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A friendly conference between the suffering saints for conscience-sake, the Jacobites, met together at the --- Tavern particularly R.L., R.F. and A.S., my Lord Bp. of Salisbury (promised to be so by K. James when he returns) and other precious ones there assembled at least to consult about and read prayers for the dethroning of the best of kings and restoration of the worst : with a postscript concerning a late declaration of Mr. Lobb and others against Crispionism.
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Trepidantium Malleus.
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A Friendly Conference Between the Suffering Saints for Conscience-sake the JACOBITES Met together at the Tavern Particularly R. L. R. F. and A. S. my Lord Bp of Salisbury promised to be so by K. James when he returns and other precious Ones there assembled at least to consult about and read Prayers for the dethroning the best of Kings and restoration of the worst With a Postscript concerning a late Declaration of Mr. Lobb and others against Crispianism Difficile est Satyram non scribere Juv. LONDON Printed and are to be sold by A. Baldwin in Warwick-lane 1699. TO THE READER IF it be askt why I argue not more against censur'd Antiscripturism and Non-resistance I have done the one at large in my Quakers Impostors or Apostates The other as largely in my Vindiciae Anti-Baxterianae If you ask why I write or Hint the Oaths or Curses of such vile Persons To represent them in their Colours others do so Mr. Dent in his Plain Man's Path Mr. Baxter in his Poor Man's Family Book Bring thine Antidote if in any danger If thou seest what Beast drunkenness and filthy talking makes some Jacobites and Blasphemy and Cursing make others or if thou wilt the same as Devils incarnate thou mayest loath the Sins the more in others and bless thy Creator Redeemer and Sanctifier who hath made thee to differ A Friendly Conference between the suffering Saints for Conscience-sake the Jacobites particularly R. L. R. F. A. S. Bishop of Salisbury and the rest of the suffering Brethren met at R. L. HOW fare your bodies Brethren for I know you are men of sense and think not of Souls as essential parts of you For my part I am Heart sick R. F. Before Jove I am far from being Heart-whole Saepius quam Euripus recurrit dolor A. S. This is a catching Distemper among us now I think not one of the Company is well there Mr. H. Let us take up the Bible then or the best of Books next to it the Common-Prayer Book and read something to comfort us R. L. Bible bibble babble I never thought that Book good for any thing but to make Folk humoursome And for the Common-Prayer Book the best cheating Book that was I cannot endure it since the Usurper's Name got into it and jostled out the King 's Pray call for a Pack of Cards and a chearful Cup and then by G I am for you R. F. I say the same and would swear by G too were I sure there were any and would curse the Prince of Orange and all his Adherents to the Devil were I sure there was any such Creature A. S. Fie Gentlemen fie talk not so profanely and atheistically We are Fellow-sufferers for Conscience-sake and if at any time we be sober it should be now R. L. Is Saul also among the Prophets What are you become a Saint and my Brother in Christ Come Sir every Man as be likes If you care not for Cups or Cards we will call for a Woman for you None but Fools talk of Conscience the old stale Topick of Rebellion It is a Bedlam thing and the ingenious P. laught it away with an As the Fool thinketh so the Bell clinketh A. S. What makes you to talk thus to me of a Woman R. L. We have Man been told long since That tho you pretended to leave the N. C. in P. for refusing the Oath of Allegiance to the Spark as we call'd him in the last intended Assassination you left it for a base Child That after an Anabaptist's Wife desir'd you to baptize her Child unknown to her Husband you baptiz'd the Child and lay with the Mother a great Scandal to the Cause of Pedobaptism That you when the Spark was expected to land look'd out for a fair Wind and asked Mr. W. and others Is there any hope the Prince will land if he do not we are all undone We thank your natural Child for your company So that they that knew you there say you are a great R A. S. In plain terms you are no little one thus to reflect Mr. H. In plainer terms both may be true and between our selves is so But what if Brother S. had a Bastard the great Apostle of the Scottish Presbyterians had a Bastard as I printed in describing that Tribe Mr. Yes printed it but could never prove it to my knowledg when question'd for it unless it were before his Conversion when a Member of our Church They grant a Convert-maker in their Church might first be a Bastard-maker in ours You could not prove this any more than another Story That the most learned Presbyterians in London acknowledged Duke Lauderdale to be a pious Man When no sober Churchman or prosane either could so believe disown'd by a Parliament for corrupting his King and other Villanies As you have worded the Story of Rutherford it is false If he had a slip before he was accounted so learned pious and angelical among them tho they cannot find he ever had any was it fair to twit St. Austin with his base Child before his Conversion whom in his Confessions he calls Adeodorus A. S. Why reflect you on King Charles the Second of blessed Memory If he kept Women you know who preach'd before him on that Text Was not Solomon beloved of his God yet Women drew away his Heart He made it clear That this is no parting Sin between God and Man especially a King Tho I confess Solomon never kept another Man's Wife never a Castlemain in the company of his Concubines Mr. H. I heard the Story but like it not for one Gentleman as he then came out of Church said There was nothing in Religion R. F. He said never the worse if you like it not I say It was the wisest word ever that Man said in his life I was inclinable to think so when I canted and ton'd and whin'd among the Phanaticks but I am much more confirmed since I turn'd Jacobite and came among you Mr. H. I say this was scandalous as was what that Bishop said to one of the King's Whores weeping for a dead Child Madam be not too much troubled God can soon send you another I tell you these are great Sins and it is a Duty not to justify them R. L. By Hercules What a Cant is here about Sin and Duty It is enough to give a man a stool to hear such Twit-twats Come for an Huzza or the old Trinity we gloried in twenty Years since of Wit Wine and Women R. F. Yes by my Faith you speak now to purpose R. L. You have broke the Order already to talk of Faith R. F. Pish that is but Vulgariter as the Atheist in France when burnt as such said when he cry'd feeling the Flames O God Doth any man think that any Bishop of ours had so little wit to be a John the Baptist at the Court to lose his Head If he had I would have taken it up as a Calves head Mr. H.
K. James owed his Crown to Coleman's Halter POSTSCRIPT WHereas I am in a scandalous Libel suspected to be the Author of the Declaration of the Congregational Divines in and about the City of London against Antinomianism and the preaching of ignorant scandalous Persons I do declare 1. That when I read this Charge against me I had not then read the Declaration 2. This Charge made me soon to do it and I find it true what the Bishop of Worcester and all Orthodox Men of what Perswasion soever say it is a sound and valuable Book God render a thousand sold into their Bosoms who oblig'd the World with so excellent a Confession I say with Mr. Lobb and others almost all the censur'd Errors there are in Dr. Crisp's Book a much worse Book than the Racovian Catechism I cannot but think as well of Sosinus as of Crisp only where it is here said Believers are not to mouvn for Sin confess or beg pardon I acknowledg Dr. Crisp tho he write Blasphemously and Atheistically against mourning for Sin yet not a word against Confession or begging Pardon and the reason may easily be conjectur'd which I gave in my three contending Brethren He could not read Common-prayer without Confession or begging Pardon This old nasty Ceremony monger never intended to turn out for this or to leave the good sat Parsonage at Brinksworth It is however well known some of his Followers are against confession of Sins or begging Pardon who are no Common prayer men 3. Since this Censure of me the Congregational Diviues I thank them have reprinted the Book wherein they declare That all except two or three men to whom they thought it not fit to communicate the matter approv'd of it Was not the Draper one Dr. Chauncy himself to his immortal honour was one of the Approvers this is certified by good Mr. Griffith Mr. Lobb Mr. Mead Mr. Taylor Mr. Nisbet 4. It is believed by some Antinomians as well as others that this Libeller whose Name nor Habitation can I know did not or could not believe I was the Author For 1. Mr. Lobb Mr. Nisbet and others to all Persons declar'd it to be theirs Could not the Slanderer have gone sent or written to them to know whether they disown'd it 2. I would have been not only a wicked Villain but a most impolitick one too who in my Apology for Congregational Divines against the Charge of Crispianism or Antinomianism The countenancing the preaching of incompetent Tradesmen wrote my self a Presbyterian if after all I should write my self an Independent and that in the name of the whole Body of such Ministers here when I might so easily be confuted But see the disingenuity of this skulking Scribler to render me odious he says I wrote against the Reverend Mr. Baxter When many of this Tribe caressed me about that Book the greatest disparagement to it and say which God forbid ever I should They believe he is not in Heaven And I declare undesir'd by any Man I was once thoughtful to recal the Book and give this as the only reason inducing me to it the wicked use these Men made of it Now to blacken me Mr. Baxter shall be a worthy pious Divine which I never denied but these Men do I never said Thare was never any Cause of God going in Church or State but Mr. Baxter would oppose it Nor there was no Sin but he had semething to say for it c. This is ten thousand times worse than for me to cite Mr. Crandon That he would if desir'd prove that not one Flower in his Aphorisms of Justification was his own but all stoln out of Popish Authors Mr. Bagshaw indeed says in his Epistle to him from his Poison You grant I am upright in the main I cannot grant so of you This was never any Language of mine both may be in Heaven for ought I know which way Mr. Baxter might get there I can imagine But for George Fox Muggleton and Dr. Crisp three unlearned Impostors I cannot so imagine if I could I would never question Arius Socinus Bellarmine or Pope Innocent XIV the Protestant Pope I have heard Mr. Baxter one day asking Mr. T.R. what Books he read He answer'd I read this day that an old Woman told St. Austin that if he had begotten as many Children as he had written Books he had done excellent service to the Commonwealth which made the old Gentleman grumble to purpose I am glad for Mr. Gouge that he is one of the Approvers of this Congregational Declaration and as I hear hath given away several of the Books This I have to say in behalf of the London Baxterians that they like Men and Christians rejoice that their Congregational Brethren have at last quitted themselves like Men Would they had done it sooner Now whatever foul Language this Libeller gives me returns on these Divines whose excellent profound Book he makes contemptible as if done by a man of a distemper'd Brain Are the now known Authors such Can no ingenious Discourse come out without a Name but Mr. Trepidantium Malleus as he calls me must be suspected presently to be the Author I never thought the Draper to be the Accuser I never believ'd he could print so much Grammar or Sense tho we are told We feel not what he hath felt No we are honester Men. Heaven forbid we should for it would put a modest Man to a blush to relate Whether the unworthy Branch of Dr. Crisp were the Author I doubt No Lie is too great for him to print that said Mr. Baxter died a Crispian Are the Pinners-Hall Lectures theirs now Was my Apology for them a Mistake Do not these now justify me as I once apologized for them God make him go weeping to his Grave for printing his Father's Book which will be the damnation of thousands of Souls I am now clear'd or else no man ever was in any Cause whatever tho I confess I much doubt whether Mr. T. who dispos'd of so many of that vile Book Honey out of the Rock Christ subscrib'd bona fide My Defamer censures the Authors for going to the Philistins Forge because they gravely cited Orthodox Dr. South and yet to blacken me could censure me for writing against the Reverend Mr. Baxter accounted by this Company a verier Philistin than Dr. South This is like censuring the Book because the Authors Names are not there when neither his nor Printer's can be found or heard of An Antinomian lately came from hearing one preach Obedience as the way and particularly Repentance call'd so a thousand times in Scripture said Drunkenness is as much the way as Repentance before me and others As for those words in a late Mercury there is come out an Answer to the Rebuke by that Learned Critick Y g of Plymouth in which is neither Wit nor Sense but a Jacobitish Cant c. The Writer was my Brother not I about Physick and Astrology not Divinity I wish him and my Learned Friend Dr. Salmon could better agree or more friendly diffent May I be so hold to direct Dr. Salmon my Brother or others to give them one Prescription how to make their Costive Patients soluble I pray them not to be displeas'd Get Dr. Crisp's Picture when his first Books come out and let them look on it one quarter of an hour or less for I declare it is able to give a man a Stool to see it as it was done truly by Mr. L. not falfly by his unworthy Branch Could any Man imagine I wrote a Jacobite Cant I cannot help it if he did Is he a crack brain'd Man as there call'd If he be some unusual Distemper hath lately seiz'd him I pray the Adorers of this Family to consider how many Heylin in particular Cosmog are forced to confess the Stuarts were a spurious Brood ab origine The Father of the first was a Great Man and Steward in Scotland Therefore his base Child bore the Name of his Father's Office a thing common among Bastards end Bastard-makers Doth Bishop Spotswood in his History of the Church of Scotland say much less than that King James the 6th of Scotland and 1st of England was the Illegitimate Son of David Reese the Queen's Musician Did not the Earl of Lenox the Queen's Husband so believe when he slew David when sitting by the side of the Queen then big with Child of King James Hence it was he when a Man could never endure the sight of a Sword no not in knighting any One. From this invincible Timidity Flatterers gave him the Motto Beati Pacifici For the Old Rowly that filthy Stallion he had his Charles Nelson c. the Son of Charles and Nel. The now ejected King the Duke of Berwick c. Bless God that hath rooted out these and given us a King whose Life is a compendium of the best Morals and Politicks too As for the old Vinegar Bottle his pretended Zeal for Mr. Baxter and the Great K. is but Covetousness the Govering is too thin God forgive him for belying me A Country Tutor and Mr. Short of this City that Excellent Philosopher and Philosopher-maker too to my knowledg He is the basest Adversary I ever had who like an Owl fears the Light His Idol must fall that play'd the madman at Salters-Hall with Mr. S. and Mr. P. two ingenious Divines a Story too shameful to relate FINIS