the Tower for three Weeks May it please you c. Here I observe that the Accusation of a private person ought to be legal and certain as that was This Accusation consists of two parts The unjust taking of 17 Nobles c. from the Merchant of Pruse and the Imprisonment of the Petitioner by false suggestion to the King Upon hearing of the Matter the Lords Ordered That as for the Complaint tovching the 17 Nobles it should be sent to the Kings-Bench to be tried there but the Lords themselves determined the Imprisonment upon the false suggestion to the King and awarded Ellis to prison to pay Fine and Ransom to the King and Dammages to the Accusers The Lords received the latter part of this Complaint for two Causes The one for the false Suggestion to the King limited by the Statute of 31 E. 3. to be punished by the Chancellor L. Treasurer and the Councel if he be untrue all which were present in the Parliament The other For a Scruple which might arise out of the Words of the Statute which provides for false Suggestions only to the King himself Whereas Ellis his false Suggestion was by a Letter written to one of the Kings Servants which being shewed to the King his Majesty caused the Petitioner to be imprisoned And this the Lords expounded to be in Ellis a Suggestion unto the King himself And had this Point been truly triable at the Common Law the Lords had referred it thither This is but my own Conceipt Anno 5 R. 2. Numb 4. Richard Clevedon Esquire by his Bill exhibited to the King in Parliament accuseth Sir William Cogan Knight Anno 5 R. 2. Numb 45. The Mayor Bayliffs and Commonalty of Cambridge were accused c. The next of this kind is a very slanderous Accusation of the Chancellor which I will briefly declare and the whole proceedings therein for that it differs in some points from the rest The Parliament of 7 R. 2. at Salisbury began the Friday after the Feast of St. Mark the Evangelist April 29. On the 24th-of May next John Cavendish Fishmonger complained in this Parliament First Before the Commons of England in that Assembly in presence of some Prelates and Temporal Lords and afterwards before all the Prelates and Temporal Lords in full Parliament In the beginning of this Complaint he desired the Lords for God's sake to grant sure and speedy protection for the safety of his Life and that he might have sufficient Surety of the Peace against those of whom he would complain and especially he demanded Surety of Monsieur Michael de la Poole Chancellor of England and accordingly the Chancellor did at the Commandment of the King find Sureties viz. Two Earls c. Then the Fishmonger rehearsed how that all the last Parliament which was held at Westminster at Allhallontide in the same year he did sue by his Bill to have restitution of certain Merchandizes of great value from Geo. Mansfield and three others which was lost upon the Seas by them at such time as they had undertaken the Safeguard of the Seas and of the Merchandizes passing and coming in the mean time against all Enemies except Royal Power The which was endorsed saith he and committed to the Chancery to discuss and determine the Matters therein comprized according to Law and Reason Whereupon he dealt with one John Otrey a Clerk and Houshold-Servant to the said Chancellor for his Master's Favour and Furtherance in the Business The Clerk after he had viewed a Copy of the Bill and considered of the Business promised that for Forty Pounds to his Lord's use and Four Pounds to his own use he should have speed That he gave his Bond for 44 l. to be paid at a Day to come and afterwards delivcred unto the said Otrey certain Herrings and Sturgeon to the value of 9 or 10 Marks to the use of the said Chancellor in part and three yards of Scarlet which cost him 32 s. unto Otrey for his own use in part of the said 4 l. Notwithstanding all which he found no Favour from the Chancellor in his Suit but was delaied and still is and cannot have Justice therefore That the said Otrey told him that he could have had more Money of his Adversaries to have been against him which made him suspect the worst But said he whether the Chancellor shall be reputed privy to this God knoweth judge you My Lords for the Chancellor hath paid him for his Herrings and other Fish and sent him his Bond cancelled but whether he did it out of Conscience or to avoid Slander and Reproach he knew not Judge you My Lords but he was not paid for his three yards of Scarlet Unto this the Chancellor made his Answer not presently but at another time for the Record saith He Answered first before the Prelates and Lords and afterwards before the Lords and Commons whereas the Commons were present when the Complaint was made it being in pleno Parliamento And in the Judges Award to whom this Matter was afterwards referred it is said to be coram Magnatibus Communitat ' in Parliamento So that the Answer was made some other way First He protested his Innocency touching the Delay of Justice and shewed how the Delay was through the Difficulty of the Cause and vouched the Justices and the Serjeants who had often heard the Pleadings Touching the Bribery he swore by the Sacrament he had no knowledge thereof until upon Accompt with his Officers he found those Fishes not paid for and then he presently caused them to be paid for and the Bond cancelled and sent him He denied that his Clerk moved him in that Business all which he offered to prove in such manner as the King and the Lords should ordain and demanded Justice against the Fishmonger for the Slander Unto which the Fishmonger presently answered and said He did not accuse the Chancellor himself but his Clerk only The Lords examined the Fishmonger and the Clerk about the Bond and his Adversaries on their Allegiance whether they had given any thing or promised to give And finding tde Chancellor free from Bribery the Lords acquitted him of his Accusation aforesaid then at the Chancellor's Request the Fishmonger was committed until he found Sureties to appear de die in diem before the Lords and before any Judges who should be assigned The Lords committed the Clerk also and afterwards the Parliament growing to an end the Complaint was referred wholly to the Judges to hear and determine the same as well for the King as for the Parties Auxi avant come les Peres de Parliamento might have done if the Plaint had been fully treated in their presence and in the Parliament The Proceedings before the Judges were in a Schedule annexed to the Parliament-Roll and were thus A Commission was granted in Parliament unto Tressilian Chief Justice of the King's Bench and Bellknap Chief Justice of the Common Pleas to hear and determine
and Judges I have observed four manner of Accusations in Parliament 1. First by the Commons either by their Complaints or their Impeachments 2. Secondly by Information Ex. parte Dom. Regis 3. Thirdly by Complaint of private Persons 4. Fourthly by Appeal of some of the Lords in Parliament which was abolished p. Stat. 1. H. 4. c. 14. The Accusation of the Commons The manner of Accusation ought to be by the Commons alone and not by the Lords and them together for so Earls Prelates Barons and other Peers of the Land and Commons of the Realm did accuse Hugh de le Spencer 15 E. 2. and one of the Errors assigned for the Reversal was that the Lords had no Record before them of the Causes contained in their Award vis Rot. claus 15 E. 3. in the Parliament at York The Reasons may be because the Lords joyning in the Accusation with the Commons have declared their opinion of the Fact and there needs no further Tryal thereof Wherefore the Lords who are only Judges may neither accuse any to themselves nor joyn in the Accusations with others The complaint of the Commons is either by Petition or demand in general or by Impeachment in particular which is their Declaration against the party accused Precedents of their Complaints by Petition are Anno 21 E. 3. n. 38. The Commons complain of Extortion used by certain Merchants who were Farmers of the Kings Customs of Wools not naming the Parties for which they pray remedy and that the said Merchants may be put to their answer in this Parliament for such outrage and distress done to the people Which Petition is thus answered Let the Merchants be called into the Parliament Et oient lour Respons In codem Parl. n. 49. The Commons in another Petition complain That whereas diverse aids have been granted to the King for his Wars certain Merchants by confederacy between them and in manner of usury have bargained for the same to the Kings great loss and the grievance of the Commons c. His people pray these Particulars may be examined in presence of some by the said Commons deputed by good wise and Loyal men during the Parliament The King shall assign some of the Sages of his Council to hear and determine the things contained in this Article And if any of the Commons can inform the King for his profit of any of the Points herein contained let him put it in certain and he shall be heard to the end that Right and reason may be done And the Justices which shall be assigned to enquire of false Mony shall have power to enquire of the excess of such Ministers Though these complaints were general yet they pointed so directly to the Parties accused that John de Worsenham and Walter de Chairton did exhibit their Petitions also in their own defence desiring to come to their Answers What further proceedings were herein is not recorded The Commons were directed to impeach the Parties whom they accused If any of the Commons can inform c. Let him inform in certain and he shall be heard c. So that although the Commons accusation by complaint be general yet if the complaint be received and the Parties brought to answer the Commons may then impeach the said Parties viz. declare against them in special and then the Suit is theirs prout Anno 50 E. 3. against Lyons Ellis the Lord Latimer the Lord Nevile Peecher and others But if the Commons do only accuse by any way of complaint whatsoever and do not declare in special against the Party accused then the Suit is the Kings and the Party is to be arraigned or otherwise proceeded against by commandment Ex parte Dom. Regis prout Gomeniz Weston and Alice Peirce 1 R. 2. Anno 1 H. 4. The Commons pray the Lords Apellants in the 21 R. 2. may be put to their answer and so they were 10 Placit Coron of that Parl. n. 1. 2. 3. c. Anno 29 H. 6. The Commons pray that the Duke of Somerset the Dutchess of Suffolk the Bishop of London and many others may be abandoned from the Kings Presence during their lives and not come within twelve Miles of the Court for that the people spoke evil of them The King of his own meer motion is contented that all shall depart unless they be Lords and a few of them whom he may not spare from his presence and so to continue one year to see if any man can misprove them n. 6. inter Petitiones Communium For this was no Accusation for the Commons did not require they might be banished the Court. Anno 38 H. 6. The Commons among their Petitions accuse the Lord Stanley of sundry Particulars as to be of confederacy with the Duke of York and pray he may be committed to Prison The King will be advised Primo Jac. 26 Maii. The Commons by message accuse the Bishop of London for words spoken of them in the upper House Of the other kind of complaint by way of demand I have seen these two Precedents only Anno 1 R. 2. The Subsidy to be treated upon between the Lords and Commons as the manner then was The Commons delivered to the Lords a Schedule of their demands to be dispatched before Treaty should proceed Amongst which one was That all such who without Cause have lost or given up any Castle Town or Fortress to the dishonour of the King and damage of the People may be put to their Answer before the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament The Complaint herein is general They accuse such as had delivered up Castles c. if it be an Accusation But they name not the Parties yet two Delinquents hereupon who were Imprisoned in the Tower for delivery of Castels c. were put to their Answer viz. Gomeniz and Weston Anno 7 R. 2. The Commons grant a Subsidy according to the Tenor of a Schedule indented delivered in Parliament requiring it may be enrolled in the Parliament Roll verbatim in which Schedule is this Protestation That it is not their meaning to grant the said Subsidy without the Conditions ensuing Inprimis That the Clergy make the like Grant Item That the Bishop of Norwich and others be compelled to answer such Sums as they have received for Service by them undertaken and not performed c. Numb 13. Here the Commons name one of the Parties against whom they complain but they impeach him not and yet he and divers others were censured on that general demand Of the Impeachments of the Commons there be these Precedents Anno 50. E. 3. The Commons having granted the Subsidy they protested their good will and firm purpose to aid the King and said That it seemed to them for truth that if the King had always about him Loyal Subjects good Councellors and faithful Officers he had been rich in Treasure and needed not have charged his Commons with Subsidies
Thar seeing by Order of the Lords House May 4. the Earl of Bristols cause should be wholly retained in this House how that might now be done in respect of the Stat. of 35 H. 8. By which it was enacted That all Treasons committed beyond the Seas as this Earls were shall be tryed in the Kings Bench or before Commissioners Assigned by the King And an Order of the upper House cannot avoid the Statute Some were of opinion that the Earl was first to be indicted before Commissioners appointed by the King and that Indictment being returned into the Parliament to be tryed thereon by his Peers and vouched that Precedent of 2 H. 6. Of Sir John Mortimers Indictment returned into the Parliament But then the Cause cannot be wholly retained in the Parliament neither can it be inferred out of the Precedent of Sir John Mortimer that the Parliament can try any of Treason unless he be Indicted elsewhere For then the Parliament should not have so much power as hath the Kings Bench and other inferiour Courts wherein Capital Offences may be both enquired of and determined Neither can Sir John Mortimers Indictment thus returned be a leading Case for Tryal of Peers in Parliament for he was but a Commoner and therefore not to have been judged by the Lords unless they had first accused him and the Commons did so by Informing the Indictment to be true before the Lords gave Judgment upon him But their can be no Precedent shewn that a Peer of Parliament hath been tryed in Parliament on an Indictment taken elsewhere To resolve this Question two things are Considerable First The Statute of 35 H. 8. Whether the meaning thereof were to limit the Tryal of a Peer in the time of the Parliament for Forreign Treasons assigned taken in the Kings Bench or before Commissioners Assigned by the King and not elsewhere But I conceive the Statute hath no such meaning The Preamble saith it was doubted whether such Treasons might by the Common-Law of the Land be enquired into heard and determined within this Realm of England For a plain remedy Order and Declaration herein to be had and made Be it enacted c. So that if such Treasons have not been heretofore enquirable by the Common-Law then this Statute provides a Remedy and Order for the same hereafter But this Statute doth not abridg the Parliament of the power it had to enquire of and determine such Treasons in time of Parliament Whereof there are diverse Precedents viz. 1 R. 2. Weston and Gomeniz 50 E. 3. for William Latimer and John Nevil 7 R. 2. for the Bishop of Norwich ibid. Numb 17. for Cressingham and Shipworth ibid. Numb 24. for Sir William Elsingham Sir Thomas Trevet and Sir Henry de Ferrers all Tryed in Parliament for matters done beyond the Seas The second thing to be considered is The Order it self which I conceive to be of force notwithstanding the Statute of 35 H. 8. for that it is neither directly contrary to the Statute nor repugnant to the Common-Law otherwise the Act of one House alone cannot alter a former Statute made by consent of both Houses And this is to be remembred that the Proceeding against a Peer in Parliament is not necessary But thus it was used to be viz. The Peer accused to be brought before the Lords and Commons and then the Lord Steward to sit in the Chancellors place on the Woolsack and the Articles to be read against him by the Clark of the Crown and upon his Answer the Lords do determine of their Judgment which is afterwards pronounced by the same Lord Steward A Question might be whether the Commons have used to sit with their Speaker at these Tryals If they have then the Court of Requests or some such place may be provided for the purpose And thus that whole Cause might be retained in Parliament notwithstanding the Stat. of 35 H. 8. Thus much touching the Accusation ex parte Dom. Regis exhibited in a formal Accusation by the Kings Atturney The Duke of Clarence was arraigned in Parliament 18 E. 4. upon the like Information but the Precedent is not in the Parliament Rolls Therefore I omit it §. 4. The second kind of Accusation on the Kings behalf is ex mandato Dom. Regis upon the Roll and view of any proceedings elsewhere against the Delinquent or upon his Petition The Precedents thereof are these Anno 5 H. 4. The Earl of Northumberland was Tryed in Parliament ex mandato Dom. Regis upon his own Petition The Accusation and manner was thus The said Earl had raised Forces to have joyned with his Son Hotspur in Rebellion against the King Hotspur was slain in the Battel of Shrewsbury 21 July 4. H. 4. before the said Earl could joyn with him Whereupon he dismissed his Forces and retired to Worksworth Castle The King after the Battel came to York and sent for the said Earl and being come pardoned him for his life but abridged him of his Liberty The next Parliament was summoned the 20 of October to begin at Coventry the 3. of December And the Earl had his writ of Summons This Parliament was prorogued till the 23. of November by new Writs as the manner then was returnable Crastino Hillarii then following But the Earl had no new Summons thither But thither he comes a Petitioner Speed saith he was abridg'd of his liberty but the Record saith he came before the King and Lords And not that he was a Prisoner as Gomeniz and Weston 1 R. 2. Nor that he was caused to be brought as a Delinquent sent for as Alice Peirce 1 R. 2. But that he came before the King Lords and Commons of Parliament And then the Chancellor told him that upon Wednesday last past he had been before the King and Lords and Commons in the same Parliament and besought the King as he had done before at his coming before him at York That the King would do him grace for his misprisions against him in not keeping his Laws and Statutes as by one Petition delivered by him in Parliament written in English The tenor whereof followeth To my most dreadful and Soveraign Leige Lord. I your humble Subject beseech your Highness to have in remembrance my coming into your Gracious Presence at York of your free will by your goodly Letters The which Petition per Commandment du Roy was examined by the Justices to have their Counsel and Advice therein But the Lords by Protestation made claimed the Judgment to belong unto them only in such Cases c. And so the Lords Tryed him and acquited him of Treason and Felony but found him guilty of a Trespass only which the King pardoned Here no Information was exhibited against the said Earl yet the Kings Counsel opened his Offences to the Lords else how could they appear Anno 7 H. 4. The King commanded the Lords Temporal in Parliament to advise what manner of Process should be made
said Mortymer having notice thereof withdrew himself among the wild Irish where the same Serjeant nor any other Officer of the King 's durst come for fear of Death Wherefore and for that his Offences are notoriously known both to the Lords and them they prayed Judgment c. The King the Lords and the Procurators of the Clergy considered of the Request of the Commons with good deliberation and then the Lords with the said Procurators by the assent of the King and Commons did award that Proclamation should be made through England and Ireland commanding the said Tho. Mortymer to render himself in proper Person to the King in what place soever it shall be in England within three Months after the 23th Day of December next coming to be at his Answer and they farther awarded That if he came not c. that then he shall be judged Traytor and Convict of of all Treasons whereof he is accused and shall forfeit c. Then the King adjourned the Parliament and the Appellants to the 15th of Hilary next at Shrewsbury on which Day the said Appellants declared to the King That it was awarded that Proclamation should be made c. ut supra The Commons did the like And for that the said Tho. Mortymer came not they had judgment In 7 H. 4. The Lords agreed this Judgment against the E. of North. and the Lord Bardolph who were fled to the Rebels in Wales and Proclamation ut supra throughout England At the day prefixed they examined the Returns of the Proclamations in the presence of the Commons and so the Judgment was agreed on in their presence also and so it ought to be in all Cases of Life and Death And finding a small Error they awarded new Proclamations in London only and the Return thereof was again viewed and considered in the presence of the Commons and then on the next day Judgment was given Eodem Anno 21 R. 2. The Lords Appellants accused also the Duke of Gloucester of Treason and although they knew he was dead they prayed the King that he might be brought to his Answer Whereupon the King sent his Writ to the Council of Calice unto whose Custody he committed the said Duke to bring him into the Parliament to his Answer The Captain returned his Writ That the Duke is dead the which Writ and Return being read the said Appellants prayed Judgment and the Commons shewed That the Dukes Levying War against the King's Person is notoriously known to all the States of Parliament and therefore they desired Judgment also and had it And what may not the whole Parliament do when they joyn in one Yet notwithstanding the King fearing some Error as it seems the Lords Appellants besought the King that if there were any thing on Record be it by Confession or otherwise which concerned their Appeal that it might be openly known and shewn in full Parliament Whereupon by the King's Commandment was read a Commission granted unto William Richal Justice of the Common-Pleas and a Confession of the Duke of Gloucester made before him by vertue of the said Commission yea and Richal himself being commanded did justifie that the Duke did write the Confession with his own hand in his absence and afterwards read it unto him so careful they were to have something to supply an Answer I marvel that Richal was acquitted of his Proceedings herein at the next Parliament of 1 H. 4. where he affirmed that much of this Dukes Confession was altered after he had returned his Commission He well deserved to die in that he spake not of it Yet there is one Precedent directly contrary to all this viz. 11 R. 2. in that Appeal which happened on this occasion The aforenamed Duke of Gloucester and four other Lords went to the King and accused the Duke of Ireland the Archbishop of York Michael de la Poole and others of Treason the King adjourned them to the next Parliament promising them Justice there and in the mean time conveyed away the Parties accused and then by Proclamation Part 8. fol. 603. in the next Parliament 11 R. 2. the Articles of the Appeal being read the Duke and other Appellants offered to make proof thereof and required that the Parties appealed might be brought to their Answers and for default of Appearance demanded Judgment Whereupon the King did deliberate with the Lords and commanded the Justices and other Sages of the Law to give their best Counsel to the Lords how to proceed rightly in this Matter of Appeal who after Consultation therein had answered the Lords That they had seen and considered the Tenor of this Appeal which they said was in no point made and declared according to the Order of the Common or Civil Law But they gave no Answer touching the Demand of Judgment for default of Appearance whereupon the Lords deliberated and after by the Lords assent declared that this Cause committed by the Peers against the Person of the King and State of the Realm shall be determined in the Parliament only and by no other Law than by the Law and Course of the Parliament And that it belongs to the Lords only to judge in such Cases And with the assent of the King they did judge the same Appeal and the Process thereupon depending to be good according to the Law and Course of Parliament Then the Lords Appellants proceeded and desired to have the fault of Appearance recorded and Judgment given and so it was So likewise 21 R. 2. After the King had given the full power of Parliament to determine all Matters begun into the Hands of twelve Lords or six and six Commoners or any three He adjourned the Parliament from Westminster to Shrewsbury in 15 Hil. and there on March 22. It was shewed to the King how that Robert Possington was impeached at the Parliament at Westminster for being with the Duke of Gloucester in levy at Herring An. 11 R. 2. For which the said Duke was adjudged as Traytor and therefore they brought the King to ordain the like Judgment against Robert Possington though he was dead Whereupon our Lord the King by the assent of the Lords and Knights of Counties having power c. awarded the said Robert guilty c. And that he shall forfeit c. But these extraordinary Precedents cannot lead us into the ordinary course of Proceedings and I alledge them only so as their Errors may be avoided § To conclude it is the just and constant Course of Parliament to bring the Party accused to his Answer yea though he fly Justice yet to send out Proclamations into the Countries that he appear at a Day or else such and such Judgments shall be given against him I confess this Course was omitted in the Judgment against Mompesson 18 Jac. and haply it was not then thought upon the Judicature of Parliament being so long out of use and therefore that cannot be alledged as a leading Precedent And in
that Judgment 21 H. 6. against Sir Jo. Mortymer upon an Indictment of Escape out of Prison being committed upon suspition of Treason the said Mortymer's Answer is not recorded yet it is said he was brought before the Lords and the said Indictment read in his presence that he made an Answer unto it though not mentioned And this proves that the Party is to be brought to his Answer else Mortymer's presence had not been necessary Anno 7 R. 2. Numb 2. The Duke of Lancaster and Gloucester complained to the King That Sir Tho. Talbot with others conspired the Death of the said two Dukes and prayed the Parliament to judge thereof The Fact is judged High Treason and Writs sent to divers Sheriffs to apprehend him which Writs were retornable into the King's-Bench And upon Proclamation made in Westminster-Hall That upon the Sheriffs Return and the not-Appearance of the said Thomas he should be convicted of Treason and forfeit c. This was extraordinary in terrorem But what may not the whole Parliament do They may alter Law much easier than Form In the Answer is to be considered First In what Causes the Party is to answer as a Prisoner and in what as a Freeman Secondly When Councel shall be allowed him and when not Touching the First The Parliament hath guided their Proccedings therein secundum Legem terrae Judicium Parium According to the 2th Chapter of Magna Charta Nullus liber homo capietur vel imprisonetur c. nisi per legale judicium Parium suorum vel per legem Terrae And therefore in Causes Capital whether the Party accused be a Lord of the Parliament or a Commoner he is brought a Prisoner to his Answer secundum legem terrae prout 4 E. 3. Numb 1. c. The Lord Berkley accused by the King for Murder of E. 2. Anno 1 R. 1. Jo. Lo. Gomeniz and W. Weston Upon the Demand of the Commons for surrendring Forts beyond the Seas An. 4. R. 2. Sir Ra. Ferrers Knight was apprehended for suspition of Treason Anno 28 H. 6. Although the Lords refused to commit the Duke of Suffolk upon the Commons complaint of him of a common Fame of Treason yet when they accused him of particular Treason he was Committed and brought Prisoner to his Answer But in Cases of Misdemeanors it is otherwise then the Party accused whether Lord or Commoner answers as a Freeman The Lord within his Place the Commoner at the Bar and they are not committed till Judgment unless upon the Answer of a Commoner the Lords find cause to commit him till he find Sureties to attend c. lest he should fly prout Jo. Cavendish upon the Lord Chancellor's Demand of Justice against him for his false Accusation was Committed after his Answer until he put in Bail Anno 7 R. 2. And before Judgment And so Michael de la Poole the said Chancellor 10 R. 2. after his Answer and many Replies of the Commons was Committed and presently Bayled Anno 50 E. 3. William Lord Latymer and John Lord Nevill being impeached by the Commons answered in their Place so did the Bishop of Norwich and the Lord Chancellor 7 R. 2. And the said Lord Chancellor too 10 R. 2. answered in his Place though afterwards he was committed before Judgment upon Request of the Commons The Bishop of Bristol 1 Jac. and the Duke of Buck. 1 Car. 1. All these answered as Freemen in their Places their Offences not being Capital And the like Precedents there are of Commoners Anno 50 E. 3. Richard Lyons William Ellis and John Beecher did answer as Freemen being impeached by the Commons And whereas the Commons did that year also accuse Adam de Bury who was absent the Lords sent for him to come but he contemned their Authority and came not Then the Lords as it seemeth by the Record sent to apprehend him and he could not be found wherefore they awarded that all his Goods should be put in Arrest Ibid. N. 17. It is briefly entred Adam was sent unto to come and answer in Parliament he came not nor could be found Wherefore it was awarded c. Which is sufficient to prove A Commoner is not to be brought a Prisoner to his Answer for a Misdemeanor if he will appear 5 R. 2. The Mayor and Bayliffs by name and the Townsmen of Cambridge were complained of in Parliament for many Outrages against the Scholars there and the Lords sent one Writ to the Mayor and Bayliffs that then were and to the Commonalty to appear and answer and another Writ to the Mayor and Bayliffs that did the Outrage and they appeared in person and the Commonalty by their Attorney This was the Ancient Course Yet even in these Days viz. 15 R. 2. the Peer of Holland complained of a great Riot committed by Henry Tibb and divers others in the Parsonage-House of one Williams Whereupon a Sergeant at Arms by vertue of a Commission to him made brought up the said Tibb and one more only the principal doers therein before the Lords in Parliament who upon the Return of the Examination confessed nhe whole Matter and were committed But I suppose the Sergeant at Arms was sent for haply they would have obeyed no Writ and yet he was sent for two of the principal Offenders only At this Day if the Commons accuse a Commoner of Misdemeanors in such a state of Liberty or restraint as he is in when the Commons complain of him in such he is to answer prout 18 Jac. Sir Francis Michell and Sir John Bennet were both committed by the Commons before their complaint to the Lords and so they answered as Prisoners But that in a sort may be called Judicium Parium suorum 18 Jac. The Earl of Middlesex being then Lord Treasurer and accused of Misdemeanors only absented himself from the House His Charge was sent to him in writing and he answered in writing At the Day prefixed for his Trial he was summoned by the great Usher to appear He came without his Staff and kneeled until the Lord Keeper willed him to stand up There he protested That he ought not to answer in that Place and desired others might not be prejudiced thereby And I hope they will not The Earl did himself the first wrong by absenting himself from the House for he might have stayed there until Judgment unless when his own Cause came in agitation §. 2. Touching Councel In all Causes of Felony Treason c. Councel antiently was denied to the Party accused prout Anno 4. R. 2. Numb 21. Sir Ralph Ferrers was brought to the Parliament under the Guard of the Marshal of England and arraigned at the King's behalf for suspition of Treason who prayed to the King and to the Lords to have Councel in that Case Unto whom it was said That in all Matters wherein Councel ought to be granted by the Law of the Land the King or Lords would allow it And it was further
said unto the said Sir Ralph That forasmuch as the Matter stands so much upon Treason That by the Law he ought not to have Councel in his Case of no earthly Creature but obliged himself to answer at his peril This last Answer was given upon deliberation And 5 R. 2. Numb 44. Sir Richard Cogan Knight being accused by Richard Clevedon Esquire for extorting 200 l. from the Prior of St. John's of Jerusalem in a riotous manner required Councel which was denied him for that the Cause touched Treason 28 H. 6. The Duke of Suffolk being accused of Treason by the Commons desired Copies of the Articles but no Councel and he answered without Councel Primo Car. 1. In the Parliament begun Febr. 6. The King's Attorney exhibited Articles of Treason and misdemeanor against John Earl of Bristol and he had no Councel allowed him which was on this occasion Anno 21 Jac. The Earl of Middlesex was denied to answer by Councel touching Misdemeanors only that Precedent of 10 R. 2. of Michael de la Poole being mistaken as I conceive And afterwards the Lords considering the Inconveniences that might happen thereby did order that Councel should be allowed to all Delinquents in all Cases generally At the Voting of which Order the King and Prince were present and I did expect some Reply thereunto on the King's behalf and especially observed whether the Prince would any ways dislike of it either in Words or Countenance and he shewed none which made me verily believe that he had been acquainted therewith beforehand but he was not as I shall make it appear In this present Parliament upon reading the Articles of Treason and Misdemeanors against the said Earl 6 Maij and upon the Earl's Answer to them on the sudden The Journal is The Lords did answer that he should have Councel allowed him to plead his Cause But on Monday the 8th of May the King sent a Messenger to them That he not suing for a Default in Cases of Treason and Felony It is an ancient fundamental Law of this Kingdom and desired the Lords to proceed with that Caution that ancient fundamental Laws may receive no blemish nor prejudice On the 15th of May the Lords answered this Message That by an Order Dated May 24. 21 Jac. Anno 1624. Counsel was then present and they had allowed the Earl of Bristol Councel before the Message came May 14. His Majesty is content the Earl of Bristol to have Councel although his Majesty knew that by the Law he ought to have none but takes Exceptions to that Order of the 24th of May 1624. That it was occasioned by the Earl of Middlesex whose Cause was only Criminal which never till now extended to Cases Capital And that the Judges were neither advised with therein nor the King's Councel heard for his Majesty and therefore his Majesty is not satisfied about the general Order but will advise c. The Lords thereupon allowed him Councel to plead c. This Parliament of 6 Feb. 1 Car. 1. was dissolved before the Cause of the Earl of Bristol was heard and determined and that the said Earl was sued in the Star-Chamber for the very same Matter contained in the Articles against him in Parliament All which were but Misdemeanors And if it be lawful for me to speak freely I believe the Lords thought they were but Misdemeanors when they allowed him Councel in Parliament But in Cases of Misdemeanors only the Party accused was never denied Councel Anno 10 R. 2. The Commons accused Michael de la Poole of many Misdemeanors in open Parliament before the King Afterwards in the King's Absence the Chancellor said first to the Lords That he was Chancellor of England and for the time represented the King's Person in his absence and demanded whether he ought to answer in the Presence of the King since he was impeached of Acts done whilst he was Chancellor This received no Answer Secondly He said That he had appointed by the Advice of his Councel Monsieur Richard le Scroope his Brother-in-Law should have the words of his Answer to the first Impeachment Whereunto the Lords said That it was Honest for him to speak by his own mouth And thereupon he made Protestation that he might add to and take from that which should be honourable and profitable for him The which things unto him were granted And the said Chancellor declared as well by himself as by the mouth of the said L. Scroop That c. I note here that Councel was not denied him but that it was only told him It was honest for him to answer by his own mouth Anno 7 R. 2. The Bishop of Norwich for Misdemeanors in general Numb 15. was particularly charged by the Chancellor Numb 18. The Bishop said That albeit in this Case he ought to have Counsel yet making Protestation That at all times he might amend his Answer he would answer in person and so he did Numb 19. Anno 1 Car. 1. The Duke of Buckingh being accused by the Commons of Misdemeanors and Copies of the Impeachments and Answered by Councel in this manner viz. Die c. The Duke being in his Place and standing his Councel came to the Bar and then read the Dukes Answer as it was penned in writing Yet sometimes in Cases of Misdemeanors when the Party accused hath demanded the Copies of the Articles and Councel and Time to answer the Parliament hath compelled them to make a present Answer without Councel but this is rare and I have seen but one Precedent of it Anno 5. R. 2. Die Animarum Numb 45. The Mayor Bayliffs and Commonalty of Cambridge were accused by c. For that they in the late Tumults and Wars confederated with other Misdoers did break up the Treasury of the University and compelled the Chancellor and Schollars to release to the Mayor all their Liberties and all Actions c. In Num. 46 47. Several Writs were sent to command them to appear They appearing at the Day and answering to such Articles as were objected by the King's Councel and delivering in the two Releases which were cancell'd Numb 48. Then the Chancellor and Scholars exhibited divers Articles against them by way of Petition Upon the reading whereof it was demanded of the said Mayor and Burgesses what they would say why their Liberties should not be seized into the Kings hands as forfeited And they required Copies of the Articles and Councel and Respite to answer Numb 54 55. To the Copy of the Articles it was answered That inasmuch as they had heard them read it should suffice for by the Law they ought to have no Copy And touching Councel it was said That wherein Councel was to be had they should have it and therefore they were then to answer to no Crime nor Offence but only touching their Liberties Numb 56. After many dilatory Shifts the said Burgesses submitted themselves to the King's Mercy touching their Liberties only saving
to do this and confess it was contrary to the Law of the Land Secondly to preserve their own Right to Judge none but the Peers in Case of Life and Death For then the Kings Steward is to sit in the Chancellors place and the Lords are to be Tryers and Judges And so by judging others then their Peers descended below their degrees For none but Peers are so to be Tryed and Judged It is otherwise in Cases of misdemenors then the Chancellor keeps his Place and the Lords are only Judges and not Tryers they may command a Jury to be Impannelled For Tryal of the Facts if the truth appear not by the Parties answer the Testimonies are Exhibited as 1 R. 2. in the Case of Alice Peirce Here ariseth a Question Whether the Spiritual Lords de Jure are tryable by their Peers or no Out of Parliament they are not to be Tryed by the Peers But the doubt is whether in time of Parliament they are to be so Tryed or no To me it seems they may if the matter be moved against them in time of Parliament For as it is in the Parliament at York 15 E. 2. in the Act for the Repeal of the Spencers banishment they are Peers in Parliament Note that the Petition for the Repeal saith that the Bishops are Peers in Parliament The Bishops name themselves Peers of the Land And the Chancellor to the King And the Act stile them Peers of the Land in Parliment There be divers Presidents also of the Tryal of Bishops by their Peers in Parliament as well for Capital offences as misdemenors whereof they have been accused in Parliament As the Archbishop of Canterbury 15 E. 3. N. 6 7 8. Et ibid. postea 44 39. Et ibid. 17 E. 3. 22. And the Bishop of Norwich 7. R. 2. for misdemeanors So were the Bishops of York and Chichester Tryed for Treason by their Peers in Parliament upon the Appeal of the Lords Appellants 11 R. 2. Anno 21 R. 2. The Commons accused the Archbishop of Canterbury of Treason and the temporal Lords judged him a Traytor and banished him But if the Bishop be accused out of Parliament he is to be tryed by an Ordinary Jury of Free-holders for his honour is not inheritable as is the temporal Peers out of Parliament save that only of their Tryal As no day of Grace to be granted against them in any Suit A Knight to be returned upon the Pannel where a Bishop is party and no Process in a civil action to be awarded against his body and the like And by this it appeareth what Persons are de Jure tryable by the Lords in Parliament viz. their Peers only Touching the nature of the Offence Herein the complaint and accusation as well of the Party delinquent as offence is to be considered For upon the Information of the King at his Commandment or upon complaint of private Persons the Lords may not by the Law try any but their Peers for Capital offences And the Lords have ever referred offences of other nature complained of by private Persons to the Common-Law if there be remedy unless some special cause appear fit for their own Judgment But upon complaints and accusations of the Commons the Lords may proceed in Judgment against the Delinquent of what degree soever and what nature soever the offence be For where the Commons complain the Lords do not assume to themselves tryal at Common-Law Neither do the Lords at the tryal of a Common Impeachment by the Commons decedere de jure suo For the Commons are then in stead of a Jury and the Parties answer and examination of witnesses are to be in their Presence or they to have Copies thereof And the Judgment is not to be given but upon their demand which is in stead of a verdict so the Lords do only judg not try the Delinquent In the Lords proceedings in Judicature is observed also a certain form which varieth according to the nature of the complaint and the matter complained of so that no general Rules can be given therein though many Judgments have been reversed for errors whereof there be many Precedents And the Execution upon life and death hath been stayed at the Request of the Commons the proceedings being illegal whereof I have seen only one Precedent touching the Duke of Clarence tempore E. 4. Wherefore for our better understanding of the Form of Judicature let us first consider the several causes wherein Judicature belongs to the Parliament and then the ancient way of proceedings in each Cause CHAP. II. In what Cases Judicature belongs to the Parliament JUdicature belongs to the Parliament in these six Cases 1. In Judgments against Delinquents as well for Capital crimes as misdemeanors wherein is to be considered 1. The Accusation 2. The Parties Answer 3. The Replication 4. The proof by Examination of witnesses or otherwise 5. The Judgment 6. The Execution 2. In the Reversing erronious Judgments in Parliament are to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The bringing in the Record 3. The Assignment of Errors 4. The Reversal thereof 3. In the Reversing of erronious Judgments given in the Kings Bench are to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The Writ of Error 3. The bringing in the Record 4. The Assignment of Errors 5. The Writ of Scire facias 6. The Defendants answer 7. The Reversal of the Judgment 4. In deciding of Suits long depending either for difficulty or delay wherein is to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The advice with the Judges 3. The determination of the Lords 5. In hearing complaints of particular Persons on Petitions wherein is to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The Defendants answer 3. The Proof 4. The Orders of the Lords 6. In setting at Liberty any of their own Members or Servants imprisoned and in staying the proceedings at the Common-Law during the Priviledge of Parliament wherein consider 1. The Quality of the Person Imprisoned 2. The Parties Answer at whose Suit he is imprisoned 3. The manner of his Charge In certifying the Elections and Returns of Knights and Citizens for the Parliament But now the Commons alone determine of this Wherefore I will only shew that the Commons did heretofore Petition to the Lords for redress herein and what course was then taken I leave it to the Clerk of that House to shew how the Commons proceed herein at this day Of the rest in Order And first Of Judgments on Delinquents § 1. In Judgment against Delinquents is first to be considered the Accusation For as in the Kings Bench the Justices proceed not to the Arraignment of any Offender without an Indictment So the Lords have not proceeded to Judgment unless the Crimes have first been presented to them by way of Accusation If otherwise their Judgments have been reputed erronious as that against the Spencers was in 15 E. 2. Rot. 2. claus lit penden For the same Persons cannot be both Accusers
and that they are notorious and known for truth unto the Lords and all the People of the Realm And the Lords also having examined these Articles said all these things contained therein are notorious and known They speak not a word of any one witness examined or any other proof then the common fame For this Cause and for that the said Earl was not brought to Judgment nor to answer but condemned unseen and unheard upon common Fame only without any legal Proof The whole Parliament did very justly Repeal the said Judgment and Record declaring it to be erronious and defective in all points And the Lords were willing to damn the whole Record in all points least haply it might be alledged against themselves another time for Precedent Anno 15. E. 2. The Lords and Commons joyned in the Accusations against the Spencers and for that the Lords had no Record in their own pursuit upon the Cause contained in their award and they ought not to be their own Judges c. having been Accusors no exceptions were taken to the Articles but other Errors assigned quod vide where it is said to be sans Accusament so that they repealed it not for that there was no Accusation but for that he was not brought to his Answer Again That those words Sans accusament should simply signify no Accusation is only the Averment of the Petition The Judgment doth not say that there was no accusation but that it was erronious in all points And so it was no proof being produced but common Fame to prove the Answer And this first error bred a second I do not well understand the meaning of these words Sans accusament That a Peer ought to be Indicted for Capital offences in Parliament But having perused all the Judgments I do not find any one Peer indicted in Parliament In 11. R. 2. Numb 7. All the Lords Spiritual and Temporal claimed as their liberty and franchise that the great matters moved in this Parliament and to be moved in other Parliaments in time to come touching the Peers of the Land ought to be admeasured adjudged and discussed by the course of the Parliament and not by the Civil-Law nor by the Law of the Land used in the more base Courts of the Realm which the King granted in full Parliament eodem Anno Rot. Appeal 290. This is said to be their ancient custom viz. To be adjudged according to the use of the Parliament only Then no Peer can be indicted in Parliament for that it is contrary to the use of Parliament Let this suffice for the confession and rectifying mine own former Error herein But a Lord of Parliament may be indicted out of Parliament and by the Kings command proceeded against in the next Parliament upon the same indictment as in these Subsequent In the same Parliament the Lord Berkley was arraigned for the death of Ed. 2. and whether out of his humility or otherwise he waved his Peerage and put himself on the Tryal of his Country the Articles against him though not expressed but by the Inference out of his Arraignment are for the murder of King Ed. 2. at Berkley Castle in the County of Gloucester unto which he answered that he was then sick at Bradley in Worcestershire and pleaded not guilty of the death of the said King Et de hoc de bono malo ponit se super Patriam The Precedent shall hereafter be added at large It begins thus Placita Coronae tenta coram Dom. Rege Ed. 3. post conquestum Angliae in pleno Parliamento suo predicto Et allocutus de hoc quod cum Dominus Edwardus nuper Rex Angliae Pater Dom. Regis nunc in custodiam Thomae cujusdam Johannis Matrevers extitit deliberatus ad salvo custodiendum Castro ipsius Thomae de Berkley in Com. Gloucester in eodem Castro in custodia ipsorum murderatus extitit interfectus qualiter se velit de morte ipsius Regis acquietare dicit c. Numb 16. Then follows his Answer Here the cause why the Lord Berkley was tryed is mentioned but the Articles objected against him and by whom he was accused who questioned him whether the Chancellor or Steward of England or who else All these circumstances are omitted It appears not I say in what manner this crime of the Lord Berkley was presented to the Lords whether by the former general Information against Mortimer autres de la Covyn or by some such Particular Information against him alone which I rather believe Some such Information there must be of necessity else how could he be question'd for his crime in Parliament But here it appeareth that the Lords brought him to his Answer which they omitted to Mortimer and in that Point their Proceedings against Mortimer were erronious And had his manner of Accusation been erronious also No doubt but the Lords would have avoyded that error now against Berkley The manner how Berkley was arraigned here in pleno Parliamento is explained in the Precedent of 1 R. 2. Gomeniz and Weston who were brought Prisoners by the Constable of the Tower before the Lords in full Parliament sitting in the white Chamber where they were arraigned at the commandment of the said Lords in full Parliament by Sir Richard le Scroop Knight Steward of the Kings House The words full Parliament signify the Lords and Commons For that Record saith the Commons prayed that all such that have surrendred any Forts c. might be put to their Answer before the Lords and Commons c. Whereupon they were brought to their Answers in full Parliament for that Offence So here I conceive the Lord Berkley being accused by the King for the murder of King E. 2. was brought before the Lords and Commons For the Commons are to be present at such arraignment as shall be shewn hereafter and the Clerk of the Crown having read the Accusation against him Allocutus fuit That is the Lord Steward of England recited the Fact whereof he was accused and demanded of him how he could acquit himself This I conceive to be the manner thereof Vide the Appeals 21 R. 2. for the form thereof I marvel the Lords permitted the Lord Berkley to wave his Peerage and put himself super Patriam Anno 4 R. 2. Sir Ra. Ferrers Knight was brought into Parliament under the guard of the Marshal of England and there arraigned on the Kings behalf for suspition of Treason c. Numb 21. In the Process against him is recorded that for suspition of Treason surmised against him he was arrested in the Marches of Scotland by Monsieur de Lancaster and other Lords Temporal there being in the said Marches and that he was brought under the said Arrest by commandment of the Lords to Answer in this Parliament to that which shall be surmised against him in special concerning certain Letters which were found and sent to the King and his Councel The Letters
against Henry late Earl of Northumberland and Tho. Bardolph late Lord Baron for certain ill deeds which they had lately committed contrary to their Allegiance At their meeting the Constable of England shewed them the Process made in the Court of Chivalry against Henry de Peircy upon the Articles of Treason committed by him and others of his Covyn In which Articles are named the Arch-Bishop of York Tho. Newberry Earl Marshal the said Earl of Northumberland the said Lord Bardolph and many others and their several Treasons are therein contained The Lords having advised therein and considered the proofs delivered their opinion to the King touching the said Earl of Northumberland and the said Lord Bardolph only and proceeded to Judgment against them Then the King caused to be demanded of the Lords Temporal Peers of the Realm what they would say touching the Act of the said late Arch-Bishop of York and of the said Earl Marshal who lately with a great multitude of people were armed and trained in the field within the Realm of England with Banners displayed c. Unto which demand the said Lords Temporal said That according to the Information to them given by the said Constable It seemeth unto them to be Treason yet notwithstanding the Lords desired that with good deliberation when they next returned to the Parliament they might speak thereof unto our Lord the King as no error might be found in their doings in time to come This was done on that day the Parliament was adjorned Here the Lords had no other Accusation against those two Peers but the Kings commandment upon view of former Process against them in the Court of Chivalry And the Lords declared their opinion touching the Archbishop of York and the Earl Marshal though their Treasons were contained in the same Process also least Error might be found in their doings hereafter But whether they thought their Error to be that the King had not commanded them first to advise thereon touching the said Archbishop and the Earl Marshal as he had done touching the others Let the Reader Judge For my part I think that would have been error Could the Lords proceed upon Process elsewhere unless the King commands them 2 H. 6. The Judgment against John Mortimer is drawn up very briefly by John Hales one of the Justices of the Kings Bench wherein he first shews that the said Sir John Mortimer was Indicted in London sitting the Parliament before the Lord Mayor of London and other Commissioners appointed by the King For that the said Sir John being committed to the Tower for suspition of Treason corrupted his keeper and broke Prison That the said Indictment was returned into Chancery Ex mandato Dom. Regis and by the Chancery brought into the Parliament before the Duke of Gloucester the Kings Protector and the Lords Temporal the King being then an Infant And the Protector being Authorized by Commission to hold the Parliament de Precepto Dom. Regis That the said Sir John Mortymer by Vertue of the Writs was brought before the said Duke and Lords and Commons That the said Commons affirmed the said Indictment to be true and desired Judgment against him as convict of Treason and Felony And lastly That he was thereupon adjudged In this is set down all the essential parts of the Lords proceedings against Mortymer The Ceremonious or formal parts thereof are omitted as who complained of or accused Mortymer to the Parliament The King or the Commons did not for then there needed no Indictment And therefore it must move for the King either before the Indictment or rather upon the Return thereof unto the House For had the Accusation been before the Indictment it had been a shorter way to Arraign him also before the Commissioners in London he being no Member nor Peer of Parliament then to return the Indictment into the Chancery and then be brought into the Parliament Here is also omitted the Conference before hand between the Lords and Commons touching this matter For it is very unlikely that the Lords did suddainly send for the Commons and then abruptly read the Information before them and they as suddainly affirm the same all these are necessarily understood That the Commons affirmed the Indictment e. It appears that the Lords cannot of themselves Judge a Common Person for an Offence for he is no Peer according to that of 4 E. 3. Numb 26. The manner of Accusation by Information Ex parte Dom. Regis is when the Commons as any other private Person accuse any man unto the Lords in general but do not declare the Offences in particular other then by the Commandment of the King Articles are drawn up against the Delinquent Ex parte Dom. Regis The Precedents are these 2 R. 2. The Constable of the Tower was commanded to bring Gomeniz and Weston whose Offences were complained of in general by the Commons that they named before the Lords in Parliament to Answer to the Articles objected against them on the behalf of the King and they were severally arrained at the Commandment of the Lords c. Eodem anno Alice Pierce being complained of by the Commons was accused and commanded to come before the Lords in Parliament to Answer to certain things objected against her on the Kings behalf And here upon Sir Richard le Scroope Chief Steward of the Kings House by Comandment of the Lords rehersed in Parliment in the presence of the said Alice a certain Ordinance c. Made in the Parliament of 50 E. 3. against her And this Rehersal being made the said Steward surmised unto the said Alice That it seemed to the Lords of the Parliament that she had incurred the pain comprised in the said Ordinance in certain points and especially in two That is to say c. By these two Precedents it appears plain enough that the Lords commanded the Articles to be drawn and exhibited though ex parte Dom. Regis for all these are said to be done by their Commandment And the practise at this day is that out of the Complaints of the Commons as of Mompesson The Lord Chancellor and the Lord Tresurer and a Committee of the Lords did draw up the Charges But they wanted the words Ex parte Dom. Regis The reason why in this Cause the Articles are Ex parte Dom. Regis seemed to be this The Commons complain but impeach not Notwithstanding the Impeachment the Lords cannot proceed neither can they Impeach any to themselves So it rests that the party is to be Impeached at the Kings Suit It may be lawful for me to examine the proceedings of the Lords in the Complaint against Mompesson and to compare them with ancient Proceedings in like Cases And they will appear to differ much And touching Mompesson the Commons did not only complain but accuse him He fled in his absence they ought to have proceeded to Judgment against him before Proclamation first made for him to appear before the
They met at Westminster June 19. and were assisted by the Lord Treasurer Lord Keeper Lord Privy Seal the Master of the Rolls and the King 's two Serjeants c. and they called the Fishmonger before them and cause to be recited the said Accusation and the Chancellor's Answer and then demanded of him what he could say why he should not undergo the Penalty of the Statute against such Scandals especially whenas the Chancellor hath acquitted himself in Parliament and is yet ready to acquit himself by any way possible The Fishmonger denied that he slandered the Chacellor but the Clerk only c. The Commissioners considering the Accusation and Answer in Parliament and especially that the Fishmonger said he could not have Justice in his Cause before the Chancellor the contrary whereof was expressed and proved out of the Records of the Chancery They adjudged him guilty of Defamation and to pay one hundred Marks to the Chancellor and to be imprisoned until he could pay the same and a competent Fine due to the King It should seem the Lords could find no time to examine the Injustice he complained of and therefore referred it to the Judges Anno 6. R. 2. Octab. Mich. Numb 59. Divers Bills were exhibited this Parliament by the Mayor Aldermen and Citizens of London concerning the Fishmongers and the said Mayor and Aldermen and Fishmongers were present at the reading thereof where Nicholas Exton who spake for the Fishmongers prayed the King to receive him and his Company into his Majesties protection Numb 59. which was granted Numb 60. Then one Walter Sybil a Fishmonger craved Audience and said These Bills were not exhibited for any good zeal to the Commonweal but for meer Malice to the Fishmongers for that the chief Exhibiters of these Bills being commanded to prison for sundry Misdemeanors in the time of E. 3. were then imprisoned by certain of the Fishmongers who then were chief Officers in London for which cause Malice was born at that time Numb 60. To that one John Moore a Mercer answered The Citizens of London went to keep the Peace towards them unless they went about to let into the said City the Rebels of Kent and Essex as the said Walter and others did Numb 60. The said Walter Sybill took advantage of those words and desired the Lords to bear witness John Moore thereupon expounded his words saying as the Report then went and prayed the Lords that the Truth thereof might be further enquired of in the City There is one only Precedent of a Complaint made by a private person in the House of Commons and of the Commons proceeding therein against a Lord of the Parliament which was thus Anno 15. H. 6. Tho. Philips exhibited unto the Commons his Bill of Complaint against John Bishop of London for his long Imprisonment upon suspition of Heresie The Commons sent up the Bill being written in Paper amongst other to the Lords without any Message for ought appeareth upon Record On Monday following the Bill was read and the Lords Excogitabant That it did not belong to their House de talibus frivolis rebus consultare and returned it to the Commons Hereupon the Commons sent to the Bishop for his Answer in writing unto this Complaint which yet the Bishop did forbear to do until he knew the Opinion of the Lords herein and acquainted their Lordships therewith The next day the Lords answered all with one voyce Quod non consentaneum fuit aliquem Procerum alicui in eo loco responsurum Lunae 2. Martii In the Parliament begun at Westminster An. 16. Jac. Sir John Bowser Knight complained of the Bishop of Lincoln the then Lord Keeper but he was not compellable to answer before the Commons 10 R. 2. The Commons accused de la Poole openly in Parliament before the King and Lords unto which the Councellors made a good Answer in the Opinion of this Age yet upon the many Replications of the Commons and the enforcement of his Oath strictly against him he was Fined and Imprisoned c. In this Parliament also the Lords and Commons procured Commission unto certain of the Lords to enquire of the Enormities of the Realm and to redress them The King was so highly displeased with these Proceedings that on the last day of this Parliament being the 25th of November he himself protested that nothing done therein should turn to the Prejudice of him or his Crown Afterwards he sought all means to overthrow those Lords who procured that Commission viz. the Duke of Gloucester the Earls of Danby Arundel Warwick and Earl Marshal And at a Consultation thereupon he sent for the Chief Justice Tressilian and some other Judges and his Serjeants at Law unto Nottingham where on August 25. Anno 11. he propounded certain Questions containing all the points of Advantage against the Proceedings of the last Parliament which the Judges affirmed to be Treason under their Hands and Seals Then the King thought to proceed judicially against those Lords but they kept together with the Duke of Gloucester at Heringby with a strong Guard And the King sent for them and all doubts of danger to their Persons being first removed they came Novemb. 3. Anno 11. and kneeling before the King's Majesty he demanded why they were Assembled at Heringby-Park in warlike manner They answered for the good of the King and Kingdom and to remove certain Traytors from about him meaning the Lord of Ireland the Archbishop of York Michael de la Poole Sir Robert Tresilian and Sir Nich. Brembre And with that they threw down their Gloves and Gages of the Challenging to prove the same Unto which the King replied This shall not be done so but at the next Parliament which shall be the Morrow after Candlemas Day and then all parties shall receive according as they deserve In the mean time he conveys away the parties accused and acquits them by Proclamation then summoned a Parliament at Westminster Crast. Purificat 11 R. 2. Where these few Lords Appellants came well Armed which made the King unwilling to come amongst them yet at last he came Haec ex Ep. fol. 603. On the first Day of this Parliament the Duke of Gloucester one of the said Appellants kneeling before the King shewed That whereas he understood his Majesty was informed that he intended the Deposing of him and Advancing himself to the Crown he was ready to declare his Innocency herein in such sort as the Lords would ordain Whereupon the King answered He held him thereof acquitted On the second Day of this Parliament the said Appellants exhibited their Petition to the King concerning several Articles against divers Lords and Commons whom they appealed of Treason The said Articles being read in presence of the King and Lords in Parliament the said Appellants offering to make Proofs thereof required that the said Appellees might be called to Answer and for default of their Appearance demanded Judgment against them Hereupon
the King and Lords deliberated The Judges of the Common Law and the Sages of the Civil Law were charged by the King to give their best Counsel to the Lords of the Parliament how to proceed in their Appeal rightly Who after long Consultation answered the Lords That the Appeal is in no point made and declared according to the Order of the Common or Civil Law The Lords after long Debate declared by the Assent of the King that the Offences being committed by the Peers the Cause should be determined in Parliament only and that by the Law and Order of Parliament only and adjudged the said Appeal with the Process thereon depending to be good according to the Laws and Course of Parliaments And the Default of Appearance was Recorded and Judgment given c. against those who made their default After which Sir Nicholas Brembre a Commoner was brought Prisoner before the King and the Lords at the request of the said Appellants And the said Articles being read he pleaded Not Guilty which he was ready to defend with his Body Whereupon the Commons of the Parliament said that they had seen and considered all the said Articles which they found to be true and that they likewise as much as in them lay did also accuse the said Appellees which they would have done and it appertained to them to have done had not the aforesaid Appellants pursued the said Appeals Whereupon was answered by the Lords of Parliament That the Battel doth not lie in this Case but that they upon examination of the Articles would proceed to Judgment Here I note That the Lords cannot proceed against a Commoner but upon a Complaint of the Commons But here is not expressed how the Commons came daily to have a sight of these Articles I deny not but after they were read in their presence for their presence is always understood in Judicature upon Life and Death prout postea they demanded a sight of the Articles and considered of them apart and then supplied the Defects thereof And this also is to be observed that the Commons accuse Commoners as the Lords do their own Peers I suppse that Brambre was denied the Battel because the Commons accused him also otherwise he ought to have it granted upon an Appeal Afterwards the Commons themselves accused and impeached divers Commoners prout 2 Mar. Sir Rob. Belknap L. Chief Justice of the Common Pleas Sir John Carey late Chief Baron and other Justices c. The Records were brought into the Parliament at the Demand of the Commons and the Commons accused the Justices for their untrue Answer made unto sundry Questions before the King at Nottingham to the emboldning of the aforesaid Offenders in their traiterous Designs and Attempts c. Unto which they answered c. were adjudged c. And then follows another Impeachment of the Commons thus The Accusements and Impeachments made by the Commons of the Realm against Simon de Burle Sir John Beauchamp Sir John Salisbury and Sir James Berners Knights do ensue underwritten whereof the Commons pray Judgment in this present Parliament Thus much touching the Appeal of 11 R. 2. But this begot another Appeal in the 21th of the said K. R. 2. in the Parliament begun Sept. 14. being the Feast of St. Oswald Edmond Earl of Rutland Tho. Earl of Kent John Earl of Hunt Tho. Earl of Nottingh Joh. Earl of Somerset Jo. Earl of Salisbury the Lord Despencer and William Scroop Chancellor unto our Lord the King in their proper persons delivered unto our Lord the King then sitting in the great Hall within the Castle at Nottingh in his Royal Estate with a Crown on his Head a Bill of Appeal against Tho. Duke of Gloucester Richard Earl of Arundel and Tho. Earl of Warwick The which Bill of Appeal is recited in that Parliament and as it seems per Copiam verborum inde was penned by the Advice of some Civil Lawyer It seems also they were very careful herein to avoid all Errors of the former Appeals For in that of 11 R. 2. they appealed divers Commoners but here the Lords appealed none but Peers then it was done by word of mouth they being called to the King upon some other occasion but now it was done solemnly in writing and was delivered to the King sitting in his Throne of State There they offer'd to prove their Accusation by Battel a thing not meet for the Parliament or in what course his Majesty would ordain it but here the Bill was read in Parliament and they said they have been and are ready to prove c. as you our thrice Redoubted King and this Honourable Court of Parliament should ordain Nor were they less careful in their proceeding to Judgment to avoid the Errors in the former prout in the Answer But these Appeals are now abolished by 1 H. 4. c. 14. and not without cause for as this Accusation was extraordinary so were the Proceedings carried with a strong hand the former by the Lords this by the King prout ex Chroniculis in quinto comparet cum Codice 1 Maij A Brief whereof so much as concerns this Appeal follows hereafter at large with the Precedents of 21 R. 2. Ad quod Parliamentum convenire jussit Rex omnes Dominos sibi adhaerentes cum Sagittariis viris armatis tanquam ad bellum contra hostes omnino progressuri fuissent Ipse vero Rex ut efficacius proficere possit nequam conceptus malefactores de Comit ' Cestr ' congregari fecit ad velandum locum stramine c. Erexerat autem Rex quandam domum amplissimam in Palatio Westmonaster ' quae pene totum Palatii spatium occupavit in qua sibi Thronus parabatur altissimus pro cunctis Regni Statibus locus largus pro Appellantibus in uno latere locus specialiter deputatus in alio latere locus largus pro Responsu assignatus seorsim vero pro Nobilitatibus Parliamenti qui non fuerunt electi per Communitatem Et Forale nuncupatur Parliamentum Thus much of Accusation by Appeal which when any of the Lords accused others out of Parliament was summoned but God be thanked they are abolished 1 H. 4. c. 14. CHAP. III. The Parties Answer THe Party accused is to be brought to his Answer otherwise the whole Judgment will be erroneous as was Mortym 23 E. 3. Numb 10. and Spencer's 15 E. 2. and John Matrevers 21 E. 3. Numb 65. dors Although the Party be absent yet the Parliament hath used all means possible to have his Answer prout 21 R. 2. where the Lords Appellants and the Commons also accused Tho. Mortymer of Treason and the Commons said That it was notoriously known unto them that the King had sent his Mandate by W. D. a Serjeant at Arms unto the said Mortymer in Ireland commanding him upon his Allegiance to come before the King in all haste to answer c. And that the
tell openly before them the full Truth saith clearing the Lord Nevil but afterwards he confessed against him He was examined in presence of two of the House of Commons Many Complaints were made against Richard Love and William Ellis in the Parliament and a Commission sent to enquire of the behaving themselves in their Offices 1 R. 2. Alice Peirce Not Guilty and that she would prove by Testimony of the late King's Houshold whom she named The Offence being for procuring E. 3. privately to revoke an Ordination of his Councel The Lords gave her Day and in the mean time named a Committee to examine Witnesses The Committee were the Duke of Lancaster Earls of Arundel Cambridge Northampton and of March And divers Witnesses who are named were sworn upon the Holy Evangelists and diligently examined upon the Articles objected against her The Lord Beauchamp was sworn and examined and the Duke of Lancaster being one of the Committe was diligently examined before the rest of the said Committee but not sworn ad testificandum Earls and Dukes are not sworn A Jury of the Houshold was impannelled for her Trial before the said Committee The Order made by the Lords for the Examination and Trial. Per l'assent Prelat des Seigneurs du dit Parlement ordeint fuit que testes Articles serounttrious per testimonies per enquest d'eux que seront de Hostel de dit Appeale que le verite purroit mieux estre conus By vertue of this Order the said Committee did take the Examination of the Witnesses and after their Examinations it follows thus Et nient minus seroit venire devant le Duc les dits Commissionaries Monsieur K. B. c. And so names eight Knights and nine Esquires queux fuerint jures adire le verite si le dit Alice fuit culpable de les Articles avant dits ou nemy Note This is the only Jury I find Recorded for Misdemeanors in Parliament I make no doubt but if the Delinquent doth put himself upon the Trial of his Country That a Jury ought to be impannelled therefore But if the Commons impeach any man they are in loco proprio and there no Jury ought to be only Witnesses are to be examined in their Presence or they to have Copies thereof And the Judgment not to be given until the Commons demand it For Proof that the Witnesses ought to be examined in their Presence vide 50 E. 3. The Impeachment of the Lord Nevile where Richard Love was examin'd in presence of two Knights of the House of Commons who contraried his Testimony Numb 44. The Proof that a Delinquent may put himself super Patriam vide 4 E. 3. Where the Lord Berkley who waved his Peerage was tried by a Jury of Gloucestershire and Warwickshire for that he was Arraigned for the Murder of E. 2. at Berkley-Castle in Com. Glouc. And he answered That he was sick at that time at Bewdley in Com. Wigorn. But he was Arraigned upon an Information ex parte Dom. Regis and not upon the Impeachment of the Commons for then they had been Patria sua And as the Party may put himself super Patriam so he may demand Battel But not when he is accused ex parte Domini Regis prout Clarence Anno 18 E. 4. Nor when he is accused by the Commons prout Brembre 11 R. 2. When the Earl of Arundel was brought to answer the Appeals the Lords Appellants threw down their Gloves by way of a Challenge The Earl answered Si essem liber non resurgeram Note That the Commons had accused them also Vide a Herald Parl. lib. Mayleress And thereupon it was testified openly in Parliament That our Lord the King had expresly said that day before the same Lord then present in Parliament That he knew not how nor in what manner the said Richard was come into such an Office about him and which is more he did not know him to be his Officer Anno 21 R. 2. The Lord Cobham being brought to his Answer for procuring a Commission to himself and others in derogation of the King's Prerogative 11 R. 2. and for executing the said Commission He denied the procuring thereof and that he would not have used the said Commission without the King's Commandment and that he told the King so much and that the King commanded him not to intermeddle therein Whereunto our Lord the King answered and said That he was in such Governance at that time that he could not otherwise say because of them that were then about him And that the Lord Cobham knew well that the said Commission was made at his Will The which thing Jo. de Cobham did not gainsay at his Trial and so Judgment passed on him for the same and he adjudged a Traytor Et qui non vult Anno 18 E. 4. George Duke of Clarence was Arraigned in Full Parliament There is no mention thereof in the Roll but in a Manuscript of that time written by a Frier of Croyland Tam testis est vera disceptatio ea habita inter duos tantae humanitatis Germanos Nam nemo arguit contra Ducem nisi Rex nemo respondet Regi nisi Dux Introducti autem erant nonnulli de quibus à multis valde dubitatur an Accusatorum an Testium officiis sunt functi utraque enim officia in eadem causa eisdem personis non congruunt Delevit enim object a Dux ille per Justificationem asseruit si exaudiri possit manuali defensione teneri causam suam Quid multis numeror Parliament les reputantes audit as Informationes sufficere formarunt in eam sententiam damnationis quae ab Henrico Duce Buck. pro tempore noviter creato Anglorum Seneschallo prolata est postea dilata est executio quo ad usque Prolocutor Communitatis in superiorem Cameram cum sociis suis adveniens novam ejus conficiendae rei requisitionem fecerat consequenter infra paucos dies factum est id qualecunque genus Supplicii secreti infra Turrim London utinam sine malo Anno Dom. 1418. Regni vero Regis E. 4. 18. per Anonimum libris Cotton Here let us examine for what illegal proceedings the Commons desired to have the Cause tried again The Author saith Nemo arguit contra Ducem nisi Rex This the Commons held to be against Law That the King himself should enforce either Article or Testimony against a Delinquent in a Capital Cause For it is inconvenient That he who hath the Forfeiture of Life Lands and Goods shall be Accuser Witness or Judge The Commons were present at this Trial and considering the Inconveniences thereof they returned and made the Request ut supra Primo Car. 1. In the Parliament of 6 Febr. John Earl of Bristol was accused by the King's Attorney of Treason beyond the Seas 8 May 1626. The said Earl petitioned the Lords That seeing several points of that Charge are grounded upon private
have cognizance what was done touching the said Rebellions of Salop and elsewhere-within the Realm whereupon New Proclamations were made and the subsequent proceedings were done in full Parliament in presence of the Commons and the Record saith upon the Request of the Commons A Question hath been often asked Whether the Commons did heretofore sit at Conference with the Lords Which I cannot very well resolve but verily believe That at all these Arraignments the Commons did sit with the Lords 10 R. 2. Gomeniz and Weston were brought before the Lords and Commons sitting in the White Chamber The Words are Devant les Seignieurs avant dits en plein Parlement c. But the Commons are here intended by the Words en plein Parlement And so was the Commons Demand that they may be tried before the Lords No other Records speak whether they did sit or stand In Judgments on Misdemeanors The Presence of the Commons is not necessary unless they impeach a Delinquent prout 50 E. 3. And then they were present at all the Answers of those whom they Impeached and demanded Judgment And when the Lords had rendred their Judgment against the Lord Latimer to be prisoner with the Marshal and to make Fine and Ransom to the King the Commons prayed the King he might also be put out of all his Offices and especially from being Privy Councellor Which the King granted And when the Lords had determined one part of the Complaint of the Commons against William Ellis touching a wrong done to certain Scottish Merchants the Commons prayed a general Enquiry might be made of the Residue whereof they complained which the Lords granted And when the Lord Nevil Answered They required that one Richard Love might be examined to prove that which the said Lord denied and they departed but two of the Commons remained and heard the Examination and told the Lords That the said Richard had related it to the Commons otherwise the day before which the said Richard denied Then all the Commons came and justified it again and thereupon the said Richard Love confessed it and on their Demands was committed This shews what Interest they have in their own Impeachments So in 10 R. 2. When the Commons had Impeached the Lord Chancellor They were present at his Answer and so often Replied and enforced his Oath against him and required him to be Committed and so he was before Judgment but Bayled presently But if the Commons do only complain and do neither impeach the Party in Writing nor by word of Mouth in open House nor demand Trial to be in their Presence In these Cases it is in the Election of the Lords whether the Commons shall be present or not And therefore when they complained of Alice Peirce 10 R. 2. The Lords deferred her Trial until the Departure of the Parliament that is till the Commons had leave to depart And if the Commons presence be not necessary in such Cases where they complain much less is it wherein they complain not yet they have been present when they did not complain but that was upon an extraordinary Cause prout 7 R. 2. A Fishmonger exhibited his Complaint first to the Commons against the Lord Chancellor and afterwards to the Lords in Full Parliament in presence of the Commons But they were present no doubt at the Lord Chancellor's Request That he might clear himself in Publick of the Slander and so he did The Presence of the Judges In Cases Capital the Judges are to be present also otherwise it is not a Full Court but they have no Voyce And though there be divers Precedents that complain of the Prelates prout 21 R. 2. 2 H. 5. and this last of the Commons yet there is not one Precedent that finds fault with their Absence in these Cases for they are not tractare cum caeteris Magnatibus but cum caeteris de Concilio Here may be Objected that which Tresilian and other Judges answered to one of the King's Questions 11 R. 2. touching the Judgment of Michael de la Poole That the same Justices and Serjeants would not give the same Judgment because it seemeth to them that the same is irrevocable as erroneous to every part Vid. Print Stat. 21 R. 2. Tresilian was much mistaken as much as in the other Answers whereby he determined that to be Treason and so here he gave his Advice not his Consent And yet he saith he gave his Consent Read but a little further and you shall find in the very same place as followeth Which Questions and Answers as well before the King as before the Lords and Commons were read and perceived and it was demanded of all the States of Parliament how they thought of the Answer And they said They thought the Justices made and gave the Answers duly and lawfully as good and liege People of the King ought to do And in the same manner Sir Tho. of Shelton Learned in the Law and Will. Hawkford and Will. Beechley the King's Serjeants being demanded by the King of their Advice c. and my Lord Will. Thurning of the Common Pleas c. That the Declaration of Treason not declared belongeth to the Parliament And if he had been demanded he would have said in the same manner And in like manner my Lord William Rickill Justice of the Common Bench and after the coming of my Lord William Clopton Chief Justice he said thus Wherefore the said Answers be judged good and affirmed sufficient in the said Parliament Whereupon the King by the Assent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Procurators of the Clergy and the said Commons and by the Advice of the said Justices and Serjeants there being It was Awarded and Adjudged c. Here you see the Manner of the Judges Assent viz. their Advice only Nor shall you find their Assents to any Statute yet the Judges have ever used to be present at the Trials in Parliament upon Life and Death 5 H. 4. The King delivered the Earl of Northumberland's Petition to them And at the Trial of any Peer out of Parliament the Judges are ever present on that Day and their presence is necessary for their Counsel to the Lords but their Assent is not necessary to the Judgment §. The Manner how the Lords resolve on their Judgment How this was Anciently appears in the Appeals 21 R. 2. Touching the Death of Simon Burley viz. It was demanded of every Lord who was present at the said Parliament his Advice of the said Simon touching his Crime Eodem Anno in the Print Stat. 21 R. 2. The Judges Opinions were demanded in the same manner beginning with the Serjeants c. and so ascending to the Chief Justice And at this Day the Question is put by the Chancellor or Lord Keeper and the puisne Baron answers first Content or not Content and so the Lords in Order But their Lordships do first debate the Judgment amongst themselves and the