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A31440 Independencie a great schism proved against Dr. Owen, his apology in his tract of schism : as also an appendix to the former discourse, shewing the inconstancy of the Dr. and the inconsistency of his former and present opinions / by D. Cawdrey ... Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1657 (1657) Wing C1630; ESTC R8915 103,968 258

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discourse_n of_o i_o and_o some_o former_a have_v give_v he_o just_a occasion_n to_o produce_v that_o we_o may_v be_v once_o bless_v with_o the_o sight_n of_o that_o model_n of_o their_o way_n so_o often_o desire_v so_o often_o promise_v and_o as_o often_o unfaithful_o deny_v we_o profess_v ourselves_o utter_o unsatisfied_a with_o what_o have_v yet_o be_v vouchase_v we_o to_o see_v but_o he_o will_v tell_v we_o brief_o what_o be_v the_o thing_n of_o great_a and_o weighty_a importance_n which_o must_v come_v under_o debate_n before_o a_o clear_a account_n can_v be_v give_v of_o the_o case_n state_v in_o the_o objection_n before_o we_o hear_v they_o i_o can_v but_o say_v they_o have_v deal_v the_o more_o unbrother_o with_o we_o to_o say_v no_o more_o and_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n abroad_o in_o set_v up_o their_o way_n of_o new_a church_n and_o never_o discover_v to_o we_o sufficient_o the_o ground_n of_o their_o so_o do_v let_v he_o look_v back_o to_o what_o he_o say_v p._n 7_o the_o party_n litigant_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o we_o shall_v attend_v he_o for_o the_o particular_a head_n §_o 25_o 1._o the_o true_a nature_n of_o a_o institute_v church_n under_o the_o gospel_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n form_n and_o all_o other_o necessary_a constitutive_a cause_n be_v to_o be_v investigate_v and_o find_v out_o to_o which_o i_o say_v 1._o form_n be_v there_o any_o constitutive_a cause_n beside_o matter_n &_o form_n this_o i_o think_v have_v be_v full_o do_v if_o not_o by_o all_o reform_a church_n yet_o by_o those_o of_o new_a england_n who_o have_v do_v what_o they_o can_v to_o clear_v up_o their_o way_n the_o constitute_a cause_n say_v they_o be_v matter_n and_o form_n the_o matter_n visible_a saint_n the_o form_n a_o explicit_a covenant_n of_o all_o the_o member_n but_o they_o have_v be_v tell_v they_o have_v contradict_v themselves_o by_o require_v a_o explicit_a consent_n and_o yet_o confess_v a_o implicit_a to_o be_v sufficient_a and_o this_o to_o be_v in_o our_o church_n and_o yet_o separate_v from_o we_o 2._o i_o have_v think_v his_o definition_n of_o a_o institute_v particular_a church_n give_v we_o above_o have_v hold_v out_o all_o the_o constitute_a cause_n of_o such_o a_o church_n it_o be_v a_o society_n of_o man_n call_v by_o the_o word_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o faith_n in_o christ_n and_o joint_a performance_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o the_o same_o individual_a ordinance_n according_a to_o the_o order_n prescribe_v by_o christ_n such_o society_n be_v we_o in_o all_o the_o particular_a ingredient_n of_o this_o definition_n as_o be_v show_v above_o all_o that_o can_v be_v object_v be_v but_o to_o the_o last_o particle_n according_a to_o the_o order_n by_o christ_n prescribe_v which_o be_v the_o question_n between_o we_o &_o must_v not_o be_v beg_v on_o either_o side_n but_o prove_v and_o it_o concern_v he_o to_o show_v the_o contrary_n what_o ordinance_n do_v we_o want_v or_o what_o have_v we_o of_o humane_a addition_n and_o as_o for_o our_o joint_a consent_n though_o we_o have_v it_o implicit_o yet_o sufficient_o it_o be_v not_o in_o his_o definition_n which_o yet_o be_v one_o of_o the_o constitute_a cause_n of_o their_o church_n if_o then_o the_o definition_n of_o such_o a_o church_n be_v as_o applicab●●_n to_o our_o church_n as_o to_o his_o own_o we_o be_v true-instituted_n church_n and_o whether_o they_o be_v schismatic_n in_o renounce_v communion_n with_o we_o let_v the_o whole_a christian_a church_n be_v judge_n and_o i_o go_v on_o to_o the_o next_o §_o 26_o 2._o the_o nature_n and_o form_n of_o such_o a_o church_n be_v to_o be_v exemplyfy_v from_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o story_n of_o the_o first_o church_n before_o sensible_o infe●ted_v with_o the_o poison_n of_o apostasy_n which_o ensue_v this_o have_v abundant_o be_v do_v by_o the_o assembly_n and_o other_o divine_n though_o he_o be_v not_o please_v to_o take_v notice_n of_o it_o and_o we_o dare_v join_v issue_n with_o he_o in_o this_o debate_n when_o ever_o he_o will_v begin_v it_o 3._o the_o extent_n of_o the_o apostasy_n under_o antichrist_n 271._o p._n 271._o as_o to_o the_o ruine_n of_o institute_v church_n make_v they_o to_o be_v babylon_n and_o their_o worship_n fornication_n be_v due_o and_o careful_o to_o be_v examine_v here_o lie_v our_o disorder_n hence_o our_o darkness_n etc._n etc._n though_o we_o may_v arise_v we_o shall_v not_o easy_o shake_v ourselves_o out_o of_o the_o dust_n i_o suppose_v he_o do_v not_o mean_v this_o last_o of_o his_o own_o church_n they_o be_v not_o only_o rise_v but_o have_v shake_v off_o the_o very_a dust_n of_o that_o apostasy_n i_o shall_v not_o contradict_v he_o for_o his_o own_o particular_a church_n because_o i_o be_o a_o stranger_n to_o it_o but_o of_o some_o of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o same_o constitution_n i_o dare_v confident_o affirm_v they_o be_v fall_v again_o into_o the_o old_a apostasy_n in_o matter_n of_o doctrine_n and_o have_v more_o dust_n upon_o their_o garment_n than_o many_o of_o we_o have_v but_o we_o shall_v be_v content_a to_o put_v ourselves_o upon_o the_o search_n and_o if_o it_o may_v appear_v that_o yet_o we_o retain_v any_o thing_n of_o that_o apostasy_n we_o shall_v promise_v faithful_o to_o relinquish_v it_o but_o i_o be_o very_o jealous_a he_o expect_v a_o fine_a and_o a_o high_a reformation_n than_o we_o dare_v look_v for_o in_o in_o this_o world_n till_o christ_n himself_o come_v to_o reign_v visible_o on_o earth_n as_o some_o do_v expect_v he_o will_v ere_o long_o viz_o by_o revelation_n of_o the_o spirit_n he_o speak_v suspicious_o this_o way_n p._n 42._o when_o the_o order_n spirituality_n beauty_n and_o glory_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n shall_v return_v etc._n etc._n these_o dispute_n will_v have_v a_o issue_n and_o again_o p._n 70._o when_o god_n shall_v have_v reduce_v his_o church_n to_o their_o primitive_a purity_n etc._n etc._n and_o once_o more_o p._n 200._o so_o soon_o as_o christ_n church_n be_v shake_v out_o of_o the_o dust_n of_o babylon_n with_o his_o glory_n shine_v on_o they_o etc._n etc._n §_o 27_o 4._o by_o what_o way_n and_o mean_n god_n beget_v a_o new_a and_o keep_v alive_a his_o elect_a 271._o p._n 271._o in_o their_o several_a generation_n when_o antichristian_a darkness_n cover_v the_o earth_n suppose_v a_o intercision_n of_o institute_v ordinance_n so_o far_a as_o to_o make_v a_o nullity_n in_o they_o as_o to_o what_o be_v of_o simple_a institution_n etc._n etc._n he_o may_v do_v well_o to_o inquire_v and_o resolve_v we_o he_o can_v but_o know_v that_o there_o be_v many_o learned_a man_n that_o will_v not_o grant_v he_o his_o supposition_n of_o a_o intercision_n of_o all_o institute_v ordinance_n so_o far_o as_o to_o make_v a_o nullity_n in_o they_o and_o something_o have_v be_v say_v to_o this_o above_o which_o he_o may_v do_v well_o to_o consider_v the_o sum_n be_v this_o that_o if_o there_o be_v a_o utter_a intercision_n and_o so_o a_o nullity_n of_o all_o institute_v ordinance_n it_o be_v impossible_a to_o fix_v the_o tabernacle_n of_o god_n with_o man_n again_o without_o a_o miracle_n or_o some_o divine_a revelation_n as_o for_o the_o bohemian_a brethren_n conclude_v the_o whole_a papacy_n to_o be_v pure_o antichristian_a it_o be_v not_o a_o singular_a conceit_n for_o all_o reform_a church_n be_v of_o that_o opinion_n they_o distinguish_v the_o papacy_n which_o be_v as_o a_o scab_n or_o leprosy_n to_o the_o hand_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n make_v the_o former_a pure_o antichristian_a but_o not_o the_o latter_a but_o as_o perhaps_o erroneous_o for_o luther_n and_o his_o associate_n do_v not_o so_o they_o can_v not_o allow_v of_o the_o ordination_n of_o minister_n by_o any_o in_o communion_n with_o they_o so_o they_o be_v persuade_v of_o a_o necessity_n of_o continue_v that_o ordinance_n in_o a_o way_n of_o succession_n which_o whether_o our_o author_n do_v let_v he_o declare_v when_o he_o take_v into_o consideration_n the_o bohemian_a case_n they_o send_v to_o the_o greek_a and_o armenian_a church_n to_o have_v ordination_n from_o they_o therefore_o they_o do_v not_o believe_v there_o be_v a_o i●●●ision_n of_o all_o institute_v ordinance_n and_o when_o they_o see_v their_o way_n be_v perhaps_o as_o superstitious_a another_o way_n have_v no_o satisfaction_n there_o they_o take_v their_o ea●e_n to_o be_v extraordinary_a and_o so_o choose_v themselves_o elder_n and_o set_v they_o apart_o by_o fast_v and_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n where_o note_v a_o double_a difference_n their_o case_n be_v extraordinary_a there_o be_v no_o minister_n to_o ordain_v they_o but_o our_o brethren_n be_v ordain_v by_o lawful_a minister_n or_o may_v have_v find_v enough_o to_o do_v it_o if_o they_o have_v not_o be_v ordain_v but_o they_o renounce_v what_o they_o