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A45828 A peaceable enquiry into that novel controversie about reordination With certain close, but candid animadversions upon an ingenious tract for the lawfulness of reordination; written by the learned and Reverend Mr. J. Humphrey. By R.I. I. R. 1661 (1661) Wing I10A; ESTC R219975 68,572 176

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the_o sacrament_n and_o instead_o of_o amen_o to_o say_v i_o will_v not_o fly_v to_o cornelius_n now_o then_o let_v any_o one_o judge_n whether_o all_o that_o be_v presbyterial_o ordain_v be_v such_o as_o novatus_n or_o their_o ordination_n like_o he_o if_o they_o be_v let_v they_o be_v censure_v with_o he_o but_o if_o not_o we_o crave_v justice_n 2._o let_v we_o consider_v the_o case_n of_o aerius_n who_o be_v condemn_v by_o epiphanius_n for_o a_o heretic_n as_o some_o say_v for_o maintain_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d betwixt_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n but_o i_o suppose_v that_o aerius_n be_v condemn_v by_o epiphanius_n on_o this_o account_n yet_o i_o hope_v you_o will_v not_o think_v epiphanins_n censure_n sufficient_a to_o make_v aerius_n a_o heretic_n for_o if_o you_o do_v than_o you_o must_v acknowledge_v that_o he_o be_v a_o heretic_n for_o deny_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a for_o deny_v the_o paschal_n fast_o as_o judaical_a since_o christ_n our_o passover_n be_v sacrifice_v for_o we_o for_o on_o these_o account_n be_v he_o condemn_v for_o a_o heretic_n by_o epiphan_n yea_o and_o other_o doctrine_n shall_v you_o find_v condemn_v by_o epiphan_n for_o heresy_n which_o the_o very_a papist_n themselves_o will_v acknowledge_v for_o verity_n 75._o haere●●s_fw-la nomen_fw-la rebus_fw-la levissimis_fw-la impingitur_fw-la ludo._n vlu._n quid_fw-la est_fw-la pascha_fw-la say_v aerius_n quod_fw-la apud_fw-la u●s_fw-la per_fw-la ficitur_fw-la judaicis_fw-la fabulis_fw-la rursus_fw-la addicti_fw-la est●s_fw-la qua_fw-la ratione_fw-la nominatis_fw-la post_fw-la mortem_fw-la nom_fw-fr na_fw-la mortuorum_fw-la orat_fw-la vivens_fw-la quid_fw-la profuerit_fw-la mortuo_fw-la aerius_n arianus_n qaidem_fw-la in_o totum_fw-la aliter_fw-la enim_fw-la non_fw-la fentit_fw-fr quam_fw-la velut_fw-la arrius_n furiosus_fw-la ment_fw-la elatus_fw-la opinion_n magnam_fw-la mult●tndinem_fw-la allexit_fw-la sugabatur_fw-la cum_fw-la sitis_fw-la ah_o eccles●is_fw-la etc._n etc._n quid_fw-la est_fw-la episcopus_fw-la ad_fw-la presbyterum_fw-la nihil_fw-la differth●c_fw-la ab_fw-la illo_fw-la unus_fw-la enim_fw-la est_fw-la ordo_fw-la &_o unus_fw-la inqu●t_fw-la honour_n &_o unadignitas_fw-la epiphan_n haeres_fw-la 75._o 2._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o epiphan_n understand_v by_o heresy_n any_o doctrine_n pertinacious_o hold_v against_o the_o church_n whether_o fundamental_a or_o not_o and_o so_o his_o heresy_n seem_v to_o i_o to_o be_v sometime_o but_o a_o high_a degree_n of_o or_o a_o aggravate_v schism_n 3._o but_o if_o epiphan_n have_v understand_v the_o word_n heresy_n never_o so_o strict_o yet_o aerius_n be_v a_o arrian_n might_n and_o be_v thereupon_o call_v a_o heretic_n 4._o i_o do_v not_o observe_v that_o epiphan_n anywhere_o call_v aerius_n a_o heretic_n mere_o and_o simple_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o his_o ifotomy_n nay_o confident_a i_o be_o that_o some_o doctor_n of_o our_o own_o do_v deny_v it_o and_o particular_o if_o my_o memory_n exceed_o fail_v i_o not_o bishop_n jewel_n and_o doctor_n field_n 5._o if_o aerius_n hold_v a_o equality_n not_o only_o in_o order_n but_o degree_n and_o dignity_n also_o as_o no_o doubt_n if_o epiphan_n may_v be_v credit_v he_o do_v then_o some_o of_o we_o ordain_v by_o the_o presbyter_n can_v be_v bring_v under_o that_o censure_n 6._o but_o if_o it_o be_v heretical_a to_o say_v that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v but_o one_o order_n by_o divine_a right_n what_o then_o be_v catholic_n 7._o it_o seem_v that_o aerius_n be_v furious_a and_o turbulent_a and_o divide_v the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v settle_v but_o so_o it_o can_v be_v say_v of_o many_o presbyterial_o ordain_v so_o than_o what_o be_v the_o instance_n of_o a_o disowned_a arrian_n schismatical_a aerius_n to_o orthodox_n peaceable_a presbyter_n 3._o we_o come_v to_o consider_v the_o instance_n of_o coluthus_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v forcible_a or_o friendly_a to_o argue_v from_o the_o pretend_a ordination_n of_o ischyras_n by_o coluthus_n to_o the_o ordination_n by_o presbyter_n 1._o socrates_n ecclehist_o l._n 1._o c._n 20_o 21._o tell_v we_o 595._o august_n in_o euseb_n ecc_fw-la hist_o 595._o one_o ischyras_n practise_v privy_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o offence_n as_o deserve_v a_o hundred_o kind_n of_o death_n 2._o when_o he_o have_v never_o take_v order_n it_o be_v say_v he_o call_v himself_o a_o minister_n and_o presume_v to_o exercise_v the_o office_n of_o a_o priest_n 3._o nay_o more_o athanasius_n accuse_v he_o to_o have_v receive_v no_o order_n at_o all_o 4._o he_o raise_v heavy_a slander_n and_o reproach_n against_o athanasius_n such_o as_o i_o scarce_o ever_o read_v on_o before_o 5._o the_o coluthian_o of_o which_o party_n ischyras_n be_v affirm_v that_o the_o evil_n of_o punishment_n come_v not_o from_o god_n 6._o this_o ischyras_n adhear_v to_o euseb_n we_o and_o the_o arian_n faction_n as_o the_o other_o meletian_o do_v who_o though_o epiphan_n will_v not_o call_v heretic_n but_o sectary_n yet_o socrates_n will_v and_o give_v we_o this_o account_n thereof_o meletus_n bishop_n of_o a_o certain_a city_n in_o egypt_n 3._o ●●ccl_n l._n 1._o c._n 3._o beside_o sundry_a other_o cause_n special_o for_o that_o in_o time_n of_o persecution_n he_o have_v renounce_v the_o faith_n and_o sacrifice_v unto_o idol_n be_v deprive_v of_o his_o bishopric_n by_o peter_n bishop_n of_o allendria_n which_o suffer_v martyrdom_n under_o dioclesian_n 7._o it_o be_v say_v by_o doctor_n field_n and_o other_o 39_o of_o the_o church_n l._n 3._o c._n 39_o that_o ischyras_n be_v depose_v for_o be_v ordain_v by_o coluthus_n a_o presbyter_n not_o because_o such_o ordination_n be_v void_a in_o its_o own_o nature_n but_o from_o the_o strictness_n of_o the_o canon_n 8._o if_o i_o may_v give_v my_o judgement_n upon_o the_o diligent_a perusal_n of_o the_o whole_a story_n i_o shall_v say_v that_o i_o fear_v irregular_a contention_n more_o than_o irregular_a ordination_n cause_v such_o frequent_a deprivation_n and_o that_o uncharitable_a animosity_n more_o than_o antiscriptural_a heresy_n draw_v up_o such_o dismal_a charge_n against_o each_o other_o and_o will_v not_o now_o adays_o some_o surmise_n that_o these_o be_v the_o principle_n within_o when_o they_o see_v such_o practice_n without_o but_o to_o conclude_v according_a to_o the_o history_n what_o be_v the_o deprivation_n of_o a_o scandalous_a heretical_a schismatical_a unordained_a ischyras_n to_o justify_v the_o deprivation_n of_o holy_a orthodox_n peaceable_a ordain_v presbyter_n reader_n scorn_v not_o at_o these_o epithet_n for_o very_o we_o will_v submit_v to_o the_o severe_a trial_n before_o fit_a judge_n and_o those_o presbyter_n that_o be_v not_o find_v such_o we_o will_v be_v content_a they_o shall_v be_v deprive_v on_o condition_n those_o that_o be_v so_o may_v be_v confirm_v 4._o now_o i_o come_v to_o consider_v whether_o the_o condemnation_n of_o maximus_n by_o the_o constantinopolitan_a council_n and_o those_o that_o be_v ordain_v by_o he_o will_v warrant_v a_o condemnation_n of_o presbyterian_a ordination_n gregory_n nazianzen_n the_o person_n chief_o eoncern_v in_o this_o transaction_n assure_v we_o that_o maximus_n be_v a_o very_a wicked_a debauch_a person_n thus_o he_o paint_v he_o constant_n poema_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la sva_fw-la ad_fw-la popul_fw-la constant_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yea_o more_o he_o call_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yea_o the_o very_a citizen_n of_o constantinople_n be_v mad_a at_o he_o and_o accuse_v his_o wicked_a life_n 2._o he_o invade_v without_o the_o consent_n or_o knowledge_n of_o the_o bishop_n clergy_n or_o fraternity_n the_o church_n of_o anastasia_n in_o constantinople_n gregory_n nazianzen_n b●shop_n there_o be_v sick_a 3._o he_o come_v in_o the_o night_n 4._o with_o many_o bribe_a person_n 5._o be_v ordain_v in_o the_o church_n into_o which_o they_o break_v by_o certain_a bishop_n of_o egypt_n and_o so_o out_o of_o their_o own_o confine_n send_v by_o peter_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n be_v bishop_n bilson_n call_v they_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 254._o perpetual_a gou._n 254._o and_o as_o gregory_n nazianzen_n faith_n of_o they_o 6._o he_o be_v ordain_v bishop_n 339._o in_o apol._n 339._o never_o be_v ordain_v deacon_n or_o presbyter_n before_o as_o doctor_n blondel_n tell_v we_o 7._o he_o be_v drive_v out_o of_o constantinople_n by_o the_o people_n 8._o when_o he_o address_v himself_o to_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n ib._n greg._n na._n poem_n ib._n he_o be_v repulse_v with_o great_a wrath_n and_o formidable_a threat_n 9_o yet_o not_o quiet_a he_o go_v to_o alexandria_n and_o there_o drive_v bishop_n peter_n out_o of_o his_o chair_n 10._o though_o it_o be_v true_a he_o be_v condemn_v by_o the_o constantinopolitan_a council_n yet_o i_o find_v not_o the_o least_o mention_n that_o he_o be_v ordain_v by_o presbyter_n only_o or_o for_o such_o ordination_n that_o be_v be_v depose_v take_v the_o canon_n itself_o and_o make_v your_o best_a of_o it_o propter_fw-la totius_fw-la indisciplinationis_fw-la ojus_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la quae_fw-la constantinopoli_fw-it orta_fw-la