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col_fw-fr 727._o junius_n animad_fw-la in_o bellâ—r_n cont_n 5._o l_o 1._o c_o 2_o danaeus_n de_fw-fr polit._n christ._n l._n 6_o p_o 452._o alsted_n theol._n case_z pag._n 518.520_o sopingâ—us_fw-la ad_fw-la bonam_fw-la fidem_fw-la sibrandi_fw-la pag._n 253._o etc._n etc._n the_o professor_n of_o leyden_n synt._n pur_fw-mi theol._n disp._n 42._o and_o sundry_a other_o who_o testimony_n i_o omit_v for_o brevity_n cause_n it_o be_v enough_o to_o note_v the_o place_n the_o author_n of_o the_o assertion_n for_o true_a and_o christian_a church_n policy_n pag._n 196.197_o cit_v for_o rule_v elder_n the_o testimony_n the_o commissioner_n of_o king_n edward_n the_o six_o authorize_v to_o compile_v a_o book_n for_o the_o reformation_n of_o law_n ecclesiastical_a among_o who_o be_v the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o ely_n they_o say_v let_v the_o minister_n go_v apart_o with_o some_o of_o the_o elder_n take_v counsel_n etc._n etc._n voetâ—us_o cit_v to_o the_o same_o 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be_v no_o lessâ—_n thâ—n_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o jew_n câ—mero_n tell_v we_o 118._o that_o when_o the_o apostle_n 1_o coâ—_n 6._o reprove_v the_o corinthian_n for_o that_o when_o one_o of_o 〈◊〉_d have_v â—_o matter_n against_o another_o they_o 〈…〉_z the_o saint_n to_o be_v â—udges_n 〈…〉_z noâ—_n by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈…〉_z multitude_n sedeos_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la constituti_fw-la craft_n 68_o ut_fw-la vacarent_fw-la gubernationi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la that_o be_v â—hose_v who_o be_v ordain_v in_o the_o church_n to_o give_v themselves_o to_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n my_o lord_n craigtanne_v find_v the_o strength_n of_o that_o argument_n that_o if_o beside_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n other_o grave_n and_o wise_a christian_n may_v be_v present_a in_o the_o great_a assembly_n and_o counsel_n of_o the_o church_n why_o not_o in_o presbytery_n also_o answer_v that_o indeed_o it_o be_v not_o amiss_o that_o the_o wise_a sorâ—_n among_o the_o people_n be_v join_v as_o helper_n and_o assistant_n to_o the_o pastor_n provide_v that_o this_o their_o auxiliary_a function_n be_v not_o obtrude_v as_o necessary_a this_o be_v somewhat_o for_o we_o but_o we_o say_v further_o if_o it_o be_v necessary_a in_o oecumenicke_n counsel_n for_o no_o less_o do_v the_o argument_n of_o our_o divine_n in_o that_o question_n with_o the_o papist_n conclude_v then_o be_v it_o necessary_a in_o presbytery_n also_o chap._n xi_o doctor_n field_n five_o argument_n against_o roll_a 〈…〉_z his_o fiâ—st_a reason_n that_o show_v 〈◊〉_d to_o think_v there_o be_v 〈◊〉_d any_o 〈…〉_z church_n be_v because_o bishop_n presbyter_n that_o preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n and_o deacon_n howsoever_o they_o much_o degenerate_v in_o late_a time_n yet_o all_o still_o remain_v in_o all_o christian_a church_n throughout_o the_o world_n both_o greek_a and_o latin_a in_o their_o name_n and_o office_n also_o in_o some_o sort_n but_o of_o these_o roll_a elder_n there_o be_v no_o footstep_n to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o christian_a church_n in_o the_o world_n nor_o be_v not_o for_o many_o hundred_o year_n whereas_o there_o will_v have_v be_v some_o remain_v of_o these_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o have_v they_o ever_o have_v any_o institution_n from_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n as_o the_o other_o have_v to_o this_o we_o answer_v 1._o if_o the_o christian_a church_n throughout_o the_o world_n have_v want_v rule_v elder_n long_o than_o they_o do_v yet_o prescription_n can_v be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n 2._o after_o that_o the_o golden_a age_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v spend_v and_o go_v exact_a diligence_n be_v not_o take_v to_o have_v the_o church_n provide_v with_o well_o qualify_a minister_n but_o many_o unfit_a man_n yea_o sundry_a heretic_n enter_v into_o that_o sacred_a vocation_n whereby_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o corruption_n and_o error_n overflow_v the_o church_n 103._o as_o both_o eusebius_n prove_v from_o aegesippus_n and_o catalogus_fw-la testium_fw-la veritatis_fw-la from_o irenaus_n may_v not_o this_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o change_v the_o office-bearer_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n 3._o in_o the_o roman_a yea_o in_o prelatical_a church_n there_o be_v scarce_o any_o footstep_n at_o all_o of_o the_o office_n of_o preach_v presbyter_n and_o deacon_n as_o they_o be_v institute_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o apostle_n ordain_v presbyter_n to_o preach_v the_o word_n to_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n to_o govern_v the_o church_n and_o to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o key_n but_o the_o popish_a and_o prelatical_a presbyter_n have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n nor_o the_o power_n of_o church_n government_n for_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o their_o prelate_n as_o for_o the_o other_o two_o they_o be_v common_a to_o their_o deacon_n for_o they_o also_o do_v preach_v and_o baptise_v the_o office_n of_o the_o popish_a priest_n stand_v in_o two_o thing_n to_o consecrate_v and_o offer_v 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any_o thing_n of_o that_o kind_n to_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o a_o occasional_a meeting_n 3_o the_o apostle_n be_v free_o present_a in_o any_o presbytery_n where_o they_o be_v for_o the_o time_n because_o the_o oversight_n and_o care_n of_o all_o the_o church_n be_v lay_v upon_o they_o pastor_n and_o elder_n be_v necessary_o present_a therein_o and_o do_v by_o virtue_n of_o their_o particular_a vocation_n meet_v together_o presbyterial_o whether_o a_o apostle_n be_v with_o they_o or_o not_o no_o other_o sense_n can_v the_o text_n suffer_v but_o that_o by_o presbytery_n we_o shall_v understand_v consessus_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la a_o meeting_n of_o elder_n and_o so_o do_v camero_n and_o forbesse_n themselves_o expound_v it_o sutlivius_n object_v to_o the_o contrary_a that_o the_o apostle_n paul_n do_v lay_v on_o hand_n upon_o timothy_n which_o he_o prove_v both_o from_o 2._o tim._n 1._o and_o because_o extraordinary_a gift_n be_v give_v by_o that_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n ans._n there_o be_v a_o express_a difference_n make_v betwixt_o paul_n lay_v on_o of_o his_o hand_n and_o the_o presbytery_n lay_v on_o of_o their_o hand_n of_o the_o former_a it_o be_v say_v that_o timothy_n receive_v the_o gift_n which_o be_v in_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o paul_n hand_n but_o he_o receive_v the_o gift_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n as_o didoclavius_n note_v but_o say_v sutlivius_n timothy_n be_v a_o evangelist_n as_o you_o hold_v how_o can_v he_o be_v ordain_v by_o the_o presbytery_n ans._n 1._o though_o the_o presbytery_n do_v neither_o give_v he_o ordination_n to_o be_v a_o evangelist_n nor_o yet_o confer_v by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o their_o hand_n extraordinary_a gift_n upon_o he_o yet_o do_v they_o lie_v on_o their_o hand_n as_o set_v to_o the_o the_o seal_n and_o testimony_n and_o commend_v he_o to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n even_o as_o certain_a prophet_n and_o teacher_n lay_v hand_n on_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o ananias_n also_o before_o that_o time_n have_v lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o paul_n 2._o the_o presbytery_n may_v ordain_v timothy_n to_o be_v a_o elder_a if_o so_o be_v he_o be_v ordain_v a_o elder_a before_o he_o be_v ordain_v a_o evangelist_n 3._o if_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o presbytery_n by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o their_o hand_n together_o with_o the_o apostle_n hand_n in_o the_o extraordinary_a mission_n of_o timothy_n be_v require_v much_o more_o may_v it_o be_v put_v out_o of_o question_n that_o the_o apostle_n commit_v to_o the_o presbytery_n the_o full_a power_n of_o ordain_v ordinary_a minister_n but_o it_o be_v further_o object_v by_o sutlivius_n that_o this_o can_v not_o be_v such_o a_o presbytery_n as_o be_v among_o we_o because_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n pertain_v to_o none_o but_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n 8.10_o ans._n 1._o the_o child_n of_o israel_n lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o the_o levite_n &_o we_o will_v know_v his_o reason_n why_o he_o deny_v the_o like_a power_n to_o rule_v elder_n now_o especial_o since_o this_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v but_o a_o gesture_n of_o one_o pray_v and_o a_o moral_a sign_n declare_v the_o person_n pray_v for_o 2._o howsoever_o our_o practice_n whâ—ch_n be_v also_o approve_a by_o good_a divine_n be_v 37._o to_o put_v a_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o act_n of_o ordination_n and_o the_o external_a right_n thereof_o which_o be_v imposition_n of_o hand_n ascribe_v the_o former_a to_o the_o whole_a presbytery_n both_o pastor_n and_o elder_n and_o reserve_v the_o latter_a to_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n yet_o to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o name_n of_o all_o thus_o have_v we_o evince_v the_o apostle_n meaning_n when_o he_o speak_v of_o a_o presbytery_n and_o this_o consistory_n we_o find_v to_o have_v continue_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o the_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n have_v no_o power_n to_o judge_v any_o cause_n without_o the_o presence_n advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o their_o presbyter_n conc._n carth._n 4._o can_n 23._o field_n forbesse_n saravia_n and_o douname_n do_v all_o acknowledge_v that_o it_o be_v so_o and_o so_o do_v bellarmine_n de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n l._n 1._o c._n 8._o of_o this_o presbytery_n speak_v cyprian_a omni_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyterium_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o the_o presbytery_n speak_v the_o same_o cyprian_a lib._n 2._o ep._n 8._o &_o lib._n 4._o ep._n 5._o ignatius_n ad_fw-la trall_n and_o hierom_n in_o esa._n 3_o we_o find_v it_o also_o in_o conc_fw-fr ancyr_n can_v 18_o and_o in_o conc_fw-fr carthag_n 4._o can_n 35.40_o 254.255_o doctor_n forbesse_n allege_v that_o the_o word_n presbytery_n for_o fifteen_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n do_v signify_v no_o other_o thing_n in_o the_o church_n than_o a_o diocesan_n synod_n but_o herein_o if_o he_o have_v understand_v 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