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A81417 A dialogue; between George Keith, and an eminent Quaker relating to his coming over to the Church of England. With some modest reflections on Mr. Keith's two first sermons, preach'd at St. Georges Buttolphs Church on Sunday May the 12th. 1700. 1700 (1700) Wing D1311A; ESTC R224917 3,864 8

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A DIALOGUE BETWEEN George Keith AND AN Eminent Quaker ●elating to his coming over to the Church of England With some modest Reflections on Mr. Keith's Two first Sermons Preach'd at St. Georges Buttolphs Church on Sunday May the 12th 1700. LONDON Printed in the Year 1700. A DIALOGUE BETWEEN George Keith and an Eminent Quaker c. GEorge Keith Well Friend what does my Quandum Brethren say of me since I left their Society Quaker Say of thee marry no more than what 〈◊〉 and most good People think of thee G. K. Prethee what 's that Q. Why to be plain with thee thou are a me●●● Weather-cock and a Friend to nothing but the Mamon o● Unrighteousness and having left the Truth and the Light for the Wages of Sin therefore consequently thou ar● in the Gaul of Bitterness and in the Bond of Iniquity G. K. Nay this is no more than what I expected from a Quaker but Spleen and ill Nature for I have experinced to my cost that nothing but Nonsence and Contradiction will be Relished among you It s well known I left you for no other cause but for your Erronious and Vile Principals in appearing to the World to be Peaceable Humble Hon●●● True and Sincere when in Reality your Society is made up of little else but Envy secret Malice Bitterness Pride Deceit and Fraud Though covered over with the notion of Sainctty and this is the real Fundamentals of your Hocus Pocus or Art of Ledgerdmain and is at this Day very finely Acted and Humour'd among you Q. Well George I am not inclind to Quarrel with thee neither am I prepar'd to enter into a Dispute with thee at this time by reason Satan has not only puff'd thee up but furnished thee with railing accusation against us But leaving the Lord to rebuke thee I shall only ask thee some Questions and so proceed moderatly in serious Discourse G. K. You may ask me what Questions you please provided they be not Impertinent ones I will endeavour to Answer them as well as I can Q. Pray George tell me why thou lefts the Religion thou weret brought up in and joine thy self to our Profession if thou didst not see somthing in it that invited thee to it And if thou sawest any thing amongest us especially in the Doctrinal part that was so very Wicked Vile and Erronous as thou seemest to Insinuate t is strange being so cuning as thou art thou didest not find it out till now having been so long amongest us G. K. As to your first Question its true I was at first mightily taken with your modest Apparrel Behaviour abstenace from Oathes and abundance of other pretended Vertues these were the delusive Bates that caught me and many others and was so cunningly Supported with that new invented Prattle I wont say Doctrin of the Light within that your Villainy and Deceit were so Dark without that I could not quickly descern it And to the other Question t is well known both in Pensilvania and other places I long ago openly Protested against many of your Errors and notorious Impieties and by Gods blessings Convinc'd many of their Wickedness who are now ready to Confess that presumptious notion of the Light within was nothing but the Spirit of Error and Delusion Q. Well I see thy carnal Thoughts begins to prompt thee to Passon and Heat but it being no new thing in thee I pass it by But I must tell thee thy hopping from Perk to Perk after this rate makes thee in my opinion smell very Rank of a late Salamanca Dr. tho in Charity to thy aged Carcass I wish thee better Success than he had and leave thy deserts to thy self G. K. I see nothing but Sence comes amiss to a Quaker here 's a Comparison with a Contradiction in the Belly of it the Docter you speak of revolted from the Church to the Baptist and I from the Baptist to the Church so that her 's a down right Contrarity in stead of a Parralle Q. Pray George been't so Angrey the Comparison is not so Wide as its Odious for you both hopp'd and both to one Church too tho not both at a time nor both one way for now I think on 't the Baptist and Church of England made an Exchange for Two turn Coates but which has got the best Bargain is hard to Determine G. K. Well well for all your Reflections t is well known I am highly esteem'd of and I am satisfy'd that I am Chang'd for the Better and as for others who have chang'd their Opinions in Religion which you are pleased to call Hopping if they keep out from herding among the Quakers there may be some hopes of them but if once deluded and decoy'd with your pretended Light within it proves such a Cloak for Deceit and Knavery that very few without a Miracle are reclam'd it being little less than bewitching Q. Nay I have promised I will not engage in a Quarrel with thee therefore for bare these tart Arguments and tell me what an Auditory thou hadest at Billings-gate Steeple-house Sermons G. K. I assure you a very numerous Company came both fore and afternoon of all Ages and Quallities which is an infailible argument of their approving my Doctrin Q. Not at all George in my Opinion for I have seen almost as great a Crowd at Bedlam to hear and see the mad Folkes there and indeed it s no strange thing to see the Multitude run after Novelties an instance of which we had not long since of the White Parson who Preach'd against Hirlings and tho a Docterin quite contrary to thine he drew more numerous Multitudes after him than came to thy Sermon G. K. Here 's another fine comparison again but you mistake the place its Grace-church street Meeting House that is a more nearer Type of Bedlam it being throng'd always so full of Fools and Mad Men both Speakers and Hearers being little better and to render the Emblem more exact the Holders Forth are not only gifted with the motions actions and postures of Lunaticks but they humour their very Tone too to a Miracle Q. Truely George thy Tongue 's no slander otherwise perhaps I might frame an answer suitable enough to thy railery But to let thee see my good nature I can as easily forgive thee for what thou hast done as some Charitable People Cherrish Old Lame Defective and Foundred Horses for the strength they had formerly Yet before we part I must tell thee that the White Parson 's Doctrin and thine in some measure agrees for tho' he Preach'd down hire because he had lost it thou Preacht it up in hopes to obtain it G. K. You talk of good Nature when t is well known you are altogether strangers to it else what meanes your Tribe by calling me Lyar False Treacherous and Deceitful Man Wicked and Malicious and for no other cause but by exposing their ernonious and false Principals therefore knowing my Innocency and
their odious Clamours and false Accusations the Crime will ly at their Doors in calling Names and I shall beare Revilings with the greater Patience Q. But George those things which thou now callest Vile Errovr and Herisies thou for some Years preach'd up and Applauded and didest affirm that in so doing thou hadest a divine Sence and Acceptance and that thou very zealously Labour'd to defend them by many cuning Arguments G. K. I deny that I ever so much as Endeavoured to defend those vile Errors which oppose the four great Fundamental Doctrine of the Christian Religion which I have since charged them with or indeed any other Article of the Christian Faith prorerly so called But suppose I did endeaver to mantain your Heritical Notions while under a mistaken zeal is that an Argument of my doing so always Must Paul be thought an unsound Christian because he was once a Persecuting Jew and continue a Persecuter and a blind Leader of the Blind for fear of being call'd an Apostate from the Principles he retain'd in the Days of his Ignorance If this be the sence of your Arguments you may with as much reason Exclaime against the Man who used for several Years last past to walk willfuly about the Streets without Cloathes and be angey with him for Cloathing himself because he used to go Naked as to rail at me for leaving that Society which my Conscence as well as Reason tells me is most notoriously Misled but no wonder to hear Quakers Argue at this rate when they themselves are constant in nothing but Contradiction and Nonsense for if any one should ask what Religion you profess I am sure no better Answer could be made than that no body knows nor your selves neither therefore it s great Pitty this Inscription is not set over all the Doors of your Meeting-Houses viz. This Place is Dedicated to the unknown God Q. Away with this Sophistry and Critical Reflections I plainly perceive that thy Back is Risen in a great measure against me prethee George abate thy carnal passion and lay aside all prejudice and ill Will For to be plain with thee if thy seperation from us be purely for Conscience sake I am so far from blaming thee that I highly commend thee but if this change proceeds from the hopes of worldly Gain or self Interest thou are in a most sad and deplorable Pickle and consequently will add but little Credit to the Church of England or solid satisfaction to thy self in the long run G. K. T is but lost Labour to discourse with such an Iliterate Cox-com as a Quaker have not I sufficiently inform'd the World in my two Sermons lately published that it was the Quakers vile Errours base Principals wild Frentick and abominable Delusions which you so much cry up for the true Light and movements of the Spirit the caused me to Relinquish their Society and no any Interest of Worldly advantage as many o● you so falsely as well as foolishly Imagin Q. VVell George if it prove so 't will be thy own another Day But t is a Riddle to me to see thee play Fas and Loose at this strange rate and to tell thee freel my thoughts thy Black Gown don't at all become thee however thou thinks of thy self I mean as to thy outward Tabernacle for inwardly the Light has been long Extinguish'd Therefore I leave thee as a lost and undone Vessel For thy very Sermons bespeaks thee no less G. K. I vallue not what the Quakers say of me I am sure my Sermons has gain'd a general approbation and kind reception and had been much esteem'd had not an Ignorant and Illiterate Person of your Society thrown out a sham one to disgrace me it being stuft with nothing but impertinence trash and rediculous Nonsence from one end to the other which plainly showes the Malice Envy Govetousness and Fraud of those sort of People notwithstanding their pretended Light purity honesty and plain dealing so at present Farewell FINIS