in_o the_o nature_n of_o baptism_n require_v baptization_n in_o such_o place_n as_o because_o man_n shall_v be_v total_o dip_v when_o baptize_v and_o the_o best_a conveniency_n for_o such_o baptise_v be_v there_o but_o because_o in_o the_o infancy_n of_o that_o church_n which_o be_v then_o but_o in_o its_o nativity_n oratory_n or_o baptistery_n can_v not_o be_v build_v which_o suppose_v that_o it_o be_v not_o choice_n but_o want_v of_o other_o conveniency_n which_o then_o lead_v to_o that_o river-baptizing_a and_o that_o have_v there_o be_v font_n in_o church_n in_o those_o church_n and_o at_o those_o font_n shall_v the_o people_n too_o have_v be_v baptize_v as_o well_o as_o the_o king_n we_o speak_v of_o before_o have_v be_v §_o 75._o four_o in_o several_a 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milites_fw-la sacrosancto_fw-la fonte_fw-la abluebat_fw-la ib._n l._n 4._o c._n 13._o fol._n 165._o a_o omnes_fw-la fide_fw-la christi_fw-la institutos_fw-la undá_fw-la baptismatis_fw-la abluit_fw-la ib._n fol._n 166._o b._n plebem_fw-la christi_fw-la lavacro_fw-la remissionis_fw-la abluere_fw-la ib._n l._n 2._o c._n 14._o fol._n 80._o b._n nec_fw-la multo_fw-la post_fw-la plene_fw-la curatus_fw-la vitali_fw-la etiam_fw-la undâ_fw-la perfusus_fw-la sum_fw-la id._n ib._n l._n 5._o c._n 6._o fol._n 209._o b._n as_o not_o only_o do_v not_o by_o the_o mere_a power_n of_o their_o own_o significancy_n import_v dip_v but_o be_v sometime_o use_v to_o denote_v a_o distinct_a manner_n of_o baptise_v differ_v from_o that_o as_o be_v sufficient_o show_v in_o these_o paper_n such_o as_o tingo_fw-la and_o undâ_fw-la perfundo_fw-la etc._n etc._n §_o 76._o last_o i_o meet_v in_o bede_n with_o a_o relation_n of_o a_o baptism_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o or_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o forego_n 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st._n grégory_n with_o the_o reason_n also_o of_o his_o judgement_n shall_v be_v administer_v in_o a_o way_n of_o more_o mercy_n and_o less_o danger_n 36._o quia_fw-la sancti_fw-la mysterii_fw-la gratia_fw-la sicut_fw-la viventibus_fw-la atque_fw-la discernontibus_fw-la cum_fw-la magnâ_fw-la discretione_fw-la providenda_fw-la est_fw-la ita_fw-la his_fw-la quibus_fw-la mors_fw-la imminet_fw-la sine_fw-la ullâ_fw-la dilatione_fw-la offerenda_fw-la ne_fw-la dum_fw-la adhuc_fw-la tempus_fw-la ad_fw-la praebendum_fw-la redemptionis_fw-la mysterium_fw-la quaeritur_fw-la interveniente_fw-la paululum_fw-la morâ_fw-la inveniri_fw-la non_fw-la valeat_fw-la qui_fw-la redimatur_fw-la bed_n eccl._n hist_o gent._n angl._n l._n 1._o c._n 27._o fol._n 36._o than_o that_o of_o a_o total_a immersion_n even_o by_o sprinkle_v or_o pour_v on_o of_o water_n §_o 78._o and_o with_o the_o same_o caution_n of_o not_o baptise_v by_o a_o total_a immersion_n but_o by_o affusion_n or_o aspersion_n be_v that_o constitution_n of_o egbert_n archbishop_n of_o york_n order_v about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 750._o unquestionable_o to_o be_v understand_v whereby_o all_o priest_n be_v enjoin_v 259._o ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la quibuscunque_fw-la horis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la indigentibus_fw-la baptismum_fw-la infirmitatis_fw-la causa_fw-la diligentissime_fw-la tribuant_fw-la excerpt_v 10._o dom._n egberti_n archiep._n eborac_n ap_fw-mi spelman_n council_n anglic._n tom._n 1._o p._n 259._o in_o case_n of_o infirmity_n with_o great_a diligence_n to_o administer_v baptism_n at_o any_o hour_n whatsoever_o to_o all_o that_o need_v it_o for_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a to_o think_v that_o the_o cruelty_n of_o a_o total_a immersion_n be_v ever_o design_v in_o so_o merciful_a a_o constitution_n §_o 79._o in_o the_o nine_o century_n an._n chr._n 826._o as_o baronius_n in_o his_o annal_n inform_v we_o come_v herialdus_n king_n of_o the_o northman_n or_o dane_n with_o his_o wife_n and_o a_o great_a 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what_o he_o say_v after_o of_o the_o same_o particle_n when_o join_v to_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o verse_n and_o he_o tell_v you_o that_o he_o note_v this_o lest_o any_o shall_v think_v there_o be_v any_o force_n in_o this_o particle_n which_o they_o seem_v to_o be_v persuade_v of_o who_o do_v not_o think_v child_n right_o baptize_v unless_o they_o be_v total_o dip_v and_o in_o his_o note_n on_o mark_n 1.8_o where_o the_o same_o preposition_n come_v again_o with_o the_o same_o word_n he_o say_v of_o the_o pleonasm_n i._n e._n redundancy_n of_o the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o have_v speak_v elsewhere_o which_o true_o be_v to_o be_v note_v in_o this_o place_n lest_o any_o altogether_o unskilful_a person_n shall_v take_v in_o aqua_n for_o intra_fw-la aquam_fw-la of_o which_o kind_n of_o foppery_n the_o book_n of_o sophister_n be_v full_a §_o 45._o and_o though_o beza_n do_v elsewhere_o declare_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v proper_o signify_v tingendi_fw-la causâ_fw-la immergere_fw-la to_o dip_v in_o order_n unto_o die_v and_o that_o it_o signify_v not_o to_o wash_v but_o by_o consequence_n yet_o 1_o he_o do_v not_o always_o render_v it_o by_o immergo_fw-la but_o sometime_o by_o lavo_fw-la and_o particular_o in_o mark_n 7.4_o where_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o have_v loti_fw-la fuerint_fw-la and_o for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lotiones_fw-la and_o on_o luke_n 11.38_o he_o say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mean_v the_o same_o in_o that_o place_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v i._n e._n in_o general_a to_o wash_v and_o particular_o to_o wash_v the_o hand_n of_o which_o i_o have_v speak_v before_o ch_n 5._o and_o 2._o in_o his_o ep._n 2._o tract_n theolog._n vol._n 3._o p._n 195._o he_o maintain_v they_o to_o be_v right_o baptize_v who_o be_v baptize_v but_o by_o sprinkle_v though_o the_o word_n do_v signify_v dip_v no_o diminution_n be_v make_v of_o baptism_n by_o the_o change_n of_o a_o circumstance_n in_o it_o whilst_o what_o be_v substantial_a in_o it_o be_v retain_v as_o i_o shall_v show_v more_o at_o large_a in_o these_o paper_n c._n penult_n but_o to_o go_v on_o §_o 46._o selden_n that_o university_n of_o scholar_n in_o one_o man_n and_o a_o gentleman_n not_o to_o be_v mention_v without_o some_o signification_n of_o respect_n though_o here_o he_o have_v none_o give_v he_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la nat._n etc._n etc._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o as_o mr._n d._n tell_v we_o say_v that_o the_o jew_n from_o who_o this_o rite_n be_v conceive_v to_o come_v take_v the_o baptism_n wherein_o the_o whole_a body_n be_v not_o baptize_v to_o be_v void_a §_o 47._o i_o believe_v mr._n d._n to_o be_v fair_a in_o this_o report_n though_o i_o have_v not_o the_o author_n to_o consult_v but_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o christian_n be_v not_o so_o scrupulous_a about_o the_o business_n as_o the_o jew_n be_v nor_o do_v i_o believe_v mr._n danvers_n himself_o or_o any_o of_o his_o party_n will_v think_v a_o baptism_n void_a in_o case_n one_o hair_n of_o a_o head_n shall_v chance_v to_o miss_v dip_v as_o a_o jew_n will_v some_o few_o may_v have_v ancient_o question_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o the_o baptism_n that_o be_v not_o administer_v by_o a_o total_a immersion_n though_o i_o remember_v but_o one_o that_o do_v it_o and_o of_o late_a some_o more_o have_v do_v it_o but_o the_o generality_n of_o christian_n both_o be_v and_o have_v be_v ancient_o satisfy_v with_o it_o though_o do_v other_o way_n and_o in_o some_o circumstantial_a point_n a_o thing_n may_v fail_v of_o be_v exact_o according_a to_o the_o accurate_a prescription_n of_o the_o law_n or_o rule_n of_o custom_n and_o yet_o not_o be_v invalid_a for_o all_o that_o whilst_o nothing_o of_o substance_n be_v omit_v as_o for_o instance_n a_o marriage_n without_o a_o ring_n or_o a_o baptism_n without_o a_o cross_n though_o it_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v do_v so_o yet_o be_v so_o do_v it_o will_v stand_v good_a fieri_fw-la non_fw-la debuit_fw-la factum_fw-la valuit_fw-la yea_o mr._n selden_n quote_v a_o say_n from_o the_o rabbi_n ideo_fw-la nec_fw-la sabbato_fw-la baptismus_fw-la rite_n satis_fw-la adhibebatur_fw-la nec_fw-la die_fw-la festo_fw-la nec_fw-la noctu_fw-la quibus_fw-la temporibus_fw-la nihilominus_fw-la si_fw-la forte_fw-fr adhiberetur_fw-la proselytus_fw-la quidem_fw-la be_v erat_fw-la qui_fw-la sic_fw-la baptizatus_fw-la actus_fw-la scilicet_fw-la say_v mr._n selden_n non_fw-la irritus_fw-la erat_fw-la tametsi_fw-la fieri_fw-la non_fw-la debuisset_fw-la seld._n de_fw-fr jure_fw-la nat._n &_o gent._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o p._n 143._o §_o 48._o second_o i_o answer_v that_o unless_o
christian_n have_v be_v indispensable_o oblige_v by_o some_o precept_n to_o a_o exact_a conformity_n herein_o with_o the_o jew_n their_o practice_n be_v no_o tie_n on_o we_o but_o as_o the_o dipper_n i_o think_v be_v unable_a to_o prove_v the_o one_o so_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v satisfactory_o in_o these_o paper_n prove_v the_o other_o v._n ch_n 8._o §_o 49._o mr._n daniel_n rogers_n to_o pass_v on_o to_o he_o in_o his_o treatise_n of_o sacrament_n part._n 1._o c._n 8._o p._n 177._o it_o shall_v be_v ch_n 5._o p._n 69._o and_o 70._o say_v as_o mr._n d._n report_v he_o that_o the_o minister_n be_v to_o dip_v in_o water_n as_o the_o meet_a act_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d note_n it_o for_o the_o greek_n want_v not_o other_o word_n to_o express_v any_o other_o act_n beside_o dip_v if_o the_o institution_n can_v bear_v it_o what_o resemblance_n of_o the_o burial_n or_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n be_v in_o sprinkle_v all_o antiquity_n and_o scripture_n say_v he_o confirm_v that_o way_n to_o dip_v therefore_o be_v exceed_o material_a to_o the_o ordinance_n which_o be_v the_o usage_n of_o old_a without_o exception_n of_o country_n hot_a or_o cold_a §_o 50._o a_o very_a smart_n and_o press_a testimony_n this_o if_o all_o be_v as_o mr._n d._n report_v it_o but_o here_o to_o see_v the_o luck_n of_o it_o good_a or_o bad_a let_v mr._n d._n look_v to_o that_o he_o have_v not_o give_v we_o mr._n rogers_n word_n in_o full_a nor_o in_o the_o order_n he_o speak_v they_o but_o have_v pick_v out_o here_o and_o there_o what_o he_o think_v good_a leave_v the_o rest_n a_o way_n of_o proceed_v this_o by_o which_o a_o man_n may_v be_v make_v to_o say_v what_o one_o will_n but_o i_o will_v not_o go_v about_o to_o charge_v he_o with_o wrong_v mr._n rogers_n in_o the_o whole_a of_o his_o sense_n who_o speak_v much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n though_o not_o exact_o in_o those_o word_n and_o yet_o i_o can_v find_v in_o mr._n roger_n the_o very_a first_o and_o those_o very_a 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testimony_n reach_v but_o a_o dip_v of_o the_o body_n or_o some_o part_n of_o it_o into_o the_o water_n §_o 51._o and_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o expression_n that_o fall_v casual_o from_o he_o but_o be_v his_o very_a judgement_n appear_v by_o what_o he_o say_v before_o that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v the_o church_n part_n to_o cleave_v to_o the_o institution_n especial_o it_o be_v not_o leave_v arbitrary_a by_o our_o church_n to_o the_o discretion_n of_o the_o minister_n but_o require_v as_o it_o then_o be_v to_o dip_v or_o dive_v the_o infant_n more_o or_o less_o except_o in_o case_n of_o weakness_n a_o dip_v total_a or_o partial_a the_o man_n will_v have_v but_o so_o there_o be_v but_o either_o the_o institution_n be_v cleaved_a to_o and_o the_o church_n order_n observe_v so_o far_o as_o i_o can_v perceive_v in_o his_o judgement_n §_o 52._o and_o that_o as_o warm_a as_o mr._n rogers_n be_v for_o retrive_v the_o use_n of_o dip_v as_o witness_v to_o by_o antiquity_n approve_v by_o scripture_n require_v by_o the_o church_n as_o then_o it_o be_v with_o not_o so_o much_o appearance_n of_o liberty_n in_o the_o case_n grant_v to_o the_o minister_n as_o now_o be_v and_o symbolical_a with_o the_o thing_n signify_v in_o baptism_n which_o i_o can_v wish_v as_o well_o as_o and_o as_o hearty_o as_o he_o in_o order_n to_o the_o make_n of_o peace_n in_o the_o church_n if_o that_o will_v do_v it_o i_o say_v that_o he_o be_v only_o so_o for_o dip_v as_o yet_o not_o to_o hold_v any_o unlawfulness_n to_o be_v in_o sprinkle_v there_o be_v sufficient_a evidence_n because_o he_o think_v that_o for_o the_o allowance_n of_o that_o in_o case_n of_o weakness_n we_o have_v cause_n to_o be_v thankful_a and_o i_o presume_v his_o zeal_n be_v only_o against_o those_o that_o stretch_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o case_n deep_o and_o further_o than_o either_o the_o church_n herself_o can_v or_o the_o solemnness_n of_o this_o sacrament_n may_v well_o and_o safe_o admit_v as_o himself_z speaks_z and_o as_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o section_n he_o say_v i_o will_v not_o be_v understand_v as_o if_o schismatical_o i_o will_v instill_v a_o distaste_n of_o the_o church_n into_o any_o weak_a mind_n by_o the_o act_n of_o sprinkle_v water_n only_o so_o in_o the_o end_n of_o it_o he_o say_v again_o i_o do_v not_o speak_v this_o as_o a_o thing_n meet_v to_o disturb_v a_o church_n peace_n but_o as_o desire_v such_o as_o it_o concern_v in_o their_o place_n to_o look_v to_o their_o liberty_n and_o duty_n in_o this_o behalf_n §_o 53._o and_o i_o shall_v conclude_v with_o a_o wish_n that_o the_o quoter_n of_o he_o will_v have_v but_o the_o same_o thought_n of_o it_o as_o his_o author_n have_v and_o there_o will_v soon_o be_v a_o agreement_n with_o he_o and_o the_o church_n which_o require_v dip_v but_o allow_v sprinkle_v on_o just_a reason_n for_o it_o and_o if_o he_o have_v any_o child_n to_o be_v baptize_v he_o may_v have_v they_o dip_v and_o total_o too_o in_o 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true_a or_o no._n he_o name_v afterward_o when_o he_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o be_v find_v l._n 3._o c._n 4._o p._n 644_o 645._o why_o not_o here_o i_o have_v show_v my_o suspicion_n and_o my_o reason_n to_o suspect_v and_o i_o be_o strengthen_v therein_o by_o this_o that_o as_o i_o shall_v show_v afterward_o he_o quote_v a_o say_n of_o musculus_fw-la on_o matth._n 3._o at_o large_a without_o name_v verse_n of_o the_o chapter_n or_o page_n of_o the_o book_n and_o as_o upon_o diligent_a search_n i_o have_v find_v there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n say_v by_o
and_o from_o his_o pan._n cathol_n tom._n 4._o l._n 5._o c._n 2._o ser._n 6._o mr._n d._n quote_v this_o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o baptism_n be_v to_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n into_o the_o element_n which_o be_v the_o force_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o do_v john_n baptise_v in_o a_o river_n which_o be_v nevertheless_o change_v into_o aspersion_n though_o uncertain_a when_o and_o from_o whence_o that_o custom_n be_v take_v §_o 62._o to_o this_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o if_o chamier_n do_v say_v that_o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o baptism_n be_v to_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n into_o the_o element_n than_o his_o meaning_n only_o be_v that_o it_o be_v ancient_o the_o more_o general_a or_o more_o constant_a or_o public_a and_o solemn_a but_o not_o the_o only_a manner_n so_o to_o baptize_v but_o this_o hurt_v not_o our_o cause_n who_o do_v not_o contend_v that_o sprinkle_v be_v the_o only_a or_o the_o more_o general_a or_o the_o more_o public_a and_o solemn_a way_n of_o baptise_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n but_o only_o that_o it_o be_v sometime_o and_o most_o in_o private_a and_o in_o case_n of_o great_a necessity_n charity_n or_o conveniency_n make_v use_v of_o in_o it_o and_o as_o this_o have_v be_v i_o hope_v sufficient_o manifest_v in_o these_o paper_n so_o the_o word_n of_o chamier_n even_o as_o mr._n d._n report_v they_o do_v not_o contradict_v it_o they_o only_o affirm_v what_o ancient_o be_v in_o use_n but_o not_o deny_v any_o thing_n else_o to_o have_v be_v then_o do_v suppose_v it_o shall_v be_v say_v that_o the_o modern_a use_n of_o baptism_n in_o this_o kingdom_n for_o this_o last_o century_n have_v be_v to_o sprinkle_v water_n on_o the_o face_n of_o the_o baptize_v will_v this_o conclude_v that_o none_o in_o this_o kingdom_n have_v be_v otherwise_o baptize_v in_o this_o last_o century_n than_o by_o such_o sprinkle_v i_o suppose_v not_o nor_o do_v i_o believe_v the_o thing_n true_a if_o it_o shall_v be_v assert_v no_o more_o do_v the_o affirm_v of_o the_o ancient_a use_n to_o have_v be_v dip_v conclude_v that_o there_o be_v none_o then_o any_o other_o way_n baptize_v than_o by_o dip_v as_o some_o therefore_o in_o the_o late_a time_n of_o the_o prevalency_n of_o sprinkle_v have_v be_v dip_v so_o no_o doubt_n some_o in_o the_o ancient_a time_n of_o the_o prevalency_n of_o dip_v be_v sprinkle_v §_o 63._o but_o second_o chamier_n do_v not_o say_v so_o 4._o in_o usu_fw-la verò_fw-la elementi_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la immersio_fw-la totius_fw-la corporis_fw-la adhibita_fw-la fuit_fw-la chamier_n contract_n l._n 5._o c._n 1._o p._n 1404._o parag_n 4._o if_o spanhemius_fw-la his_o contracter_n report_v he_o true_o his_o word_n be_v that_o in_o the_o use_n of_o the_o element_n at_o the_o beginning_n immersion_n of_o the_o whole_a body_n be_v practise_v these_o word_n do_v only_o imply_v that_o at_o the_o first_o beginning_n to_o baptize_v dip_v of_o the_o whole_a body_n be_v in_o use_n which_o we_o grant_v but_o they_o do_v not_o imply_v that_o no_o other_o way_n of_o baptise_v beside_o dip_v be_v then_o also_o use_v though_o that_o then_o be_v yet_o there_o may_v be_v other_o way_n also_o beside_o that_o for_o aught_o here_o say_v by_o chamier_n and_o admit_v that_o to_o have_v be_v the_o only_a way_n of_o baptise_v at_o the_o very_a beginning_n of_o the_o use_n of_o that_o sacrament_n suppose_v in_o our_o saviour_n life_n or_o just_o immediate_o after_o his_o death_n yet_o if_o other_o way_n of_o baptise_v come_v into_o use_n present_o or_o a_o little_a after_o suppose_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n then_o will_v those_o way_n of_o baptise_v be_v good_a enough_o though_o dip_v have_v a_o little_a the_o start_n of_o they_o and_o be_v in_o priority_n of_o time_n somewhat_o before_o they_o but_o this_o chamier_n do_v not_o contradict_v only_o tell_v we_o what_o be_v at_o the_o beginning_n but_o not_o deny_v what_o may_v present_o after_o follow_v §_o 64._o as_o for_o his_o say_n that_o the_o force_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n into_o the_o element_n ib._n quae_fw-la vis_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chamier_n ib._n i_o answer_v if_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o the_o verb_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v that_o force_n we_o free_o grant_v it_o but_o that_o hurt_v not_o we_o but_o if_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v no_o other_o force_n but_o that_o and_o that_o it_o be_v never_o use_v in_o any_o either_o profane_a or_o sacred_a writer_n but_o in_o this_o only_a signification_n than_o we_o as_o free_o deny_v it_o and_o i_o suppose_v the_o contrary_a thereunto_o have_v in_o these_o paper_n be_v already_o make_v sufficient_o manifest_a §_o 65._o as_o for_o what_o mr._n d._n add_v as_o say_v by_o chamier_n viz._n that_o therefore_o john_n do_v baptize_v in_o a_o river_n this_o if_o chamier_n do_v say_v it_o be_v capable_a of_o a_o double_a meaning_n either_o that_o john_n do_v baptize_v in_o a_o river_n because_o that_o be_v the_o force_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o else_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v that_o force_n because_o john_n baptize_v in_o a_o river_n §_o 66._o if_o the_o first_o be_v mean_v it_o be_v say_v without_o proof_n nor_o can_v be_v credible_a unless_o we_o can_v be_v assure_v of_o two_o thing_n 1._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v always_o exact_o so_o and_o never_o otherwise_o 2._o that_o the_o commission_n by_o virtue_n of_o which_o john_n do_v baptize_v be_v give_v in_o greek_a and_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o particular_a word_n in_o that_o commission_n but_o these_o two_o thing_n will_v never_o be_v attempt_v to_o be_v show_v unless_o i_o take_v my_o measure_n much_o amiss_o §_o 67._o if_o the_o second_o be_v mean_v and_o the_o force_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v conclude_v to_o be_v to_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n in_o the_o element_n because_o john_n do_v baptize_v in_o a_o river_n i_o answer_v first_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a to_o think_v that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v take_v its_o signification_n from_o any_o action_n of_o john_n which_o be_v a_o word_n in_o possession_n of_o its_o be_v and_o signification_n long_o before_o john_n either_o baptism_n or_o birth_n second_o the_o vanity_n of_o conclude_v that_o baptism_n ought_v to_o be_v by_o dip_v the_o whole_a body_n because_o john_n baptize_v in_o a_o river_n if_o that_o be_v it_o that_o be_v mean_v and_o be_v design_v by_o the_o author_n or_o reporter_n as_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o believe_v it_o be_v and_o only_o by_o the_o late_a the_o vanity_n i_o say_v and_o unconcludingness_n if_o i_o may_v so_o speak_v of_o that_o argument_n have_v already_o so_o oft_o be_v detect_v in_o these_o paper_n that_o i_o shall_v not_o vex_v the_o reader_n with_o a_o tedious_a repetition_n thereof_o in_o short_a therefore_o it_o signify_v nothing_o unless_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o a_o man_n to_o go_v into_o a_o river_n and_o be_v baptize_v therein_o by_o sprinkle_v or_o pour_v water_n on_o he_o or_o dip_v some_o part_n of_o he_o as_o namely_o his_o face_n or_o head_n into_o it_o without_o his_o whole_a body_n be_v immerse_v into_o it_o also_o which_o no_o man_n of_o reason_n or_o even_o of_o common_a sense_n will_v adventure_v to_o say_v §_o 68_o but_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o think_v that_o chamier_n do_v not_o say_v any_o such_o thing_n partly_o because_o it_o be_v too_o inconsequent_a and_o ridiculous_a to_o be_v affix_v on_o a_o man_n so_o judicious_a and_o learned_a and_o partly_o because_o there_o be_v no_o such_o word_n report_v from_o he_o by_o his_o contracter_n spanhemius_fw-la and_o then_o it_o must_v remain_v that_o it_o be_v a_o addition_n make_v to_o chamier_n by_o mr._n danvers_n §_o 69._o as_o for_o those_o word_n report_v by_o mr._n d._n as_o chamiers_n which_o be_v nevertheless_o change_v into_o aspersion_n though_o uncertain_a when_o and_o from_o whence_o that_o custom_n be_v take_v they_o be_v not_o exact_o the_o word_n of_o chamier_n but_o these_o as_o his_o contracter_n report_v they_o postea_fw-la mutata_fw-la fuit_fw-la in_o aspersionem_fw-la incertum_fw-la quando_fw-la aut_fw-la quo_fw-la initio_fw-la it_o be_v afterward_o change_v into_o aspersion_n though_o it_o be_v uncertain_a when_o or_o at_o what_o beginning_n it_o be_v and_o it_o be_v be_v different_a word_n and_o speak_v of_o differ_v time_n the_o first_o of_o the_o present_a the_o second_o of_o the_o past_a the_o first_o make_v the_o alteration_n seem_v to_o be_v modern_a the_o second_o entitle_v it_o to_o antiquity_n and_o we_o must_v not_o be_v wrench_v from_o any_o thing_n of_o our_o right_n
compel_v and_o god_n permit_v §_o 58._o and_o this_o he_o go_v on_o be_v the_o sense_n and_o law_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n not_o that_o it_o be_v indifferent_a but_o that_o all_o infant_n be_v dip_v except_o in_o the_o case_n of_o sickness_n and_o then_o sprinkle_v be_v permit_v and_o so_o it_o be_v in_o those_o time_n when_o the_o doctor_n first_o write_v this_o but_o the_o sense_n and_o law_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v since_o that_o grow_v still_o a_o little_a more_o favourable_a for_o in_o the_o office_n of_o public_a baptism_n of_o infant_n the_o dip_v of_o the_o infant_n be_v appoint_v with_o a_o if_o if_o they_o shall_v certify_v that_o the_o child_n may_v well_o endure_v it_o so_o then_o no_o such_o certification_n be_v make_v the_o minister_n be_v not_o appoint_v to_o dip_v it_o nor_o be_v he_o require_v to_o ask_v whether_o the_o child_n may_v well_o endure_v it_o or_o no_o and_o see_v they_o offer_v the_o child_n to_o baptism_n in_o such_o a_o condition_n as_o it_o be_v unfit_a to_o dip_v it_o in_o he_o may_v in_o reason_n presume_v without_o their_o certify_v either_o way_n that_o it_o may_v not_o endure_v it_o their_o very_a offering_n it_o in_o that_o condition_n be_v a_o interpretative_a certification_n of_o its_o inability_n to_o suffer_v baptization_n by_o a_o total_a immersion_n and_o be_v that_o in_o the_o office_n of_o baptism_n of_o person_n of_o ripe_a year_n dip_v in_o the_o water_n or_o pour_v water_n on_o be_v indifferent_o prescribe_v and_o clear_o leave_v to_o the_o minister_n liberty_n without_o if_n or_o and_n where_o yet_o the_o person_n be_v of_o age_n and_o strength_n enough_o to_o endure_v it_o he_o may_v rational_o presume_v he_o be_v at_o the_o same_o liberty_n with_o infant_n of_o who_o strength_n in_o regard_n of_o their_o age_n there_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o such_o presumption_n §_o 59_o after_o this_o the_o doctor_n go_v on_o to_o confirm_v the_o use_n of_o sprinkle_v from_o instance_n of_o some_o though_o little_a use_n of_o it_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n which_o he_o show_v from_o tertullian_n the_o act_n of_o st._n laurence_n in_o surius_n and_o walafrid_n strabo_n and_o for_o further_a confirmation_n add_v the_o opinion_n of_o aquinas_n that_o the_o three_o thousand_o and_o five_o thousand_o convert_v in_o the_o act_n be_v so_o baptize_v all_o which_o mr._n danvers_n be_v please_v to_o over-pass_a §_o 60._o but_o then_o have_v weaken_v this_o last_o proof_n from_o aquinas_n by_o call_v it_o but_o a_o conjecture_n and_o say_v it_o have_v no_o tradition_n nor_o record_v to_o warrant_v it_o he_o draw_v towards_o the_o conclusion_n of_o that_o which_o all_o this_o discourse_n about_o dip_v and_o sprinkle_v be_v bring_v to_o prove_v viz._n that_o a_o custom_n in_o the_o administration_n of_o a_o sacrament_n introduce_v against_o the_o analogy_n and_o mystery_n the_o purpose_n and_o signification_n of_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v comply_v with_o say_v and_o therefore_o although_o in_o case_n of_o need_n and_o charity_n the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o want_v some_o good_a example_n in_o the_o best_a time_n to_o countenance_v that_o permission_n yet_o we_o be_v to_o follow_v her_o command_n because_o that_o command_n be_v not_o only_o according_a to_o the_o meaning_n and_o intent_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o commandment_n but_o agree_v with_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n itself_o for_o we_o be_v bury_v with_o he_o in_o baptism_n say_v the_o apostle_n add_v thereto_o this_o testimony_n from_o st._n chrysostom_n which_o mr._n d._n transcribe_v from_o he_o in_o aquâ_fw-la tanquam_fw-la in_o sepulchro_fw-la caput_fw-la immergentibus_fw-la vetus_fw-la homo_fw-la sepelitur_fw-la &_o immergitur_fw-la deinde_fw-la nobis_fw-la emergentibus_fw-la novus_fw-la resurgit_fw-la inde_fw-la the_o old_a man_n be_v bury_v and_o drown_v in_o the_o immersion_n under_o water_n and_o when_o the_o baptize_v person_n be_v lift_v up_o from_o the_o water_n it_o represent_v the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o new_a man_n to_o newness_n of_o life_n §_o 61._o in_o which_o part_n of_o the_o discourse_n i_o can_v but_o note_v three_o thing_n which_o mr._n d._n be_v not_o please_v to_o advert_v unto_o first_o a_o acknowledgement_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v not_o want_v some_o good_a example_n in_o the_o best_a time_n to_o countenance_v her_o permission_n of_o sprinkle_v good_a example_n and_o in_o the_o best_a time_n be_v very_o material_a word_n for_o we_o and_o give_v we_o a_o antiquity_n as_o old_a and_o as_o good_a as_o we_o can_v desire_v and_o utter_o overthrow_v all_o that_o ever_o can_v be_v say_v against_o we_o especial_o on_o the_o account_n of_o antiquity_n second_o that_o the_o analogy_n betwixt_o immersion_n and_o emersion_n and_o the_o death_n or_o burial_n of_o the_o old_a man_n and_o resurrection_n of_o the_o new_a man_n be_v make_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o by_o the_o manner_n of_o speech_n so_o make_v the_o mystery_n as_o if_o it_o be_v the_o only_a mystery_n of_o it_o our_o wash_n from_o sin_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v the_o prime_a signification_n and_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v pass_v by_o on_o no_o account_n that_o i_o know_v of_o unless_o because_o if_o that_o be_v either_o the_o whole_a or_o any_o part_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o will_v hold_v analogy_n with_o sprinkle_v and_o so_o weaken_v the_o inference_n for_o dip_v three_o that_o whereas_o the_o immersion_n st._n chrysostom_n speak_v of_o be_v as_o far_o as_o his_o word_n will_v bear_v but_o a_o immersion_n or_o dip_v of_o the_o head_n caput_fw-la immergentibus_fw-la be_v his_o word_n both_o the_o doctor_n and_o mr._n d._n slip_v that_o by_o without_o the_o least_o notice_n of_o it_o and_o hide_v it_o under_o a_o general_a ambiguous_a term_n of_o immersion_n under_o the_o water_n which_o be_v apt_a to_o carry_v away_o the_o 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which_o have_v speak_v before_o i_o shall_v say_v nothing_o but_o that_o if_o in_o that_o century_n it_o be_v admit_v it_o have_v a_o fair_a antiquity_n to_o plead_v for_o itself_o but_o what_o probability_n there_o be_v of_o its_o have_v be_v practise_v before_o i_o have_v already_o show_v and_o therefore_o will_v not_o here_o repeat_v but_o pass_v on_o to_o his_o next_o author_n §_o 75._o aquinas_n scotus_n and_o other_o of_o the_o schoolman_n conclude_v as_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o dip_v be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o institution_n but_o admit_v that_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n viz._n when_o either_o many_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v scarcity_n of_o water_n or_o sickness_n or_o weakness_n they_o may_v sprinkle_n voss_n p._n 38._o §_o 76._o suppose_v they_o do_v conclude_v dip_v to_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o institution_n yet_o thing_n be_v well_o enough_o with_o we_o since_o they_o do_v not_o conclude_v it_o only_o to_o be_v agreeable_a to_o it_o and_o if_o they_o 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verùm_fw-la etiam_fw-la per_fw-la aspersionem_fw-la vel_fw-la effusionem_fw-la aquae_fw-la baptismus_fw-la dari_fw-la potest_fw-la tutius_fw-la tamen_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la hoc_fw-la habet_fw-la communior_fw-la usus_fw-la per_fw-la modum_fw-la immersionis_fw-la baptizare_fw-la aquin_n 3._o q._n 66._o art_n 7._o conclus_fw-la by_o vossius_fw-la 3._o q._n 66._o art_n 7._o conc_fw-fr there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n to_o which_o dip_v be_v either_o most_o agreeable_a as_o mr._n d._n say_v or_o more_o agreeable_a than_o sprinkle_v but_o of_o the_o common_a use_n of_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o which_o he_o say_v it_o be_v the_o safe_a to_o baptize_v by_o way_n of_o immersion_n a_o great_a deal_n of_o difference_n betwixt_o more_o safe_a in_o respect_n of_o common_a use_n and_o most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o institution_n so_o that_o neither_o these_o schoolman_n nor_o the_o quoter_n of_o they_o afford_v mr._n d._n any_o the_o least_o patronage_n to_o his_o cause_n which_o may_v just_o be_v suspect_v so_o much_o the_o worse_o in_o regard_n such_o shift_n be_v use_v for_o the_o maintain_n of_o it_o §_o 80._o four_o i_o will_v fair_o relate_v what_o these_o schoolman_n say_v and_o then_o leave_v the_o reader_n to_o make_v his_o judgement_n on_o the_o case_n the_o word_n of_o dominicus_n sotus_n as_o vossius_fw-la quote_v they_o from_o do_v 3._o qu._n un_fw-mi art_n 7._o be_v these_o in_o baptismo_fw-la aliquid_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la essentiâ_fw-la ut_fw-la ablutio_fw-la juxta_fw-la illud_fw-la ad_fw-la eph._n 5._o ubi_fw-la apostolus_fw-la baptismum_fw-la appellat_fw-la lavacrum_fw-la aquae_fw-la aliud_fw-la verò_fw-la accidentarium_fw-la nempe_fw-la ut_fw-la ablutio_fw-la hoc_fw-la vel_fw-la illo_fw-la modo_fw-la fiat_fw-la in_o baptism_n something_o be_v essential_a as_o wash_v according_a to_o that_o eph._n 5._o where_o the_o apostle_n call_v baptism_n the_o wash_n of_o water_n and_o something_o be_v accidental_a as_o that_o the_o wash_n be_v make_v this_o or_o that_o way_n now_o if_o so_o then_o dip_v be_v not_o of_o the_o essence_n of_o baptism_n and_o so_o not_o necessary_o to_o be_v always_o use_v in_o baptise_v but_o herein_o say_v vossius_fw-la he_o follow_v thomas_n aquinas_n who_o also_o himself_o say_v that_o dip_v be_v true_o the_o more_o congruous_a viz._n to_o the_o common_a use_n as_o i_o say_v before_o and_o therefore_o think_v it_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v do_v otherwise_o unless_o for_o a_o reason_n that_o be_v either_o necessary_a or_o honest_a or_o at_o least_o agreeable_a unto_o reason_n yet_o notwithstanding_o inasmuch_o as_o water_n be_v take_v in_o the_o sacrament_n to_o signify_v the_o wash_n of_o the_o soul_n by_o the_o wash_n of_o the_o body_n and_o that_o wash_n may_v be_v make_v not_o only_o by_o immersion_n but_o also_o by_o effusion_n and_o aspersion_n he_o think_v true_o that_o baptism_n may_v be_v administer_v after_o every_o one_o of_o these_o way_n and_o he_o 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