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A74671 The bar, against free admission to the Lords Supper, fixed. Or, An answer to Mr. Humphrey his Rejoynder, or, reply. By Roger Drake minister of Peters Cheap, London. R. D. (Roger Drake), 1608-1669. 1656 (1656) Wing D2128; Thomason E1593_1; ESTC R208860 271,720 506

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up_o of_o tare_n be_v a_o scripture-ordinance_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 5_o 7._o the_o term_n be_v seem_o but_o not_o real_o contradictory_n the_o tare_n must_v not_o be_v pluck_v up_o and_o the_o tare_n must_v be_v pluck_v up_o as_o other_o of_o the_o like_a nature_n god_n see_v no_o sin_n in_o his_o child_n and_o god_n see_v sin_n in_o his_o child_n the_o church_n be_v without_o spot_n and_o the_o church_n be_v spot_v etc._n etc._n all_o which_o be_v only_a seem_o contradictory_n because_o not_o understand_v under_o the_o same_o respect_n for_o the_o difficulty_n about_o pluck_v up_o or_o not_o pluck_v up_o the_o tare_n we_o can_v have_v a_o better_a reconciler_n than_o christ_n himself_o matth._n 13._o 29._o where_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o prohibition_n be_v the_o rule_n and_o bind_v of_o the_o prohibition_n from_o thence_o i_o gather_v 1._o that_o the_o prohibition_n be_v not_o absolute_a but_o with_o a_o caution_n lest_o you_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n also_o how_o ever_o mr._n humphrey_n page_z 89._o be_v please_v to_o judge_v of_o it_o and_o in_o the_o close_a to_o favour_v i_o with_o a_o jest_n 2_o lie_n that_o man_n visible_o wicked_a must_v be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n rather_o than_o person_n visible_o godly_a shall_v be_v prejudice_v by_o rash_a and_o preposterous_a rigour_n against_o wicked_a church-member_n as_o it_o fall_v out_o by_o the_o anabaptist_n see_v calvin_n and_o pareus_n upon_o the_o place_n other_o think_v the_o tare_n in_o palestine_n be_v like_o the_o wheat_n whence_o there_o may_v be_v danger_n of_o eradicate_v the_o wheat_n with_o they_o but_o its_o evident_a the_o servant_n know_v the_o tare_n and_o be_v offend_v with_o they_o whether_o by_o servant_n you_o understand_v church-officer_n or_o other_o discern_a church-member_n whence_o it_o seem_v to_o follow_v that_o either_o some_o may_v be_v know_v to_o be_v tare_n who_o can_v juridical_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v so_o and_o such_o be_v the_o case_n of_o judas_n or_o though_o they_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v such_o yet_o circumstance_n may_v so_o fall_v out_o that_o just_a severity_n against_o they_o by_o way_n of_o excommunication_n may_v be_v noxious_a to_o the_o godly_a in_o which_o case_n such_o tare_n must_v be_v patient_o tolerate_v till_o either_o god_n open_v a_o door_n for_o the_o church_n to_o cast_v they_o out_o or_o deal_v with_o they_o himself_o by_o particular_a or_o general_a judgement_n 3_o lie_n that_o church-member_n may_v be_v know_v to_o be_v wicked_a and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n without_o danger_n of_o enter_v upon_o god_n throne_n this_o mr._n humphrey_n grant_v here_o and_o the_o parable_n hold_v it_o forth_o matth._n 13._o 26_o 27._o however_o he_o dispute_v against_o it_o elsewhere_o 4_o lie_n that_o where_o wicked_a man_n may_v be_v cut_v off_o without_o prejudice_n to_o the_o godly_a there_o the_o pluck_n up_o of_o those_o tare_n be_v not_o prohibit_v by_o the_o parable_n this_o will_v be_v do_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n have_v be_v do_v and_o may_v be_v do_v by_o excommunication_n 5_o lie_n that_o a_o minister_n knowledge_n of_o a_o man_n to_o be_v a_o tare_n be_v not_o enough_o to_o cast_v he_o out_o of_o the_o church_n since_o it_o be_v of_o great_a concernment_n that_o the_o wheat_n as_o well_o as_o the_o servant_n shall_v know_v the_o tare_n that_o the_o congregation_n as_o well_o as_o church-officer_n shall_v be_v satisfy_v a_o person_n be_v a_o tare_n before_o he_o be_v pluck_v up_o which_o order_n be_v observe_v there_o can_v be_v no_o such_o danger_n of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n a_o minister_n may_v suspend_v a_o positive_a act_n in_o not_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o such_o a_o person_n for_o the_o present_a but_o he_o can_v put_v forth_o a_o positive_a act_n to_o cut_v off_o such_o a_o person_n from_o the_o church_n without_o consent_n or_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o church_n at_o least_o representative_a and_o if_o in_o the_o former_a case_n the_o minister_n do_v wrong_a through_o mistake_n or_o passion_n etc._n etc._n himself_o be_v accountable_a to_o the_o church_n for_o that_o particular_a injury_n and_o the_o person_n so_o wrong_v aught_o to_o be_v right_v by_o the_o church_n if_o mr._n humphrey_n can_v reconcile_v the_o parable_n better_o with_o excommunication_n we_o shall_v have_v cause_n to_o thank_v he_o if_o not_o i_o shall_v entreat_v he_o not_o to_o scoff_n at_o what_o he_o can_v mend_v but_o however_o he_o shall_v please_v to_o deal_v with_o i_o let_v he_o remember_v it_o be_v a_o minister_n duty_n to_o satisfy_v not_o to_o increase_v the_o scruple_n of_o tender_a conscience_n especial_o when_o his_o profess_a design_n be_v the_o satisfaction_n of_o tender_a conscience_n when_o two_o scripture_n seem_v to_o clash_v be_v it_o fit_a for_o a_o minister_n to_o leave_v they_o together_o by_o the_o ear_n and_o say_v 43._o matth._n 27._o 43._o let_v christ_n part_v they_o if_o he_o will_v such_o carriage_n be_v fit_a for_o a_o jewish_a priest_n then_o for_o a_o gospel_n minister_n be_v mr._n humphrey_n so_o careful_a to_o reconcile_v christ_n member_n and_o so_o careless_a to_o reconcile_v christ_n truth_n mr._n humphrey_n 89._o pag._n 89._o public_a confession_n will_v hardly_o down_o and_o auricular_a we_o hardly_o approve_v of_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o no_o more_o will_v good_a physic_n down_o with_o too_o many_o yet_o a_o wise_a and_o faithful_a physician_n will_v take_v some_o course_n to_o get_v it_o down_o where_o he_o apprehend_v its_o useful_a for_o his_o patient_n 2_o lie_n public_a confession_n of_o sin_n indeed_o be_v harsh_a because_o by_o it_o one_o take_v public_a shame_n to_o himself_o which_o the_o proud_a heart_n of_o man_n be_v loath_a to_o do_v yet_o in_o some_o case_n it_o must_v be_v submit_v to_o but_o public_a profession_n of_o faith_n be_v honourable_a and_o which_o it_o be_v a_o shame_n for_o a_o christian_n to_o be_v ashamed_a of_o bride_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o profess_v their_o love_n of_o and_o confidence_n in_o their_o bridegroom_n before_o the_o minister_n and_o the_o church_n if_o need_v be_v and_o shall_v christ_n spouse_n be_v ashamed_a to_o declare_v her_o faith_n in_o and_o love_n of_o her_o most_o precious_a lord_n and_o husband_n before_o the_o friend_n of_o the_o bridegroom_n 3_o lie_n this_o profession_n be_v not_o so_o public_a as_o to_o offer_v violence_n to_o the_o modesty_n of_o any_o it_o be_v make_v but_o before_o two_o or_o three_o who_o be_v also_o ready_a to_o prompt_v the_o bride_n when_o her_o modesty_n seal_v up_o her_o lip_n with_o silence_n 4_o lie_n to_o avoid_v the_o imputation_n of_o auricular_a confession_n etc._n etc._n this_o profession_n be_v not_o make_v to_o the_o minister_n alone_o but_o before_o person_n also_o of_o know_a integrity_n who_o we_o hope_v without_o offence_n we_o may_v call_v elder_n and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o such_o it_o be_v the_o error_n and_o fault_n of_o those_o who_o choose_v they_o and_o may_v be_v remedy_v by_o themselves_o mr._n humphrey_n christ_n sometime_o converse_v with_o pharisees_n i_o hope_v to_o do_v good_a upon_o they_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o so_o i_o hope_v christ_n minister_n will_v make_v conscience_n to_o converse_v with_o pharisee_n and_o publican_n to_o do_v they_o good_a and_o bring_v they_o to_o repentance_n 2_o lie_n christ_n admit_v neither_o of_o they_o to_o the_o sacrament_n till_o he_o have_v do_v they_o good_a and_o bring_v they_o to_o repentance_n and_o if_o this_o make_v not_o for_o we_o and_o against_o mr._n humphrey_n i_o pray_v what_o do_v this_o be_v the_o more_o remarkable_a because_o both_o pharisee_n and_o publican_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n divers_a publican_n be_v jew_n as_o be_v evident_a by_o matthew_n zacheus_n etc._n etc._n and_o be_v make_v out_o by_o jerome_n against_o the_o mistake_n of_o tertullian_n see_v goodwin_n moses_n and_o aaron_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o christ_n converse_v with_o both_o to_o do_v they_o good_a but_o admit_v neither_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o after_o profession_n of_o repentance_n as_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o apostle_n matthew_n who_o be_v a_o publican_n matth._n 9_o 9_o and_o 10._o 3._o compare_n matth._n 26._o vers_fw-la 20._o 27._o mr._n humphrey_n 90._o pag._n 90._o mr._n drake_n need_v not_o so_o unjust_o and_o so_o direful_o first_o accuse_v i_o and_o then_o condemn_v i_o for_o what_o he_o forge_v as_o if_o i_o deserve_v to_o be_v more_o then_o suspend_v which_o in_o his_o sense_n make_v i_o tremble_v it_o shall_v enter_v into_o his_o heart_n why_o shall_v i_o be_v thus_o devote_v to_o the_o pit_n of_o hell_n even_o irrecoverable_o these_o censure_n be_v thing_n too_o sharp_a to_o be_v put_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o such_o child_n of_o thou_o it_o may_v be_v the_o lord_n will_v
therefore_o he_o must_v not_o pray_v hold_v not_o water_n and_o that_o first_o because_o prayer_n be_v a_o part_n of_o natural_a worship_n to_o which_o all_o be_v bind_v not_o so_o to_o receive_n a_o part_n of_o institute_v worship_n second_o because_o prayer_n be_v a_o mean_n of_o conversion_n not_o so_o receive_v sacrament_n upon_o this_o account_n even_o heathen_a be_v bind_v to_o pray_v not_o so_o to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n his_o argument_n to_o convince_v my_o assertion_n of_o weakness_n be_v these_o p_o 161._o first_o because_o affirmative_n be_v not_o exclusive_a ans_fw-fr it_o have_v be_v prove_v that_o some_o affirmative_n be_v exclusive_a that_o be_v i_o must_v not_o do_v the_o matter_n unless_o i_o observe_v the_o manner_n thus_o a_o jew_n may_v not_o eat_v the_o passover_n unless_o he_o be_v clean_o a_o christian_a must_v not_o reprove_v unless_o by_o good_a observation_n or_o sufficient_a information_n he_o know_v the_o party_n to_o be_v reprove_v guilty_a mr._n h._n his_o second_o argument_n be_v man_n impotency_n can_v annihilat_n christ_n authority_n ans_fw-fr true_o but_o man_n malice_n or_o wickedness_n may_v render_v he_o uncapable_a of_o some_o privilege_n and_o duty_n faith_n of_o evidence_n be_v a_o duty_n as_o well_o as_o a_o privilege_n but_o of_o this_o duty_n and_o privilege_n a_o natural_a man_n be_v uncapable_a in_o statu_fw-la quo_fw-la dr._n d._n if_o the_o visible_o unfit_a will_v thrust_v in_o it_o be_v the_o church_n duty_n not_o to_o let_v they_o murder_v the_o lord_n of_o glory_n here_o mr._n h._n call_v for_o scripture-proof_n ans_fw-fr that_o proof_n be_v give_v he_o above_o therefore_o i_o forbear_v to_o repeat_v he_o tell_v we_o ib._n that_o the_o former_a assertionis_fw-la a_o occasion_n of_o separation_n ans_fw-fr that_o particular_a congregation_n which_o wilful_o and_o total_o neglect_v her_o duty_n admit_v all_o pell-mell_o give_v just_a occasion_n of_o secession_n in_o point_n of_o sacramental_a communion_n to_o 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which_o as_o a_o relation_n to_o such_o a_o corporation_n suppose_v worthiness_n in_o a_o person_n or_o at_o least_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v in_o he_o but_o be_v neither_o his_o worthiness_n nor_o the_o efficient_a cause_n thereof_o unless_o you_o refer_v it_o to_o the_o impulsive_a cause_n since_o church-membership_a be_v or_o shall_v be_v a_o special_a motive_n and_o spur_n to_o habitual_a and_o active_a worthiness_n and_o be_v a_o aggravation_n of_o the_o want_n of_o either_o indeed_o if_o christ_n do_v bid_v all_o church-member_n receive_v then_o receive_v be_v not_o moral_o impossible_a to_o any_o though_o never_o so_o bad_a but_o this_o be_v the_o question_n beg_v nor_o can_v m._n h._n prove_v that_o indefinite_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v a_o universal_a if_o apply_v to_o church-member_n as_o such_o understand_v i_o here_o right_o christ_n bid_v all_o church-member_n prepare_v and_o so_o receive_v but_o where_o do_v he_o bid_v they_o receive_v be_v they_o never_o so_o unprepared_a it_o be_v not_o then_o bare_a church-membership_a make_v i_o capable_a of_o the_o sacrament_n m._n h._n p._n 163._o a_o man_n may_v be_v evangelical_o unworthy_a yet_o receive_v worthy_o in_o his_o kind_n t●…gh_v not_o worthy_o in_o the_o apostle_n sense_n this_o be_v full_a of_o sweetness_n etc._n etc._n answ_n if_o by_o the_o latter_a worthy_a receive_n he_o mean_v a_o partake_n of_o the_o sacrament_n upon_o due_a examination_n with_o a_o sense_n of_o my_o own_o unworthiness_n hunger_a after_o christ_n and_o mercy_n etc._n etc._n what_o be_v this_o but_o a_o receive_v worthy_o in_o the_o apostle_n sense_n all_o such_o and_o only_o such_o as_o come_v thus_o affect_v in_o truth_n be_v worthy_a receiver_n and_o receive_v worthy_o in_o a_o evangelical_n sense_n though_o haply_o they_o may_v judge_v themselves_o unworthy_a not_o only_o legal_o but_o also_o evangelical_o he_o may_v as_o well_o say_v a_o person_n may_v discourse_v learned_o and_o yet_o not_o be_v learn_v as_o say_v a_o person_n may_v receive_v worthy_o and_o yet_o not_o be_v a_o worthy_a receiver_n if_o m._n h._n have_v any_o other_o sense_n that_o be_v not_o apostolic_a he_o must_v pardon_v we_o if_o we_o do_v not_o receive_v it_o a_o unworthy_a person_n may_v do_v a_o worthy_a act_n but_o he_o can_v act_v worthy_o receive_v be_v very_o comfortable_a to_o weak_a christian_n but_o what_o comfort_n can_v hypocrite_n or_o profane_a person_n expect_v from_o it_o m._n h._n ib._n that_o man_n be_v to_o be_v account_v to_o receive_v worthy_o that_o make_v a_o effectual_a use_n thereof_o according_a to_o his_o own_o condition_n whether_o regenerate_v or_o not_o ans_fw-fr 1._o suppose_v this_o be_v true_a will_v it_o not_o exclude_v most_o church-member_n what_o natural_a man_n of_o a_o hundred_o make_v a_o effectual_a use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n according_a to_o his_o own_o condition_n be_v not_o all_o natural_a man_n apt_a to_o conclude_v from_o their_o very_a receive_n that_o they_o be_v in_o a_o good_a estate_n be_v this_o a_o effectual_a use_n of_o the_o sacrament_n according_a to_o their_o condition_n 2._o suppose_v in_o receive_v he_o be_v convince_v of_o his_o ●…d_a estate_n be_v receive_v back_v with_o such_o conviction_n a_o receive_v worthy_o we_o ask_v a_o proof_n for_o this_o new_a and_o strange_a doctrine_n that_o which_o be_v common_a to_o worthy_a and_o unworthy_a receiver_n can_v be_v a_o receive_v worthy_o of_o this_o nature_n be_v receive_v back_v with_o conviction_n common_a to_o good_a and_o bad_a elect_a and_o reprobate_a and_o which_o come_v alone_o be_v so_o far_o from_o make_v a_o person_n worthy_a that_o it_o increase_v and_o aggravate_v his_o unworthiness_n 3._o suppose_v he_o be_v convert_v by_o receive_v which_o we_o deny_v it_o follow_v not_o thence_o that_o he_o receive_v worthy_o though_o it_o will_v follow_v he_o receive_v worthiness_n as_o at_o the_o word_n preach_v a_o natural_a man_n hear_v unworthy_o at_o that_o very_a sermon_n which_o 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minister_n first_o the_o trouble_n of_o pain_n must_v be_v take_v second_o the_o trouble_n of_o offend_v those_o who_o be_v averse_a to_o trial_n upon_o which_o account_n they_o may_v as_o well_o forbear_v the_o work_n of_o preach_v faithful_o matth._n 15._o 12_o and_o 1_o cor._n 1._o 23._o three_o the_o trouble_n and_o fear_n of_o lose_v their_o salary_n in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n to_o such_o i_o must_v commend_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n gal._n 1._o 16._o and_o entreat_v they_o to_o take_v heed_n of_o consult_v with_o flesh_n and_o blood_n as_o for_o weak_a and_o tender_a christian_n sacramental_a trial_n can_v be_v no_o matter_n of_o offence_n to_o they_o if_o they_o be_v right_o inform_v 2._o suppose_v the_o burden_n be_v never_o so_o intolerable_a act_n 15._o 10._o it_o be_v a_o burden_n of_o christ_n lay_v on_o and_o therefore_o must_v be_v bear_v the_o difficulty_n of_o duty_n never_o discourage_v where_o
together_o and_o recover_v will_n mr._n h._n say_v the_o nurse_n carelessness_n be_v moral_o good_a because_o it_o be_v eventual_o good_a pilate_n not_o rescue_v of_o christ_n be_v eventual_o good_a be_v it_o therefore_o moral_o good_a in_o like_a manner_n suppose_v a_o godly_a man_n deserve_v excommunication_n receive_v worthy_o his_o worthy_a receive_n be_v accidental_a to_o my_o neglect_n of_o tell_v the_o church_n wherefore_o by_o omission_n of_o that_o my_o duty_n i_o be_o guilty_a as_o if_o he_o have_v receive_v unworthy_o that_o and_o not_o his_o worthy_a receive_v be_v the_o natural_a and_o proper_a fruit_n of_o my_o omission_n yet_o further_o who_o ever_o will_v serious_o weigh_v and_o compare_v the_o supposition_n and_o inference_n may_v observe_v that_o mr._n h._n be_v not_o very_o cordial_a friend_n to_o excommunication_n how_o ever_o he_o may_v cry_v it_o up_o to_o cry_v down_o suspension_n with_o all_o lest_o i_o shall_v seem_v to_o be_v over_o rigid_a i_o must_v add_v that_o if_o this_o godly_a man_n deserve_v excommunication_n for_o some_o foul_a crime_n know_v only_o to_o i_o or_o some_o few_o and_o upon_o reproof_n humble_v himself_o etc._n etc._n i_o dare_v not_o say_v its_o my_o duty_n in_o that_o case_n to_o tell_v the_o church_n since_o the_o principal_a end_n of_o excommunicate_v this_o person_n be_v attain_v by_o private_a reproof_n matth._n 18._o 15._o but_o in_o case_n this_o godly_a man_n do_v obstinate_o persist_v and_o deny_v or_o defend_v the_o crime_n that_o be_v evident_a there_o be_v little_a hope_n that_o in_o such_o a_o condition_n he_o will_v receive_v worthy_o yet_o suppose_v he_o shall_v that_o will_v not_o excuse_v my_o neglect_n to_o tell_v the_o church_n upon_o his_o pertinacy_n after_o admonition_n first_o by_o myself_o and_o then_o with_o two_o or_o three_o more_o according_a to_o the_o rule_n matth._n 18._o 17._o by_o all_o have_v be_v say_v its_o apparent_a my_o sin_n of_o omission_n be_v not_o to_o be_v single_v by_o itself_o as_o mr._n h._n will_v have_v it_o and_o that_o i_o be_o more_o guilty_a if_o that_o godly_a man_n receive_v unworthy_o than_o if_o he_o have_v not_o receive_v at_o all_o since_o my_o tell_v the_o church_n in_o case_n he_o be_v obstinate_a may_v have_v prevent_v his_o great_a sin_n of_o unworthy_a receive_n to_o which_o i_o be_o accessary_a by_o not_o hinder_v it_o when_o i_o may_v and_o shall_v but_o his_o unworthy_a receive_n will_v not_o excuse_v my_o neglect_n to_o tell_v the_o church_n since_o his_o worthy_a receive_n upon_o the_o supposition_n be_v not_o the_o proper_a but_o accidental_a consequent_a of_o that_o my_o neglect_n and_o omission_n to_o what_o mr._n h._n add_v in_o the_o same_o page_n i_o answer_v we_o say_v not_o its_o absolute_o a_o duty_n to_o keep_v from_o the_o sacrament_n person_n visible_o unworthy_a this_o act_n be_v limitable_a by_o several_a caution_n but_o that_o it_o concern_v church-member_n by_o private_a admonition_n or_o tell_v the_o church_n to_o seek_v the_o reformation_n of_o such_o a_o person_n which_o regular_o do_v free_v private_a christian_n from_o guilt_n nor_o be_v there_o the_o same_o reason_n for_o keep_v any_o from_o the_o word_n and_o prayer_n as_o from_o the_o sacrament_n but_o of_o this_o former_o conscience_n as_o in_o some_o case_n excommunication_n itself_o may_v be_v forbear_v of_o which_o former_o in_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o tare_n so_o it_o may_v fall_v out_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o positive_a suspension_n which_o be_v very_o rare_a with_o we_o church-governor_n ordinary_o act_v rather_o by_o way_n of_o entreaty_n to_o forbear_v than_o by_o any_o juridical_a censure_n as_o for_o the_o minister_n suspend_v his_o own_o act_n of_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o one_o he_o know_v to_o be_v unworthy_a if_o mr._n h._n judge_v it_o a_o weakness_n in_o such_o a_o minister_n i_o hope_v how_o ever_o he_o will_v not_o force_v a_o weak_a brother_n to_o act_v against_o his_o conscience_n for_o his_o instance_n in_o the_o close_a of_o this_o section_n of_o the_o church_n admit_v infant_n to_o receive_v in_o the_o day_n of_o augustine_n he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o the_o ground_n thereof_o which_o upon_o better_a inspection_n be_v find_v weak_a yet_o withal_o i_o must_v be_v bold_a to_o tell_v he_o that_o if_o he_o will_v keep_v to_o his_o own_o bottom_n of_o church-membership_a he_o can_v turn_v infant_n or_o the_o distract_a out_o of_o his_o society_n who_o have_v better_a right_a to_o the_o lord_n supper_n than_o many_o he_o plead_v for_o but_o i_o pass_v this_o as_o former_o handle_v sect_n x._o the_o last_o objection_n be_v from_o the_o several_a text_n allege_v for_o separation_n from_o wicked_a person_n mr._n h._n no_o scripture_n allow_v a_o separation_n from_o any_o of_o god_n public_a ordinance_n a_o great_a part_n of_o my_o answer_n to_o this_o exception_n mr._n h._n pass_v 265._o page_n 265._o with_o tell_v the_o reader_n he_o have_v already_o satisfy_v those_o thing_n only_o he_o leave_v two_o note_n and_o 1._o where_o i_o say_v his_o excommunication_n be_v a_o cruel_a censure_n as_o cut_v man_n off_o from_o all_o ordinance_n mr._n h._n answer_n i_o be_o persuade_v mr._n d._n will_v be_v of_o another_o mind_n when_o he_o come_v to_o understand_v i_o better_o how_o i_o take_v this_o that_o be_v relative_o wherein_o i_o think_v i_o be_o near_o the_o truth_n answ_n by_o relative_a cut_v off_o from_o church-communion_n in_o general_a mr._n h._n mean_n to_o my_o best_a understanding_n that_o a_o person_n thus_o censure_v have_v no_o relative_a right_n to_o any_o church-ordinance_n yet_o by_o the_o church_n indulgence_n may_v be_v admit_v to_o any_o though_o not_o as_o a_o church-member_n whence_o it_o follow_v that_o he_o who_o be_v no_o church-member_n such_o be_v his_o excommunicate_v person_n may_v by_o the_o church_n indulgence_n be_v admit_v to_o any_o ordinance_n which_o if_o true_a i_o know_v no_o scriptum_fw-la est_fw-la for_o such_o indulgence_n than_o not_o only_a person_n dismember_v but_o also_o heathen_a may_v be_v admit_v to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n though_o not_o as_o church-member_n a_o great_a latitude_n indeed_o but_o i_o pray_v sir_n upon_o the_o supposition_n may_v the_o church_n indulge_v i_o a_o real_a enjoyment_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o which_o if_o excommunicate_v i_o have_v no_o relative_a right_n and_o may_v it_o not_o indulge_v i_o a_o relative_a right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n though_o at_o present_v it_o see_v good_a reason_n to_o deny_v i_o the_o real_a enjoyment_n thereof_o of_o this_o former_o therefore_o i_o pass_v it_o mr._n h._n ib._n not_o every_o sleight_n occasion_n but_o notorious_a crime_n must_v serve_v for_o church-censure_n if_o we_o allow_v any_o censure_n less_o than_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n church-censure_n be_v like_a to_o become_v ordinary_a and_o soon_o contemn_v etc._n etc._n 1._o by_o concession_n of_o the_o first_o branch_n yea_o though_o the_o crime_n be_v heinous_a so_o it_o be_v not_o notorious_a and_o public_a i_o do_v not_o think_v it_o must_v come_v present_o to_o a_o church-censure_n till_o private_a admonition_n be_v slight_v matth._n 18._o v._n 15_o 16_o 17._o 2._o yet_o that_o may_v possible_o be_v sleight_n to_o some_o which_o be_v very_o foul_a in_o itself_o whether_o you_o respect_v its_o substance_n or_o circumstance_n and_o such_o be_v affect_v ignorance_n 3._o if_o there_o be_v no_o censure_n less_o than_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n than_o belike_o public_a reproof_n be_v no_o church-censure_n sure_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o of_o mr._n h._n his_o mind_n 1_o tim._n 5._o 20._o 4._o if_o the_o cause_n of_o church-censure_n be_v ordinary_a church-censure_n caeteris_fw-la paribus_fw-la must_v be_v as_o ordinary_a that_o frequency_n make_v they_o contemptible_a be_v too_o true_a through_o our_o innate_a corruption_n which_o incline_v we_o to_o contemn_v christ_n the_o choice_a ordinance_n and_o mercy_n because_o they_o be_v ordinary_a but_o thence_o to_o argue_v it_o be_v better_o such_o mercy_n and_o ordinance_n be_v less_o frequent_a be_v antiscriptural_a and_o irrational_a for_o his_o personal_a reflection_n page_n 267-269_a i_o shall_v only_o say_v thus_o much_o i_o he_o take_v too_o much_o upon_o he_o to_o charge_v i_o so_o high_o especial_o with_o malice_n i_o confess_v i_o hare_n his_o free_a admission_n but_o love_v his_o person_n 2._o what_o i_o speak_v in_o thesi_fw-la and_o still_o apprehend_v to_o be_v a_o truth_n he_o first_o apply_v in_o hypothesi_fw-la and_o then_o exaggerate_v to_o make_v it_o seem_v more_o odious_a 3._o have_v i_o apply_v it_o personal_o to_o mr._n h._n i_o only_o note_v what_o god_n may_v just_o do_v as_o himself_o confess_v p._n 268._o and_o withal_o acknowledge_v as_o much_o against_o myself_o that_o god_n just_o may_v deal_v with_o i_o as_o a_o weed_n for_o cherish_v and_o
seal_n to_o a_o lie_n in_o admit_v that_o person_n who_o in_o charity_n be_v approve_v upon_o due_a trial_n he_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o judge_v worthy_a 2_o if_o the_o minister_n suspect_v a_o person_n legal_o approve_v he_o may_v and_o aught_o the_o more_o careful_o to_o warn_v he_o etc._n etc._n and_o by_o this_o mean_v i_o conceive_v he_o may_v clear_v himself_o but_o can_v keep_v back_o he_o that_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o major_a vote_n of_o the_o eldership_n only_o afterward_o have_v power_n to_o appeal_v etc._n etc._n let_v the_o reader_n now_o judge_n whether_o by_o seal_v a_o save_a interest_n in_o christ_n to_o a_o person_n who_o i_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o think_v evangelical_o worthy_a the_o minister_n do_v seal_n to_o a_o lie_n or_o 2_o if_o he_o seal_v a_o save_a interest_n in_o christ_n to_o a_o person_n who_o himself_o suspect_v yet_o can_v evince_v to_o be_v unworthy_a and_o who_o other_o have_v the_o same_o power_n and_o piety_n with_o himself_o judge_v worthy_a be_v a_o seal_v to_o a_o lie_n if_o indeed_o the_o minister_n know_v this_o person_n to_o be_v unworthy_a as_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n or_o jure_v excommunicate_a here_o the_o case_n be_v much_o alter_v of_o which_o i_o speak_v not_o in_o that_o paragraph_n only_o i_o be_o much_o behold_v to_o mr._n humphrey_n for_o endeavour_v to_o pin_v such_o a_o absurdity_n upon_o my_o sleeve_n if_o mr._n humphrey_n and_o the_o reader_n desire_v my_o judgement_n in_o this_o particular_a for_o my_o part_n if_o not_o only_o a_o presbytery_n but_o if_o a_o classis_fw-la yea_o province_n vote_v a_o person_n worthy_a who_o i_o know_v to_o be_v unworthy_a as_o have_v sufficient_a evidence_n of_o his_o gross_a ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a conversation_n back_v with_o impenitency_n and_o obstinacy_n i_o must_v desire_v they_o all_o to_o excuse_v i_o for_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o such_o a_o one_o yet_o will_v i_o not_o make_v any_o stir_n in_o the_o church_n if_o they_o appoint_v a_o other_o minister_n to_o give_v he_o the_o sacrament_n in_o my_o congregation_n by_o which_o mean_n i_o apprehend_v i_o shall_v be_v both_o clear_a of_o the_o guilt_n of_o his_o admission_n and_o withal_o preserve_v the_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o shall_v this_o carriage_n of_o i_o cost_v i_o a_o sequestration_n i_o hope_v i_o shall_v choose_v rather_o to_o suffer_v a_o penal_a then_o to_o commit_v a_o moral_a evil_n the_o case_n may_v be_v illustrate_v by_o other_o act_n of_o judicature_n both_o civil_a and_o sacred_a suppose_v the_o eldership_n vote_v the_o excommunication_n of_o a_o person_n who_o i_o know_v to_o be_v innocent_a or_o vote_v the_o non-excommunication_n of_o a_o person_n who_o i_o know_v to_o be_v jure-excommunicate_a in_o such_o case_n they_o must_v give_v i_o leave_v to_o enter_v my_o protest_n and_o not_o to_o act_v according_a to_o their_o vote_n against_o my_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n again_o in_o civil_a trial_n suppose_v the_o jury_n find_v a_o person_n guilty_a who_o the_o judge_n know_v to_o be_v innocent_a be_v i_o judge_v in_o that_o case_n i_o hope_v by_o god_n assistance_n neither_o law_n nor_o jury_n shall_v prevail_v with_o i_o to_o pronounce_v sentence_n against_o such_o a_o person_n the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v about_o the_o judge_n clear_v a_o person_n who_o he_o know_v to_o be_v guilty_a yet_o be_v acquit_v by_o the_o jury_n if_o the_o judge_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o pronounce_v a_o sentence_n of_o absolution_n against_o his_o knowledge_n and_o conscience_n which_o yet_o i_o think_v be_v not_o in_o practice_n among_o we_o since_o the_o verdict_n of_o the_o jury_n do_v acquit_v the_o prisoner_n only_o the_o judge_n in_o such_o case_n may_v haply_o complain_v of_o the_o jury_n etc._n etc._n my_o drift_n and_o scope_n in_o all_o this_o be_v to_o show_v the_o weakness_n of_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o cord_n wherewith_o he_o think_v to_o bind_v i_o and_o withal_o that_o i_o may_v make_v it_o appear_v to_o the_o reader_n that_o however_o pag._n 64._o mr._n humphrey_n triumph_v before_o the_o victory_n yet_o we_o be_v not_o force_v either_o to_o lie_v on_o the_o one_o hand_n or_o to_o come_v over_o to_o mr._n humphrey_n on_o the_o other_o hand_n for_o the_o last_o clause_n in_o this_o paragraph_n that_o see_v a_o minister_n be_v god_n ambassador_n and_o what_o he_o do_v be_v by_o commission_n we_o may_v as_o soon_o say_v the_o god_n of_o israel_n can_v lic_v as_o that_o the_o minister_n either_o seal_v a_o untruth_n or_o tie_n in_o do_v his_o office_n ans_fw-fr either_o the_o sense_n be_v that_o a_o minister_n when_o he_o act_n cleave_v non_fw-la errante_fw-la seal_v neither_o a_o untruth_n nor_o a_o lie_n which_o be_v as_o pertinent_a as_o if_o i_o shall_v say_v when_o mr._n humphrey_n preach_v truth_n he_o preach_v not_o a_o untruth_n or_o lie_n or_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o because_o a_o minister_n be_v commissioned_n by_o christ_n therefore_o he_o can_v err_v in_o this_o or_o any_o other_o part_n of_o his_o ministerial_a function_n which_o as_o it_o be_v a_o palpable_a error_n so_o it_o smell_v strong_o of_o popish_a infallibility_n what_o he_o add_v by_o way_n of_o amplification_n 66._o pag._n 64_o 65_o 66._o as_o there_o be_v much_o truth_n in_o it_o so_o his_o great_a mistake_n lie_v in_o apprehend_v that_o we_o can_v judge_v a_o person_n to_o be_v worthy_a or_o unworthy_a but_o present_o we_o meddle_v with_o god_n ark_n and_o enter_v upon_o god_n throne_n the_o weakness_n of_o which_o inference_n have_v be_v former_o lay_v open_a and_o therefore_o i_o do_v but_o only_o note_v it_o here_o for_o his_o answer_n to_o my_o exception_n against_o divers_a church-member_n receive_v 66._o pag._n 66._o though_o all_o may_v be_v present_a etc._n etc._n that_o yet_o the_o minister_n may_v be_v free_a in_o his_o office_n in_o deliver_v the_o sacrament_n in_o general_a as_o christ_n do_v and_o that_o especial_o because_o it_o be_v a_o visible_a word_n ans_fw-fr 1._o this_o 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