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A61546 A discourse concerning the power of excommunication in a Christian church, by way of appendix to the Irenicum by Edward Stillingfleet ... Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. Irenicum. 1662 (1662) Wing S5583; ESTC R38297 24,655 38

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