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A03885 A summary of controuersies Wherein are briefly treated the cheefe questions of diuinity, now a dayes in dispute betweene Catholikes & protestants: especially out of the holy Scripture. Written in Latin by the R. Father, Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by I.L. of the same Society. The I. tome, deuided into two controuersies.; Controversiarum epitomes. English Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 13998; ESTC S104309 167,262 458

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add_v also_o some_o other_o natural_a reason_n and_o perwasion_n that_o they_o may_v be_v convert_v for_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n in_o holy_a scripture_n which_o seem_v opposite_a to_o natural_a reason_n as_o the_o mysterye_n of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n incarnation_n &_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n 9_o nine_o there_o want_v last_o of_o all_o the_o ten_o property_n for_o there_o be_v nothing_o extant_a of_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n 10._o the_o holy_a scripture_n indeed_o be_v the_o ground_n and_o reason_n why_o we_o believe_v many_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o not_o the_o ground_n why_o we_o believe_v all_o moreover_o neither_o be_v it_o the_o first_o ground_n of_o all_o that_o we_o believe_v by_o it_o for_o the_o scripture_n itself_o be_v prove_v by_o some_o other_o more_o general_a ground_n to_o wit_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n wherefore_o the_o scripture_n be_v only_o a_o particular_a ground_n and_o not_o a_o general_a a_o mediate_a and_o not_o immediate_a a_o secondary_a and_o not_o the_o first_o and_o chief_a rule_n of_o faith_n chap._n four_o that_o the_o private_a or_o particular_a spirit_n of_o every_o one_o be_v not_o the_o ground_n or_o rule_v of_o faith_n that_o no_o private_a spirit_n of_o any_o can_v be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v far_o more_o evident_a by_o the_o same_o property_n now_o allege_v for_o none_o of_o these_o ten_o property_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o private_a spirit_n of_o every_o one_o that_o believe_v the_o which_o we_o declare_v by_o these_o argument_n 1._o first_o there_o want_v the_o foresay_a continuance_n for_o there_o be_v no_o private_a or_o particular_a person_n who_o have_v continue_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n or_o shall_v endure_v till_o the_o end_n thereof_o as_o faith_n have_v continue_v 2._o second_o there_o want_v truth_n because_o there_o be_v no_o private_a man_n to_o be_v find_v which_o can_v err_v and_o be_v deceive_v for_o as_o witness_v the_o apostle_n every_o man_n be_v 4._o rom._n 3._o v._n 4._o a_o liar_n 3._o three_o there_o want_v certainty_n in_o propose_v matter_n of_o faith_n unto_o we_o because_o none_o can_v be_v certain_a that_o any_o private_a person_n can_v have_v such_o a_o spirit_n yea_o even_o in_o our_o adversary_n judgement_n for_o the_o predestinate_a only_o in_o their_o opinion_n have_v this_o spirit_n even_o as_o they_o only_o in_o their_o judgment_n have_v the_o true_a faith_n but_o the_o predestinate_a be_v know_v to_o none_o but_o only_o to_o god_n according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n god_n know_v who_o be_v he_o the_o which_o caluin_n 2._o 2._o tim._n 2_o v._n 19_o cal._n l._n 4._o inst_z c._n 1._o sect_n 2._o express_o teach_v 4._o four_o the_o foresay_a strength_n and_o immutability_n be_v want_v for_o that_o a_o private_a man_n have_v not_o that_o strength_n and_o immutability_n of_o his_o doctrine_n our_o adversary_n themselves_o confess_v and_o experience_n teach_v we_o that_o they_o often_o time_n change_v their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o at_o diverse_a time_n they_o teach_v plain_a contrary_n yea_o they_o confess_v that_o this_o their_o private_a spirit_n be_v not_o permanent_a with_o they_o but_o often_o time_n leave_v and_o forsake_v they_o the_o which_o they_o prove_v out_o of_o that_o place_n of_o the_o 29._o or_o 30._o psalm_n the_o eight_o verse_n thou_o have_v turn_v thy_o face_n from_o i_o and_o i_o become_v finem_fw-la with_fw-mi disp_n paris_n a_o 1566._o in_o disp_n 1._o di●i_fw-la sub_fw-la finem_fw-la trouble_v for_o thus_o they_o affirm_v in_o that_o famous_a disputation_n have_v at_o paris_n anno_fw-la 1566._o 5._o five_o there_o want_v that_o fullness_n &_o sufficiency_n because_o no_o private_a man_n can_v define_v all_o point_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o many_o be_v define_v before_o he_o be_v bear_v against_o the_o ancient_a heretic_n and_o there_o will_v be_v many_o thing_n define_v in_o the_o church_n after_o his_o death_n assoon_o as_o there_o shall_v arise_v any_o new_a heresy_n 6._o six_o there_o want_v necessity_n for_o before_o there_o be_v any_o private_a man_n which_o now_o live_v there_o be_v true_a faith_n and_o the_o same_o faith_n will_v continue_v after_o he_o be_v dead_a 7._o seaventh_o there_o want_v the_o seven_o property_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o by_o this_o private_a spirit_n a_o christian_a can_v be_v distinguish_v from_o a_o infidel_n but_o in_o truth_n all_o heretic_n do_v brag_v and_o boast_v that_o they_o have_v this_o private_a spirit_n whereas_o notwithstanding_o one_o condemn_v or_o rather_o damn_v another_o 8._o eight_o there_o want_v the_o eight_o property_n for_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v certain_o deduce_v out_o of_o this_o private_a spirit_n only_o see_v that_o it_o be_v oftentimes_o uncertain_a and_o deceitful_a 9_o nine_o there_o want_v the_o nine_o property_n for_o it_o be_v a_o ridiculous_a thing_n for_o one_o to_o endeavour_v to_o convert_v a_o infidel_n to_o the_o faith_n by_o brag_v only_o that_o he_o have_v this_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o none_o can_v either_o see_v or_o understand_v 10._o ten_o there_o want_v the_o ten_o and_o last_o property_n because_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n make_v of_o this_o private_a and_o particular_a spirit_n in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n 11._o and_o the_o true_a spirit_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v in_o every_o faithful_a soul_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n speak_v when_o he_o say_v that_o we_o have_v the_o spirit_n of_o say_v be_v not_o the_o 13._o 2._o cor._n 4._o v._n 13._o ground_n or_o reason_n of_o faith_n we_o here_o speak_v of_o but_o it_o be_v the_o help_n of_o god_n or_o the_o supernatural_a gift_n of_o faith_n whereby_o our_o understanding_n be_v help_v to_o believe_v and_o it_o be_v in_o regard_n of_o our_o understanding_n as_o it_o be_v the_o efficient_a cause_n of_o the_o act_n of_o faith_n but_o we_o speak_v in_o this_o place_n of_o the_o formal_a cause_n or_o reason_n of_o faith_n as_o it_o appertain_v to_o the_o object_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o by_o which_o we_o know_v what_o be_v the_o true_a reveal_v word_n of_o god_n and_o what_o be_v not_o for_o albeit_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o the_o gift_n of_o faith_n move_v we_o to_o believe_v yet_o they_o do_v not_o rash_o move_v we_o without_o any_o reason_n or_o ground_n 4._o eccles_n 19_o v._n 4._o for_o he_o as_o the_o wise_a man_n say_v who_o believe_v quick_o be_v light_n of_o hart_n but_o with_o a_o solid_a and_o sure_a ground_n according_a to_o those_o word_n of_o 1._o 1._o joan._n 4._o v._n 1._o s._n john_n do_v not_o dear_o belove_v believe_v every_o spirit_n but_o prove_v the_o spirit_n whether_o they_o be_v of_o god_n but_o this_o proof_n and_o trial_n necessary_o require_v some_o good_a reason_n and_o sure_a ground_n whereof_o we_o will_v speak_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n 12._o last_o it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v that_o we_o do_v here_o dis●ute_v of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n as_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o all_o to_o attain_v their_o eternal_a salvation_n &_o not_o of_o the_o special_a faith_n of_o one_o or_o other_o the_o which_o we_o know_v very_o well_o may_v arise_v or_o proceed_v from_o some_o particular_a or_o extraordinary_a revelation_n of_o god_n but_o this_o be_v not_o the_o catholic_a faith_n not_o a_o ordinary_a but_o a_o extraordinary_a faith_n not_o to_o be_v admit_v general_o of_o all_o till_o it_o be_v approve_v and_o receyve_v by_o the_o church_n as_o present_o we_o will_v declare_v more_o at_o large_a chap._n v._o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v the_o ground_n or_o rule_v of_o our_o faith_n that_o the_o catholic_a and_o visible_a church_n be_v the_o most_o solid_a and_o true_a ground_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v manifest_o prove_v by_o the_o former_a property_n of_o the_o ground_n of_o faith_n for_o all_o those_o ten_o property_n do_v very_o well_o agree_v to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o nothing_o else_o 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9_o tertul._n the_o penitent_a c._n 9_o priest_n and_o to_o kneel_v to_o the_o dear_o belove_a of_o god_n which_o be_v nothing_o ●l●_n but_o kneel_v down_o to_o adore_v and_o the_o same_o tertullian_n else_o where_o say_v that_o they_o be_v 13._o tertul._n de_fw-fr pudicit_fw-la c._n 13._o wont_a to_o lick_v up_o the_o footstep_n of_o every_o one_o that_o past_a where_o he_o seem_v to_o allude_v to_o those_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n isay_n cite_v 4._o isa_n 49._o v._n 23._o isa_n 60._o v._n 4._o a_o little_a above_o they_o shall_v lick_v up_o the_o dust_n of_o thy_o foot_n and_o adore_v the_o step_n of_o thy_o foot_n now_o if_o it_o be_v so_o that_o they_o lick_v the_o footestepe●_n of_o all_o christian_n much_o more_o doubtless_o the_o footstep_n of_o the_o supreme_a bishop_n who_o receive_v they_o into_o the_o church_n and_o who_o at_o that_o time_n be_v call_v the_o bless_a pope_n as_o the_o same_o tertullian_n witness_v 11._o neither_o do_v this_o adoration_n derogate_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o honour_n of_o god_n or_o christ_n but_o rather_o much_o more_o illustrate_v and_o set_v it_o forth_o for_o this_o honour_n be_v exhibit_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n not_o for_o his_o own_o holiness_n or_o any_o other_o quality_n with_o which_o he_o be_v adorn_v as_o a_o private_a person_n but_o only_o for_o that_o authority_n and_o spiritual_a power_n which_o he_o receive_v from_o christ_n and_o which_o indeed_o proper_o appertain_v to_o god_n and_o to_o christ_n and_o therefore_o in_o he_o and_o by_o he_o christ_n who_o person_n he_o represent_v be_v honour_v and_o adore_v according_a to_o those_o word_n of_o tertullian_n when_o cero_o tertul._n the_o penitent_a cero_o therefore_o say_v he_o thou_o stretche_v thyself_o forth_o to_o the_o knee_n of_o thy_o brethren_n thou_o lay_v hold_v on_o christ_n and_o make_v thy_o supplication_n to_o christ_n and_o this_o caluin_n himself_o by_o the_o force_n of_o truth_n confess_v when_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o church_n for_o expound_v those_o word_n of_o the_o prophet_n isay_n they_o shall_v adore_v the_o step_n of_o thy_o foot_n or_o as_o he_o translate_v they_o shall_v bow_v themselves_o down_o to_o the_o plant_n of_o thy_o foot_n thus_o he_o write_v here_o some_o man_n 14._o calu_n in_o c._n 60._o matth._n v._o 14._o will_v ask_v whether_o this_o honour_n of_o which_o the_o prophet_n speak_v be_v not_o too_o much_o and_o great_a then_o be_v to_o be_v exhibit_v to_o the_o church_n for_o to_o how_o ourselves_o down_n and_o prostrate_v ourselves_o be_v sign_n of_o that_o honour_n which_o no_o man_n ought_v to_o admit_v i_o answer_v this_o honour_n be_v not_o exhibit_v to_o the_o member_n but_o to_o the_o head_n to_o wit_n christ_n who_o be_v adore_v in_o the_o church_n so_o caluin_n which_o also_o those_o word_n of_o god_n in_o the_o apocalyps_n manifest_o declare_v to_o be_v true_a i_o will_v make_v they_o adore_v thou_o before_o thy_o foot_n and_o they_o shall_v know_v that_o i_o have_v love_v thou_o for_o therefore_o be_v this_o honour_n exhibit_v to_o the_o supreme_a bishop_n because_o god_n have_v so_o exalt_v the_o roman_a sea_n and_o b●ene_v so_o liberal_a towards_o it_o which_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o exceed_v great_a love_n and_o here_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o same_o veneration_n be_v exhibit_v to_o all_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o well_o to_o the_o bad_a as_o to_o the_o good_a for_o they_o be_v not_o honour_v for_o their_o own_o goodness_n but_o for_o the_o office_n which_o christ_n bestow_v upon_o they_o as_o also_o they_o be_v call_v holy_a and_o most_o holy_a not_o for_o their_o 15._o act._n 28._o v._n 15._o own_o personal_a holiness_n but_o for_o the_o holiness_n of_o christ_n who_o person_n and_o place_n they_o sustain_v upon_o earth_n and_o for_o the_o holiness_n of_o the_o office_n which_o they_o receive_v from_o god_n even_o as_o s._n paul_n call_v festus_n precedent_n of_o jury_n very_o good_a not_o for_o any_o goodness_n of_o his_o 13._o baron_fw-fr tun_n 1._o anno_fw-la 58._o num_fw-la 13._o own_o for_o he_o be_v a_o infidel_n and_o a_o wicked_a man_n but_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o office_n for_o so_o the_o precedent_n of_o pronince_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v style_v as_o well_o note_v baronius_n 12._o moreover_o whereas_o in_o the_o scripture_n foot_n signify_v divine_a mission_n and_o vocation_n which_o be_v most_o ample_a in_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n no_o marvel_n 15._o rom._n 10._o v._n 15._o if_o great_a veneration_n be_v exhibit_v to_o his_o foot_n &_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o there_o be_v a_o cross_n upon_o his_o shoe_n which_o all_o kiss_n to_o give_v we_o to_o understand_v that_o the_o honour_n be_v not_o exhibit_v to_o he_o but_o to_o christ_n crucify_v who_o he_o represent_v 13._o to_o conclude_v here_o hence_o be_v easy_o solue_v that_o which_o our_o object_n of_o s._n peter_n refuse_v to_o be_v adore_v by_o corneleus_fw-la 26._o act._n 10._o v._n 25._o &_o 26._o the_o centurion_n for_o cornelius_n adore_v not_o s._n peter_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n who_o vicar_n he_o be_v but_o in_o respect_n of_o himself_o who_o he_o take_v to_o be_v some_o god_n as_o do_v the_o licaonian_o victorij_fw-la act._n 10._o v._n 10._o hieron_n advers_a vigil_n ep_v 53._o n._n 12._o iuxta_fw-la edit_fw-la marian_n victorij_fw-la think_v of_o paul_n &_o barnabas_n so_o s._n hierome_n or_o sure_o they_o think_v peter_n to_o be_v more_o they_o a_o man_n as_o manifest_o appare_v by_o s._n peter_n answer_n arise_v for_o i_o also_o be_o a_o man_n &_o therefore_o cornelius_n be_v to_o be_v admonish_v &_o correct_v for_o adoration_n be_v either_o good_a or_o bad_a according_a to_o the_o cause_n or_o reason_n for_o which_o it_o be_v exhibit_v now_o the_o cause_n for_o which_o catholic_n exhibit_v the_o same_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v very_o good_a to_o wit_n the_o excellent_a power_n of_o christ_n or_o rather_o christ_n himself_o govern_v &_o rule_v his_o church_n 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