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A66343 The answer to the report, &c., which the united ministers appointed their committee to draw up, as in the preface also letters of the Right Reverend the Bishop of Worcester, and the Reverend Dr. Edwards to Mr. Williams, against whom their testimony was produced by Mr. Lob : and animadversions on Mr. Lob's defence of The report / by Daniel Williams. Williams, Daniel, 1643?-1716.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699.; Edwards, John, 1637-1716. 1698 (1698) Wing W2645; ESTC R9333 67,736 107

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the cause of our Divisions Answ. 3. Altho' Brethren from a Zeal for Peace condescended to mention but three particulars in the third Paper yet it 's too evident that the Dissenters adhere to their own Paper called the first and refuse ours because this doth provide some Defence against some of the Errors which our difference is about the same cause for which they rejected the Articles in 1694. And it 's plain by what their Paper saith of Justification they had this our Paper of Ninety four before them and therefore must know that we insisted under that Head to have it clearly expressed That none are justified in the sight of God or Entitled to Eternal Life before they are effectually called or whilst they are unregenerate or in unbelief And that Men must repent in order to forgiveness as also that continued Repentance Faith and Holyness of Heart and Life are by the constitution of the Gospel as well as in the Nature of the things themselves necessary to salvation c. Our Dissenting Brethren knew this and yet insert nothing in that first Paper sufficient to this purpose By the Reporters arguing against us their not mentioning those things is their disowning of them and owning the contrary yea we have more reason to infer thus because what they omit was sent by the body of United Ministers to them as a mean of Union whereas what 's omitted by us was not sent to us much less to that end nor adjusted by our appointment But we need not to insist on this when by comparing the first and third Papers it 's evident that the foresaid Errors are inconsistent with the few variations in our Paper bnt very consistent with theirs tho' not in the sense designed by our Subscribing Brethren In the first part of the Head of Justification their Paper saith Repentance Faith and a Holy Conversation are by Gods express word manifestly necessary to Salvation They do not say Repentance is necessary to Pardon nor Faith to Iustification tho' that be the Head treated of No these are necessary to no more than a Holy Conversation is necessary to i. e. to Eternal Salvation nor do they say that the necessity of these to salvation it self is by the Gospel Constitution or any enacted Connexion between Duty and Benefit Things being thus worded it may pass with such who tell us the Gospel hath neither Precept Threatning nor Conditional promise Repentance is not antecedently necessary to Pardon nor Faith to the Justification of our Persons but only to manifest to our Consciences for our inward Peace that our Persons were justified before God whilst in our unbelief But such things are prevented by our Paper which saith That the Word of God requires Repentance that our Sins may be blotted out and Faith that we may be justified And afterwards the Gospel requires of us as our Duty that we repent and believe and God Pardons penitent Believers In like manner their Paper in the other Heads expresseth things so as that such may subscribe it who think the filth and fault of sin were Transacted on Christ he was the Criminal the Murtherer c. in Gods Account that God was really displeased with Christ and abhorred him as our surety tho' not considered in himself and sundry the like that our Paper gives no Countenance to which our subscribing Brethren do abhor It 's not then without Reason that the Dissenters insist on the first Paper whether they be such who hold those Errors or resolve to indulge such as do so And yet there wants not Art in placing the differences upon our omitting a Phrase in the third Paper wherein the true sense of it is expressed for the Reporter well saw a quarrel with us for the omission of a Phrase of so uncertain a sense is as yet more plausible than their struggle for Errors of so ill a sound would be Answ. 4. But if the Doctrines about which we differ are not yet sufficiently evident we shall with a desire of Union make this proposal If our Dissenting Brethren will declare their agreement with us First That Repentance towards God is Commanded in order to Remission of Sin Secondly That Faith in Christ is Commanded by the Gospel in order to the Justification of our Persons before God for the sake of th● alone Righteousness of Christ. Thirdly That the Word of God requires perseverance in true Faith and Holyness that we may be Partakers of the Heavenly Glory Fourthly That the Gospel promiseth Pardon through the Blood of Christ to the penitent Justificaion before God to the Believer and the Heavenly Glory to such as persevere in Faith and Holyness and also declareth that God will not Pardon the Impenitent justify the Unbeliever nor glorify the Apostate or Unholy Fifthly That justifying Faith is not only a perswasion of the understanding but also a receiving and resting upon Christ alone for Salvation Sixthly That by change of Person is meant that whereas we were Condemned for our sins the Lord Jesus was substituted in our Room to bear the Punishment of our sins for the satisfaction of Divine Iustice That whoever believes on him may be acquitted and saved But it is not intended that the Filth of sin was upon Christ nor that he was a Criminal in Gods Account Seventhly That by Christs being our surety is meant that Jesus Christ our Mediator obliged himself to expiate our sins by his Blood and to purchase Eternal Life for all that believe and Faith and every saving Grace for the Elect but it 's not intended that we were legally reputed to make satisfaction or purchase Eternal Life Eighthly That by Christs Answering for us the Obligations of the violated Law of Works is intended that whereas the Law obliged us to dye for our sins Christ became obliged to dye in our stead and whereas we were after we had sinned still obliged to yield perfect obedience Christ perfectly obeyed the Law that upon the Account of his Active and Passive obedience believers might be forgiven and entituled to Eternal Life but it 's not intended that the Sense of the Law of Works should be that if we or Christ obeyed we should live and if Christ suffered we should not dye tho' we sinned Nor that Believers are justified or to be judged by the Law of Works but by the Gospel altho' the Righteousness for the sake of which they are justified be as perfect as that Law of Works required and far more valuable If our Dissenting Brethren will Subscribe to these Propositions and Explications we will subscribe with them even to the Words Change of Persons surety and Answering for us the Obligations of the violated Law of Works as well as we have already subscribed that no work done by Men nor wrought by the Spirit of God in them Is any part of that Righteousness for the sake or on the Account whereof we are justified that being only the Righteousness of Christ without ut imputed
me when I assert the opposite Truths Am not I in a streight He and others call and provoke me to write and they might do it long enough if the interest of the Gospel and such injuries to my Friend assisted not their Calls Yet if I write I shall be deem'd the cause of all our Divisions But so 't will be if I write not Nay if I be not felo de se. I shall therefore adventure so pressed by Mr. Lob to give him some hasty thoughts I may well Call it an adventure for I foresee unless he is much changed since he wrote this Defence He will mis-represent what is written with the greatest Caution and if his Readers shall think him a fair adversary he is sure to have the better of any Man as will soon appear Mr. Lob p. 35. The Phrase of a Change of Christs Person was never invented till the Gentleman who engaged my Brother to enter upon this sorrowful undertaking started it And to speak the Truth it 's a Phrase only adjusted to express no more than what the Socinians do constantly grant for they say that Christ tho he suffered not the Punishment due to us for sin yet he endured grievous and dolorous Pains which is aptly enough expressed when it is said there was a Change of Christs Person for us for he was say these Hereticks Changed from Ease to Pain for our good Note 1. The Phrase Change of Person was used by Dr. Crisp and therefore not invented by me whom he meaneth it 's from him I cited it 2. Is it so ill a Phrase and serves only a Socinian purpose Then Mr. Lob should not make me a Socinian only for denying this Phrase He saith and that when he will speak the Truth it 's adjusted only to express what the Socinians constantly grant and yet Quarrels me for denying this dangerous expression 3. If this bad Phrase Change of Person and that good Phrase Change of Persons differ so far as Heterodox and Orthodox did not Mr. Lob deal unfairly all this while in telling the World I denied that Good Phrase Change of Persons only because I had denied this bad Phrase Change of Person for I assure you I no where deny a Change of Persons in the Plural Number tho according to his Liberty he saith I did p. 42. and I fully assert the sound Sense of it as the R. R. the Bishop of Worcester and the Reverend Dr. Edwards do Witness and they are Men he makes great use of in his Book as very sound in this point But being more concerned for my Friend Mr. Rebuker I shall with this place begin an Account of some of the Stabbing injuries he receives from Mr. Lob with an Art thou in Health my Brother 1. Mr. Lob makes Mr. R here to say with the Socinians that there was a Change only in the Person of Christ without an Exchange at all with Sinners because Mr. R. saith there was a Change of the Person of Christ in exchange for the Persons of Sinners tho not reciprocally in all respects this is plain for a meer Change from Ease to Pain is only a Change in Christs Person p. 31. he saith My Brother is in good earnest only for a Change of Christs Person without a Change between Christ and us When Reb. p. 44. this Phrase the Change of the Person of Christ hath truly an honest sound Sense Viz. The substitution of one Person in the Room of another And a proper redemption may be obtained by the Punishment of one in the Room of another If therefore Christs dying by way of Change or Exchange be all they would have it s granted c. Yet from this very place Mr. Lob infers as above 2. Mr. Lob represents Mr. R. to hold with the Socinians that Christ suffered only so for our Good as not to suffer truly in our stead Because Mr. R. affirmed that Christs suffering properly in our stead was for our good Mr. Lob saith p. 47. Whatever my Brother intends it 's manifest that while he Calls the Socinian Sense of Christs dying in our stead Knavish He gives the very Sense of this Phrase which the Socinians who use it do give and by it means if we may Judge his meaning by his words no more than what Socinus Crellius and that fraternity do consistently with a denial of Christs satisfaction constantly grant He saith worse the lines before See also p. 36. and 10 times repeats c. The Place he grounds this upon is Reb. p. 35. The Caviller proceeds in our place and stead with some signify no more than for our good Why it 's impossible they should That which Christ suffered in our stead is for our Good to bear the Punishment of our sins to satisfy Divine Iustice was certainly for our good c. Therefore for our good because in our stead Reader is not Christs bearing the Punishment of our sins to satisfy Divine Justice suffering properly in our stead And is suffering properly in our stead and suffering in our stead in the Socinian Sense Viz. Improperly and not at all the same thing But Mr. R. said it 's impossible in our stead should signify any more than for our good I Answer That it is considered with respect to our concernment therein as it is a benefit designed for us but not to exclude its being in our place and stead which he fully asserts and without which we had been ruined for ever Is not Mans chief end to be happy in the Enjoyment of God And doth not Christs dying properly in our stead subserve that end Mr. Lob might better say Mr. R. denied that Christs dying in our stead was for Gods Glory to which our good is Subordinate than that he denied that Christ dyed properly in our stead because as to our own felicity it did no more than subserve it or was it for our hurt or could it be more beneficial to us than for our good for it 's only as to our benefit he applies the Words 3. Mr. Lob Represents Mr. R. to deny with the Socinians that Christs sufferings are a Proper Punishment for our Sins When Mr. R. doth most expressly assert that Christs sufferings were the Punishments of our Sins for satisfaction to the Vindicative Justice of God Mr. Lob p. 48. agreeably hereto the Socinians trifling in a wretched Sense and rejecting of Phrases to make Christs sufferings not penal my Brother as he rejects the Phrases of sustaining the Person of Sinners and puts an unsound Sense on Christs suffering in our place and stead so that word answering the obligation of the Violated Law which was in the first Paper to make it evident that we esteemed Christs sufferings to be proper Punishments is rejected as what cannot in my Brothers Opinion bear a sound Sense This charge that Mr. R. denies Christs sufferings to be Punishments he imposeth in very many Pages Whereas Mr. R. saith p. 35. Christ did bear the Punishment of our
this he saith he pretended not to give a Narrative of the whole And yet Rep. p. 4. The difference hitherto hath been about the satisfaction of Christ. And in his Remarks oft leads his Reader to Judge we never had any other Controversy Indeed his Present State of difference was such a Piece of Art as he thought it so much pity to spoil it by a fuller Account that their violation of the Agreement in Doctrines 1692. He Answers only with a groan Their refusal of the Paper 1694. Because a disowning of sundry Antinomian Errors was added he excuseth no better than by an abrupt Dismiss after a Suggestion that nothing had been added but that about Repentance which is not true and yet this being in the Assemblies Words he impeacheth the Refusers as insincere in subscribing this in the Assemblies Confessio● and yet refusing it in that Paper To the horrid Passages out of his Brethren's Books collected to justifie a Demand of Satisfaction and a fit Antidote when he formed their Creeds with him 't is enough they were not sent to P. H. as if it matter'd not that he knew they were in their Books and before the united Ministers What saith he to Mr. R.'s Citations out of my Book fully asserting Christ's Satisfaction ne 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 quidem but caluminates still where states he a fair Question with the R Instead of that he pursues a Logomachy cites Authors to prove what Mr. R. pleads for and to confute what his Party reckons he defends yea what himself oft-times asserts Phrases he tires when the Sense is so disregarded that I would thank him to shew one Error of Mr. R. unless by gross wresting of his Words he once remarketh or one Doctrinal Truth he pretends to prove which Mr. R. hath not expresly own'd Upon the whole the Cause of the Rebuke is still unhurt otherwise than as its Author is pelted with his smoothest Brothers rotten Eggs such as not having a Grain of Sense heretical false delirous Changeling and what not But as for the Cause of the Report the Defendant hath wisely got that into a Wood in Hopes his Party shall not find it 's dead by the Rebukers Wounds 3. I 'll foretell from what I already hear and see how several sorts are likely to judge and stand affected to his Performance His Disciples may say All we have learned is even this A Change of Persons and Christs suffering in our Person if explained to a sound Sense are no more than Christ's suffering properly in our stead And yet Christ's suffering properly in our stead is not so much a Change of Persons or Suffering in our Person But that we mnst call them Socinians who hold Christ suffered in our stead if they will omit any of our Masters other Phrases altho they own the Sense of all The Sagacious Crispians if any such will say he hath betrayed our Cause yea himself condemns it and anon espouseth it But one good turn is done he hath toiled hard to spoil what is a real Confutation of it The factious Biggots may glory whatever becomes of Truth yet it 's worth our Contribution that he has spoiled all Hopes of that ill thing Union and Peace too and put the Vnited Ministers to groan we are abused and as far as this Pacificator can influence our Breaches shall still be wider They whom he remarked saying The Dissenters differ about they know not what will loudly boast we now see with a witness even the onely Man of close study that no Man can guess what it is about They who used to trust to Quotations from Authors must grow suspicious and resolve always to examine Hard Students some such there are besides Mr. L. will dread a Common place Book of Phrases least they should divert them from their more important Sense and confound themselves to the distracting of the Church and torment of all Mankind It 's well if some of his reproached Preachers say not we study Things more than Words and yet Words more than to speak false English that we may strut in Bombastick Phrases and both to better purpose than our assuming Dictator who brands us with Ignorance and a Zeal for Populacy whilst his Gain by our more common Acceptance qualifies him for a sort of closer Study but in time we may become more Politique But which more affects me plain serious Christians with Grief will cry we know not what to think if the way to Heaven be thus perplexed and the Articles of our Faith so intricate as these heaps of Obscure Phrases represent them The Profane are tempted to scoff at Religion as a wordy Noise and our Enemies well pleased to see us destroy each other by dividing and this for what exposeth us as much to Contempt as Ruine How much should we pray for Godly sincerity in our appeals to God and Serviceableness to a common good in our pretended pleadings for Truth And not still amuse Men as Mr. Lob hath done by ● Book the Substance whereof is no more than a Misrepresentation of the R's words that the Reader may believe him an Heretick in grain when the plain sense of his Expression seems oft contended for by Mr. Lob. Nor can people propose a benefit by multiplied Quotations of a Phrase when the Authors who use it design by that Phrase no more than Mr. R. grants And his Exception is nor ●gainst their sense of that Phrase but against impo●●●● it is a Term of Union after the Crispians and Mr. Lob so perverted it FINIS