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A13216 Redde debitum. Or, A discourse in defence of three chiefe fatherhoods grounded upon a text dilated to the latitude of the fift Commandement; and is therfore grounded thereupon, because 'twas first intended for the pulpit, and should have beene concluded in one or two sermons, but is extended since to a larger tract; and written chiefely in confutation of all disobedient and factious kinde of people, who are enemies both to the Church and state. By John Svvan. Swan, John, d. 1671. 1640 (1640) STC 23514; ESTC S118031 127,775 278

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Magistrate Kings and Princes therefore are not sent to abolish this power and order but where they find the same to nourish it yea and to see that it goe on and doe that which shall be for the glory of God and the good of the Church For wherreas Church officers might be resisted and disabled without the assistance of such a chiefe governour and whereas they might bee either negligent or otherwise in their office then beseemes them it is the goodnesse of God to send Christian Kings as chiefe fathers both for and over them that thereby all may goe well among such as professe the name of Christ in a Christian Church To which purpose the words of Saint Austin are not impertinent In hoc Reges Deo serviunt sicut eis divinitus praecipitur Aug. contra C●esconium lib. 3. c. 15. in quantum sunt Reges si in suo Regno bena jubeant mala prohibeant non solum quae pertinent ad humanam societatem verum etiam quae ad divinam religionem Meaning that Kings herein serve God as it is commanded them from above in that they be Kings if within their Kingdome they command good things and forbid evill not onely in things pertaining to humane fellowship or civill order but also in things pertaining to Gods Religion Now hee that does this must needs bee supreame Governour over all persons in all causes as well Ecclesiasticall as civill within his owne dominions or else he cannot doe it But seeing God hath given him this power doth he not therefore call Councels to have Lawes and orders made and matters where need is to be setled for the good of his Church Yea and because this power of supremacie comes to him from aboue it cannot be in Man to take it from him Factibi et erunt tibi saith * B●●… Andr in his Sermon upon Numb 〈◊〉 1.2 one of whom we may learne to speake was that which God said to Moses and to him onely There was no Fac tibi said to Aaron And therefore the propriety or right of both Trumpets commanded to be made for the calling of Assemblies both in the Church and State must rest in Moses From whence it came to passe that ever after whosoever was in Moses his place must have the same right and power that Moses had Sometimes I confesse there was no such magistrate but no sooner did God send one againe then that this power was put in practise witnesse Nehemias after the captivity Neh. 7.64 1 Mac. 14 4● Simon after the fury of Antiochus yea and witnesse also that famous Constantine whom God raysed up to overthrow the power of the persecuting Dragons and to reduce things to their former order Yet neverthelesse this power of correcting ordering calling and disposing of men in matters of the Church gives no authoritie to Kings or cheife Magistrates to make new Articles of faith to preach the Gospell administer the Sacraments denounce excommuication or exercise the function of the Priests in their Church-service For in these things Princes must forbeare to meddle and acknowledge Priests to bee their pastours submitting their greatnesse to be obedient to them in their directions yea even to the meanest of Gods Ministers sincerely declaring the will of God For though they may force the Priests where they find them negligent to doe their duties yet the duties themselves they cannot doe Defence of the Apolog part 6. cap. 9 Divi● 1. ● pa. 558. Whereto agreeth that of Bishop Iewell Christ saith he is evermore mindfull of his promise for when hee seeth his Church defaced and laid waste hee raiseth up faithfull Magistrates and godly Princes not to doe the Priests or Bishops duties but to force the priests and Bishops to doe their duties The duties themselves then must not be done but by the Priests and doing of them Princes must bee obedient to them not despising as hath beene said the meanest of Gods Ministers sincerely declaring the will of God For as Gods Ambassadours they beseech exhort admonish and reprove even them if need be as well as any other of Gods heritage Num c. 16 c. 17. Who can be ignorant that it was a Corah and his company which would have all the Congreation alike holy whereas it was Aarons rod among all the rods of the Tribes that flourished 1 Sam. 13. 2 Chron 26. So●om lib. 7. cap. 4. Also who hath not heard that it was a Saul who dared to offer sacrifice in the stead of Samuel and Vzziah that invades the Priests office But it was the part of a good Theodosius to * So also did K. David to the ●●ssage of the Prophet Nathan 2 Sam 1● 13 〈◊〉 in ●●ronol submit to the censure of an upright and holy Ambrose And yet neverthelesse the said Father granted that it was the right and power of Princes to summon Councels For about the yeare of our Lord 381. there was a Synod at Aquileia in which Saint Ambrose was president Who with the rest there assembled did fully testifie that by the appointment of the Emperour and power of his authoritie they held their Synod And hereupon it was that they gave notice to him of all their proceedings therein These are the first SECTION II. THE second follow and they are those whom the * So King Iames cals the Puritans in his Basilicon Doron lib. 1. pag. 41. Pests of the Church but not the scriptures or primitive times account abhominable I meane the reverend Hierarchie of renowned Bishops so much condemned by the fiery Zelots of our peevish Puritans whom nothing can please but their owne fancies They contend for parity and would have all be intitle as high as Aaron They would that all should be Governours rather then private Ministers whereupon they urge that of right there are no Diocesan but onely parochiall Bishops That the authoritie and jurisdiction and rights of a Bishop are no other then what belongeth to all Parsons and Vicars of parish Churches and consequently that every such Parson and Vicar is as good a Bishop as the best Neither doe some but thinke that the Church cannot or ought not to bee governed without a wise worshipfull company of Lay Elders which may annually be removed and returne at the years end to their trades and occupations againe But that these and the like are but idle fancies appeareth both in regard of Christs owne order or institution when he laid the foundation of his Church in regard of the Apostles owne times and also in regard of the Primitive times after them As for the first thus it was The Apostles did not ordaine the difference They onely proceeded as Christ had ordained For as there were chiefe and inferiour Priests in the times before Christ in like manner at the first preaching of the Gospell the foundation of the Church was so laid that all Priests were not in all things equall for the twelue Apostles were first called and sent
shall shew thee the sentence of judgement Upon which ground David setting the Kingdome in better order then in processe of time it was growne into 1 Chro. 23.4 appointed sixe thousand Levites to bee Indges and Magistrates over the people and beyond Iordan towards the West 1 Chron. 26.30 a thousand and seven hundred both to serve God in the place of Levites and also to serve the King in offices of State ibid. verse 32. Hee also set two thousand and seven hundred to bee over the Tribes of Ruben Gad and Manasseth to heare and determine in causes both Ecclesiasticall and Civill The like also did Iehosophat in his reformation of the Church and Common-weale 2 Chron. 19.5.8.11 Ezra was a Priest Ezr. c. 7. 8. yet who but he that first of all after the Captivitie ordered all matters both for the Church Nehe. c. 1. and State Nehemiah came not up untill 13. yeares after for Nehemiah was in the twentieth and Ezra in the 7. yeare of Artaxerxes Zorobabel I grant was long before but he did little or nothing for the reducing of things into a forme of government or suppose he did Ezra we are sure did a great deale more Neither was it 1 Sam. c. 2.18 c. 7.15.16 but that even before all these Samuel as a Priest ministered before the Lord in a linnen Ephod and as a Iudge did ride his circuit every yeare over all the land yea and in the daies of Saul although he was the annointed King yet Samuel ruled joyntly with him so long as they lived each with other or at the least was such a Counseller to him as that after hee was dead and buried he seeks to heare what he would advise or answer standing then destitute of such direction as he had usually received from him Nay sooner yet for Phineas was sent Ambassadour to proclaim war against the Rubenites the Gadites the half tribe of Manasses Iosh 22.12.3 The Priests overthrew the Citie Iericho Iosh 6. Nor did they afterwards but sound their Trumpets and bid the battell in the warre of Ahiiah against Ieroboam 2 Chron. 13.12.14 The land also is divided among the Tribes by Eleazar and Ioshua Numb 34.17 A thousand likewise of every Tribe is sent out to war against the Midianites under the conduct of Phineas Numb 31.6 And in the same warre the spoyles were divided among the Souldiers by Moses and Eleazar the Priest and the cheife Fathers of the Congregation verse 26. The people also were numbred by Moses and Eleazar in the plaine of Moab as they had been numbred formerly by Moses and Aaron in the wildernesse of Sinai Numb 26.63.64 From which testimonies it is plaine and manifest that some such Priests as the King thinks fit may when he pleaseth be lawfully employed in civill affaires or offices and may even thus be honoured as were those Priests of old And whereas some object that arguments drawne from the old Testament An objection answered prove nothing now under the New it is answered First that they may as well deny the arguments taken from thence against the Popes authority and domineering power over Christian Kings and Princes as denie these arguments for proofe of that civill honour which is thus given to the Ministers of the Gospell And therefore it is not love but envie which would seeme to bolster out things with such new Divinitie Secondly the Ministers of the Gospell as one hath well observed may with more convenience be employed in civill offices then those Priests under the Law whose time is not now taken up as then it was with attendance on the daily sacrifices great number of feasts solemnities and such like occasions by which their leisure was lesse to heare civill matters then now to the Minister under the Gospell Thirdly the Ministers of the Gospell have succeeded in a place of the Levites and looke what in that kinde was lawfull for them to doe is not unlawfull now especially seeing these employments pertained not to things typicall figurative or ceremoniall And fourthly although Christ and his Apostles were never thus employed yet is that nothing against our tenet For who made me a judge over you sayth Christ Intimating Luke 12.14 that unlesse the supreame Magistrate shall assigne Clergie-men to such offices they may not meddle with them But had the Church and Common-wealth been both one then it had beene as lawfull as in the daies of old which appointment or assignation was never like to bee so long as the Church was in the Kingdome of heathen tyrants Certain it is that when the Emperours became Christians some men of the Church were thus employed And although the condition of the Ministers of Christ differed not in this from that of the Levites yet it could not shew it selfe till then Examples are not wanting Theod. lib. 2. c. 30. Theodorit makes mention of one Iames Bishop of * Called also Nysibit Antioch in Mygdonia who shined with Apostolicall grace and yet was both Bishop and governour of the aforesaid Citie Or if this testimonie be obscure see another Saint Ambrose was twice employed in the office of an Ambassadour by the Emperour Valentinian and not without good successe Socrates also makes mention of one Marutha Socrat. lib. 7. c. ● Bishop of Mesopotamia whom the Emperour of Rome sent in an Ambassage to the King of Persia which employment likewise proved good both to the Church and Common-weale Neither can this bee called an inuasion of the offices of the civill Magistrate or be contrary to the rule of any auncient Canon when it is done by the consent and appointment of the chiefe Magistrate as in the lawes of Iustinian alledged by Saravia is apparent Lib. de honore Prasulibus et Presbyt debito cap. 20. And although the the Popes lawes have decreed the contrary yet it is not fit sayth one that we which are a reformed Church and have long since abandoned the Popes authority Dr Dove of Church govern pag. 40. should now forsake God and the examples of the holy Bible to follow the Pope and his Canons Fiftly and lastly Saint Paul thought it lawfull to spend his spare time in the worke of his hands But if the necessitie of Domesticke affaires may excuse a Pastour of the Church for so doing then much more may they be excused for doing such offices when the King thinkes it fit that they bee called thereunto as shall benefit the common wealth wherein they live Neither doth this appertaine to the entangling of our selves with the things of this World For that text where this is mentioned striketh at those whose covetous hands and greedie hearts are so glewed to the earth for the gathering to themselves a private estate that they forget every such thing as may tend to the good either of the Church or State wherein they live which every good Christian and therefore every upright man of God
up by the Emperour Anno 1048. in the yeare 1048. but Pantaleon out of Platina affirmeth that he entred by force After all which to adde life to the foresaid practises came Hildebrand otherwise called Gregory the VII in the yeere of our Lord 1073. Anno 1073. and he most of all exalted himselfe above the Emperours arrogating as a thing proper to the Popes the power of constituting Kings and Emperours causing the Emperour Henery the IV. to attend three daies barefoot at his palace gate Anno 1095. Anno 1102. Vrban the second and Paschall the second gave nourishment to Gregories proceedings Adrian the IV. chides with the Emperour for holding his wrong stirrop Alexander the third treads vpon the Emperours necke Celestine the third crownes him with his foote then kickes the crowne off againe to shew his power And to make it appeare that all was now in these Prelates hands Boniface the eight proclaimed it in an open Iubilee Anno 1300. in the yeere of our Lord 1300 cloathing himselfe the one day in the pontificials of a Bishop and the other day in the robe royall of an Emperonr causing two swords to be carried before him and these words to be uttered Ecce duo gladij Behold the two swords meaning that both the spirituall and temporall power were now in the hands of the Church and that therefore none of the Clergie ought to be obedient to the civill Magistrate In which tenets and practises both he and his fellowes did not onely transgresse the truth purely taught maintained and practised in the first times of the Gospell but also went contrary to the ancient times of those many godly Prophets and Priests under the Law witnesse in the Court of the Iewes one for all even Nathan who when he came before the King made his obeysance called him his Lord and acknowledged himselfe a subject or servant to him 1 Kin. 1.24 as it is in the 1 Kin. 1.24 And in a strange common weale Daniel in the court of Darius shal suffice Dan. 6.21 who prayed for the life and prosperity of the King Dan. 6.21 The reason of which obedience and subjection is not as they are Prophets Prelates or other Priests but as they are Citizens and members of a body politicke Igitur ut tales subjecti esse debent eivili potestati Therfore as such they ought out of duty to be subject to the civil power But otherwise in causes meerly Ecclesiastical they are exempted by a divine right from secular judgements For in all such causes as pertaine to men bearing office in the Church whether it have respect to the function of their ministery or to the key of their governement in foro exteriori Priests also must be honoured reverenced and obeyed than whose office I know as Saint Ambrose witnesseth none more excellent A●…br de dig ●it sacerdot cap. 3. Iosepb antiq lib. 11. cap. 8. none more honourable which was also declared by Alexander the Great when he met with Iaduah the high Priest of the Iewes as Iosephus tels the story Or to come more neerely to our selves which was also declared by Theodsius the first who was willingly content to submit and yeeld himselfe to the reproofe and admonition of the aforesaid Ambrose by whom hee was though not excommunicated yet prohibited to come as at other times into the holy Temple by reason of that great and rash Massacre of the Thessalonians untill upon his heartie sorrow he obtained at length the assent of that holy Father For thus he though an Emperour was subject Domino spirituali as wee Domino temporali propter dominum aeternum Of which act even as it was done on either side Theodoret speakes after this manner Theod. lib. 5. cap. 17. saying that when all was done both by the Bishop and Emperour Tali tantaque virtute et Pontifex et Imperator erant illustres as it is in the latine version Meaning that what they both did the Bishop in using his power and the Emperour in submitting unto it made them both famous Sozom. lib. 7. cap. 24. And in Sozomen the same story is againe recorded To which is added that by the appointment of this holy Father the Emperour was placed or seated in the Church so as was thought to be most covenient And yet this man was no papall but a painefull Bishop one that feared not to speake or rebuke the greatest if need or occasion required him so to do For Neque imperiale est libertatem dicendi negare Neque sacerdotale Ambr. Epist 29. quod sentit non dicere It is saith he neither Prince-like to denie libertie of speech nor Priest like not to speake what he thinketh The one argues an affront offered to God whose messenger he is that speaketh The other is a signe of cowardise in Gods Minister who may not hold his peace if there be iust cause to reprehend And of him Saint Hierome witnesseth that his writings and books are incorrupt and that his sentences are most firme pillars of the faith and of all vertues beside The like to which doth Saint Austin also testifie Yea and the very Emperour himselfe confesseth freely that the sentence of the said Ambrose was just and right Nota enim est mihi saith he justiciae sententia Ambrosij Theod lib. 5. cap. 17. neque ille reverentia Imperatoriae po●estatis divinam transgressurus est l●gem Long before the which times was one Fabianus about the yeare of our Lord 239. Euseb lib. 6. cap. 33. who would not suffer the Emperour Philip to joyne tanquam consors in precationibus multitudini ecclesiasticae would not suffer him I say to joyne with the faithfull in their prayers when they were met in the Church untill hee had first stood in loco poenitentium because although he wished well to Christianitie yet in multis culpabilis effet that is because in many things he was still faultie And therefore to spurne against the power and authoritie of Gods Ministers and to draw backe from a mutuall or reciprocall subordination betweene the officers of the Church and common weale is but to kicke against the pricks and to joyne with Corah and his company who cry against the Priests Downe with them downe with them even to the ground for ye take to much upon ye oh ye sons of Levi cry such as these And so doing they be also in the number of those who curse their Father and do not blesse their mother And thus I am come to the next sort of Parents the Fathers of the Church Now though in this discourse I come not to these untill the last yet are they not therfore to be disrespected For prejudicate opinions may not rob another of what is right Nor is it any breach of piety to see the Church in dignity I shall shew it that there bee Lords spirituall as well as Lords temporall and that the best times and ages of the world
jurisdiction and a Court for determining of Ecclesiasticall affaires What then remaineth but that the Officers belonging to such Iudicatures make uprightnesse their ayme that thereby all just cause of scandall may bee taken away from these their lawfull Courts For when they have done their best either ignorance or malice or both will be readie enough to traduce them and therefore so much the more are they like to be exclaimed against when indirect courses are plaine and manifest But herein care must be had that the scandall of injustice be not layd upon such as are free enough from it If some base minded under Officers abuse their places it is no good argument to prove that therefore Bishops are maintainers of unjust practises For we know for certaine the Church like a carefull Mother hath provided Laws to suppresse such abuses as she feared might be fostered in these her Courts Witnesse those many Canons concerning the jurisdiction of Arch bishops See the Canons of out Church Bishops and Archdeacons yea concerning Iudges Proctors Registers and Apparatours As in Canon the 92. that none bee cited into divers Courts for Probate of the same Will And in Canon 115 that Ministers and Churchwardens bee not sued for presenting And in the 116 and 117 Canons that Churchwardens bee not troubled for not presenting oftner then twice a yeare excepting at Visitations or that the custome of the Dioces be otherwise And in Canon the 121 that none be cited into severall Courts for one and the same crime but that the officers cerrifie each to other what hath beene presented to them And in Canon the 123 that no act be sped but in open Court And in Can. 127. 128. that Iudges and Surrogates be well qualified And in Canon the 129 that no Proctors retaine causes unlawfully And in Canon the 133 that Proctors be not clamorous in Courts And in Canon the 134 that Registers abuse not their places And in Canon the 135 that no Ecclesiasticall officer exact more than his ordinary fees And in Can. 136 that a Table of their said feees be set up in open view in Courts and Registers And in Canon the 138 that Apparitours shall not take upon them the office of Promoters or Informers for the Court. All which had beene never done if the Prelates had intended the upholding of wrong and robbery for by these Constitutions it well appeareth that they are no wayes bent to countenance the courses of unjust proceedings but to punish and subdue all such offenders And therefore to be as many I thinke are too ready to blame Bishops for maintainers of pouling Courts is as one truly speakes a matter in a slanderer to be punished and not a fault in a Bishop to be blamed In a word such is the generall loosenesse of these miserable times This was proved true a long while since as may be seen in an old ancient booke called an Admonition to the people of England printed anno Dom 1589. that all kinde of justice among too many is growne into hatred and contempt and men disdaine to bee ruled by it And therefore when they are called convented and punished for such things wherein they have offended or be bridled from that they would do disorderly they grudge at it their stomackes rise against it and thinke all that is done to be unlawfull although it be never so just And because they are not able otherwise to be revenged they cry out that they be cruell and pouling Courts But as I said before in advice to officers Let uprightnesse be their ayme so now to offenders in the words of God by his holy Prophet Esay 5.18.20 21. Woe be to them that draw on iniquity with cords of vanity and sin as it were with a cartrope that call good evil evil good that put light for darknes and darknes in the stead of light that thereby they may the better nouzle themselves in feigned colours and imagined excuses although in so doing they do but like unto that wicked generation Who curse their Father and doe not blesse their Mother I should now come to the next particular were it not that stil I find another thing which the factious first and others next distaste and sleight too much And that 's the celebration of such holy dayes as they who live within the pale of our Church are urg'd to keepe But let mee tell them that in this they also go astray For though some sticke not to affirme that it is a * This they affirme because the Commandement saith Six da●es 〈◊〉 on shalt labour breach of the fourth Commandement and so a sinne to make more Holy Dayes than one in seven yet shall they never be able to prove why it should be a sinne rather now than heretofore For shall the Iewes be no transgressors of the Law though they have more daies than their weekly Sabbath and must the Christian offend in consecrating dayes beside the Sunday Yes say some for they were led thereunto by God's expresse command For some I grant they were but for other some againe they were appointed no otherwise than their Church ordained Ester 9.21 For did they not every yeare solemnize and keepe holy the fourteenth and fifteenth day of the moneth Adar in remembrance of their great delivery from the treason of Haman 1 Mac. 4.59 And had they not likewise their yearly feast of Dedication Ioh. 10.22.23 for the observation of which there was no precept and yet Christ himselfe refused not to observe it with them 'T is sure they had And therefore to say Sixe dayes thou shalt labour and not let to keepe holy any other day than one is an idle cavil and scarce worth the answering Howbeit for thy further satisfaction take this also with thee that God who might challenge all our time for his worke doth there shew that he is willing to remit * Which part is ordinarily six dayes though not alwayes as the Iewes themselves do beare us witnesse part of his right for thine owne workes yet so as he doth not restraine thee from doing publike service to him on any of those dayes which the Church shall appoint for except there be superstitious ends aymed at on the dayes set apart this which I say must needs be granted But say some againe though we yeeld to the observing of such weekly dayes as are either in honour of the Saviour of the world for the diverting of some judgment or for the testification of thankes for some great benefit yet why should the Church presse upon us the keeping of Saints dayes too as well as these Why because the righteous shall be had in everlasting remembrance as the Psalmist speaketh Psal 112.6 and the memory of the just be blessed Prov. 10.8 as the sonne of the Psalmist hath expressed Or because of that knot of fellowship which is betweene the dead Saints and the living this being that Communion