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unity_n of_o the_o church_n a_o motive_n to_o believe_v in_o christ._n the_o discord_n bristol_n of_o protestant_n the_o inconstancy_n of_o protestant_n our_o saviour_n christ_n pray_v that_o his_o disciple_n may_v be_v fulke_n one_o in_o god_n &_o he_o their_o redeemer_n and_o this_o unitye_n all_o protestant_n retain_v notwithstanding_o diversity_n of_o opinion_n in_o one_o article_n &_o any_o contention_n about_o ceremony_n even_o as_o the_o apostle_n be_v one_o in_o one_o god_n and_o christ_n although_o there_o be_v variance_n about_o circumcision_n &_o ceremony_n cyprian_a &_o cornelius_n the_o roman_n church_n &_o the_o church_n of_o carthage_n be_v at_o unitye_n in_o christ_n although_o the_o one_o of_o they_o err_v in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n so_o be_v hierome_n &_o augustine_n although_o they_o mayneteyn_v contrary_a opinion_n about_o peter_n dissemble_v &_o translation_n of_o the_o scripture_n from_o this_o very_o i_o except_v such_o schiâ—inaties_n as_o delight_v 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their_o judgement_n to_o god_n but_o general_o we_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o scripture_n that_o such_o as_o hold_v the_o only_a foundation_n which_o be_v jesus_n christ_n in_o a_o true_a faith_n shall_v be_v save_v although_o they_o build_v upon_o this_o foundation_n chaff_n straw_n wood_n etc._n etc._n 1._o cor._n 3._o and_o therefore_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o s._n augustine_n chrysostom_n hierom_n gregory_n bernard_n &_o many_o thousand_o even_o in_o the_o time_n of_o great_a blindness_n hold_v the_o same_o only_a foundation_n may_v be_v save_v notwithstanding_o the_o chaff_n and_o stubble_n of_o a_o few_o error_n which_o the_o former_a sort_n do_v hold_v or_o a_o number_n of_o error_n and_o superstition_n wherewith_o the_o late_a sort_n be_v defile_v as_o for_o frances_n and_o dominike_n such_o late_a leader_n of_o the_o locust_n we_o rather_o think_v they_o be_v return_v into_o the_o bottomless_a pit_n from_o whence_o they_o come_v then_o that_o they_o be_v saint_n in_o heaven_n but_o if_o we_o excuse_v the_o rest_n by_o ignorance_n bristol_n ask_v why_o we_o condemn_v not_o augustine_n which_o be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o our_o doctrine_n because_o he_o condemn_v it_o for_o most_o wicked_a heresy_n in_o aerius_n jovinian_a and_o vigilantius_n who_o although_o they_o be_v our_o father_n he_o say_v we_o be_v ashamed_a to_o bless_v their_o memory_n first_o concern_v jovinian_a although_o he_o hold_v a_o heresy_n in_o not_o prefer_v virginity_n before_o marriage_n in_o some_o respect_n yet_o have_v we_o nothing_o to_o do_v with_o he_o for_o we_o hold_v not_o that_o opinion_n which_o if_o we_o do_v yet_o be_v it_o no_o damnable_a heresy_n touch_v aerius_n he_o be_v condemn_v of_o augustine_n for_o a_o arrian_n his_o opinion_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a although_o it_o be_v not_o like_v of_o augustine_n yet_o do_v he_o in_o no_o place_n condemn_v it_o for_o most_o wicked_a heresy_n as_o bristol_n call_v it_o but_o that_o he_o do_v allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o 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continence_n &_o so_o renounce_v the_o world_n that_o they_o possess_v nothing_o in_o proper_a as_o testify_v epiphanius_n and_o augustine_n and_o philaster_n affirm_v that_o they_o absteyn_v also_o from_o cate_v of_o flesh_n so_o that_o all_o thing_n consider_v aerius_n maintain_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o papist_n as_o much_o as_o of_o the_o protestant_n that_o our_o preacher_n in_o pulpit_n praise_n god_n for_o the_o founder_n of_o college_n and_o school_n of_o learning_n by_o name_n what_o make_v this_o for_o allowance_n of_o their_o religion_n god_n be_v to_o be_v praise_v for_o such_o benefit_n as_o he_o have_v bestow_v upon_o his_o church_n or_o any_o member_n thereof_o even_o by_o turk_n and_o heathen_a man_n wherefore_o this_o be_v a_o very_a slow_a motive_n unto_o popery_n for_o whether_o the_o founder_n be_v good_a or_o evil_a man_n and_o what_o intent_n soever_o they_o have_v their_o benefit_n be_v now_o use_v to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n &_o therefore_o god_n for_o 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