Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	call_v	father_n	son_n	3,252	5	5.6495	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A20733	A defence of the sermon preached at the consecration of the L. Bishop of Bath and VVelles against a confutation thereof by a namelesse author. Diuided into 4. bookes: the first, prouing chiefly that the lay or onely-gouerning elders haue no warrant either in the Scriptures or other monuments of antiquity. The second, shewing that the primitiue churches indued with power of ecclesiasticall gouernment, were not parishes properly but dioceses, and consequently that the angels of the churches or ancient bishops were not parishionall but diocesan bishops. The third, defending the superioritie of bishops aboue other ministers, and prouing that bishops alwayes had a prioritie not onely in order, but also in degree, and a maioritie of power both for ordination and iurisdiction. The fourth, maintayning that the episcopall function is of apostolicall and diuine institution.	Downame, George, d. 1634.	1611 (1611)	STC 7115; ESTC S110129	556,406	714

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clerun_v which_o be_v translate_v inheritance_n the_o sacred_a company_n even_o as_o we_o now_o also_o do_v call_v it_o that_o be_v to_o say_v the_o clergy_n which_o exposition_n if_o we_o follow_v than_o those_o presbyter_n to_o who_o peter_n write_v prescribe_v unto_o they_o how_o they_o shall_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v say_v calvin_n episcopatu_fw-la fungi_fw-la exercise_v the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o note_v their_o authority_n over_o the_o clergy_n be_v such_o as_o we_o call_v bishop_n but_o of_o that_o by_o the_o way_n now_o if_o the_o presbyter_n act_n 20._o be_v minister_n and_o teacher_n as_o i_o have_v prove_v and_o as_o all_o writer_n almost_o even_o those_o that_o be_v party_n in_o the_o cause_n do_v teach_v then_o by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o be_v to_o understand_v the_o duty_n of_o feed_v p●_n which_o belong_v to_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o will_v never_o be_v prove_v to_o belong_v to_o lay-elder_n the_o refuter_fw-la have_v 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be_v not_o minister_n only_o but_o lay_v or_o govern_v elder_n also_o the_o presbyter_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v i._n tim._n 5.17_o be_v the_o presbyter_n to_o who_o he_o speak_v acts._n 20_o 28._o therefore_o the_o presbyter_n of_o who_o he_o speak_v tim._n 5.17_o be_v not_o only_a minister_n but_o lay_v or_o only_o govern_v elder_n also_o this_o proposition_n which_o be_v but_o part_n of_o his_o own_o assumption_n when_o he_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o make_v good_a by_o any_o sound_a proof_n i_o will_v subscribe_v to_o his_o lay-elder_n for_o whereas_o he_o for_o want_n of_o better_a proof_n say_v that_o he_o have_v already_o justify_v it_o by_o the_o overthrow_n of_o i_o it_o be_v a_o most_o vain_a brag_v as_o i_o hope_v it_o do_v sufficient_o appear_v to_o the_o reader_n for_o what_o one_o reason_n or_o show_v of_o reason_n have_v he_o bring_v or_o can_v bring_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o presbyter_n mention_v acts._n 20._o be_v lay_v or_o only_o govern_v elder_n chap._n vi_o maintain_v the_o three_o reason_n that_o lay-elder_n be_v not_o mention_v nor_o mean_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o serm._n sect._n 5._o pag._n 11._o and_o that_o he_o speak_v not_o there_o of_o lay_v or_o only_o governing-elders_a it_o may_v further_o be_v prove_v by_o plain_a evidence_n out_o of_o the_o text_n for_o see_v by_o honour_n in_o that_o place_n the_o apostle_n understand_v honourable_a maintenance_n which_o by_o their_o own_o confession_n be_v not_o due_a to_o lay-elder_n it_o be_v therefore_o certain_a that_o this_o place_n acknowledge_v none_o such_o thus_o therefore_o i_o argue_v to_o all_o those_o elder_n who_o be_v mention_v or_o mean_v in_o this_o place_n the_o honour_n of_o maintenance_n be_v due_a for_o their_o work_n sake_n to_o the_o lay-elder_n the_o honour_n of_o maintenance_n be_v not_o due_a for_o their_o work_n sake_n therefore_o the_o lay-elder_n be_v not_o mention_v nor_o mean_v in_o this_o place_n &c_n &c_n to_o pag._n 13._o 29._o the_o refuter_fw-la have_v neither_o learning_n enough_o to_o bear_v the_o weight_n of_o this_o argument_n nor_o wit_n enough_o to_o forbear_v it_o in_o answer_v thereto_o he_o utter_v more_o gall_n than_o will_v well_o become_v a_o honest_a man_n the_o virus_fw-la and_o poison_n of_o his_o libel_v speech_n i_o leave_v to_o himself_o the_o vir●s_n and_o force_v of_o his_o argument_n and_o answer_n i_o will_v take_v upon_o i_o plain_o to_o confute_v and_o both_o here_o and_o every_o where_o else_o by_o the_o help_n of_o god_n to_o put_v he_o to_o silence_n first_o as_o his_o manner_n be_v though_o he_o dare_v not_o deny_v the_o proposition_n of_o my_o syllogism_n to_o be_v most_o true_a and_o undoubted_a prop_n yet_o he_o must_v needs_o cavil_v with_o it_o and_o because_o he_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v against_o it_o he_o hope_v with_o it_o to_o wound_v some_o of_o our_o side_n who_o among_o other_o interpretation_n of_o this_o place_n have_v think_v the_o former_a part_n of_o this_o text_n may_v more_o probable_o be_v understand_v of_o not_o preach_v minister_n or_o deacon_n &c_n &c_n then_o of_o lay-elder_n and_o although_o i_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o become_v a_o proctor_n for_o unlearned_a minister_n especial_o when_o learned_a may_v be_v have_v yet_o thus_o much_o i_o will_v say_v that_o if_o the_o disciplinarian_o do_v right_o ground_v upon_o this_o place_n a_o distinction_n of_o presbyter_n into_o two_o sort_n that_o there_o be_v some_o preach_a presbyter_n some_o not_o then_o this_o text_n do_v without_o comparison_n favour_v the_o not_o preach_v minister_n more_o they_o the_o lay-elder_n because_o it_o be_v a_o most_o certain_a truth_n which_o i_o have_v manifest_o prove_v and_o which_o the_o refuter_fw-la will_v never_o be_v able_a to_o disprove_v that_o by_o presbyter_n minister_n only_o be_v mean_v as_o for_o deacon_n i_o mean_v not_o your_o lay_n deacon_n d._n b._n have_v better_a reason_n to_o comprise_v they_o under_o presbyter_n than_o your_o w._n t._n have_v under_o the_o name_n of_o deacon_n to_o understand_v your_o lay-elder_n though_o t.c._n himself_o do_v subscribe_v to_o his_o opinion_n and_o whereas_o you_o challenge_v those_o reverend_a man_n for_o seek_v by_o warrant_n of_o this_o place_n to_o surcharge_n the_o church_n with_o maintenance_n of_o unpreach_v minister_n and_o deacon_n i_o answer_v they_o do_v not_o hold_v that_o in_o every_o parish_n such_o aught_o to_o be_v maintain_v as_o you_o will_v have_v your_o presbytery_n erect_v in_o every_o parish_n but_o where_o better_a &_o more_o sufficient_a minister_n can_v be_v have_v which_o be_v the_o case_n of_o many_o parish_n in_o england_n at_o the_o begin_n of_o q._n elizabeth_n reign_n etc._n etc._n but_o all_o his_o spite_n be_v against_o the_o assumption_n assumption_n though_o he_o spend_v his_o spite_n neither_o in_o disproove_v it_o with_o force_n of_o argument_n nor_o in_o answer_v my_o proof_n with_o any_o substance_n of_o reason_n but_o in_o sophistical_a cavil_v &_o odious_a wrangle_n for_o when_o he_o have_v say_v what_o he_o be_v able_a i_o can_v tell_v whether_o he_o do_v deny_v the_o assumption_n or_o grant_v it_o only_o he_o cavil_v with_o my_o proof_n of_o it_o my_o assumption_n be_v this_o to_o lay-elder_n the_o honour_n of_o maintenance_n be_v not_o due_a for_o their_o work_n sake_n hereunto_o i_o require_v a_o direct_a answer_n if_o he_o say_v that_o the_o honour_n of_o maintenance_n yea_o double_a honour_n assumption_n that_o be_v as_o not_o only_a theodore●_n but_o t._n c._n also_o expound_v 〈◊〉_d plentiful_a maintenance_n be_v due_a unto_o they_o he_o shall_v have_v bring_v sufficient_a proof_n both_o to_o confute_v the_o judgement_n of_o those_o learned_a divine_n who_o reform_v as_o director_n other_o church_n and_o condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o all_o reform_a church_n which_o have_v those_o presbyter_n do_v not_o

quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la the_o approve_a senior_n be_v president_n 39_o three_o of_o clement_n jacob_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o james_n translate_v by_o rufinus_n &_o cite_v by_o gratian_n if_o any_o of_o the_o brethren_n have_v saint_n let_v they_o not_o be_v judge_v by_o secular_a judge_n sed_fw-la apud_fw-la presbyteros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quicquid_fw-la illud_fw-la est_fw-la dirimatur_fw-la 8._o but_o before_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o church_n let_v the_o cause_n be_v decide_v &_o to_o their_o determination_n let_v the_o party_n stand_v four_o of_o jerome_n presbyter_n say_v he_o mean_v minister_n who_o he_o also_o call_v priest_n and_o attribute_v to_o they_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n from_o the_o beginning_n be_v appoint_v judge_n of_o cause_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n the_o author_n of_o the_o century_n time_n testify_v that_o the_o presbyter_n beside_o that_o they_o teach_v the_o people_n do_v also_o compound_v suit_n and_o controversy_n now_o that_o their_o advice_n be_v much_o neglect_v and_o themselves_o but_o too_o much_o deject_v by_o the_o bishop_n in_o ambrose_n his_o time_n appear_v not_o only_o by_o he_o but_o also_o by_o jeromes_n nepotianum_fw-la complaint_n likewise_o by_o diverse_a canon_n in_o the_o four_o council_n of_o carthage_n 4._o hold_v about_o the_o year_n 401_o wherein_n it_o be_v decree_v 22._o that_o the_o bishop_n without_o the_o assembly_n of_o his_o clergy_n shall_v not_o ordain_v clerk_n &_o that_o in_o the_o 3._o ordination_n of_o a_o presbyter_n the_o presbyter_n also_o which_o be_v present_a shall_v with_o the_o bishop_n impose_v their_o hand_n that_o the_o b_o 23._o shall_v not_o determine_v any_o man_n cause_n but_o in_o the_o presence_n of_o his_o clergy_n that_o he_o 32._o may_v not_o alienate_v or_o sell_v the_o good_n or_o possession_n of_o the_o church_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o his_o clergy_n that_o the_o bishop_n 35._o though_o in_o the_o church_n and_o 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&_o no_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n at_o all_o here_o institute_v or_o if_o there_o be_v 11._o it_o shall_v according_a to_o bertram_n conceit_n consist_v whole_o of_o the_o priest_n to_o who_o alone_o this_o speech_n be_v direct_v as_o for_o elder_n of_o the_o people_n they_o be_v not_o to_o intermeddle_v with_o these_o thing_n the_o high_a priest_n indeed_o if_o it_o please_v he_o may_v consult_v with_o other_o priest_n and_o use_v their_o assistance_n as_o azariah_n do_v use_v the_o aid_n of_o 80._o 2._o chron._n 26._o 26.17_o but_o that_o there_o be_v a_o settle_a presbytery_n or_o senate_n ecclesiastical_a ordain_v by_o god_n we_o do_v not_o read_v and_o that_o it_o shall_v consist_v in_o part_n of_o layman_n there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o semblance_n of_o likelihood_n 103.104_o his_o proof_n that_o there_o be_v two_o diverse_a synedria_n institute_v be_v these_o first_o because_o the_o number_n of_o the_o one_o be_v define_v to_o be_v 70_o the_o other_o leave_v uncertain_a 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the_o one_o have_v for_o the_o precedent_n the_o high_a priest_n the_o other_o a_o prince_n of_o juda_n none_o of_o these_o reason_n do_v prove_v that_o josaphat_n ordain_v any_o thing_n but_o that_o which_o before_o have_v be_v appoint_v by_o god_n 17.9.10_o namely_o that_o the_o difficult_a controversy_n which_o the_o judge_n in_o the_o city_n can_v not_o determine_v between_o blood_n and_o blood_n plea_n and_o plea_n plague_n and_o plague_n shall_v be_v bring_v to_o the_o synedrion_n or_o counsel_n of_o the_o place_n which_o god_n shoul●_n choose_v the_o which_o be_v there_o note_v to_o consist_v of_o the_o priest_n 17._o levite_n and_o ●udge_n that_o be_v judge_n say_v calvin_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o holy_a history_n where_o it_o be_v declare_v that_o josaphat_n beside_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n choose_v the_o prince_n of_o the_o family_n of_o israel_n for_o the_o godly_a king_n will_v decline_v n●uer_o a_o whit_n from_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n law_n to_o this_o counsel_n 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jure_fw-la as_o for_o the_o cause_n of_o god_n which_o verse_n 8_o be_v term_v the_o judgement_n and_o cause_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o be_v particularise_v verse_n 10._o and_o deut._n 17.8_o between_o blood_n and_o blood_n between_o law_n and_o precept_n etc._n etc._n we_o be_v to_o understand_v they_o to_o be_v not_o only_o ecclesiastical_a but_o also_o civil_a so_o far_o as_o either_o they_o be_v to_o be_v decide_v b●_n the_o law_n of_o god_n or_o concern_v the_o observation_n or_o transgression_n of_o god_n law_n whereby_o that_o land_n be_v govern_v in_o judge_v whereof_o they_o also_o exercise_v god_n judgement_n the_o cause_n of_o the_o king_n be_v such_o as_o belong_v to_o the_o king_n house_n or_o his_o exchequer_n and_o it_o be_v fond_a to_o imagine_v that_o those_o cause_n which_o be_v to_o be_v decide_v by_o the_o judicial_a and_o morell_a law_n of_o god_n be_v not_o the_o cause_n

of_o god_n as_o well_o as_o those_o which_o concern_v the_o ceremonial_a law_n neither_o do_v i_o therefore_o reject_v the_o exposition_n of_o beza_n and_o some_o other_o who_o by_o the_o cause_n of_o god_n understand_v ecclesiastical_a cause_n and_o by_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o king_n civil_a cause_n because_o it_o be_v prejudicial_a to_o my_o defence_n but_o because_o it_o be_v repugnant_a to_o the_o truth_n for_o though_o their_o interpretation_n be_v admit_v it_o will_v no_o more_o prove_v that_o there_o be_v two_o distinct_a syn●dria_n 1._o then_o that_o which_o i_o do_v embrace_v for_o though_o zebadiah_n the_o prince_n of_o juda_n be_v the_o chief_a in_o the_o cause_n of_o the_o king_n as_o amariah_n the_o high_a priest_n be_v the_o chief_a in_o the_o cause_n of_o god_n yet_o be_v they_o colleague_n and_o coassessor_n in_o the_o same_o counsel_n 〈◊〉_d as_o josephus_n also_o do_v witness_n for_o speak_v of_o this_o act_n of_o josaphat_n he_o say_v that_o he_o be_v return_v to_o jerusalem_n appoint_v judge_n there_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o priest_n and_o levit_n and_o of_o the_o chief_a or_o principal_a man_n of_o the_o people_n 18._o require_v they_o to_o exercise_v just_a judgement_n but_o especial_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v diligent_a in_o determine_v those_o difficult_a cause_n that_o shall_v be_v bring_v to_o they_o from_o inferior_a judgement_n seat_n but_o the_o chief_a or_o precedent_n of_o they_o as_o colleague_n and_o coassessor_n be_v appoint_v amasiah_n the_o priest_n and_o zabadiah_n of_o the_o tribe_n of_o juda_n and_o relate_v the_o law_n deu._n 17.8_o 8._o he_o say_v if_o the_o judge_n in_o the_o city_n be_v not_o able_a to_o determine_v any_o cause_n it_o be_v entire_o to_o be_v send_v to_o the_o holy_a city_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 7._o and_o let_v the_o high_a priest_n and_o the_o prophet_n that_o be_v the_o scribe_n or_o doctor_n of_o the_o law_n say_v 22.66_o sigonius_n and_o the_o senate_n assemble_v together_o 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to_o the_o ruler_n of_o christ_n church_n assemble_v in_o his_o name_n with_o who_o he_o promise_v his_o presence_n and_o to_o who_o he_o commit_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n to_o who_o also_o the_o name_n ecclesia_fw-la which_o may_v be_v give_v to_o any_o company_n of_o christian_n be_v it_o but_o of_o two_o or_o three_o meeting_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n do_v fit_o agree_v three_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o ecclesiastical_a consistory_n ordain_v by_o moses_n and_o renew_v by_o josaphat_n sit_v in_o synagogue_n when_o there_o be_v not_o once_o mention_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n either_o of_o ecclesiastical_a consistory_n or_o yet_o of_o synagogue_n and_o in_o the_o new_a such_o judge_n be_v mention_v in_o synagogue_n 13._o as_o punish_v by_o stripe_n bertram_z also_o witness_v that_o in_o the_o synagogue_n of_o the_o city_n judgement_n be_v exercise_v by_o ordinary_a judge_n the_o great_a and_o weighty_a cause_n as_o also_o the_o appeal_n of_o the_o less_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o counsel_n ●t_z jerusalem_n and_o again_o that_o the_o people_n come_v to_o the_o synagogue_n to_o prayer_n 18._o to_o hear_v the_o law_n and_o the_o prophet_n and_o to_o hear_v the_o judgement_n of_o moses_n law_n as_o well_o civil_a as_o ecclesiastical_a and_o so_o much_o of_o beza_n calui●_n by_o ecclesia_fw-la understand_v the_o synedrion_fw-mi or_o sanedrin_n of_o the_o jew_n institute_v by_o they_o after_o their_o return_n from_o babylon_n 11.16_o which_o he_o conceive_v to_o have_v be_v a_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n to_o which_o belong_v the_o censure_n of_o doctrine_n &_o manner_n have_v the_o power_n o●_n excommunication_n etc._n etc._n what_o this_o synedrion_fw-mi be_v calvin_n himself_o shall_v tell_v we_o it_o be_v certain_a say_v he_o that_o the_o jew_n when_o they_o be_v return_v from_o the_o babylonian_a banishment_n because_o they_o may_v not_o make_v a_o king_n do_v imitate_v this_o example_n of_o appoint_v 70._o elder_n num._n 11_o in_o ordain_v the_o 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priest_n etc._n etc._n and_o howsoever_o their_o power_n be_v much_o restrain_v after_o jewrie_n become_v a_o province_n subject_a to_o the_o roman_n notwithstanding_o the_o roman_n have_v grant_v the_o jew_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d liberty_n to_o live_v according_a to_o their_o own_o law_n permit_v they_o to_o exercise_v authority_n both_o in_o judge_v not_o only_o ecclesiastical_a but_o also_o civil_a and_o criminal_a cause_n 17.12_o and_o also_o in_o punish_v by_o stripe_n and_o imprisonment_n and_o sometime_o by_o death_n moreover_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n he_o that_o disobey_v the_o sentence_n of_o this_o counsel_n be_v not_o as_o our_o saviour_n christ_n here_o say_v to_o be_v hold_v as_o a_o heathen_a or_o publican_n but_o he_o be_v to_o die_v the_o death_n final_o there_o be_v but_o one_o synedrion_fw-mi for_o the_o whole_a estate_n of_o the_o jew_n by_o the_o appointment_n of_o god_n and_o that_o in_o the_o

question_n which_o we_o have_v in_o hand_n concern_v parish_n bishop_n for_o sure_o if_o there_o be_v any_o parishional_a bishop_n in_o the_o country_n than_o the_o country_n bishop_n be_v such_o but_o they_o be_v not_o such_o for_o they_o be_v set_v over_o diverse_a parish_n again_o if_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n and_o the_o country_n whereof_o they_o be_v bishop_n be_v part_n of_o the_o diocese_n belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n then_o much_o more_o the_o presbyter_n of_o parish_n who_o be_v inferior_a and_o in_o some_o thing_n subject_a to_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la as_o the_o bishop_n substitute_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n and_o their_o parish_n be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o country_n whereof_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la be_v call_v bishop_n be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o the_o diocese_n so_o far_o be_v either_o the_o parish_n presbyter_n from_o be_v bishop_n or_o their_o parish_n from_o be_v entire_a church_n endue_v with_o the_o power_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n but_o the_o former_a be_v true_a as_o have_v be_v prove_v therefore_o the_o latter_a that_o the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la be_v superior_a to_o they_o it_o be_v apparent_a because_o not_o only_o they_o have_v some_o jurisdiction_n over_o diverse_a parish_n but_o for_o a_o time_n have_v episcopal_a ordination_n and_o have_v authority_n to_o ordain_v subdeacons_n and_o to_o place_n reader_n in_o parish_n as_o also_o they_o may_v send_v formatas_fw-la or_o canonical_a epistle_n which_o the_o presbyter_n may_v not_o do_v likewise_o when_o bishop_n be_v at_o any_o time_n convert_v from_o heresy_n 8._o though_o they_o be_v not_o permit_v to_o be_v bishop_n of_o the_o city_n yet_o they_o be_v gratify_v with_o the_o name_n and_o authority_n of_o chorepiscopi_fw-la in_o the_o time_n of_o theodosius_n and_o valentinian_n a_o certain_a bishop_n have_v be_v ordain_v by_o two_o bishop_n only_o but_o this_o ordination_n the_o council_n of_o rhegium_n 1.2.3.4_o pronounce_v void_a and_o censure_v the_o ordainer_n as_o for_o the_o party_n ordain_v because_o he_o have_v of_o himself_o renounce_v the_o bishopric_n they_o think_v good_a to_o follow_v the_o example_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a and_o to_o gratify_v he_o with_o the_o name_n and_o title_n of_o a_o chorepiscopus_n but_o so_o as_o that_o he_o shall_v not_o ordain_v nor_o exercise_v any_o other_o episcopal_a function_n but_o only_o confirm_v novice_n and_o consecrate_v virgin_n and_o in_o all_o thing_n behave_v himself_o as_o inferior_a to_o a_o bishop_n and_o as_o superior_a to_o a_o presbyter_n and_o this_o be_v my_o second_o argument_n whereby_o i_o have_v prove_v that_o country_n parish_n have_v no_o bishop_n neither_o have_v each_o of_o they_o a_o presbytery_n presbytery_n but_o several_a presbyter_n assign_v to_o they_o as_o sufficient_a for_o such_o a_o charge_n as_o be_v determine_v by_o the_o council_n of_o sardica_n 6._o and_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o leo_n 87._o yea_o not_o presbyter_n only_o do_v severallie_o govern_v parish_n as_o with_o we_o but_o sometime_o deacon_n also_o be_v by_o themselves_o set_v over_o charge_n you_o hear_v before_o diverse_a testimony_n of_o the_o presbyter_n of_o parish_n as_o namely_o that_o 102._o of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n presbyter_n qui_fw-la paroeciae_fw-la praest_n etc._n etc._n the_o presbyter_n which_o govern_v the_o parish_n the_o like_a be_v presuppose_v of_o deacon_n in_o the_o council_n of_o eliberis_n 77._o which_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v as_o ancient_a as_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a if_o any_o deacon_n rule_v a_o people_n shall_v without_o a_o bishop_n or_o presbyter_n baptize_v any_o etc._n etc._n again_o if_o parish_n beside_o their_o presbyter_n or_o pastor_n have_v a_o presbytery_n than_o be_v it_o either_o of_o the_o ministry_n or_o of_o the_o laity_n but_o presbytery_n of_o minister_n be_v only_o in_o city_n and_o cathedral_n church_n and_o not_o any_o example_n can_v be_v allege_v of_o presbytery_n in_o the_o country_n no_o not_o to_o assist_v the_o chorepiscopi_fw-la much_o less_o to_o assist_v the_o presbyter_n of_o parish_n and_o presbytery_n of_o lay_v man_n be_v never_o hear_v of_o till_o this_o last_o age_n therefore_o the_o several_a parish_n have_v not_o presbytery_n moreover_o church_n endue_v with_o power_n ecclesiastical_a sufficient_a for_o the_o government_n of_o themselves_o government_n have_v also_o a_o bishop_n and_o presbytery_n have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n as_o themselves_o also_o teach_v but_o country_n parish_n have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o ordination_n therefore_o country_n parish_n be_v not_o endue_v with_o power_n ecclesiastical_a neither_o have_v they_o a_o bishop_n or_o presbytery_n of_o their_o own_o for_o the_o assumption_n let_v the_o refuter_fw-la consider_v with_o i_o what_o course_n be_v take_v in_o country_n parish_n when_o their_o minister_n be_v depart_v among_o themselves_o they_o have_v ordinary_o none_o or_o if_o by_o chance_n they_o have_v they_o can_v not_o ordain_v he_o but_o be_v as_o sometime_o it_o happen_v in_o city_n to_o offer_v he_o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o be_v ordain_v university_n they_o have_v none_o from_o whence_o to_o fetch_v a_o learned_a minister_n out_o of_o other_o diocese_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v supply_v unless_o first_o it_o do_v appear_v that_o their_o own_o bishop_n be_v not_o able_a out_o of_o his_o clergy_n to_o furnish_v they_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n therefore_o they_o do_v resort_v who_o out_o of_o the_o clergy_n belong_v to_o the_o cathedral_n church_n wherein_o as_o the_o nursery_n of_o the_o diocese_n diverse_a be_v bring_v up_o in_o the_o study_n of_o divinity_n do_v supply_v their_o want_n assign_v some_o one_o of_o his_o clergy_n unto_o they_o but_o if_o there_o be_v none_o fit_a as_o sometime_o their_o store_n be_v draw_v dry_a by_o supply_v the_o want_n of_o many_o they_o may_v not_o ordain_v a_o minister_n 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also_o the_o same_o title_n more_o than_o once_o in_o the_o same_o epistle_n of_o eusebius_n of_o caesaria_n call_v he_o my_o lord_n eusebius_n for_o though_o these_o two_o who_o i_o last_o cite_v be_v not_o sound_v in_o the_o faith_n yet_o their_o writing_n show_v what_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n before_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a not_o long_o after_o the_o same_o council_n athanasius_n succeed_v the_o foresay_a alexander_n in_o his_o behalf_n the_o bishop_n which_o come_v out_o of_o egypt_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n assemble_v in_o council_n at_o tyrus_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o our_o most_o honourable_a lord_n the_o synod_n hold_v at_o jerusalem_n 22._o write_v also_o in_o his_o behalf_n to_o the_o presbyter_n deacon_n &_o people_n in_o egypt_n lybia_n &_o alexandria_n move_v they_o to_o be_v thankful_a unto_o god_n who_o have_v now_o say_v they_o restore_v unto_o you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d your_o pastor_n and_o lord_n about_o the_o same_o time_n certain_a bb._n direct_v their_o letter_n to_o julius_n b._n of_o rome_n 23._o the_o great_a patron_n of_o athanasius_n under_o this_o stile_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o most_o bless_a lord_n etc._n etc._n gregory_n nazianzen_n nyss._n write_v to_o gregory_n nyssen_n concern_v a_o false_a report_n which_o have_v be_v spread_v that_o the_o bb._n have_v put_v he_o by_o the_o bishopric_n say_v let_v no_o man_n speak_v untruth_n of_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o of_o my_o lord_n the_o bb._n the_o council_n hold_v at_o illyricum_n write_v to_o the_o church_n and_o bishop_n of_o asia_n and_o phrygia_n etc._n etc._n have_v these_o word_n 9_o we_o have_v send_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d our_o lord_n and_o fellow_n minister_n elpidius_n to_o take_v notice_n of_o your_o doctrine_n whether_o it_o be_v as_o we_o have_v hear_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o our_o lord_n and_o fellow_n minister_n eustathius_n george_n the_o bishop_n of_o laodicea_n 13._o 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b._n geminianus_n and_o this_o be_v the_o usual_a stile_n which_o presbyter_n do_v use_v when_o they_o do_v subscribe_v to_o counsel_n instead_o of_o their_o b._n who_o place_n they_o supply_v as_o to_o the_o council_n of_o arles_n 3._o desiderius_n presbyter_n directus_fw-la à_fw-la domino_fw-la meo_fw-la joanne_n episcopo_fw-la direct_v from_o my_o lord_n john_n the_o b._n have_v give_v my_o consent_n and_o subscribe_v and_o so_o three_o other_o there_o mention_v &_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o diverse_a other_o etc._n counsel_n whosoever_o will_v peruse_v the_o act_n of_o the_o great_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n he_o shall_v seldom_o read_v any_o b._n mention_v without_o some_o title_n of_o great_a reverence_n and_o honour_n as_o reverendissimus_fw-la sanctissimus_fw-la and_o long_o before_o that_o socrates_n prooem_n acknowledge_v that_o it_o be_v the_o usual_a manner_n in_o his_o time_n not_o to_o speak_v of_o bb._n without_o title_n of_o great_a honour_n call_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d most_o religious_a most_o holy_a or_o such_o like_a and_o 58.2_o chrysostome_n say_v plain_o that_o heretic_n have_v learn_v of_o the_o devil_n not_o to_o give_v due_a title_n of_o honour_n to_o bishop_n but_o where_o he_o find_v fault_n with_o they_o for_o that_o in_o stead_n of_o those_o title_n which_o argue_v their_o authority_n they_o say_v your_o reverence_n your_o wisdom_n and_o such_o like_a what_o will_v he_o have_v say_v to_o the_o term_n that_o have_v be_v usual_o give_v to_o our_o bishop_n by_o the_o disciplinarian_o among_o we_o i_o say_v among_o we_o for_o calvin_n beza_n and_o other_o when_o they_o have_v have_v occasion_n to_o write_v to_o our_o bishop_n have_v not_o refuse_v to_o give_v they_o their_o title_n of_o honour_n to_o omit_v the_o rest_n calvin_n cranmer_n write_v to_o archbishop_n cranmer_n use_v these_o title_n illustrissime_fw-la domine_fw-la ornatissime_fw-la &_o clarissime_fw-la praesul_fw-la etc._n etc._n zanchius_n elohius_fw-la to_o 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and_o deacon_n say_v what_o mean_v this_o be_v there_o many_o bishop_n of_o one_o city_n in_o no_o wise_a but_o so_o he_o call_v the_o presbyter_n for_o than_o be_v the_o name_n common_a and_o a_o bishop_n be_v also_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o deacon_n or_o minister_n for_o which_o cause_n write_v to_o timothy_n be_v a_o bishop_n fulfil_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thy_o ministry_n for_o that_o he_o be_v a_o bishop_n he_o say_v do_v not_o hasty_o impose_v thy_o hand_n upon_o any_o man_n &_o again_o with_o the_o 4.14_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n but_o presbyter_n do_v not_o ordain_v a_o bishop_n &_o in_o another_o place_n tim._n he_o give_v this_o reason_n why_o paul_n write_v to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n and_o not_o to_o syluanus_n or_o silas_n or_o clemens_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o he_o have_v already_o commit_v the_o church_n to_o they_o but_o the_o other_o he_o still_o carry_v about_o with_o he_o and_o on_o the_o four_o to_o the_o ephesian_n 4._o he_o give_v instance_n in_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o be_v pastor_n assign_v to_o certain_a place_n seaventhly_a epiphanius_n 75._o say_v that_o paul_n 1_o tim._n 4._o write_v to_o a_o bishop_n and_o that_o a_o presbyter_n can_v be_v the_o same_o with_o a_o bishop_n the_o divine_a speech_n of_o the_o apostle_n teach_v who_o be_v a_o bishop_n and_o who_o a_o presbyter_n when_o he_o say_v to_o timothy_n be_v a_o bishop_n receive_v not_o hasty_o a_o accusation_n against_o a_o presbyter_n etc._n etc._n eight_o primasius_n tim._n say_v timothy_n be_v a_o bishop_n and_o paul_n disciple_n that_o grace_n 1._o be_v the_o blessing_n which_o timothy_n when_o he_o be_v make_v bishop_n receive_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n nine_o theodoret_n 3._o say_v that_o titus_n be_v the_o apostle_n that_o be_v bishop_n of_o the_o cretan_n and_o timothy_n of_o the_o asian_o and_o out_o of_o he_o oecumenius_n tit._n cit_v these_o word_n titus_n be_v a_o admirable_a disciple_n of_o paul_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o he_o be_v by_o paul_n ordain_v bishop_n of_o crect_n and_o in_o another_o place_n tim._n why_o do_v paul_n have_v other_o disciple_n as_o silas_n and_o luke_n and_o other_o write_v only_o to_o timothy_n and_o titus_n we_o answer_v because_o to_o these_o he_o have_v commit_v church_n but_o the_o other_o he_o have_v still_o with_o he_o ten_o sedulius_n 1._o this_o timothy_n be_v b._n in_o ephesus_n as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o the_o book_n of_o history_n and_o on_o these_o word_n stir_v up_o the_o grace_n which_o be_v give_v thou_o by_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n 1.6_o that_o be_v iuxta_fw-la ordinationem_fw-la tuam_fw-la in_o episcopatum_fw-la by_o thy_o ordination_n into_o the_o bishopric_n 11._o gregory_n 11._o the_o great_a hence_o it_o be_v