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A69269
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The speech of the Lord Chancellor of England, in the Eschequer Chamber, touching the post-nati
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Egerton, Thomas, Sir, 1540?-1617.
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STC 7540.5; ESTC S100270
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interpretari_fw-la cvius_fw-la est_fw-la condere_fw-la and_o britton_n in_o the_o time_n of_o king_n ed._n 1._o write_v as_o much_o in_o effect_n so_o as_o now_o if_o this_o question_n seem_v difficult_a that_o neither_o direct_a law_n nor_o example_n &_o precedent_n nor_o application_n of_o like_a case_n nor_o discourse_n of_o reason_n nor_o the_o grave_a opinion_n of_o the_o learned_a and_o reverend_a judge_n can_v resolve_v it_o here_o be_v a_o true_a and_o certain_a rule_n how_o both_o by_o the_o civil_a law_n and_o the_o ancient_a common_a law_n of_o england_n it_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v decide_v that_o be_v by_o sentence_n of_o the_o most_o religious_a learned_a and_o judicious_a king_n that_o ever_o this_o kingdom_n or_o island_n have_v but_o this_o case_n be_v so_o clear_a as_o this_o need_v not_o at_o all_o and_o in_o this_o i_o will_v not_o be_v misunderstoode_a as_o though_o i_o speak_v of_o make_v of_o new_a law_n or_o of_o alter_v the_o law_n now_o stand_v i_o 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