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A51572	The Messias of the Christians and the Jewes held forth in a discourse between a Christian, and a Iew obstinately adhering to his strange opinions, & the forced interpretations of scripture, wherein Christ the true savior of the whole world is described from the prophets and likewise that false and counterfeited Messias of the Jewes, who in vaine is expected by that nation to this very day, is discovered / written first in Hebrew, but now rendered into English by Paul Isaiah, a Jew born, but now a converted and baptized Christian.	Münster, Sebastian, 1489-1552.; Eliazar Bar-Isajah.	1655 (1655)	Wing M3039A; ESTC R42183	58,523	257

THE MESSIAS OF THE Christians and the Iewes Held forth in a Discourse between a Christian and a Iew obstinately adhering to his strange opinions the forced interpretations of Scripture Wherein Christ the true Savior of the whole world is described from the Prophets and likewise that false and counterfeited Messias of the Jewes who in vaine is expected by that Nation to this very day is discovered Written first in Hebréw but now rendered into English by PAUL ISAIAH a Jew born but now a converted and baptized Christian Psal. 78.37 For their heart was not right with him neither were they stedfast in his Covenant Psal. 119.80 Let my heart be sound in thy statutes that I be not ashamed London Printed by William Hunt 1655. To the Reverend and Learned Mr Richard Parr Minister of the Gospell at Camberwell Paul Isaiah a converted Jew wisheth all happinesse of body and soule both in this life and the next through Christ Jesus our Lord Reverend Sir THE many favours which I have received from you as to the refreshing of body with the outward things of this life and to the comforting of my soul with your most Christian instructions and spirituall consolations have emboldened me thus to returne you my thanks and to make publick Testimony unto the world how much I am obliged to you and I hope I shall not doe injury to your goodnesse by openly publishing my gratitude as also by craving your further countenance towards me and my poor endeavours that this discourse between a Christian and a Jew written by the greatly learned Sebastian Munster may goe abroad under your name The discourse was first written by him in the Hebrew Tongue wch is a language wherein I know you had rather read it then in my Englsh. But since my dear and blessed Savior has been gratiously pleased to cal me into his Vineyard I have resolved by his grace not to be idle in it but shall most gladly set my selfe to any worke whereby I may advantage the Christian cause though it bee but by knocking a pinne into the Building or by bringing a little Goats haire to furnish the Ark They that could not offer a Lamb were accepted if they brought only a Pigeon And I read in the Holy Gospell where Christ commended the widow that gave into the Treasury but two Mites And as for my selfe I hope I shal not be rejected though my present worke bee onely a Translation wherein yet I would be very gladly emploied might I be so happy as to be acquainted by your learned selfe or some others with what books are written in Hebrew which would bee most usefull in the Christian Church by being translated into English For as in former times the Gibeonites lived among my Countrie men the Jewes as hewers of wood and drawers of water so I that am a Jew by birth though now by God's grace a Christian doe desire to live and be serviceable to the Christian Church though it bee by performing the meanest offices since King David himself thought it would no way disparage him to be a dore-keeper in God's house The Lord of his great mercie preserve the whole Church and add dailie unto it even from among my native Countrie men the Jewes such as shall bee saved which is the dailie praier of him who Honours you and begs your favourable interpretation of this his presumption Reverend Sir Your most bounden poor Servant in Christ Jesus PAUL ISAIAH To the Christian Reader Christian Reader And blessed bee the Father of our Lord Iesus Christ who hath made that consanguinity between us through the bloud of his Sonne that I can now say My deare Christian brother AFter that it had pleased God who separated mee from my mothers womb and called me by his grace to reveale his Sonne in me that I might obey that Gospell which once I disobeyed and that I began an openly to make profession of the Christian faith I met with continuall opposition from those of my Countrymen who have yet their minds blinded and the vaile remaining upon their hearts untaken away having experimentally found the words of our Saviour true If any man will come after me let him deny himselfe and take up his crosse and follow mee St Mat. 16.24 While I lived among my Countrymen the Iewes and did communicate with them in the Iewish Religion it was my great sinne and unhappinesse as it was likewise theirs to be eager against the Truth of the Gospell And though wee daily read the Prophets in the reading whereof I have learned this excellent Lesson since I became a Christian viz. That we do then understand the Prophets aright when we find Christ in them But when I read them formerly in the Synagogues there was such a thick mist before our eies and our fore-fathers wooll had so stopt our eares that wee would neither see nor heare any thing concerning Christ much lesse would wee endure to heare that any of the holy Prophets had prophecied against us as such who rejected the true Messias in him our salvation So that we might be truly compared to a blind man holding a looking Glasse before him wherein though the blinde man cannot see his owne face yet the standers by can easily discerne whose face it is which is represented in the glasse And here I could wish it were no more with my Country men than a mist before their eies and wooll in their eares but there is likewise a stone a flint stone in their hearts which if the Christian Magistrates among whom they live did not keep a strict watch over them would soon be in their hands to stone Christ to death were he againe in their reach and likewise to stone all such who professe his name and expect salvation in his blood And though perhaps there may not be now in England any great numbers of professed Iewes some to my owne knowledge there are who have their synagogues and there exercise Iudaisme Yet they who live here as often as they are bound to use their office of Prayer which is twice a day so often are they bound to blaspheme Christ and to curse him and all true Christians which beleeve in him To make evident proof whereof I have now by mee the very forms of Prayer in Hebrew which are injoined them to make use of And which I should have translated into English but that I suppose such horrid blasphemies will doe best being concealed in a language that is here knowne only to the Learned then if they should bee made common by being translated for every vulgar eye Meane while I have here adventured to bee a Translator of a safer worke and upon better Termes It is a discourse as thou seest between a Iew and a Christian written at first in Hebrew by a greatly learned Author the Learned Munster who was himselfe a Translator but of the best worke in the world the Holy Bible In this discourse thou wilt meet with

for for ever sometimes for a long time and sometimes for a short time as it is in that place thy name shall no more be called Iacob but Israel shall be thy name and yet a little after in the same place he is thrice called Iacob So in the book of Samuell it is said the Philistines came no more into the bounds of Israel who neverthelesse came into the land of Israel after the death of Samuell So it is said here there shall be war no more that is there shall not be war at that time when the Messias shall come and shal be born as it was in the time of Augustus the Emperour when our Christ was born in great peace that men then might have broke and turned their swords into plow-shares and their spears into pruning hooks if they would for that manner of speaking is used by the Prophets Iew The fourth is also expressed by the Prophets That the wolfe and the lamb shall feed together and the lyon shall eat straw like the oxe and the suckling child shall play upon the whole of the aspe but these creatures are now hurtfull from the daies of old Christian I will answer you presently concerning this prophecy Iew The fifth is this the land of Sodome shall bee rebuilt as it was from the beginning seeing it is thus written And I will bring back the captivity of Edom and his villages For from the beginning the waters of Sodom were sweet and watering the Land as it is written And Lot lifted up his eies and saw all the plaine of Iordan which was watered every where But now to this day those waters are dryed up and salt Behold all these consolations we yet expect shal be God grant that they may come speedily in our daies Amen Selah Christian We have far digrest from our first discourse when we began to speak of the war of Gog and Magog Now therefore tell me what shall bee after that war Iew In those daies all men shall bee busied in wisedome to know the Lord as it is written The earth shall bee filled with the knowledge of the Lord Then that which Ieremie saith shall be fulfilled A voice of joy and a voice of gladnesse shall be and all shall say confesse to the Lord of Hosts because the Lord is good for his mercy endureth for ever and they shall bring an oblation for thanksgiving into the house of the Lord He doth not say they shall bring an oblation for sinne and for iniquity because in that time wicked men and sinners shall not bee among them but all shal know the Lord Hence it is that our Rabbies have said all oblations shall be made void in the last times except the oblation of thanksgiving Moreover in those daies they shall say no more the fathers have eaten sowre grapes and the childrens teeth are set on edge because then sinners shall bee cut off neither those that sin at that time shall commit any great sin then the people shall know that GOD is King over all neither is there another besides him and they shall come to Ierusalem to learn the judgements of God and his lawes even as he saith come and let us goe up to the mount of the Lord to the house of the God of Iacob and he will teach us his waies and we will walke in his paths for the Law shall goe forth from Zion and the word of the Lord from Ierusalem He shall judge among the Nations and shall rebuke many people and they shall beat their swords into plow-shares and their speares into pruning hooks The Prophet speaks here of the Messias for if war shall be raised among the Gentiles or questions arise they shall come to judgement before the King Messias who shall be Lord of all the people and hee shall reprove them and shall say to him who shall be found guilty amend those faults which thou hast done against him who hath called thee to judgement And for this cause there shall not be war against people and people because the King Messias shall pacifie them neither shall they need instruments of warre but shall break them to make of them instruments of husbandry In that day the Lord shall bee exalted alone who shall cast out Idols universally And although Idols have ceased already among some people yet some are found in the East who worship Idols likewise they are truly counted among worshippers of Idols who bend their knees and make images But in the daies of the Messias Idols shall be wholly rooted out Christian At this day and from many yeares there are not neither have been idols in the world as I said above but all Nations worship one God neither do we Christians adore and worship images as you Iewes think neither doe we beleeve that any power is in images that they can bring us any help but some among us who professe themselves to bee Christians doe adore and worship our Christ before images as your fathers also formerly in the first house did adore and worship God before the Arke of the Sanctuary But let us leave these things or reserve them to another time for I desire to heare something from you concerning beasts which shall be in the time of your Messias Iew Concerning beasts you have it thus written The wolfe shall dwell with the lamb and the leopard shall lie down with the kid and the calfe and the young lion and the fatling together and a little child shall lead them and the cow and the beare shall feed their young ones shall lie downe together and the lyon shall eat straw like the oxe and the sucking child shall play on the hole of the aspes and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice den They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountaine for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea Here are some sayings that in the daies of the Messias the natures of living creatures and beasts shall be changed and they shall be as they were at the beginning of the creation and as in the Arke of Noah For if in the beginning of the creation a lyon had devoured a sheep one kinde of the creation had perished Christian What therefore did the lyon and other devouring creatures eat then who now eat flesh Iew I say if the lyon had eat the flesh of any beast the world had been deprived of that creature forsomuch as all creatures first were created in each sex male and female and no more neither could the devouring creatures sustain hunger until cattel which might be devoured had brought forth other individuals for the preservation of their kind therefore it was necessary that in the meane while they should eat the grass of the field untill devourable cattell were bred and brought forth then and after that their nature began

number 1335 be accomplisht Iew Some say that number is extended to the year of the world 6118 which is the 2367 year of Christ For first they counted 1290 daies to that time when they laid down the abomination of desolation after the destruction of the temple according to the words of Daniel and afterwards they began to number 1335 daies But they who went before us did not receive this supputation but every man laboured to finde out some account which might agree with their daies And after this manner thou shalt finde with our Rabbies of good memory many divers bounds which are al past for they were carefull to finde out some neere bound lest the common people should despaire because redemption was suspended Christian And so your Rabbies doe alway seduce you saying behold at this time the Messias shall come and when that that is past again they say at that time he shall come How will yee believe these lying words Consider you have no hope and salvation is deferred from you and God is departed from you and you have no consolation not a prophet nor vision therefore be converted acknowledge your Saviour and our Saviour our Lord Christ Iew Neither have wee had from the beginning of the second Temple a Prophet or vision but in those daies when the Messias shall begin to grow Then prophecies and visions shall be multiplied But at this time all vision and prophecie is sealed for the end of the vision of the Prophets hath respect wholly to the growing of the Messias Kingdome When hee shall come we shall have great consolations so that al the daies of our captivity shall bee counted as a little moment as it is written I have left thee a little moment and in great mercies I wil gather thee Christian Vision and prophecy is shut up from your eies but not from our eies for we are all taught of God and the mysteries of the Kingdome of God are revealed to us and if you also will believe in our Lord Christ you may enter into the Kingdome of God Iew Wee cannot beleeve in your Christ because hee was a Magician and all his miracles were wrought by the Magick Art and therefore he was judged to death as the Lord God taught us and because hee brake the Sabbath and said hee was a God therefore the Iewes slew him Christian Hold your peace knave and doe not so reproach our Saviour but if you will at another time I will come to you that wee may speake more of this matter Who knows peradventure thou wilt acknowledge the truth and receive our Gospell Iew I am content that according to your pleasure you come to me but speak nothing to me of your bad tidings Christian Take heed to your selfe that you say not bad tidings but good tidings for it is a manifestation of the goodness of God which came to us by Christ the Redeemer of the world But why doe you so refuse to heare the Gospell and why doe you shun the light and will set in darknesse Is it not written concerning the light of the Gospell the people which did walke in darkenesse saw a great light and to them which dwell in the shadow of death light hath shined Iew This is the reason why I will not heare because Iesus your Messias was an evill man and his speeches were fained and the glorious God saw that hee would seduce the world and would set himselfe forth for God and for that God hath said that men should die but Iesus ought to bee hanged upon the Crosse that so all that should come into the world might see that hee was not God Moreover none of the Prophets hath prophecied frō that time wherin Christ being crucified was hang'd up none of Israel neither any of the Nations because a lying spirit did so much prevail in the world that there was no place for the spirit of prophecie But also we suffer al these tribulations and this very long captivity because that wicked man was borne of us and in our land who made himselfe God and seduced the whole world Christian All those evils which you Iewes suffer came not upon you because of our Christ because he said that he was God and the son of God but rather for this because your fathers slew him and crucified him a holy man and just the Saviour of the world who did no evill neither was deceit found in his mouth Behold this holy man your fathers slew and numbered him with the wicked and ye all allow this fact to this very day and therefore ye shall never find grace in the eies of God unlesse ye return from that evill way and acknowledge our Lord Iesus Christ whom ye in contempt do call Ieschim Vnless you beleeve in him you shall all perish and shall goe downe to hell Behold I have foretold it you shall not finde other salvation in heaven and in earth and for this cause seeke the Lord while he may be found call upon him while he is neere Forsake your unbelieving heart and returne to the Lord and he will have mercy on you and to our God for hee will abundantly pardon you Be not like your fathers who hardned their faces more than a rocke and would not returne to the Lord but dealt wickedly against the Lord the God of their fathers who delivered them to be spoiled as you see it at this day I beseech you harden not your necks as you have done hitherto but give your hands to the Lord and acknowledge that Christ is sent for the salvation of all men who shall beleeve in him the Lord our God is gratious and mercifull who will not turne away his face from you if yee returne to him Iew You shal never perswade me to receive your faith and believe in your Christ for that which you beleeve no reason can comprehend neither any man understand For how shal I beleeve that the Creator of heaven and earth and all things that are in them shut himselfe up in the wombe of a Iewish Virgin grew nine moneths and was borne a child and afterward increased in stature and was delivered into the hands of his enemies who condemned him with the judgement of death slew him on the Crosse and yee afterward say and beleeve that he lived again and returned to his former state neither the mind of a Iew neither can any man comprehend this therefore you spend your words in vaine seeing that these things have no likelihood of truth Christian Knowest thou not that nothing is unpossible to God verily all those things which you have now mentioned are in the Prophets but wrapt in the covering of words for thus saith the Prophet Isaias Behold a virgin shall conceive and beare a son and shall call his name Immanuel And in another place hee saith Hee was wounded for our transgressions he was bruised for our iniquities the chastisement of our peace was

taught far otherwaies neither are the words of Haggada true in this when it will compare Moses to Christ and the Egyptian captivity to the captivity of this time For the Israelites in Egypt did serve onely Pharoah for it is thus written Moses said to Pharaoh let my people goe c. for he alone without another King had the government over Israel and when he would not let them go God with a strong hand and a stretcht out arme and with great judgement brought them forth But in the present captivity the Iewes are not only under the power of the Pope but are disperst and scattered into the foure parts of the world seeing it is so how can the Pope by his power and authority let them goe who are not at all found under his dominiō Furthermore Moses delaid not after his nativity but fourscore years after which he delivered Israel and when I turne my selfe to the words of the Thalmud which saith the Messias is born but hitherto hath delaid his comming now a thousand and five hundred yeares I easily conclude that the words of the Thalmud are false or the first comparison foolish I would have you at least to take this to heart this very long captivity which hath no end or bound nor any consolation all which your fathers had in the captivity of Babel yea after that they offended God by their manifold abominations worshipping Idols and profaning the Sabbath and other solemnities and turning away from all the commandements of God proclaimed by Moses when they did these things God sent the Prophets to them to dehort them and he reproved them by manifold rebukes the Prophets telling them unlesse they did breake off they should bee carried out of their owne land and should fall into the hands of their enemies Loe you see that even in the worst times they had Prophets who did threaten them and againe gave them words of comfort speaking to their hearts even in that houre when they committed the evill likewise in the houre wherein they went into banishment out of their owne land the Prophets came to them and comforted them and the Lord revealed to them the end of their captivity by the Prophet Ieremiah and they were in the captivity but seventy yeares but in the Moderne captivity there is not a Prophet there is no comforting vision but the captivity daily becomes more grievous and all the bounds of the captivity which the wise men have set are past a long time agoe and we are certain the word of our Creator shall remain stands firme to eternity neither shall be accomplisht from good into evill but from evill into good as it appears concerning Egypt when hee began to count the end of that captivity from the nativity of Isaac The same appeares concerning the Ninevites who when they had committed all wickednesse so soon as they repented of the evils God was mercifull to them But in this your captivity you indeed doe observe the Sabbath and solemnities and other commandments of God which your fathers before the Babylonish captivity and in the captivity did not keepe when they had altogether forgot the Law of Moses but notwithstanding all this when the time of seventy years was fulfilled they were delivered But is it not written keep ye judgement and do justice for my salvation is near to come and my righteousnesse to be revealed blessed is the man that doth this and the son of man that laieth hold on it keeping the Sabbath from polluting it From this we gather when the Israelits do keep the Sabbath and make repentance they are not banisht from their own land But in the modern captivity the Iewes keepe the Sabbath and other precepts of God they make repentance they pray and give almes why therefore doth not the Messias come see how often they have made a great and solemn repentance with their whole heart and whole soule and all their strength that the end of their captivity might bee revealed to them but their prayer was not heard they did that especially in the 5262 yeare of the world which was the 1502 yeare of Christ when all the Iewes made a publick repentance through all their habitations in all the earth and through the whole captivity and that almost for a whole yeare both young men and old men women and children such a repentance as was never heard of in the foregoing ages and they did it for the comming of the Messias but all in vaine for there was nothing revealed to them neither token or any signe not to speake of any greater thing and truly that thing is a great wonder a hissing and clapping of hands to all who heare it that nothing doth help them not law nor repentance not prayer neither any almes all which they doe daily is not this a manifest signe that the Messias is already come but because you refuse to believe this word the keeping of the Law and the works of your hands are nothing Hence we may conclude thus if for repentance your freedome shall come and the gathering together of your scattering ye shall never be redeemed forsomuch as you have alwaies been a rebellious people and of a stiffe neck Moreover you see and know how vaine the words of Rabbi are who are here doubtfull and perplext and disagreeing amongst themselves One hath said the Messias shall not come but in a generation which is wholly righteous or in a generation which is wholly wicked and so thought Rabbi Iohanan the son of Lacae proving it thus In a generation which is wholly guilty because it is thus written and hee saw there was no man and he wondred that there was no intercessour therefore his arme brought salvation unto him and his righteousnesse it sustained him Also in a generation which is wholly cleane because it is thus written and all thy people shall be just they shall possesse the earth for ever Also Rabbi Eleeser saith if the Israelites shall make repentance they shall immediately bee redeemed seeing it is written turne or make repentance O backsliding children to which Rabbi Ioshua answers thus was it not said you have sold your selves for nought in your idolatry and shall bee redeemed without monie namely by repentance and good works Hence wee gather that the Rabbies themselves were doubtfull whether the congregation of the captivity should bee made by repentance or not and wee now already see repentance hath profited you nothing therfore all the words of the Rabbies which they speak concerning the modern captivity are mere lies and errours and that verse cited out of Isa. hee saw there was no man c. doth justly agree with Iesus our Saviour in the houre of his passion who saw none to repent and for this cause it is rightly said repent ye backsliding children as if he should say if they shall repent over this thing and

yet receive him they shall immediately bee delivered and this is the true repentance and the good workes which yee should do to remove the stumbling block out of your hearts and believe in the living God and in the Messias who is sent for salvation both to you and to us then shall be fulfilled this saying of Scripture they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength they shall mount up with wings as Eagles they shall run and not bee weary c. for in the time when the Iewes shall receive unto themselves the Messias of the Lord they shall be called the waiters upon the Lord and he shall give them power and strength and every good thing as from the beginning whereupon it is added then they shal renew their strength they mount up with wings as Eagles and they shall be renewed like an Eagle which if hee live to the tenth yeare hee ascends aloft to the face of the Heaven untill hee approach to the heat of the fire and then casts himselfe through the exceeding heat into the sea and being made naked is renewed and other feathers will grow in him I desire you to heare me againe what Haggai saith concerning the comming of Christ Hag. 2.6 to the 10. For thus saith the Lord of Hosts yet once it is a little while and I will shake the Heavens and the earth and the sea and the dry land and I will shake all Nations and the desire of all Nations shall come and I will fill this house with glory saith the Lord of Hosts the silver and the gold is mine saith the Lord of Hosts The glory of this house shal be greater than of the former saith the Lord of Hosts and in this place will I give peace saith the Lord of Hosts Behold the Prophet saith yet a little while but if the Messias were not yet come the Prophet had spoke false seeing from the time of the Prophet to our times above two thousand yeares are past Hee saith moreover the glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the first but what was that great glory saving that our Messias did appeare in that second Temple doing there signs and wonders such as were never done in the whole world he also taught the people and shewed them the way to eternall life Iew Our Masters do speak otherwaies here namely that the second house is therefore called the greater because it stood 10 years longer for the first house stood 110 yeares but the second stood 120. Christian This answer is empty and foolish for not for so little time the second could bee said to bee greater since that in all other things it was lesse than the first house For as it is said many of the Priests and Levites of the chiefe fathers and Elders of the people who saw the first house when the foundations of the second house were laid and they standing by saw it they wept with a great voice because that second house was as nothing in respect of the first because the vessels of the first house were of gold but of the second they were of brasse And moreover in the second house were wanting ten signs which were done in the first sanctuary to the Fathers as the Rabbies write 1. A woman did not make an aborsement by reason of the smell of the sanctified flesh 2. The holy flesh did not stink or was corrupt 3. A flye was never seene where the sacrifices were slain 4. The High Priest had no nightly uncleannesse in the time of the solemne sacrifice 5. The raine did not quench the fire by the holy place burning continually in the pile of wood 6. The wind did not scatter the pillar of smoak ascending straight towards heaven 7. Mouldines or corruption was not found in the pot of Manna in the two loaves and in the shew bread 8. They stood upright in the Temple and when they bowed downe to worship they had roome enough 9. A Serpent or a scorpion did never hurt in the city Ierusalem 10. Neither did ever any man say to his fellow my place is so straight that I cannot remaine in Ierusalem Moreover five other things were in the first Temple which were not in the second namely these the arke with the propitiatory and the cherubims fire sent from heaven the holy spirit Vrim and Thummim that is certaine holy mysteries on the brest-plate of the chiefe Priest You see now that the second house was not greater than the first because of the 10 yeares I will also add this that your Rabbies speak not the truth when they say that they shall build a third Temple in the Land of Israel and then the Messias shall come seeing the Prophet doth speake plainly here this is the last house shewing as it were by his finger the house which was then built and was then standing that house I say shall be in greater glory than the former But I desire to know from whence you Iewes have it that there shall be a third Temple Iew I will tell you Our wise men of good memorie say that Abraham called that place a mountaine but Isaac called it a field and Iacob a house for because Iacob about night came to that place the holiness and dignity of that place was revealed to him therefore these three fathers did foreshew three Temples to be in Israel two to bee destroyed and one to remaine for ever Abraham called that place a mountaine he saith in the mountaine the Lord shall be seen This is the mountaine of desolation concerning wch they write in the Medras or narration of the Psalmes with my voice will I cry unto the Lord namely when as yet the temple stood firme but when that is destroied from whence doth he answer he adds the Lord hath heard me from his holy mountaine Moreover that the second house was to be destroid they prove from this because Isaac called that place a field as it is written Isaac went forth to pray in the field And Ieremiah saith Zion shall bee plowed as a field Moreover the third Temple which shall never be destroied Iacob called the house of the Lord God and concerning that the Prophet writes the glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former And againe it is written I will bee to her saith the Lord a wall of fire round about and the glory in the midst of her and Exo. 15.17 The sanctuary of the Lord which thy hands have establisht The two first houses were made with the hands of men therefore they had no stability according to that in vaine doe they labour who build it therefore Iacob called that temple a house that should alwaies endure and not as others a mountaine a field and therefore hee presently subjoines this is no other but the house of God And Ieremiah saith behold the daies come saith the Lord and the