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A81829 The povver of the Christian magistrate in sacred things Delivered in some positions, sent to a friend, upon which, a returne of his opinion was desired. With some considerations, upon the answer; and a digression concerning allegiance, and submission to the supreame magistrate. By Lewis du Moulin, History-reader of the University of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1650 (1650) Wing D2551; Thomason E1366_4; ESTC R209267 40,736 161

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constrained to obedience but as they were ratified by the seale or supreame will of the Soveraigne Magistrate who usually did call and dissolved them VII Although all power and jurisdiction in all things be annexed to the Soveraigne Magistrate by that we doe not meane to diminish any thing of the nature of the Empire and jurisdiction which the Lord Iesus Christ even in this world hath over his Church whose members he knoweth by name and which he doth governe by his Word and Spirit VIII But to beleeve that the body of those that make an externall profession of the true Religion must be governed by Lawes made by persons distinct in jurisdiction or legislation from that power which belongeth to the Soveraigne Magistrate t is a thing which cannot be found in the Scripture where we doe read that the Church and Kingdome of the Iewes were the same thing and that in the Synedrium all causes were decided and all kinds of persons convented IX These things being premised as afore t is not understood that the government by Presbyteries Synods Classes or even by Bishops must therefore be abolished but onely that all their jurisdiction is like a branch or rivolet streaming from the fountain of power residing in the Soveraign Magistrate X. Neither is it understood that the Magistrate ought to give orders or preach the Word although magistracy and ministry be things very consistent no more then to create Doctrors of physick or the like but onely that the power to exercise any profession or calling externally is conferred by him and cannot be done without him XI That the calling of Lay-Elders is not of necessary use in a Country where the Magistrate is of the same Religion with the body of the people it being more then reasonable that so much or more power be granted to the Orthodox Christian Magistrate then they yeeld to the Elders in France XII Now because some think it unfit that the ministers and the causes which they maintaine to be of their cognizance should in all things be subalterne to the Soveraign Magistrate the only expedient if we beleeve them to make the Church and State to be one Christian Common-wealth under one Soveraigne power were that the Rulers and Over-seers of the Church as Ministers and Elders should have also the Common-wealth committed to them in the manner as the Waldenses or Albigenses were governed for it seemeth that such Ministers would be contented that the Church and Common-wealth were one so that they might have the whole rule and Government but rather then to misse a share they become strong assertors of a distinct jurisdiction whereof they may appropriate one unto themselves Sic hisuperiorem illi parem non ferunt A Letter Examining the foregoing Positions Sir YOu sent me certaine articles touching the Ecclesiastical policy and thereupon are earnest to know my opinion the which I was long in debate whether I should deliver or no questioning whether the declaring of my sence in this matter be of any weight or moment but since by your last you presse it further upon me telling me that some persons of wisdome and gravity and in authority in the state are earnest to know my sence and opinion thereon I have at length given way to your importunity leaving to your discretion either the suppressing of this writing or making of it publike The two first articles do lay down for a foundation that all humane actions ought to be done in faith and referred to the soveraign end which is to glorifie God and to obtaine salvation and that the duty of the soveraign visible power is to declare unto the people the will of the great Legislator and that the laws of the said soveraign power ought to be conformable at least no way repugnant to the Law of God All this is just and honest and it were a sinne against piety to contradict it The second article saith that the soveraign Magistrate hath right to regulate all humane actions which are tending to that soveraign end and that he alone ought to sway and preside over all meanes Lawes offices places and persons appertaining to the said actions else if there were two supreme Magistrates one over the actions they call Ecclesiasticall and another over the civill a great deal of confusion would ensue And that heresies schismes and wars did arise for the most part from the Popes dividing the said actions challenging to themselves the regulating of one part of them leaving the other to the Emperour and Kings thus setting up Imperium in imperio I am of opinion that there cannot be in a well composed State and so doth the scripture teach us more then one soveraign power and that all persons of what quality and condition soever are subject to the soveraign Magistrate and that the Pastors of the Church cannot be excepted or exempted from that subjection their duty being to exhort and dispose the people to be faithfull and obedient to that power by Gods providence set over them and chalk them the way by their example 1. Iosh all the people the Levites and the Priests being comprised speak thus to Ioshua All that thou commandest us will we do and whithersoever thou sendest us we wil go 1 King 1. v. 33. David saith to Bethsheba Take with you the servants of your Lord. The context shewes that Zadok the high Priest was of the servants of the King 2. King 23. v. 4. And the King commanded Helkiah the high Priest and the Priests of the second order And there he chideth them for not obeying his command in repairing of the temple S. Paul doth appeal to Cesar acknowledging him his Iudge Consideration NOte that S. Paul appeales to Caesar as to the supreme competent Iudge not onely in relation to his private person and cause but the cause of the Gospel for the question was whether there was any crime in preaching the Gospel and the Apostles acknowledge the worst of the Emperours the supreme power and Iudge Had Festus not been a competent Iudge in Ecclesiasticall matters but onely in civill instead of saying I am judged for the hope c. that is for the resurrection of the dead the chief point of Christianity he would have said I am not to be judged before thee in these matters Letter THe same Apostle Rom. 13. enjoyneth that all persons be subject to the higher powers acknowledging the powers that have the present rule to be given of God that is such as by a speciall act of his providence have the soverain power in hand St. Pet. 1.2 v. 13. Submit your selves to every ordinance of man for the Lords sake and note that the Emperour to whom obedience is commanded to be rendred was a tyrant and a most wicked man Nebuchadnezzar had subdued Iudea and lead the Iews captives yet Ieremiah speakes thus to the remnant of the Iewes not yet transported Submit your neck under the yoak of the King of Babylon and serve him
a State bounded as England by certain limits no doubt if it be one State or Comon-wealth it hath one Soveraigne power reaching as well to Cumberland as to Kent and Cornwall over all persons actions and causes for if some persons or causes were exempted as for example the persons and causes they call Ecclesiasticall within the same limits of Land I do not conceive that there can be any such power nor can I Imagine where that power in matters Ecclesiasticall or ordering Church wayes should reside by which the Supreame Civill Magistrate is bounded but there may be as well ten thousand Supream powers and Courts Ecclesiasticall within England as one single generall power for the Civill Magistrates Jurisdiction being distinct from the Ecclesiasticall he may not hinder that multiplication of powers every one of these powers assuming to be sui Juris in sacred things or if he hinders it and prevaileth to have but one Soveraign power in Church matters in all his Dominions this very act of prevailing will be a sufficient demonstration that there is but one Soveraigne power over all causes and persons Ecclesiasticall and Civill indeed the taking away the branch of the Jurisdiction and power of the Christian Soveraign Magistrate in things pertaining to the Kingdome of heaven is as much as to destroy all Ecclesiasticall power and Jurisdiction for besides that this makes the Magistrate but a cipher or zero in sacred things it abolisheth all Ecclesiasticall Discipline Parish meetings publick and uniforme exercises of the ordinances which cannot be performed but by the supreame Magistrates ordering permission or at least connivence and it reduceth all Church wayes to the congregational which way though it cannot be disproved all men naturally having a power to associate themselves upon their ordinary affairs without the Supreame Powers leave or ordering much more when those meetings are pious innocent and without danger to the publick weale yet if there be no other Church-way within all the Dominions of the Soveraigne Magistrate then the Congregationall not onely all Power of the Keyes and Jurisdiction in Church-matters is quite taken away from the Christian Magistrate but also all Presbyteries Classes Synods and with them their Power and Jurisdiction vanisheth and comes to nothing and in truth it will come to nothing if you doe not make that publique ordering of Church-way setting up of Ordinances uniformity of Catechising confession of Faith discipline censures to be a branch of the Legislation and Jurisdiction which the Soveraign Christian Magistrate is to have over all causes persons and actions for in Gods name where can that Power in Church matters be seated but in the Christian Magistrate May be you will seat it in all the Christian people within the Magistrates Dominions But by this the Christian people having the Soveraign Power in Ecclesiasticall shall have the liberty not onely as I said before to make as in England either one two or more yea ten thousand Nationall Churches as far differing one from the other in Rites and Constitutions as the Scottish Church is from the English and the English from the French the word of God not stinting whether associated Christians ought to be many or few in one body or whether many bodies or few in one Nation as England and whether they must be a collection of Churches joyned in one body of a Nationall Church or not And which is more this absurdity and great inconvenience will follow from this dividing of Powers that it will be free for Christians to erect in two contiguous Countryes under two distinct Magistrates as France and the Territory of Geneva one collective body of Churches ruled by the same Synods and Decrees under one Soveraigne Power in Ecclesiasticall and thus shall you have not Imperium in Imperio but Imperium in duobus Imperijs a confusion of Empires for who may have right to keep them from so doing If you say that both the neighbour Soveraigne civill Powers may hinder them to that I say either it is an usurpation in them to doe so or if not then that Power by which the Church is ordered is subordinate to the Soveraigne Christian Magistrate which is all I intended to make good But it may be said againe that all the Christians or all the Congregations who are big enough to make a Church such as the little number of two or three of Christ in the Gospel gathered together in Christs name within the Dominions of the Soveraign civill Power will have that humane wisedome as to erect but one Nationall Church and of the same latitude and extent that the Dominions are To that I say that this very liberty and humane wisedome which they make use of without a certaine prescript from God doth sufficiently evidence that they make use of the same guide which the Supreame Power doth imploy in the governing of the State and that since humane wisedome must be be called to help for the ordering of these two things they will have to be distinct viz. the Church and State none can be better trusted with them then the Supream Power of the State where the Church must be constituted and indeed the Christian Emperours have always modelled the Church after the fashion of the State or if you will the State after the Church because they were to depend of one supreame Power for as they had Bishops in every City whose bounds and extent was called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a Parish so had they a Defensor Civitatis and in every Province the Arch-bishop or Metropolitan was answerable to the Praeses or Proconsul and in every Diocesse the Primate or Patriarch was like the Lieutenant or Vicarius or Legatus To summe up all as the primum movens in the naturall body extendeth it selfe to all parts and functions of the body so the Soveraigne Power in a State hath an equall Jus Imperij in Ecclesiasticall and civill matters And as the sensitive and vitall parts are equally extended and circumscribed by the same limits so all the causes of what kind soever they be are bounded by the same supreame Power within the same limits of land as if on the North side Barwick is the bound of the civill Power of England so is it of the Ecclesiasticall But it may be demanded how the soveraigne Power may be said to have Jus Imperij in Divine Lawes I answer that properly the office of a Soveraigne Power is only ministeriall and in regard of God it is rather an administration then a power but in regard of men because it bindeth to obedience 't is a Power and Authority Now his Law is either just or unjust if unjust yet the obedience to it being not sinfull it must be obeyed as a Law in force for the strength of a Law doth not consist in that it is just but in this because 't is a Law ordained by him who hath Authority Now if this Law be just it must be obeyed for two reasons
and over all persons no prophet in his time prophesied but the 70 Elders who yet prophesied by the spirit of Moses communicated to them In Joshuah's time the Regall or Civill Supreame Power was joyned with the Sacerdotall and seated in Eleazar as we may read Numb 27. vers 18 19. c. And St. Peter in his 1 Epistle chap. 2. vers 9. he coupleth them together or rather maketh but one of them calling the Common-wealth of Israel a Royall Priesthood That these Powers were no lesse divided in Samuel appeareth by the word of God to him 1 Sam. 8. ver 7. They have not rejected thee but me as if he should have said this people is weary to be under thy government they must needs have a King of their owne but in so doing they have not so much cast thee off as me who had set thee over them After Saul the High Priests attempted nothing except it were by a speciall command of God without the Kings consent Thus when the Booke of the Law had been a long time lost and then found the Priests enquired of the Lord concerning that Book by the command and direction of Josias so that the supreame visible authority to judge whether the Booke found was to be received for the Law of Moses and the word of God did only belong to the King as we see in the 2 Book of King chap 22. 23. where we read that the King called together all sorts of men viz. Elders Priests Prophets and all the people and read the Book of the Law before them all and withall was the author of the Covenant to which all the people stood under the word people all ranks of men being comprised After the return from the captivity it is knowne that the Sacerdotall Kingdome was againe set up as it was in Joshuah's time and under the Judges Letter IN the 10th Article he saith it is not understood that the Soveraigne Magistrate ought to give orders which concession will serve to keep a part of the authority belonging to the Ministers for if the ordination doe belong to none but the Pastors only it followeth that to them only belongeth the degrading and exauctorating of Ministers which are either vicious or hereticks or yet uncapable They may take away what they have given but still the punishing of them for crimes is in the power of the Soveraign Magistrate Consideration THere might be yet a question made whether when the Supreame and Regall Power is set in it hath not much of the Ministeriall and Sacerdotall Office annexed to the Regall calling and paternall Right for 1500 yeares together the Soveraigne Power was joyned with the Sacerdotall and among the chiefe Cities of Greece the Kings were Priests omnino apud veteres saith Cicero qui rerum potiebantur iidem auguria tenebant ut enim sapere sic divinare regali ducebant The division that was made to Aaron was not of the Soveraign Power but of the exercise of the Office Besides Aaron was an expresse figure of Christ our great High Priest which office near the time of Christ even soone after the Captivitie was againe confounded with the Regall but not to make use of this plea I say it is of ordination as of taking of the degree of Doctor of Physick or Law in an Academy This co-optation though made without the speciall privacie of the Supream Power yet in generall 't is not done without his consent permission he hath stil an inspection over the man quatenus Physitian or Lawyer and so long as he exerciseth the profession In like manner though the Soveraigne Power doth not ordaine this particular man yet is ordination of his appointment and one of his Lawes though it comes first from God for so doth the morall Law which notwithstanding after it hath been published under certaine penalties becomes the Law of the Supream Legislator of the State we have amongst the Constitutions of Justinian some bearing that title De ordinatione Episcoporum Clericorum Letter NOw if the Orthodox Magistrate under whose shadow the Church subsisteth and the true Religion maintained should transgresse the limites vindicating to himselfe more power over the Church then God hath given him in his Word I shall alwayes give counsell to the Pastors of the Church and to the people to beare that yoake with patience without murmuring giving thankes to God for bestowing Magistrates who are conservators of the purity of the Gospel under whose shelter and protection the souls are directed to the way that leads to salvation Consideration I Conceive that if the Soveraigne Magistrate takes upon him the care of ordering Church matters that the Pastor and Church have a yoak so much the lighter and therefore have need of lesse patience to beare it then if they carried it themselves neither doe I conceive that the transgression here mentioned in the Letter can be any trespasse in the Magistrate and though it were one that it is not much materiall nor of any dangerous consequence he having as the Letter saith the maine qualification required in a Magistrate which is to be conservator of the purity of the Gospel and besides the main end being obtained which can ever be desired and aymed at in any government which is to be directed to the way that leads to salvation But suppose that the Magistrate abuseth his own power over the Christian people in ordering the things which concern the Kingdome of God I doe likewise conceive that here the Magistrate does trespasse as a tyrant and not as an usurper and is like him that is drunke with his owne wine and not with anothers in which there is yet a double trespasse the one against his owne body the other against the good creature of God which he spils to no purpose But as they say by way of proverb right is right still and wrong wrong in what ever disguise they appeare So mischiefe is a mischief still and as great a mischief in the Soveraigne Magistrate whether his power exceedeth in things they call Civill or things which pertaine to the Kingdome of heaven though the inconvenience be farre greater in mis-ordering the latter God having equally entrusted him over all persons and causes in a Christian Common-wealth In the discharge of which trust it were to be wished that all Christian Magistrates would governe without that distinction of Powers Ecclesiasticall and Civill FINIS February 25. 1649. Imprimatur Nathaniel Brent
which of them the Temple and Priesthood did belong Letter GRegory of Tours who wrote about the yeare of our Lord 585. the historie of France in the 18 chap. of the 5 book speaks thus to the King Chilperick If any of us O King go besides the path of righteousnesse thou mayest redresse him but if thou dost transgresse who shall be able to correct thee we speak to thee and thou hearest us but if thou wilt not who shall have the power to condemne thee but he that is Iustice it selfe At that time the Bishop of Rouen named Praetextat was in great reputation yet was this Bishop being accused to have adhered to Meroue who rebelled against Chilperick clapt into prison by the Kings command and sore beaten and banished to Garnsey Consideration ALL this is sufficient to prove that the Soveraigne power of the State hath alwayes challenged power over Ecclesiasticall persons by that which follows it will be as clear that they challenge likewise the cognizance and ordering of Ecclesiasticall causes and actions Letter THE Greek Emperours have called all the oeconomick Councells not expecting the consent of the Bishop of Rome and often against his consent as the first Councell of Constantinople and of Chalcedone Yea in matters of Religion and Ecclesiasticall policy one cannot deny but that the Soveraign power of the State hath made orders David made twenty foure ranks of Priests Salomon had the chief oversight of the building of the Temple and bringing in all the vessels We see in the Code of Iustinian great number of Lawes concerning not only the policy of the Church but also the purity of the doctrine as be the titles de summa Trinitate fide Catholica de Episcopis Clericis ne sanctum Baptisma iteretur By which Lawes it appeareth that the Emperours had power to punish the Bishops namely by the 123 Authentick chap. 1. the Emperour speaketh thus Si quis autem extra memoratam observationem Episcopus ordinetur jubemus hunc Episcopatu depelli Yea he there addeth pecuniary Fines Consideration AS by these Lawes in the code of Justinian it appeareth that the Emperours had power to punish the Bishops as the Letter saith so doe they much more clearely assert the right and power which the Supreame Magistrate hath not only over all causes they call Ecclesiasticall but to make Lawes and Constitutions of the same nature as the causes be Letter A Great part of the Capitularies of Charles the great and of Lewis le Debonnaire are Laws Ecclesiasticall like those we read in the Councels of those dayes The Councell of Meyns held in the yeare 813. begins thus Carolo Augusto verae religionis Rectori Defensori Sanctae Ecclesiae And the second Councell of Meyns speaks thus to Lewis le Debonnaire at the opening of it Domino Serenissimo Christianissimo Regi Ludovico verae religionis strenuissimo Rectori Defensori Sanctae Ecclesiae I doubt not but these Emperours made those Lawes by the counsell of the Bishops and Prelats within their Dominions But they were willing to have them currant under the name of their Imperiall Lawes and the stamp of their Authority for the Soveraign Magistrate is the servant of God appointed by God to see the Law of God observed amongst men and the pure worship of his name set up Consideration THe Soveraigne Power is constituted by God to the end that men might live godly justly soberly and peaceably A Heathen could say that in a Common-wealth the first care must be Religion the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Arist And there is good reason that the Soveraign Magistrate should seeke after that which he is in the first place to ask for which is the Kingdome of Heaven being the basis of humane society so saith Cicero Religio est humanae societatis fundamentum But that the duty of the Supream Power is equally to order the religion and the civill government St. Austin doth plainely set it downe in the third Book against Cresconius Grammaticus In hoc Reges sicut eis divinitus praecipitur Deo serviunt in quantum Reges sunt si in regno suo bona jubeant mala prohibeant non solum quae pertinent ad humanam societatem verum etiam quae ad divinam religionem In that Kings as they are injoyned by God doe serve God as they are Kings if within their Kingdom they command good things and forbid evill things not onely in things belonging to humane society but also to divine religion Letter ANd I doe not believe that in England there is any Minister of the Word of God found who doth not acknowledge a subjection to the Sovereign Magistrate but is rather exceeding joyfull that the holy Ordinances are setled by publick authority and therefore there is no feare that any of them should goe about to perswade that there must be an Ecclesiasticall Common-wealth differing from the civill and one Common-wealth within another 'T is all the fault we finde with the Pope and his Clergy that they have made Imperium in Imperio and that the Clergy by his Lawes cannot be convented before the Royall Judges for they have Courts of Judicature and Prisons severed from the civill they have their appeales to the Roman Court and are freed from taxes and impositions Consideration THat power which the Ministers doe challenge in censuring and punishing of offenders suspending from the communion or excommunicating as inherent and intrinsecall to the Ministers of the word and not being a branch depending of the jurisdiction of the Soveraign Christian Magistrate that power I say thus challenged is as much as to constitute one Common-wealth within another Letter FOr I doe not thinke that Bishops or Ministers ought to render themselves Judges in any cause civill or capitall to punish the offenders by imprisonment taxes or bodily penalties Jesus Christ never authorized them so to doe for he would not so much as accept of being an arbiter in sharing of an Inheritance For these reasons I doe not believe that those in whose hands God hath now entrusted the Soveraign Power in England shall have any ground of fearing that the Ministers so long as they discharge their calling making use of that authority that Jesus Christ hath given them have any intention to intrench upon the Power and Authority of the Soveraign Magistrate But because the third Article attributing to the Supream Magistrate a right to order all humane actions tending to the Soveraign end which is the glory of God and the salvation of souls might seem to draw this consequence that the soveraign Magistrate is judg of all actions about Ministry and the Preaching of the Word therefore the article addeth a prudent cautition viz. That we must obey the Soveraign Magistrate so long as his commands are not repugnant to Gods commands for if he should command the abjuring of the Christian Religion or bowing before an Idol or should introduce another propitiatory sacrifice for sinnes
Pastors or society of Christians get an increase of power of Jurisdiction and Legslation if they be a Law unto themselves and practise the duties of piety and exhort one another so to do Plinius the younger in the 97 Epistle to Trajan and the tenth book where he speaks of Christians saith that one of their crimes was that they joyned themselves in a covenant to live unblameably not to steal not to commit fornication not to defraud his neighbour and the like I believe that none will from that practise of the Christians argue that they took upon them more power for so doing then they durst under a Christian Magistrate except he were of the mind of some of late in Authority in England who disliked and endeavoured to suppresse all godly private meetings under pretence of Factions Sure if I mistake it not it will be found that the Pastors power of the Keyes had no life to compell the disobedient to Gods ordinances till they received it from the Soveraigne Magistrate when he gave his name to Christ who both more honoured and exalted Gods ordinances raising them from the dust and added weight to the heavenly messages by the mouth of the Ministers by being a terrour to the evil and punishing the ungodly To the power of persuasion and declaration he addeth that of coaction in which the Pastors have nothing to do The Bishop saith Saint Paul must not be a striker 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And hereupon Chrysostome saith well If a man is drawn from the faith the Priest must undertake with patience to exhort him for he cannot redresse him by force onely he must strive to perswade him to bring him to the right Faith Pastors saith the same Father are appointed to preach 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not to rule or command with authority Letter HEre I dare say that the Reformers of the Doctrine of the Pope have not retained the Keys that were under Popery In reforming the Doctrine they have also reformed the abuses cleaving to the Keyes which are abominable for in the Romish Church they extend the power of the Keyes so farre as pardoning sinnes in a judiciall way saying to the sinner I absolve thee from thy sinnes The Priest renders himself Judge in a cause wherein God is the party offended By vertue of these Keyes the Pope drawes souls out of Purgatory he looseth those he never bound and which are none of his flock he doth loose under earth because Jesus Christ hath said what ever you shall bind on earth he doth loose and dispence with oaths and vows and freeth Subjects from the obedience due to their Soveraigne Prince he separates marriages exempting also children from the obedience they owe to their Father and Mother These holy men of God who have reformed the Doctrine have left off those Keyes and kept those which Jesus Christ hath given to his Disciples and their successors I will give thee the Keyes of the Kingdome of heaven it was also impossible to reform the Doctrine without reforming the Keyes since those Keyes are a part of the Doctrine they have retained to themselves the power to bind and loose which Jesus Christ gave to his Disciples Math. 16. Whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth c which power goeth no further then Ecclesiasticall censures as the Lord Jesus Christ teacheth in the same place giving to understand that by this binding the rebellious sinner is put among the Publicanes and sinners who were excluded from the Communion of the Church Thus we must understand the power of remitting or reteining sinnes given by Jesus Christ to his Disciples The faithfull Pastors do remit sinnes when they release men of Ecclesiacall penalties and receive to the Communion of the Church the repenting sinner who was excluded Consideration THe Reformers have done as Richard the third in usurping a power which yet he exercised with moderation and making of good Lawes so did Augustus Caesar and some more Thus the Reformers have reteyned the Keyes to which they had no more right then the Pastors of the Romish Church but have taken away those adjuncts of abuses and abominations adhering to the power of the Keyes In that sence as Richard the third may be said to have usurped the Crowne as well as he who to usurpation hath added a tyrannicall Government and making of wicked and unjust Lawes so may it be said that the Reformers in reforming the Doctrine have reteined the power of the Keyes the Article thus speaking having no further meaning then to say that the Reformers in reforming the Doctrine have still challenged to themselves an Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction not belonging to the Civil Magistrate even as the Pastours of the Romish Church have donc though not the same for qualifications As for the meaning of the words dic Ecclesiae tell it unto the Church it cannot have much strength what ever interpretation one may give to the words whether by the word Church we understand a Synagogue or judicatory as was that of the Iewes amongst which there was no difference between Church and State or Common-wealth or a society of faithfull men and though by the Church Pastours should be understood I do not see here any Iudiciall sentence binding him that trespasseth against his neighbour but still he may if he will hearken without fear of any coercive power seated in the Ministers and the words Let him be to thee a heathen or a publican have no further meaning then have him for such a one in thy thoughts and estimation a Publicans office was lawfull neither yet could he be excluded from the communion nor from the congregation the very heathen not being excluded from the latter for how else could they have been converted Letter THE Reformers then in reforming the abuses in the Doctrine and Keyes have retained the Keyes and power to bind and unbind committed to them by Jesus Christ The Author of the Articles acknowledgeth that the Pastors of the Church have well done to retain that power under the heathen Emperors that is almost for the space of 350 yeares from Christ to Constantine the first Christian Emperour since which Emperour the said Author thinks that the Bishops and Pastors were to part with that Power and that the Soveraigne Power of the Keyes did no longer belong to them but that they were to desert it in obedience to God which yet they have not done for all the ancient Councels although convened by the will of the Emperours are full of penitentiall canons prescribing the forme time and degrees for publique pennances in the execution of which canons the consent of the Emperours nor of their Lieutenants was never expected Consideration WE have seen before that the power of the Ministers is neither increased nor diminished whether the Magistrate be Orthodox or no and that the power of the keyes given them by God hath more lively actings under the Orthodox Magistrate To that part of the Letter which saith that in
wrath sets the most contemptible amongst men and children for Kings even children in judgement over the people that they may depend more on the King of Heaven Yet the most part what they want in personall abilities to act of themselves they recompence in judgement and discretion about the choice of Counsellours many unlearned Fathers and unacquainted in the wayes of education of children will have a good sagacity in choosing able Tutours for their children In like manner the Soveraigne Magistrate may wisely order the course of Law Sciences Arts Trades Manufactures though he be litttle or nothing versed at all in any of them And if it were required that the Soveraigne power should be exactly conversant in all the actions they order there had need to be in a State so many Soveraigne powers as there be acts and disciplines and were they never so capable yet they will do wisely to choose able Counsellours much more in a matter of so high importance as is the deciding of controversies in Religion and ordering the actions belonging to the Kingdome of heaven ubi magna negotia magnis egent adjutoribus and amongst those Counsellours none will be so fit as Divines men of Learning Gravity and Piety Thus if the Soveraigne power goeth about to reform the abuses of severall Professions and Arts within his Dominions as for example of Physick no doubt but he will joyn with his Counsell the most skilfull of that Art But that the Pastours or Ministers are not the fittest to have a Supream Iurisdiction over persons and causes they call Ecclesiasticall reason and the sad experience of former times teacheth us for were they endowed with knowledge by Revelation and had Ecclesiasticall Assemblies compounded meerely of Divines a non-erring gift not communicable to any other Assemblies of men I should willingly and necessarily admit that Divines ought to be assisting the Christian Magistrate not onely as Counsellours but also as Iudges coequall to them yea Superiours in that Iurisdiction which they challenge to themselves but the gifts of Government being not inseparably joyned with those of preaching and the Ministers not being endowed with 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or infallibility more then those that sit at the Stern of the State can be I do not see but that their proper place and employment is to be counsellours to the Soveraigne power in matters belonging to the Kingdome of heaven But being falne insensibly upon the rank and station that Ministers ought to keep in a Christian Common-wealth because it is a matter complicate with the question in hand concerning the pretended Ecclesiasticall Jurisdiction distinct from the Civil it will not be amisse to discusse which of the Governments either by Bishops or onely Presbyters is most consistent and compatible with the peace and safety of a Christian Protestant State If it be admitted on all sides that there is but one power of Legislation and Jurisdiction in all causes and over all persons belonging to the Supream Magistrate I conceive that then Bishops overseers set over many Congregations besides that they are more agreeable with the Primitive institution will much ease the Supream power of the care they must take in ordering persons and causes nearer concerning the Kingdome of heaven for his inspection being but over the Bishops Factions and Heresies will not so easily spread among the multitude of the Christian people as if he were immediately to overlook the actions of the great body of Presbyters who being numerous may easily escape his eyes and have a greater freedome to innovate Therefore Moses being Supream in all causes and over all persons It was a wise counsel of Jethro his father in Law to wish him to set under him men over the people who besides that they bore the burden with him those men being far lesse for number then the people it was easie for Moses to oversee them But under those Magistrates who should condescend to a divided and distinct Iurisdiction one being civill and exercised by themselves the other Ecclesiasticall and of Divine right belonging to the Ministers of the Gospell In that case I do conceive that few Bishops set over Presbyters and being Independent from any other power have a greater opportunity to Lord and tyrannize over the Christian people then a numerous company of Presbyters of the same rank and equall Authority can have Letter NOw for that the Author of the articles would have this distinction of civill and spiritual abolished 't is a thing very hard to change and alter the nature of things as if one would take away the distinction betwixt black and white Let men doe what they can and say what they will the questions about Faith will be still spirituall things and suites in Law for money or houses will be still civill and temporall matters If we change the words the nature of things cannot suffer alteration Consideration THe Magistrate is no more head of two things Church State then of thousand kinds of actions in a Christian Common-wealth which for every one of them needs not a particular Soveraign a Power Now these two things Christian Church and Common-wealth cannot be so much as conceived to have a reall being without each other for as every man is a reasonable creature and every reasonable creature a man so every Christian Common-wealth is a Church and every Christian Church a Common-wealth I speak of those Churches that have as large and spacious extent of place as the Common-wealth it selfe for in some other sence a family in a house is called a Church and according to that acception every Church should not be a Christian Common-wealth I think the Church is not different from the Christian Common-wealth more then the understanding is from the Soul for as powers and faculties are believed by great Philosophers not to be distinguished really from the Soul however though there should be a difference it cannot be so distinct as that the power can have a distinct being from the Soul but that at least all powers are subaltern and subordinate to the chief power called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which sits at the stern of all faculties and directs and modifies all actions though never so severall contributing as well to ratiocination and vision as to the coction and expulsion In the like manner that Soveraigne power in a State though one in essence hath its severall faculties or powers from which severall actions do stream tending to the ordering of the whole man in his being and well-being as well in things of the inward man as the outward And to follow he analogy between the body of man and the State it is no little illustration to beget belief that as the primum movens or Soveraigne power is one and extends it self as far as it is circumscribed by the cuticula or thin skin there being not one Soveraigne power for the head another for the lower regions and a third for the hands and feet So in