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A91796 Plain dealing: or the unvailing of the opposers of the present government and governors. In answer of several things affirmed by Mr. Vavasor Powell and others: shewing, 1. That there is no reason to oppose or finde fault with the present government. 2. That there is not any scripture that doth justifie their opposing the present government. 3. That the word of God is for the present government and governors, and requireth us to own them and to be subject to them. 4. That the holy scriptures are against the opposition that is made against the present government and governors. 5. Reasons to prove that his highnesse Oliver Cromwell and the right honourable his councel ought to execute the legislative power. / By Samuel Richardson. Richardson, Samuel, fl. 1643-1658. 1653 (1653) Wing R1412; Thomason E865_3; ESTC R207618 24,991 24

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the lesse to love and esteem Iesus Christ because he and his parents were very poor that there was no room for such poor people in the inne but in a stable fitter for a horse then a family though poor Is there any reason to bring that for a charge against a chief Governour that is not true and if true is no fault at all poverty is none what reason is there to gratifie and please the enemis of God to cause them to rejoyce and to pour contempt upon the way of God for exalting them of low degree Love covers a multitude of sins 1 Pet. 4. 8. and want of love makes those sins that are none 21. There was a book printed called a Declaration of Members of severall Churches and a number of names as of one congregation and there was not one of that congregation signed it this I can prove is not this a way of lying and dissimulation Saith the Lord I am against them that cause my people to erre by their lies they shall not profit Ier 33. 32. Thus I have given you a proof of some of the evils ye are carryed away with and that which is here said is enough to prove that death and destruction is in your paths you are fallen you are fallen and almost if not altogether become one in opposing with those that God hath sufficiently witnessed against know that God is for us and that ye sight against God therefore ye cannot prosper his Highnesse may say to each of you Forbear thee from medling with God who is with me that he destroy thee not 2 Chron. 35. 21 22. I be seech you consider what I say and weigh it in the sight of God with a calm and Christian spirit and harden not your necks against the truth as you will answer it to the great Iudge Oh that you would lie down in the dust and acknowledge your iniquity and return unto God by unfaigned repentance hast to do it lest Gods fury break forth like fire upon you and there be no quenching your return would rejoyce us much as being welwishers to your souls and bodies though I must declare against your sins designs and way because ye have call an odium upon all the people of God that do own and submit to the present Government charged us with hypocrisie and dissimulation and by your so doing ye cast an odium upon the Name of Christ which we professe your lies are manifest your carriage is not in meeknesse nor are your souls possessed with patience ye are murmuters and complainers without cause you father your words and actions in opposing to be of God and from the holy Spirit of God which is a blaspheming of the Spirit of God you are very unjust and unreasonable to charge his Highnesse so deeply and falsly because you never did nor can prove what you say to be true Are ye so greatly deluded to think that such preaches and printings as ye make against the Government and Governors will do any good except only to discover your madnesse and folly to all men I know you are great transgressors and disclaim all your opposition of the Government c. ye grieve the faithfull in that ye cause divisions and dissensions contrary to the doctrine ye have heard and learnt therefore we desire and warn all that fear the Lord and all others that desire their outward safety to withdraw from you and avoid you as those that by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple and are causers of divisions as Rom. 16. 17 18. and that ye by your opposition strengthen the hands of the wicked and harden the late Kings party in their evill opposing and ye approve and justifie and own by your practise all the opposition that hath been made against the people of God and so are partakers of their sin and are liable to their punishments submit to God seek meeknesse consider Rom. 14. 19. Jam. 3. 18. if ye will not desist your wilfulnesse in opposing will prove your sorrow if not your ruine And for the late Kings party I desire they would consider that God hath witnessed against them in the destruction and ruine of the late King and many of them some say there hath been slain about eight hundred thousand in the late vvar in the three nations to whom must all this bloud be laid but upon them which begun the war and that was the late King and those that sided with him Say not he had cause to do that he did what ever the cause was he should not have begun a war and God hath judged him for it they have had many times the advantage of us in number and otherwise there hath been of their side many that have not wanted skill nor will resolution nor courage they have had severall times plain field battels and several times tryed for it from whence is it that they have so often lost the day and have not prevailed nor can prevail it is plain enough expressed I would they could see it in Jer. 1. 19. its time for them to consider that they have had multitudes of plots and devices and all fruitlesse know ye not that many of you have been destroyed and ruined and if ye will still fight against God it will be your ruine also if ye are willing to be destroyed yet pity your wives and little ones who are like to suffer and perish by your ruine for their and your own good cease opposing and plotting I beseech you submit to God Psal. 66. 3. and be preserved if ye oppose ye perish they that have thought otherwise have been often deceived Do ye not see the more ye oppose the worse ye are for now ye have lesse favour and more charged then afore yet do not think that ye are too hardly dealt with by his Highnesse late proclamation c. he dealt too kindely and friendly with you till be did see that you were the worse for kindnesse and that the requitall ye gave him was to seek his life and our ruine for which ye deserve to die therefore ye may be content and glad ye scape as ye do it is not fit to let you have a way and means to nourish you and inable you to seek our ruine If ye will be quiet and peaceable favour will be given you that you may live and your families I fear you would hardly extend that favour to us if you were in our condition and we in yours Seeing God hath so often witnessed against you be at last afraid of his tokens as Psal. 65. 8. before it be too late I advise you for your good it will be well for you if God will give you eyes to see it and hearts to receive it I say to all that oppose the present Government and Governors why are ye so offended at his Government what evill hath he done and why are ye so offended at his Highnesse what hath he done whom
where could ye expect so great liberty as the people of God now enjoy but in and by this Government 4. There is no ground to beleeve that the people of this Nation would ever have given us this freedome or that any Parliament chosen by them would ever give us this freedome seeing the Ministers and Magistrate cannot see that the bond betwixt Magistrate and people is essentially civill I see therefore no way to enjoy this freedome but from God in this way therefore we should as gladly accept of it as good newes from a far countrey In as much as 5. This Government preserveth the lives of the Saints and others if our nation and other nations had had this government the people of God should not have been so abused as they have been they have been greatly tortured and put to death some put into a red hot Iron chair others torn with wilde horses some starved devoured of beasts cast into mines beheaded put into cold ponds all night in winter a hundred of them have died with cold and hunger upon a mountain in a night stripes scourgings stonings plates of Iron burning hot dungeons wracks stranglings prisons teeth of beasts gridirons gibbets gallowes tossings upon horns of buls drowning whipt roasted hanged burnt choaked putting out their eyes sawn asunder and crucified and many other tortures one of which one would not chuse to suffer for a world though all that can be inflicted are not to be refused for Christ in one day two thousand Christians have been put to death and seventeen thousand in one moneth sixteen thousand were martyred in Persia two thousand burned together in a Church in Arabia 6666 souldiers suffered for Christ and in France Spain and Britain rivers have been coloured with the bloud of Christians all the Apostles of Jesus Christ were put to death except John he was banished to Patmus and put into a tun of scolding oyle yet did live the Apostle James the son of Zebede martyred James the son of Alpheus stoned James the brother of our Lord stoned to death Bartholomew beheaded Matthias stoned and beheaded Thomas slain with a dart Peter and Andrew were crucified Matthew martyred with a spear Philip crucified and stoned Mark burned Paul beheaded under Nero Peter stoned Simon Zelot crucified in Britain and all for Religion three Papists and three Protestants died in Smithfield in one day in Henry the 8. daies they were carried thither two upon a hurdle one a Papist and one a Protestant if we esteem not freedome from these miseries a great mercy our eyes are blinded and our hearts are hardned we need to remember and consider these things that we may know what we enjoy and that this present Government prevents these miseries and therefore God doth know that I do believe the present Government is the most excellent and blessed civil Government that ever England did enjoy therefore I say in answer to Mr. Powell it 's evident they were well advised that framed and accepted it and there was sufficient cause to warrant the alteration of the former this Government is worth as much as our lives are worth What good will all this world do me if I am to be hanged for an Heretick the best of the people of God have in all ages been esteemed and called so freedome from corporal punishments in matters meerly religious is one of the greatest outward blessings we can enjoy 6. This Government in the instrument provides to make sure this blessed liberty for the future that no Parliament shall meddle with this our liberty without which we should have been at a great uncertainty for if one Parliament or Governour had given us this freedome the next might have stripped us of it and so have put us or ours into as bad a condition as ever we were under the Bishops tyranny 7. This liberty in Religion preserves the lives of men in preventing wars for the most of the wars in the world have been occasioned for Religion Secondly We have the testimony of many that were unsatisfied that now upon further consideration do witnesse with us that there is no reason to oppose the Government some that are not satisfied have wearied themselves and see they can do no good of it resolve to be quiet and to minde their own businesse so that the opposition doth not increase but decrease and the strength of opposers groweth weaker and weaker Thirdly The words and actions of the greatest opposers of the present Government declare that they want a reason for their opposing it 1. Because they finde fault and expresse great dislike but do not shew us a Reason if they had any sure they would let us see it 2. Because they have had several meetings in private with themselves and they cannot agree what to have if they could have their own desires by which it appears they are to seek of a reason of their opposition if it were not so they would shew reason against that they oppose and shew a more excellent way with reasons to prove it so which they have not done nor can do 3. Because they shun and refuse to examine and debate the difference with us when desired which shewes they are not provided with a Reason for their practise as those that have not studied the point and also it shewes that their opposition is not from a greater light but from discontent being disappointed and crossed they complain and beget complainers that complain at they know not what Fourthly Their words want reason to say a man do not do all he should therefore the government is unlawfull or he doth somethings amisse therefore he is no lawfull Governour if there is reason in this reasoning it is above my Reason If I promise to pay a sum of money in silver and I pay it in gold is there any reason to call me deceiver and to charge me of breach of promise covenants and ingagements it will appear the cause in difference is so and that this Government is a fulfilling of their promises and in that way or in a better Is there any reason to charge his Highnesse with having the Government in one single person contrary to promise when there is no such thing for the Government in the Instrument is in three estates and if it were only in him and his Councel they are more then one single person Is there any reason to finde fault with the title of Protector seeing the word Saviours is as great and the word Gods is greater I said ye are gods Psal. 82. 6. I did not think it lawfull to give the title of Protector to any man and so I said to his Highnesse and therefore I left out that word in my late apologie since I did see that my ignorance was the cause of that mistake and the former place and Mr. John Mores observation on Neh. 9. 27. did satisfie me and may satisfie any in this doubt Is there any reason to beleeve that those