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A18922 Henoch Clapham his demaundes and answeres touching the pestilence methodically handled, as his time and meanes could permit. Clapham, Henoch.; Re., Pere. 1604 (1604) STC 5343; ESTC S108006 28,520 38

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to giue in his answer Hearing nothing more of that of 7. weekes I on the day of Pentecost insuing complayned to his Highnes againe Thereto Sir Iulius Caesar in his Maiesties name subscribeth thus The Kings Maiesty hath eftsoones referred this petitiō to the Lord Bishop of London who is required by his Highnes calling other of the Hycommission vnto him withall convenient expedition and according to the Law to proceede to iudgement either with or against the partie as his cause shall deserue that his Highnes may not further bee importuned herein So farre the Kings commaund To the Bishop I sent it but hearing nothing from him a fortnight after I sent to the King againe About a week after I was convented And after much talke to no purpose the Bishop concluded thus you may doe this at least the Doctrines being put downe as supposed to be taught of you you may subscribe herein I was truely or not truly vnderstood I answered let that be done and I shall doe what I ought Doctor Stanhope then said Maister Deanes of Westminster Pawles are appointed to that who at their convenient leasure will send for you So the Court broke vp This was the eleventh of Iuly last and then the first time also of excepting at the doctrine of Faithes apprehending deliverance from the plague taught in the foresaid Epistle Being thus left to the two Deanes I writt to them sundry times for speedy proceeding One of them sent my messenger to the other backward and forward At the Monethes end Doctor Androes sends me word that he had put the matter from him And so he never sent for me according to the Courtes Depute Passing by inconvenient repeates about three weekes after I was sent for to the Registers office Coming thither his man lets me see Doctor Androes his moneths worke And what was it A flat recantation and nothing answerable to that which the Court in myne hearing appointed as afore So much I signified to the Bishop as also to the Doctor But other answer since I could haue none but this put in bondes so to protest When and Where we shall appoint and so departe prison So my cause at the penning hereof standeth The severall pointes for the which I am thus handled in the sequent Discourse I do treat of by way of Quere and Response that is by way of Question and Answere Wherein my cause is vnsound reiect wherein Orthodoxall accept and so farre be Gods instrument for my Good Art thou a Magistrate Then hearken what Salomon saith Deliver them that are drawen to death and wilt thou not preserue them that are ledd to be slaine If thou say Behold we knew not of it he that Pondereth the heartes doth he not vnderstand it And he that keepeth thy Soule knoweth hee it not Will not he also recompence every man according to his workes Thus let the Magistrate take heede how he pleades ignorance and wincketh at the fall of the innocent For such a looking through the fingers may fill the earth with innocent blood till it roare again for heavens iudgement And so not only such but also the whole lande shall fare the worse for iniustice Art thou a Minister Then heare what Moses and Salomon say And if any haue sinned namely by hearing the voyce of an othe and he can be a witnesse whither he hath seene or knowen of it he do not vtter it he shall beare his iniquitie Open thy mouth for the dombe in the cause of all the children of destruction Some of you are reported to say that Clapham hath a good cause but it is to be doubted if so he haue sufficient learning to defend it That I haue I haue God make me faithfull in that I haue But thou that art able to giue in thy Testimonie art bound also to do it If thou wilt not be a Procter for Christ in his members one of the two Theeues executed with lesus shall turne Preacher giue in s●fficient evidence to thy condemnation To the People Also Brethren I beseech you for our Lorde Iesus sake and for the loue of the Spirit that ye would striue with me by prayers vnto the Lord for me that I may be deliuered from the disobedient and that my seruice which I haue yet to do may be accepted of the Sanctified that I may come forth to his people with ioy by the will of God and may with you be refreshed Thus the God of peace be with you all Amen Yours Henoch Clapham Qu. Is the Plague infectious CHAP. I. Answer EVery Answer is to be made either by Affirming or Denying or Distinguishing or by Retorting Affirme it to be or not to be I cannot for reason ensuing For retorting an answer I could by vrging a Quere of like nature thus Is the crab restoritiue yea or no If answer be made tell me whither you speak of the fruit crab or Sea-crab and then I will satisfie you euen so I say tell me whither you speake of the Naturall Plague or the Supernaturall Plague and then I will say it is or it is not infectious The doubtfulnes then of the answer doth arise from the doubtfulnes of the question The question is doubtfull by reason of the word Plague for that it hath sundry significations For the better vnderstanding whereof let vs first examine the seuerall senses Plague is a word taken in the evill part and spoken of any harme inflicted vpon any Creature All diseases are termed plagues be they inflicted vpon mankinde or others So be Crosses in Common Wealthes Ch●rches Famelies So be som Windes and Weathers to Trees hearbes flowers c. And so Egypt had his ten sundry plagues But passing by all such inferiour sortes it is in this dispute taken for a speciall kinde of evill inflicted on mankinde The Divine Prophets Canonicall do terme it in Hebrue DEBER The divine Septuagint● do specially terme it in Greek Logos The Ancient Heathē Phisitians do terme it Loimos The Latines call it Pestis and Plaga whereof do come our English wordes Pest. Pestilence Plague but Plaga in playne English A Stripe or Blowe and therefore how many stripes so many Plagues Quere That plague which is so straingly mortall at this time throughout England is it infectious yea or no CHAP. II. Answer I vnderstand that plague or pest not to be single or of one kinde And so farre as I conceaue no learned Divine or Phisition is otherwise minded Thereof it is that sometimes they vrge textes of scripture for making the Angell Agent according to that speach of our King in his Parliamentall Oration who termes the Pest the viol●●lence of Gods devouring Angell and sometimes againe they discourse of Corrupt ayre in suing Constellations and fuming corruptions In which respecte naturall politicall Orders are vrged as for the other Fasting and Prayer In regard of the first one speaking of the Plague in Davids time writes thus This
Plague came not by any Caryer or Travailer or by any infected persons travayling from place to place infecting the people wher they came but it was sent sodainly from God as the revenger of sinne He afterwardes graunteth that such a plague is not at this day for vniuersalit●e and quick dispatch but yet still that God hath the same meane at his pleasure so to do And this writer must be remembred to haue beene authorized by the Sea of London and the same Booke applauded with the Preface of an ancient paynfull Preacher For the other sorte of Pest namely derived from some corruption of the Creature and not immediatly from the Angells stroke any learned skilfull in nature do graunt And for that take a Christian Physitians testimonie amongst vs. He having alleadged som reportes from histories touching naturall Contagion doth then conclude thus This may be sufficient to shew that the Plague is not always the immediat stroke of an Angell In this Pestilence generally scattred through the land there so falleth out some stroke Supernaturall some Naturall as I haue againe and againe taught in my Epistle so much traduced He that is against me in this is so not contrarie minded to me but to our King to our Divines and Phisitians also No marvayle then though another authorized Divine do say with the right learned Phisitian Fernelius Hisunt morbi c. These be the diseases whereof I haue said often they haue som secret cause And a litle after the first causes which breed the Pestilence are so vnknowen so invisible and so strange to all our senses that we are altogeather ignorant of them c. Necessarily so it foloweth that som thing in this plague be Supernaturall and somwhat Naturall as at large I haue delivered in my Epistle of the Pestilence without which observation one shal deliuer Quid for Quo as haue done my Articlers what is saide of the Supernaturall to vrge it as spoken of the Naturall Et è contra to the seducing of the Hearers Quere The stroke of the Angell immediatly inflicted is it infectious yea or no CHAP. III. Answ. FIrst let me heare what infection is A domestick Doctor signifying what person is infectious doeth write thus Very properly saith he is he reputed infectious that hath in himselfe an evil malignant venomous or vitious disposition which may be imparted and bestowed on another by Touch producing the Same and As Dangerous effect in him to whom it is cōmunicated as in him that first cōmmunicateth and spreadeth the infection So farre He. It being remembred that Infection properly vnderstood is not that which begetteth Another but the Same euill so Argumentate That stroke which the Angell inflicteth is Supernaturall and not within the compasse of Phisicall causes But Infection is Naturall and within the compasse of Phisicall causes Therefore the Angells stroke not infectious For the second proposition I leaue it till anone Meane time the first proposition would be cleared seeing the conclusion dependes primordially of it That the Angels stroke is Supernaturall it may appeare once in that He the Angell be a good or bad one for either may be so imployde he is a Spirit and this his Action done by an immediate spirituall power beyonde our reasons pitch Secondly we see the Angell in Aegpit as also in Iudea Israell nor els where do we ever heare the contrary to be imploide in smyting house after house and City after City even all along the Coastes from Dan to Beersheba and not smyting that which might smyte another which otherwise if but for instruction sake would somtyme haue bene done and mentioned And this no doubt caused one to write as afore in the former chapter that The Pest in Davids tyme came not by any infectious person Thirdly by the Septuagintaes version of the word DEBER it may be collected to haue bene then the Church of Israels iudgement The word DEBER in proper English The Pestilence they turne by the Greeke word Logos in English The word as if in the text it were not DEBER but DABAR this indeed signifying a word and the very terme that Saint Iohn in his first chapter doth giue vnto the Son of God by whom as by a word the Creature had his beginning and beeing So that the 91. Psal. and third verse they thus read He shall deliuer thee from the word not fro the Pestilence And why because that Pest as the comon Creature at first had the beginning and beeing solely by the word of God and this plague for contemning the blessed Covenaunt sealed vp in him that is Logos the Word Afterwardes in the sixt verse of the same Psalme the Hebrue-Greekes read thou shalt not be affraide Apò toû pragmatos of the thing in steed of pestilence Why Because it was such a RHEMA such a PRAGMA such a Thing as they knew not properly how to terme it in the Greeke language They well vnderstood that the Heathen-Greekes did terme it LOIMOS and in respect of the popular spreading Epidemia wherefore then in their translations should they so avoyde these wordes and rather choose such a terme as should drive the Heathen to a Non-plus No reason I can render but that thereby they finely checked the Gentiles as Ignorant of that plagues cause and therfore must be glad leaving their great Naturians to come vnto the written woord of God for better learning And in so doing they shall finde that DEBER is indeed DABAR which not only signifieth a Word but also a Thing Yea a miraculous Thing as in Genes 18. where Sarah thinking the woord of promise impossible the Angel thus checkes her shall any DABAR be heard to the Lord where that miraculous thing was to be effected by the power of the word DABAR signifying both Now if the Pest was such a word or such a thing effected by a word then it is to bee nombred amongest Supernaturalls and so not infectious seeing the partie so smitten could not by all the corruption in his nature sende out such a Word such a Thing begetting the same effect in another for so which I thinke were a petie blasphemie in steed of Iehovahs Angell mans beastly corruption should equalize the Angell take the worke out of his handes as being Iehouahs messenger herein for Angell is the Greeke word and Messenger the English which I haue not read of at least not observed True it is that the Angells blowe rayseth vp mudde in mans nature giving it an head to the heart and therefore in Psalme 91. 3. with Logos they ioyne Tarachodes turned of vs noysome but in proprietie Bemudding as if by such a stroke the mudde of our vncleane poole were stirred vp to the poysoning of all the blood and powers even as è contra the Angells Mooving of Bethesda brought sanitie to the diseased And true it is also that that corruption may offend and hurt nature in others but yet not