Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	call_v	holy_a	lord_n	1,489	5	3.6721	3	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A80622	The grounds and ends of the baptisme of the children of the faithfull. Opened in a familiar discourse by way of a dialogue, or brotherly conference. / By the learned and faithfull minister of Christ, John Cotton, teacher of the Church of Boston in New-England.	Cotton, John, 1584-1652.; Goodwin, Thomas, 1600-1680.	1646 (1646)	Wing C6436; Thomason E356_16; ESTC R201141	171,314	214

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kingdom_n under_o the_o whole_a heaven_n shall_v be_v give_v to_o the_o people_n of_o the_o saint_n of_o the_o most_o high_a a_o second_o thing_n which_o i_o will_v put_v you_o in_o mind_n of_o which_o also_o have_v be_v mention_v above_o be_v that_o we_o do_v not_o stand_v upon_o nationall_n jewish_a privilege_n but_o upon_o the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n which_o be_v give_v with_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o he_o and_o his_o seed_n before_o any_o of_o the_o jew_n and_o israelite_n be_v bear_v when_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n be_v consider_v rather_o as_o a_o domestical_a church_n than_o a_o as_o national_a and_o then_o the_o covenant_n be_v give_v to_o he_o as_o walk_v before_o god_n in_o uprightness_n of_o heart_n gen._n 17.1.7_o which_o can_v be_v without_o faith_n and_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v give_v he_o as_o a_o sign_n and_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n rom._n 4.11_o and_o both_o covenant_n and_o seal_n be_v give_v to_o his_o infant_n seed_n 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