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A70057 Logos autopistos, or, Scriptures self-evidence to prove its existence, authority, certainty in it [sic] self, and sufficiency (in its kind) to ascertain others that it is inspir'd of God to be the only rule of faith : published as a plea for Protestants in the defence of their profession and intended only for the use and instruction of the vulgar sort. Ford, Thomas, 1598-1674. 1667 (1667) Wing F1514; Wing L2842; ESTC R13905 71,286 202

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had been made in many ages and did not coin a new faith never before heard of We are not Calvinists or Lutherans though so miscalled by some but Christians as Luther Calvin and others were in the last age And they and all others of the same profession stood to maintain their doctrine as the faith of Forefathers all along from the beginning of the Gospel And our Adversaries are not ignorant that this hath been held and sufficiently made good by the vote and testimony of the most antient Fathers unto whom our Learned have appealed as unto Judges in this Cause But our faith is not in the Fathers never so antient or learned but in our Lord Jesus Christ whom we have learnt to count and call our Father and Master as being the only Lawgiver Only we appeal to the Fathers thus far as to produce them for our witnesses and know we have reason to alledge their testimony because they owned the same doctrine of Christ which we now do And though the appellation of Protestants was occasioned in the last age by the Protestation made against the Interim yet these were but successors to those who had for many ages before protested against the additions and inventions of men besides the Rule of faith We can therefore plead Antiquity and Succession as well as others and better too unless they could prove better then they have done yet that their Faith is the same that was delivered by the Apostles For this is it which we build our faith upon and by this are we confirmed in it viz. That we profess the same truths which the Apostles received from Christ and delivered unto the first Christian Churches Hence we say when we are told that the Tenets of our Adversaries wherein they differ from us have been received for many ages that they are not so old as the Apostles Besides we know that custome besides or against truth is but an old errour And whatso●…ver is against truth is an Heresie though never so old Truth is older then errour and good was before any evil And so we consent that what was first was best But that our Adversaries Tenets are such we deny and say they were not from the beginning though some of them were taken up early enough and too soon as we know it was not long ere sin got into the world and yet it was after God had made men righteous Our Saviour Matth. 5. corrects many things that had been long received and went for currant by opposing his Word against them But I say unto you It is abundantly enough to justifie us in what we hold that we find our faith in Scripture and this our Adversaries know very well and therefore we need not marvel that they are so busie in raising doubts and questions about its Divine authority For let us once let Scripture go as some would have us our faith is gone also Were it not for Scripture I know nothing to hinder why every man may not coine a faith to himself and say it is the doctrine of Christ. Yea deny Christ and all Christianity For what have we to prove it besides the Scripture or how can we disprove any damnable doctrines and devices of men without it O! let us never think of turning from the good old way wherein we follow all those Champions whom nothing could perswade to part with it 3. Consider what and how much we loose if we hold not fast this ground of our confidence stedfast unto the end It is not for nothing that our adversaries press and urge us so much this way They tell us plainly that let go this and all is gone And they say truly in it For our faith hath no Sure footing if Scriptures authority be such as they would make it We have separated from them for many years past and the true reason and ground of our separation was that they held and practised so many things contrary to Scripture and would not yield to lay them aside Hereupon we resolved to communicate no longer with them because we could not admit what we judged sinfull as being against or beside that which we count the only Rule This I say hath been and still is the quarrel between us For if it be observed in our differences with them we still are on the negative part And why so Surely because our differences are about such things as they hold besides and against Scripture For in these we are bound to deny what they affirm I say again bound sub poenâ of loosing all our profession so far as we are Protestants in opposition to Papists And this let any man that is sober and intelligent judge of For let Oral and Practical Tradition as they call it be the only Rule of faith what is become of Scripture may I not justly ask whether it be something or a meer empty nothing what can it be at best more then a Cipher which we know in numbering stands for nothing unless a figure be put to it Tradition say they is that and that only which can ascertain us that this is the very doctrine of Christ which we believe And then what is Scripture more then a dead letter and Tradition is it which gives Spirit and life to it And where are we then even where our adversaries would have us to be Then we must go to the Church for our faith and take that for the truth which hath been delivered down for many ages whatever it be right or wrong The Church say they cannot erre And so say we But they and we are not agreed for all this For they mean no other Church then their own and this say they hath the true faith which from the Apostles was delivered at first and hath been conveighed down succesfively in all ages and it now rests only among Roman Catholicks God hath and ever had say we a Church or society of men on earth who did not indeed could not because of Gods promise erre in any thing necessary to to be known and believed in order to salvation But we cannot admit their Church and this to be all one God hath made a promise to his Church that he will be with it to the end of the world and this Church shall be led into all necessary saving truths But let our adversaries shew us if they can one promise of God made to any generation of men after the flesh such as was made to Abrahams seed and was made good to them untill the promised seed came Israel so long continued to be Gods people because of his promise But God hath no one people of one stock and kindred ever since unto which he hath made any such promise For many who were once a people to God afterwards became none and they who yet are none are in a capacity to be Gods people and shall be such when he pleases to call them Hence we count nothing of any arguments drawn from personal and
that the Records we have to t●… day have in them all the mind God necessary to be known in or●… to our salvation They who ma●… tain a Reli●…ion that cannot be ma●… good by Scriprure may well quar●… it as they have cause But all W●… believe it as they ought know much efficacy in it as they will n●… easily heed such flim-flams as ●…ome now adayes are b●…zzing into peoples ears Al●…s poor souls that have tasted how gracious the Lord is in his Word have an argument which all the world can never answer to them whatever it may do to others These men know and are sensible of a light within them and that it is of God and they heed and attend it But they know too that Scripture is a far more glorious light shewing them the way of life by Faith in a Saviou●… who is the Son of God And this light shewing the only way of life they find so to perfect all the natural light in them as they are the more confirmed in the belief of Scripture-Revelations For no man ever denyed the principles of Reason and Nature to be the impressions of God excepting Atheists of which there are so many now adayes Hence every civil and sober man considers seriously how the light of Scripture and Nature agree and that the one is superadded not to eclipse but to clear the other by a more glorious discovery of grace and mercy in a Mediatour for pardoning and purging all sin which else could never have been He is therefore the more perswaded of Sc●…iptures descent from God as a light from Heaven to give a lustre to the more obscure Principles of Nature and Reason within him What shall I say Gods word is known as his work is known And how is that Even because none can do as God doth He works like himself so that any man may say when he looks on Gods work Here is the finger of God Dent. 3. 24. Is not every work of God such as no creature can do the like And such is every word that God hath spoken as any man that hath reason may say This is the voice of God and not of man Who can thunder with a voice like him so we may say of Scripture who but God could ●…eak such things or in such a manner Never man spake like this man said the Officers who were sent to apprehend Christ John 7. 46. so say we Never any creature did or could speak as Scripture And therefore we believe it to be the Word of God Now being thus perswaded we inferr what we think will unavoidably follow that Scripture is the only Rule of faith For let Papi●… say what they can the Rule of faith and manners too can be no other then that Revelation which God hath made of his mind and will for that end What! shall man or any creature prescribe what we are to believe concerning the matters of God It is against all common sence and reason so to imagine But I shall dispute the case in two considerations whereof one is taken from the nature and quality of a Rule the other from the Office and work of faith First a Rule as it regulates or him that useth it so it swaies and commands the things that are regulated by it that they stand or fall are allowed or rejected as they are conformable to it or otherwise And this holds good in every Rule whether properly or improperly so called The standard of all weights and measures hath as I may say an authority to allow or lay aside all other weights and measures that do not exactly answer to it And so is Scripture a Rule of faith because it shews what is to be believed and what not But here I must prevent what will be objected by Papists viz. That Scripture is no compleat Rule but some things are necessary to be believed which are not contained in it 1. That Popery hath many such things as are not in Scripture we believe But therefore we reject them because to make Scripture a Rule not compleat is indeed to make it none at all Who ever heard of a Rule that was not usfficient to regulate all things for which it was intended or if there was devised such a Rule who can be so unreasonable as to call or count it so surely Masons and Carpenters make use of no Rules but such as will serve to measure all the work which they take in hand 2. Whereas they say that God hath left some things unwritten to pass from hand to hand by Tradition who shall believe this more then what the Jews have said a long time and for many ages that Moses had some commands given him to be written and others to be delivered from Father to Son by word of mouth Alas we know what account our Saviour made of their oral and practical Traditions which he calls vain and so may we justly account of these Our Saviour called the Jews to Search the Scriptures and condemned all their Traditions And why may not we take the same course and say To the Law and to the testimony if they speak not according to this Word it is because there is no light in them Isa. 8. 20. 3. Let Popish Traditions give as much evidence for their descent from Heaven as Scripture doth and we shall embrace both alike B●…t in this case we say as the Jews did in another We know that God spake unto Moses But for this fellow we know not whence he is We know by the Contents and matter of Scripture the Majesty of the dispensation the power it hath upon conscience the certain fulfilling of all the Prophecies to a tittle and many other tokens and testim onies of God speaking in it that it is the Word of God and no other When Tradition can produce such and the like evidences we may haply attend it more then we have done In the mean while we are at a loss and cannot believe the written Word of God and unwritten Word which Papists count so much of to be of like authority because one contradicts the other in many particulars To instance Scripture shews a communion in both kinds so instituted as is to be seen in all the Evangelists and so administred in the Churches 1 Cor. 11. 23 c. according to the first Institution But Papists give only bread to the Laity af●…er the Tradition which they have a while received Here is a manifest contradiction of Scripture by Practical Tradition And so there is in forbidding Priests marriage which Scripture allows as honourable among all men excepting none Heb. 13. 4. and taxes the prohibition as a departing from the Faith c. 1 Tim. 4. 1 8. What should I mention abstinence from meats having publick Divine Service in an unknown tongue worshipping God in and before an Image and the like If these do not contradict Scripture there are no things contradictory to be sound upon