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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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possit_fw-la summus_fw-la pontifex_fw-la imperatori_fw-la praecipere_fw-la in_fw-la iis_fw-la praesertim_fw-la quae_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la pertinent_a whereas_o say_v he_o the_o supreme_a pontiff_n or_o pope_n may_v command_v the_o emperor_n especial_o in_o such_o thing_n as_o concern_v the_o church_n where_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o bellarmine_n confess_v plain_o there_o be_v no_o civil_a institution_n or_o law_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o civil_a or_o lay_a court_n for_o the_o reader_n be_v to_o take_v notice_n here_o that_o by_o the_o civil_a law_n in_o this_o matter_n no_o other_o civil_a law_n be_v understand_v but_o that_o only_a of_o emperor_n from_o which_o indeed_o original_o and_o only_o all_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n proceed_v even_o in_o those_o christian_a country_n which_o have_v shake_v off_o the_o yoke_n and_o even_o in_o those_o too_o which_o never_o yet_o be_v under_o that_o of_o the_o imperial_a power_n or_o law_n but_o have_v make_v themselves_o peculiar_a municipal_a law_n which_o yet_o albeit_o they_o be_v mere_o and_o proper_o civil_a law_n yet_o be_v they_o not_o the_o civil_a law_n whereof_o bellarmine_n treat_v and_o his_o other_o associate_n contend_v as_o we_o be_v sure_o they_o give_v more_o exemption_n to_o clerk_n either_o in_o criminal_a or_o civil_a cause_n than_o those_o of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n do_v but_o forasmuch_o as_o many_o of_o our_o clerk_n be_v ignorant_a of_o that_o spring_n of_o their_o exemption_n whatever_o this_o exemption_n true_o &_o ground_o be_v as_o other_o be_v no_o less_o ungrateful_a for_o not_o acknowledge_v it_o i_o will_v oblige_v those_o and_o check_v these_o by_o lay_v here_o before_o their_o eye_n the_o very_a first_o law_n &_o the_o several_a degree_n of_o they_o whereby_o they_o come_v by_o the_o mere_a favour_n of_o the_o roman_a emperor_n to_o that_o exemption_n from_o secular_a court_n which_o they_o have_v true_o ever_o since_o enjoy_v more_o or_o less_o in_o christendom_n according_a as_o these_o law_n be_v continue_v practise_v or_o even_o by_o other_o prince_n not_o subject_a any_o more_o or_o at_o all_o to_o the_o roman_a emperor_n and_o law_n enact_v a_o new_a or_o allow_v of_o therefore_o and_o that_o we_o may_v not_o err_v hereafter_o in_o this_o point_n the_o reader_n be_v to_o know_v that_o all_o these_o several_a privilege_n liberty_n or_o exemption_n either_o of_o person_n land_n or_o other_o good_n which_o the_o clergy_n have_v now_o in_o christian_a kingdom_n and_o state_n have_v not_o be_v grant_v at_o first_o by_o any_o one_o emperor_n or_o at_o any_o one_o time_n the_o very_a first_o exemption_n ever_o yet_o grant_v to_o clerk_n be_v that_o of_o constantine_n the_o great_a whereby_o after_o this_o good_a emperor_n have_v former_o publish_v his_o edict_n of_o liberty_n for_o christian_a religion_n in_o general_n he_o particular_o give_v this_o privilege_n by_o law_n to_o those_o of_o that_o religion_n be_v call_v clerk_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v obnoxious_a to_o nomination_n or_o susception_n that_o be_v that_o if_o they_o be_v name_v or_o elect_v for_o any_o civil_a office_n of_o magistracy_n or_o wardship_n or_o of_o gather_v of_o tax_n tribute_n etc._n etc._n yet_o they_o shall_v not_o be_v bind_v to_o undergo_v any_o such_o whereas_o before_o that_o law_n or_o privilege_n christian_a clerk_n be_v name_v or_o elect_v be_v bind_v to_o undergo_v all_o such_o office_n without_o any_o such_o excuse_n at_o all_o but_o eight_o year_n after_o this_o law_n so_o make_v the_o same_o c●nstantine_n make_v another_o whereby_o he_o give_v a_o general_a exemption_n to_o such_o clerk_n from_o all_o kind_n of_o civil_a office_n l._n 1._o &_o 2._o cod._n theod._n the_o episcop_n &_o cleric_a l._n 16._o wherein_o he_o give_v the_o reason_n of_o this_o privilege_n lest_o say_v he_o clerk_n sacrilego_fw-la liu●re_fw-la quorundam_fw-la a_o divinis_fw-la obsequiis_fw-la 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submit_v to_o nomination_n and_o susception_n which_o public_a use_n require_v against_o the_o privilege_n grant_v they_o in_o reference_n to_o and_o
a_o ordinance_n in_o such_o general_a or_o rather_o indefinite_a term_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o a_o criminal_a question_n from_o the_o civil-judicatory_a or_o be_v it_o be_v but_o a_o command_n or_o law_n that_o none_o shall_v presume_v to_o call_v or_o draw_v a_o ecclesiastical_a person_n in_o a_o criminal_a question_n or_o even_o civil_a to_o a_o secular_a judgement_n against_o the_o imperial_a constitution_n and_o canonical_a function_n and_o whereas_o there_o be_v never_o yet_o any_o imperial_a constitution_n or_o canonical_a sanction_n either_o make_v before_o his_o time_n or_o in_o his_o time_n or_o after_o his_o time_n that_o exempt_v clergyman_n in_o either_o of_o both_o sort_n of_o question_n civil_a or_o criminal_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a and_o absolute_a power_n of_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o of_o other_o king_n that_o acknowledge_v neither_o emperor_n nor_o pope_n nor_o any_o other_o above_o themselves_o in_o their_o temporal_a government_n who_o see_v not_o that_o out_o of_o this_o constitution_n of_o frederick_n nothing_o can_v be_v conclude_v for_o such_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n but_o only_o from_o that_o of_o subordinat_fw-la inferior_a and_o ordinary_a civil_a or_o secular_a judicatories_n beside_o we_o know_v frederick_n law_n be_v only_o for_o those_o few_o city_n or_o province_n that_o remain_v in_o his_o time_n which_o be_v about_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n one_o thousand_o two_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o and_o therefore_o can_v not_o pretend_v nor_o do_v pretend_v to_o prescribe_v law_n to_o other_o kingdom_n or_o king_n for_o the_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n either_o in_o civil_a or_o criminal_a cause_n or_o even_o to_o the_o inferior_a judicatories_n of_o other_o king_n and_o that_o we_o know_v also_o that_o that_o law_n of_o frederick_n be_v not_o imitate_v by_o the_o like_a in_o other_o principality_n not_o subject_a to_o he_o not_o imitate_v i_o 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by_o they_o be_v judge●_n whatever_o the_o cause_n or_o question_n be_v civil_a or_o criminal_a temporal_a or_o spiritual_a or_o mix_v of_o both_o and_o both_o have_v their_o power_n which_o as_o coercive_a or_o a_o 〈…〉_o with_o any_o coercible_a from_o the_o emperor_n and_o from_o their_o civil_a law_n 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o the_o emperor_n exempt_n any_o from_o the_o secular_a judicatory_a 〈…〉_o leave_v or_o put_v such_o under_o the_o subordinat_fw-la p●●er_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a judge_n depute_v by_o the_o same_o emperor_n or_o by_o their_o law_n which_o they_o may_v have_v do_v in_o favour_n of_o mere_a lie_v man_n 〈◊〉_d some_o lay-man_n and_o in_o some_o or_o many_o or_o all_o case_n whatsoever_o make_v have_v it_o be_v their_o imperial_a pleasure_n as_o often_o they_o do_v by_o instance_n grant_v epise_v 〈◊〉_d and_o entiam_fw-la to_o mere_a lie_v man_n and_o in_o mere_a lie_v crime_n or_o lie_v cause_n 〈◊〉_d civil_a and_o criminal_a at_o lea●_n in_o civil_a will_v bellarmine_n conclude_v therefore_o that_o those_o be_v exempt_v or_o shall_v be_v in_o such_o a_o case_n and_o by_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o their_o law_n exempt_v from_o their_o own_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n in_o criminal_a cause_n or_o indeed_o in_o any_o whatsoever_o or_o must_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o by_o the_o law_n of_o england_n a_o lord_n for_o example_n 〈◊〉_d be_v condemn_v or_o try_v in_o a_o criminal_a cause_n but_o by_o his_o peer_n that_o therefore_o in_o england_n a_o lord_n be_v exempt_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o the_o king_n himself_o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o a_o power_n derive_v from_o the_o king_n th●●_n peer_n 〈…〉_o condemn_v or_o free_v another_o peer_n or_o even_o that_o by_o the_o supreme_a power_n of_o the_o king_n which_o former_o establish_v such_o a_o law_n of_o privilege_n for_o peer_n the_o same_o law_n may_v not_o be_v just_o again_o or_o upon_o just_a ground_n repeal_v and_o a_o contrary_a law_n make_v in_o parliament_n if_o at_o any_o time_n it_o be_v find_v by_o manifest_a experience_n that_o the_o peer_n do_v manifest_o and_o manifold_o and_o even_o to_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o king_n and_o kingdom_n and_o against_o the_o very_a primary_n intention_n of_o all_o privilege_n and_o law_n make_v use_n of_o or_o rather_o abuse_v such_o a_o former_a law_n or_o former_a privilege_n or_o final_o and_o consequent_o that_o whatever_o privilege_n of_o exemption_n though_o only_o from_o inferior_a lie_v judge_n be_v so_o grant_v as_o before_o to_o clerk_n by_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n of_o emperor_n king_n and_o other_o state_n be_v such_o that_o in_o case_n of_o manifest_a and_o manifold_a abuse_n even_o to_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o public_a and_o without_o any_o hope_n of_o amendment_n it_o can_v not_o be_v revoke_v again_o or_o moderate_v by_o another_o law_n and_o equal_a power_n to_o that_o which_o give_v it_o before_o therefore_o from_o first_o to_o last_o i_o think_v it_o be_v now_o clear_a enough_o that_o by_o the_o civil_a law_n no_o clerk_n be_v exempt_a in_o criminal_a cause_n from_o the_o supreme_a coercive_a power_n of_o such_o temporal_a prince_n or_o state_n under_o who_o they_o live_v lxix_o that_o neither_o by_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o church_n i_o be_o now_o to_o prove_v wherein_o i_o find_v so_o little_a difficulty_n that_o notwithstanding_o the_o general_a error_n so_o wide_o spread_v or_o suppose_v among_o as_o well_o divine_n as_o canonist_n to_o the_o contrary_a but_o introduce_v at_o first_o and_o continue_v after_o out_o of_o some_o passage_n of_o council_n very_o ill_o understand_v consider_v or_o examine_v i_o dare_v say_v bold_o that_o not_o only_o none_o of_o all_o those_o council_n or_o canon_n of_o council_n allege_v for_o such_o exemption_n of_o clerk_n from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n but_o not_o even_o any_o of_o they_o allege_v for_o their_o exemption_n from_o as_o much_o as_o the_o subordinat_a civil_a power_n of_o inferior_a judicatories_n have_v any_o such_o matter_n at_o all_o though_o my_o purpose_n here_o be_v not_o other_o then_o to_o prove_v this_o truth_n for_o what_o concern_v the_o supreme_a power_n only_o to_o which_o purpose_n i_o affirm_v that_o no_o where_n in_o any_o council_n be_v it_o find_v that_o the_o father_n attribute_v such_o authority_n to_o themselves_o as_o by_o their_o own_o sole_a power_n to_o exempt_a clerk_n from_o lay_a tribunal_n ●_o or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n to_o deprive_v secular_a judge_n or_o magistrate_n of_o power_n empire_n command_n judgement_n coercion_n or_o jurisdiction_n over_o clerk_n or_o which_o also_o import_v the_o very_a same_o to_o prohibit_v the_o secular_a judge_n not_o to_o take_v cognizance_n of_o or_o give_v sentence_n in_o the_o cause_n either_o civil_a or_o criminal_a of_o clerk_n bring_v unto_o their_o tribunal_n or_o final_o and_o it_o be_v still_o in_o effect_n the_o same_o
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nu_fw-la 6._o hac_fw-la parte_fw-la tantùm_fw-la damnandi_fw-la quòd_fw-la confirmationem_fw-la electi_fw-la in_o romanum_fw-la pontificem_fw-la sibi_fw-la vindicarent_fw-la imò_fw-la add_v ita_fw-la vindicarent_fw-la ut_fw-la ex_fw-la ipsa_fw-la electione_n &_o confirmatione_fw-la pecuniam_fw-la etiam_fw-la aliquam_fw-la vellent_fw-la acccipere_fw-la but_o let_v we_o here_o this_o learned_a annalist_n make_v a_o little_o further_a progress_n ibid._n tom_n 8._o a_o 593._o n._n 18._o quibus_fw-la imprimis_fw-la say_v he_o vides_fw-la sanctum_fw-la gregorium_fw-la definire_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la subditam_fw-la regibus_fw-la aliquo_fw-la modo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la verumetiam_fw-la firmiter_fw-la asseverare_fw-la non_fw-la habendum_fw-la esse_fw-la mauritium_n inter_fw-la imperatores_fw-la dum_fw-la adversus_fw-la dei_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la regiam_fw-la potestatem_fw-la exercet_fw-la what_o do_v you_o say_v baronius_n be_v this_o indeed_o your_o candour_n will_v 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