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A31126 The conformists sayings, or, The opinion and arguments of kings, bishops, and several divines lately assembled in convocation in favour of those who dissent from the present ceremonies of publick worship by a Minister of the Church of England. R. C., Minister of the Church of England. 1690 (1690) Wing C102; ESTC R13828 58,158 82

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pertained only unto a mans friends Christ gave this Godly law of Charity a true and clear interpretation that we ought to love every man both friend and foe adding thereto the Commodity to be the Children of our heavenly Father and this we shall be sure of saith Christ if we love every man without exception Conformists Plea for Nonconformists Part 4. pag. 106. The salutations of the Holy Apostles expressed their largeness and their Catholick love to the Corinthians among whom were great divisions to the Galatians and Colossians among whom were some very Erroneous so did their Benedictions peace be to Brethren and Love c. And Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus in sincerity Eph. 6.23 and verse 2. Bishop Davenants Letter to Duraeus Whether we will or no it s necessary that we all own Christ as our elder Brother and joyn in strict and Brotherly Communion with all that are his Brethren Moreover all must confesse true and genuine Charity is as necessary to the Salvation of all the Members of the Christan Churches as the true and entire profession of Saving faith Christ having made this love the Cognizance Whereby to discriminate his disciples and those who falsely professe his name he puts this question Whether it be safe Pious or suitable to the duty of Christian Churches not to stretch forth the right hand of Brotherly affection to those Churches which though they differ and in some lesser matters err may notwithstanding be Christs Martyrs and our holy Brethren Mr. Thomas Pierce on St. John the 13.35 Our love must be so extensive that it must reach even to all not only to our fellow-disciples but to all men living upon earth it must reach even to our enemies not onely to those without the pale of the Church who do us little or no hurt even Jews Turks Infidels and Hereticks for whom we pray once in a year in our English Liturgy but to our Crueller enemies within the Church P. 414. item 282. Whom our Lord hath enjoyned us not onely to forgive but pray for to love their souls to pray for their repentance and desire they may be sharers of immortality and blisse of which we shall not have the lesse but rather the more for having sharers and tells us on St. John 13.35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples c Love to Christians as Christians is as the badge and Cognizance the testimony and proof of our real discipleship under Christ and the firmest bond to hold us together in peace and love not so much that we are of one Countrey but that we are of one Christ or to expresse it with St. Paul that we have but One Faith One Baptism Doct. Hammonds Pract. Catechism under meekness to continue constant to the doctrine of the Catholick Church and maintain the inward Communion that of Charity with all the true Church of God wheresoever they are and with particular Churches so far as to embrace them with the armes of Christian Charity to joyn even with the erroneous Churches so far as they are not erroneous Separating onely from their Corruptions Idem on first Epist of St. John 3.14 We know that we are regenerate Christians by our Chariry to other men which he that hath not is clearly an unregenerate unchristian person Idem the first Epist St. John 4.7 And evidence of our being from God is Charity to our fellow Christians for that is most strictly commanded and exemplified to us from God and no practice renders us so like to Gods example and so concordant to his precepts as the sincere exercise of this duty Dr. Barrow ' s. Vnity of the Church annexed to his Treatise against the Popes Supremacy P. 36. The genuine meaning of that article Catholick Church may reasonably be deemed this that we professe our adhering to the body of Christians which diffused over the World doth retain the faith taught the Discipline settled the practises appointed by our Lord and Saviour and his Apostles that we maintain general Charity towards all good Christians that we are ready to entertain Communion in holy offices with all such Item on Rom 12.18 pag. 230 231. Serm. 3. pursue peace with all without any exception with men of all Nations Jewes and Greeks and Barbarians of all Sects and Religions persecuteing Jews and Idolatrous Heathens as at that time men of all judgments and perswasions Neither is there any evading our obligation to this duty by pretending of others that they entertain opinions irreconcileably contrary to ours that they adhere to Sects and Parties which we dislike and disavow that they are not so vertuous so Religious so Holy as they should be or at least not in such a mannner as we would have them Bishop Saundersons Sermon 3. Ad Aulam sect 39. Here is that evil partiality we are to take heed of when we restrain the Brotherhood or Neighbour to some one party or society in the Church such as we think good of and exclude the rest as if they had no part or fellowship in this Brotherhood nor consequently any right to that special affection where with we are to love the Brethren which partiailty hath indeed been the very bane of the Churches unity and peace and the chief Cause both of the beginning and of the Continuance of most of the Schisms under which Christendom hath groaned from time to time Englands Black Tribunal p. 222. As I am a Member of this Church so I am a Member of the Holy Catholick Church as I hold Communion with so I love and honour all Christians in the World that love the same Lord Jesus in sincerity and call on his name agreeing with those Truths that are absolutely necessary and clearly demonstrated in the Word of God though in charity dissenting from some others that are not necessary Dr. Hewyt's Speech at the Scaffold Dr. Alestrey's Sermon p. 168. Our Saviours addition Matth. 5.44 saith that we must love our Enemies The Christians hath no Canaanites as Deut. 7. but the most profligate Adversaries of his Religion he must love and pray for them although they persecute him which makes appear it doth at least include enemies of Religion for persecutions seldom were upon any other ground And Christ hath proved that the Samaritan he whom the Disciples would consume that Schismatick and rejector of Christ is yet our Neighbour Luke 10. and therefore him also we must love and pray for Item p. 322. Serm. 18. There is no sort of men nor any man whom it is lawful for a Christian not to love and all the reasons urged here by our Saviour do prove that all mankind whether good or bad is the object of a Christians love Mr. Kettlewells measures of Christian Obedience Edit 2. ch 3. l. 7. p. 133 and 134. It is not either distance of Countrey nor contrariety of interest no nor what is most of all presumed to exempt us from the obligations of this duty
men in Moderate and Charitable carriage as you have outrun them in complaints Doctor Crakanthorp In his Defensio Ecclesiae Anglicanae ch 33. Sect. 15. Puritanum qui Haereticus sit tu opinor in Anglia neminem unquam comspexisti You never saw in England I believe any Puritan Heretical in his Judgment Certe eorum ferè nullus cui quisquam inter vos pietate vitae Sanctimoniâ doctriná etiam ne tu quidem qui Magister es in tuo Israele paucis eorum conferendus es Certainly scarce any one of them with whom any men of yours can be compared in Holiness of Life in Learning also not you indeed who are a Master in your Israel worthy to be named in comparison with them Doctor Edward Bulkley in his Apology for the Religion Established being an Answer to Wrights Articles Edit 1608. Art 5. p. 105 106. There is neither Protestant nor such as it pleaseth you to call Puritans so far forth as I know and believe but as they deny the Popes wicked Supremacy which he hath usurped over the Church of God and Soveraign Princes so they do unfeignedly confess and acknowledge the Kings Power and Authority in his Kingdoms and Dominions and in all Causes and over all persons both Ecclesiastical and Temporal or Political They all say with St Paul that every Soul ought to be subject to the higher Powers whether they be as St. Chrysostom saith Apostle or Evangelist or Prophet whatsoever he be for this subjection doth not overthrow Godliness They all confess that it belongeth to his Royal dignity to see and procure not only Justice to be executed and peace maintained but also that God be truly and sincerely served according to his will revealed in his Word c. Bishop Andrews Respons ad Bellarmini Apologiam Edit 1610. p. 29. Bellarm. In Britannia magna multitudo Puritanorum qui I rimatum non ad Regem sed ad Senatum Ministrorum pertinere Resp Putida hac calumnia est Presbyterio forte lis est cum Episcopis cum Rege nulla est Vtrobique regi desertur ultro utrinque quod Caesaris est Caesari redditur Doctor Caves Gospel Preached c. p. 98. Many of the Presbyterian perswasion are not only sound and Orthodox in the main Articles of the Reformed Religion but Learned and able Defenders of it zealous Protestors against all the Horrid wickedness of this Day Jan. 30. and active Instruments in bringing home our Banished King Doctor Burgess Pref. to Vindicat. of our Ceremonies Some peaceable and very worthy Ministers were cast out after the Conference at Hampton Court Whereupon it was intended to bring them in by a kind of necessity or to loosen from them others c. Postscript To Serious and Compassionate Enquiry The modesty and excellent temper of several ancient Non-Conformist of this Nation is a fair Copy for those to Write after that cannot yet be perswaded to come compleatly over to the Church and I will intreat all sober Non-Conformist to remember after the conference at Hampton Court when the Non-conformists could not obtain their desire they were not Transported with heat and passion but ingenuously promised the Bishops that they would nevertheless Reverence them as spiritual Fathers and joyn with them against the common Enemy Hookers Discourse of Justification p. 41 I doubt not but God was merciful to save thousands of our Fathers living in Popish Superstition inasmuch as they sinned ignorantly Item p. 87. That Churches Deceit hath prevailed over none unto death but only such as took a pleasure in unrighteousness They in all ages whose hearts have delighted in the principal Truth and whose Souls have thirsted after Righteousness if they received the mark of Errour the mercy of God even erring and dangerously erring might save them True state of the Primitive Church Epistle to the Reader I verily believe there are thousands of Papists Lutherans and Calvinists both Learned and Religious who would lay down their Lives for the Truth they profess King Charles the first upon the Covenant Sect. 4. Touching the Discipline and Government of the Church c. Things which are of no clear and moral necessity but very disputable and controverted among Learned and Godly men Sect. 7. Yet as things now stand good men shall least offend God or me by keeping their Covenant in honest and lawful ways since I have the charity to think that the cheif end of the Covenant in such mens intentions was to preserve Religion in purity and the Kingdoms in peace Idem to the Prince of Wales Be confident as I am that the most of all sides who have done amiss have done so not out of Malice but mis-information or mis-apprehension I alledge this not to excuse or justifie those persons much less their Solemn League or Covenant but to show his charitable Sentiment of them allowing good men to have been in the number lead away with that Error of the times King Charles the Seconds Declaration concerning Ecclesiastical Affairs 1660. pag. 5. When we were in Holland we were attended by many grave and Learned Ministers from home who were looked upon as the most able and principal Assertors of the Presbyterian Opinions with whom we had as much Conference as the multitude of Affairs which were then upon us would permit and to our great Satisfaction and Comfort found them persons full of affection to us of Zeal for the peace of the Church and State and neither Enemies as they have been given out to be to Episcopacy and Liturgy but modestly to desire such alterations in either as without shaking the Foundations might best allay the present distempers which the indisposition of the Times and Tenderness of some Mens Consciences had contracted Pag. 17. Item Because some men otherwise Pious and Learned say they cannot conform unto the Subscription required by the Cannon nor take the Oath of Canonical Obedience c. Appendix to the third part of the Friendly Debate pag. 143. Tells us that Doctor Jackson always reverenced their Excellent Parts and good Labours though he disliked the deformity of their Zeal c. Bishop Saunderson on Rom. 14.3 Sect. 29. I make no doubt neither dare I be so uncharitable as not to think but that many of them i. e. Non-conformists have honest and upright and sincere hearts to God-ward and are unfeignedly Zealous for Gods Truth and for Religion They that are such no doubt feel the Comfort of it in their own Souls and we see the Fruits of it in their Conversations and rejoyce at it Judge Hales Discourse of Religion pag. 21. Some persons truly Conscientious observing the many corruptions that the Romish Church hath brought into the Worship of God are very suspicious of any thing that may look as they think that way though they are otherwise Men of sound and Orthodox Principles and of a truly Righteous and Sober Life Item p. 13. Scrupulous of the Ceremonies otherwise sound in the principles of Faith
You mean that all truly Pious and Conscientious persons ought to be treated with Candor and Respect before severe means be used or that the use of severe means is utterly to be forborn as far as may be that is as far as such forbearance may be reconcileable with the publick Interest which is to be preferred before the private of any person whatsoever I could for my part heartily wish it were so too Kidder 's Serm. 1 Pet. 3.11 pag. 22. We Quarrel first then we hate and when we are strong enough we persecute each other Vnion of the Catholick Church pag. 50. Men may make a noise with the Odious Names of Persecutions yet our Adversaries of both the Extreams have little reason to object that of which they themselves stand so deeply chargeable when in their power Principles and Practices of Moderation c. These persons the Moderate Divines of the Church of England are desirous that Mercy and Indulgence should be shown towards those whose Consciences will not permit them to comply with their Governours in some things disputable judging it a piece too near of kin to that of the cruel Procrustres ever to endeavour to force others to be just of their pitch and size in Opinions and to approve of their Sentiments Mr. Smythies Spirit of Meekness pag. 68. As the Galathians were overtaken in a fault Galat. 6.1 So we must account them likewise who have dissented from us Men that are guilty of Errours of practice they are wilful for they know they are wrong and yet they are to be treated with a Spirit of Meekness that they may be made sensible of their wickedness that they may be reclaimed without punishment by the Execution of Laws if it may be effected Much more then are others to be dealt tenderly with in their Errors of Judgment through weakness and inability of Mind for which they are to be pitied Conformists Plea for the Nonconformists Part 4. pag. 28. Whether men shall forfeit their Goods and Liberties for a Dissent in Religion by any Gospel-Rule or Rules of Christian Equity is a great Question and the Negative past doubt as yet Idem Part 3. pag. 5. The men speaking of Dissenters are given to pray hear Sermons sing Psalms and other pious Exercises and live if not better yet no worse than many that go to Church People think and say surely it is hard to drive honest Mens Cattle seize their goods break open houses for doing well Argument for Toleration and Indulgence in Difference of Opinion Printed 1681 pag. 3. Instead of bearing and Indulging to compel a person to serve the Deity in a way against the light and apprehensions he hath is the greatest Tyranny that can be for it is to compel him to the doing of a thing which on pain of Damnation he holds himself obliged not to do Item pag. 5 6. To be rigid and severe to others in matters of Opinion is not to comport with the Golden Rule of all our Actions prescribed by our Blessed Saviour which is to do as we would be done unto Wouldst thou be compelled thy self to anothers opinion that dost compel others Arguments and Reasons and not Capiasses and Imprisonments Fire and Faggot are proper means to effect it Thus the Ancient Fathers in all their Apologies to the Heathen in defence of themselves and the Christian Religion ever pleaded Mr. Kettlewel 's Measure of Obedience Edit 3. pag. 631. If we are rigorous and severe with our Brethren God will be so with us also and when he comes to judge us we shall find as little allowance at his hands as they have done at ours For he shall have judgment from God without Mercy who to men hath shewed no mercy but if any man hath been merciful to his Brethren God will be much more so to him This will be the best Plea that can be urged to obtain Mercy at Gods Hand Mat. 5.7 Peaceable Sentiments about Confessions and Articles of Faith BIshop Davenant 's Letter to Duraeus Unless the Forms of Publick Confessions be restrained to necessary and uncontroverted Doctrines this mischief will ensue that many Learned Pious and peaceable Pastors will be excluded and made unserviceable to the Churches where they live that therefore it doth behove the Rulers of the Church as being conscious of their own and of the infirmities of Mankind to be cautious least while they do require a too rigid and exact Confession they seem to weaken that sweetly necessary Communion which should be among themselves King Charles the Seconds Declaration from Breda That none forfeit his Benefice that subscribes all the Articles of Religion which only concern the Confession of the true Christian Faith and the Doctrine of the Sacraments Historia quinque Articularis Part 2. chap. 8. Cited by Dr. Puller 's Moder pag. 127. The Articles of this Protestant Church in the Infancy thereof were drawn up in general Terms foreseeing that Posterity would grow up to fill the same meaning that those Holy Men did prudently discover that difference in Judgments would unavoidably happen in the Church and were loth to unchurch any and drive them off from any Ecclesiastical Communion for petty differences which made them Pen the Articles in comprehensive words to take in all who differing in Branches meet in the Root of the same Religion Out of a Letter of the Bishops of Rochester Oxford and St. Davids to the Duke of Buckingham August 2. 1625. Exemplified in Heylin 's History of Archbishop Laud pag. 131. The Church of England when it was reformed from the Superstitious Opinions broached and maintained by the Church of Rome refused their apparent and Dangerous Errors and would not be too busie with every particular School point The Cause why she held this Moderation was because she could not be able to preserve any Unity amongst Christians if men were forced to subscribe to curious particulars disputed in Schools Some of them Montagues Opinions are such as are fit onely for Schools and to be left at more Liberty for Learn'd Men to abound in their own Sence c. Bishop Tailor 's Ductor Dubitant L. 3. chap. 4. R. 28. Sect. 8. No particular Church ought with rigour to require subscription to Articles which are not evidently true and necessary to be professed because in the Division of Hearts that is in the World it is certain that some good men may dissent and then either they shall be afflicted or tempted to Hypocrisie either of which if Ecclesiastical Laws be guilty they are not for Edification they are neither Just nor Pious and therefore oblige not Doctor Stillingfleet 's Vnreasonableness of Separation pag. 9. In the Preface If any Temper can be found out as to the manner of Subscription that may give ease to the scruples of our brethren and secure the peace of the Church and this I suppose may be done by an absolute subscription to all those Articles which concern the Doctrine of the true Christian