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A04779 The right and iurisdiction of the prelate, and the prince. Or, A treatise of ecclesiasticall, and regall authoritie. Compyled by I.E. student in diuinitie for the ful instruction and appeaceme[n]t of the consciences of English Catholikes, co[n]cerning the late oath of pretended allegeance. Togeather with a cleare & ample declaratio[n], of euery clause thereof, newlie reuewed and augmented by the authoure Kellison, Matthew. 1621 (1621) STC 14911; ESTC S107942 213,012 425

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be_v or_o ocham_n for_o my_o author_n but_o i_o only_o affirm_v that_o by_o john_n azorius_n they_o be_v allege_v for_o that_o opinion_n and_o yet_o who_o can_v think_v otherwise_o then_o that_o he_o have_v produce_v they_o for_o his_o author_n see_v that_o after_o the_o first_o opinion_n of_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n and_o other_o which_o hold_v that_o the_o chief_a pastor_n may_v in_o some_o case_n dispose_n of_o temporality_n and_o regality_n he_o set_v down_o the_o second_o opinion_n of_o those_o who_o hold_v that_o the_o chief_a pastor_n in_o no_o case_n by_o no_o authority_n either_o direct_o or_o indirect_o have_v power_n to_o depose_v a_o prince_n and_o come_v to_o the_o author_n of_o this_o second_o opinion_n which_o he_o himself_o embrace_v he_o say_v hanc_fw-la sententiam_fw-la ut_fw-la refert_fw-la joannes_n azorius_fw-la societatis_fw-la jesu_fw-la theologus_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la gulielmus_fw-la occamus_fw-la joannes_n parisiensis_fw-la dante_n be_v aligerius_n jacobus_n almainus_n etc._n etc._n this_o sentence_n as_o joannes_n azorius_fw-la a_o divine_a of_o
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which_o warrant_v widdrington_n have_v not_o for_o his_o opinion_n rather_o the_o church_n have_v condemn_v it_o in_o counsel_n and_o practice_n as_o we_o have_v show_v who_o be_v then_o so_o hardy_a or_o rather_o so_o rash_a that_o dare_v swear_v absolute_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o authority_n to_o depose_v prince_n or_o dispose_v of_o their_o kingdom_n the_o contrary_a being_n not_o only_o probable_a yea_o more_o probable_a which_o widdrington_n can_v not_o deny_v but_o also_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n or_o so_o near_o concern_v faith_n as_o the_o argument_n and_o authority_n produce_v do_v warrant_n that_o cardinal_n allan_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o libeller_n say_v 4._o chap._n 4._o it_o concern_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n and_o power_n apostolical_a 259._o apol._n pro_fw-la card._n bellar._n cap._n 6._o cont_n 4._o pag._n 259._o and_o schulkennius_n very_o well_o aver_v the_o contrary_a be_v either_o heretical_a or_o erroneous_a and_o temerarious_a either_o of_o 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affirm_v excommunication_n may_v be_v three_o way_n unjust_a exit_fw-la animo_fw-la when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n to_o excommunicate_v but_o the_o bishop_n who_o excommunicate_v do_v it_o not_o out_o of_o zeal_n of_o justice_n or_o desire_v of_o amendment_n but_o out_o of_o envy_n hatred_n or_o malice_n exit_fw-la ordine_fw-la when_o the_o bishop_n have_v just_a cause_n to_o excommunicate_v but_o observe_v not_o the_o order_n of_o canonical_a premonition_n which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v thrice_o or_o once_o for_o thrice_o exit_fw-la caviâ_fw-la when_o there_o be_v no_o just_a cause_n the_o first_o excommunication_n be_v always_o valid_a 7._o lib._n 1._o thesauri_fw-la ●●suum_fw-la ●●●sci_fw-la entia_fw-la ca._n 7._o but_o unlawful_a so_o be_v ordinary_o the_o second_o as_o note_v sayrus_n our_o country_n man_n the_o three_o be_v not_o only_o unlawful_a but_o also_o invalid_a and_o of_o no_o force_n so_o also_o the_o pope_n may_v depose_v validlie_o and_o yet_o not_o lawful_o or_o 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