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B04178 The Lord Bishop of Londonderry's case: with some reasons humbly offered to the consideration of the Lords in England, to induce their lordships not to take cognizance of an appeal lately brought before them by the Society of Assistants in London for Ulster in Ireland, against an order of the House of Lords in Ireland, made the last sessions of Parliament there. Sloane, James.; Annesley, Francis, fl. 1707.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Lords. 1698 (1698) Wing L3041; ESTC R180058 6,739 4

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