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B02743 The rarities of Turkey, gathered by one that was sold seven times a slave in the Turkish Empire, and now exposed to view for the benefit of his native countrey:. Georgijević, Bartolomej, d. ca. 1566. 1661 (1661) Wing D1921A; ESTC R175972 34,635 147

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day of Pentecost where he moved to me first this Question Where God had his being before the Heavens and Earth and therein all things else were created Which Question though it seemed to me not much pertinent to our purpose yet lest he should imagine us ignorant of our great God's universal presence I said He then was in his own being But when that seemed to him somewhat obscure and that he did not sufficiently understand it I then told him He was where he now is Which he understanding denied in the general and said Not so but that he then was in a bright cloud Which when he earnestly affirmed I quoted Genesis for they also read the books of Moses and the Prophets and said If God were in a Cloud before the Foundation of Heaven and Earth then that Cloud must be created before them both and upon further argument on this point being at last convicted he would dispute no further in it but gave me leave to propound some Question to him and for solemnity of that dayes sake I thought fit to say something thereof and finding these words In the name of God his mercies and the Spirit of them in their Alcoran in the Arabian Tongue and Character I desired him to read them The mystery of the holy Trinity Which when he had considered and wondred at he said Christian from whence had you this for in the beginning of all our actions we Musselmen use these three words and prefix them to every Chapter of our Alcoran when we sit down to eat when we go to prayers when we wash our hands or other parts of our bodies these words we first pronounce and these actions finished we sprinkle our heads with water and repeat these words In the Name of God his Mercies and the Spirit of them When thus he had confessed the Truth I desired to understand from him what he meant by the word Mercies who replied He understood it literally without other signification Then I applied my self to the mystical Interpretation and divided it according to Truth into three Persons the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost and shewed them written in the Arabick tongue And when he saw I had mentioned the Son of God he question'd How God could have a Son since according to their Law and Doctrine of Mahomet God had neither Wife nor Childe To whom I answered according to my weak understanding and capacity We Christians call God the Father for his Creatures sake being the first creating Cause and sole Preserver of all created who was for ever in the same Essence he now is in and will be for Eternity and is the first Person in the Trinity We believe the Son who by Mahemet in the Arabick phrase is called Rahman and signifieth Mercies so changed by him to be likewise God not according to flesh for God is a Spirit born of a Woman but of the Essence and substance of God Omnipotent begotten by God the Father to put away the sins of the World and so took humane flesh by the Holy Virgin Mary suffered for us died and was buried and according to the sayings of the Prophets arose again the third day and ascended into Heaven and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father there to judge the quick and the dead to render immortal happiness to those that have faith in him and to the unfaithful everlasting punishment I then presented him a Crucifix and said Behold this now and see if Mahomet did unworthily call the Son of the eternal God by Name of Mercies when with Arms thus stretched forth he calls poor sinners to his embraces saying Come unto me all ye that labour and art burthened with sins and I will refresh you And to render him more capable of the Trinity I pointed to the Sun saying You have a fair similitude here as there is but one Sun that hath form heat and light so there is but one God the Father who hath Son and the Holy Spirit which you call Ru●ahim consisting of three Persons equally of one substance and from Eternity coexisting This comparison wrought in him a belief in God the Father his onely begotten Son and the Holy Ghost a Trinity in Unity And when he had heard my weak discourses of God the Father God the Son and God the holy Ghost he much admired with saying O God O God I nor any of our Sect could ever imagine you had such good thoughts of God for we conceive you live in darkness of understanding but by your relation it seems you have great apprehensions of him and believe well if you did not neglect our great Prophet of God Mahomet I said What shall we do with the toyes and dreams of Mahomet for besides Baptism and the mystery of the Trinity which were had from Christians we know the Alcoran contains nought that tends to Truth Then I alledged to him the fancies and silly trifles of Mahomet's two Angels called Arot and Marot whom Mahomet sayes That God did send from Heaven to minister justice unto mortal men commanding them to forbid drinking of wine and unlawful mixtures with women to shew the ways to heaven to no man These Angels transgressing Divine Commandment were defiled deceived and made drunk by a Woman and shewed to Mahomet the way to heaven whom when God saw there he asked the Angels standing by who it was that came in that shape thither And the Angels telling him it was by the error of Arot Marot he turn'd the Woman into a Star and sent those Angels chained into a well to be punished everlastingly Divers like ridiculous stories I related as that of the Beast Baraile who could speak as man who carryed Mahomet to heaven where himself confesseth to have seen great Angels with many heads and those speaking many Languages in divers Tongues which is sufficiently foolish unworthy the name of a Prophet but said I knew not whether oppressed with Wine in sleep he dreamed to have seen such miracles or monstrosities in his imaginations And therefore when he inserts such follies in his Alcoran he deserves nor the Title of a Prophet from any reasonable man Having heard this somewhat abashed he arose and would argue no further but led me into the Temple and shewed me certain Images carved in wood and asked me If we did worship those silmilitudes of men or adore them I answered No think not we worship the stones or timber wherein these figures are engraved they are used and respected onely as records and remembrances to mens mindes of the passions and sufferings of our Saviour Jesus Christ for the redemption of our transgressions and we worship our true God in minde and Spirit remembred by that Crucifix neither are you denied the like remembrances of your great Princes and famous men nor we of holy Saints but 't is to give God thanks for their examples of holiness and our prayers to imitate their charity and pieties In these
but Eunuchs are suffered to be with them not their own Sons if above twelve years of age they never go abroad but accompanied with onely Women Of Strangers PIlgrims of several Nations travel to visit holy places which the Turk possesseth as Mecha and Medinum as Christians Jerusalem where they say Mahomet was buried but this is done as well for gain and profit as for devotion or Religions sake And there having seen a gilded Shoo hanging from the roof of the Church bought such fine linen and cloath as they please they return home with great advantage some carrying about the Streets water from thence in glasses for devotions sake and freely give it to any that are thirsty others do the like for profit And if any one of them happen to die in this Pilgrimage by what occasion soever although he ne'er arrive neer Mecha yet he hath the estimation and shall be placed in the rank of Pilgrims Miracles done by Mahomet at Mecha which they say he still doth in these times I Know not whether I should call them Miracles or rather Monstrous toyes written in their book called Mehemedine wherein they are perswaded that when Mecha was a building GOD by the prayers of Mahomet commanded divers mountains to bring their stone to the Fabrick of that Church every Hill his tenth and when divers Mountains had brought their portions and Mecha built and perfectly compleated a certain Hill called Araphat and some other more remote coming thither with their tenths somewhat too late and finding Mecha built and no use of their stones they began most bitterly to weep which when Mahomet perceived Hills so distressed and understood the cause he said unto them Be of good cheer weep not but store your tenths up in a place which I shall shew you and whosoever shall not pray upon your stones his pilgrimage shall be unprofitable and unaccepted And after so doing Mahomet struck the stones with his foot and there issued out Water not useful to drink and imposed a name and called it A water of purification whereof every Pilgrim carrieth at his return some portions thereof in vessels and whenever any die the vestures wherewith the body is to be covered are sprinkled with this water for remission of their sins And they further affirm That no man can come to Mecha whose visit is not known to Mahomet who reveals the persons to the Keepers there all Eunuchs and if a Pilgrim come a Ravisher or wicked Man a Christian or any of Religion different from theirs these said Keepers forbid him entrance into Mecha But the body of Mahomet is not there as some affirm but onely an imaginary form in the Wall of the Church expressing the lineament of a body which is often kissed and so they return home again Such lying follies for miracles these Infidels are possessed with concerning Mahomet and divers others so ridiculous as I omit for modesties sake yet must advise the Reader if he please to interrogate any Turk therein and he will finde I have spoke nothing but meer Truth Of their Alms. THe Alcoran obligeth men to Alms as meritorious and much pleasing God and saith The contrary comes from the Devil They have Hospitals for poor travellers built by the Wills and Legacies of their Kings where they have meat in different manners some allow Rice with flesh others prepare Wheat Bread and Water to drink but for rest or Lodgings there is no place allowed yet there are some few publick receptacles where they are received without charge or other bedding than Straw or Hay but they repose under a good Roof Of their Sacrifice THeir Offerings or Oblations are for the most part upon promise or vows in sicknesses or other dangers and then they kill an Ox or a Sheep according to abilities and promise to sacrifice it in some certain place This Offering is not burnt or placed on an Altar after the custome of the Jews but the beast being killed the skin head and feet and a fourth part of the flesh is given to the Priest another part to the poor a third to neighbours and the remainder they keep for themselves and friends to rejoyce withal Neither are they tied to perform these vows unless they escape the disease or danger for which they intended them all things with them being conditionall I give you if you give me And the like is observed by the Greeks Armenians and other Asiatick people even of the Christian Faith Of their Wills and Legacies IF any of their Musselmen make a Will their Legacies are given before Friends or Neighbours and they are commonly for cutting Water-courses for conveying Springs from some remote places to Hospitals Churches or dry habitations and that for Piety sake and their souls benefit Others give money to free bond-men out of thraldom But Women for the most part as most superstitious bequeath their gifts to Souldiers for a certain slaughter of Christians which they conceive to be greatly beneficial for their Souls The Legacies of their Kings are for the building of Hospitals Churches and so likewise are those of eminent and great personages Ceremonies of the Dead VVHen any of their Musselmen die men take the Funeral-care of men and women of women They wash the departed body very clean and wrap it in fine linen then they carry it out of Town into some remote place for they hold it sinful to bury in their Churches first Friends of the deceased and Priests meet and go in progress certain Monks bearing wax Candles then follow some of their Priests singing till they come to the Grave shaking their heads often turning round fall down with giddiness as in a trance The better sort have their Graves lined with Boards at bottom and at sides and covered with Boards on which they throw the Earth and strowe sometimes the seeds of Flowers thereon Great Men and Bassa's have peculiar Chappels for themselves and Kindred The poor are buried by high-wayes or in open-field If the deceased be of poor ability there is then money gathered for satisfaction of labour for those religious Men which is offered in the Streets Of the edifice of a Sepulchre called Tulbe OVer this stately Tombe being Prince-like there is erected a goodly Temple wherein their Kings are buried in the City with great magnificence Both rich and meaner have an Altar built of such an heighth as Beasts cannot annoy or pollute it with any foulness thither with lamentations weepings they often return and spread upon the monument sacrifices of meats bread flesh cheese eggs milk This Solemnity or Funeral-Supper continues for nine dayes after the parties burial according to the Heathen manner for the soul of teh departed and it is left to be eaten by the Poor by Ants or Fowls of the Air. They say It equally pleaseth God to give alms to Beasts that want as men when they are given for God's sake I have seen many buy birds in cages at good values