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A03885 A summary of controuersies Wherein are briefly treated the cheefe questions of diuinity, now a dayes in dispute betweene Catholikes & protestants: especially out of the holy Scripture. Written in Latin by the R. Father, Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by I.L. of the same Society. The I. tome, deuided into two controuersies.; Controversiarum epitomes. English Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 13998; ESTC S104309 167,262 458

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the_o apostle_n be_v there_o resident_a and_o govern_v the_o same_o as_o the_o supreme_a head_n thereof_o 2._o the_o first_o place_n be_v take_v out_o of_o s._n 19_o mat._n 15._o v._n 18._o &_o 19_o matthew_n for_o he_o relate_v the_o word_n which_o christ_n speak_v to_o s._n peter_n which_o be_v these_o and_o i_o say_v unto_o thou_o that_o thou_o be_v peter_n and_o upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o and_o i_o will_v give_v to_o thou_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v upon_o earth_n it_o shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v loose_v on_o earth_n it_o shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n 3._o first_o that_o christ_n speak_v to_o s._n peter_n and_o not_o to_o the_o other_o apostle_n appear_v evident_o by_o the_o very_a word_n of_o the_o text_n for_o 15._o io._n 1._o v._n 24._o &_o joan_n 22._o v._o 15._o first_o of_o 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of_o man_n they_o shall_v less_o impudent_o and_o more_o sincere_o carry_v themselves_o in_o the_o explication_n of_o the_o heavenly_a doctrine_n thus_o far_o s●●●merus_n of_o the_o great_a care_n &_o diligence_n of_o the_o prince_n of_o transiluania_n in_o defend_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o anti_n trinitarian_n 8._o moreover_o it_o be_v also_o manifest_a that_o out_o of_o this_o opinion_n of_o our_o adversary_n to_o 1531._o seruetus_fw-la l._n 1._o de_fw-la erroribus_fw-la trinitat_fw-la fol._n 32._o pag._n 1._o edit_fw-la a_o 1531._o wit_n that_o we_o must_v not_o believe_v any_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o express_v in_o scripture_n this_o wicked_a heresy_n of_o the_o anti_n trinitarian_n in_o these_o our_o day_n have_v her_o beginning_n for_o that_o michael_n seruetus_fw-la who_o in_o our_o age_n be_v the_o first_o of_o they_o that_o by_o print_a book_n presume_v to_o oppugn_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n do_v plain_o testify_v write_v in_o
visible_a and_o invisible_a and_o they_o say_v that_o the_o invisible_a church_n can_v err_v but_o 4._o supr_fw-la hac_fw-la ipsa_fw-la cont_n cap._n 4._o the_o visible_a may_v err_v but_o we_o have_v now_o already_o declare_v that_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n must_v needs_o be_v visible_a wherefore_o this_o distinction_n be_v now_o sufficient_o refute_v and_o true_o it_o import_v but_o a_o little_a whether_o that_o their_o invisible_a church_n can_v err_v or_o not_o err_v see_v that_o it_o can_v be_v see_v or_o know_v of_o any_o and_o consequent_o can_v be_v profitable_a unto_o any_o 16._o there_o be_v also_o some_o of_o the_o late_a sectary_n who_o distinguish_v and_o divide_v the_o church_n into_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n which_o 8._o junius_n in_o bellarm._n contr._n 1._o l._n 4._o c._n 10._o nota_fw-la 8._o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o into_o that_o which_o remain_v fight_v here_o upon_o earth_n and_o they_o say_v that_o the_o church_n triumphant_a of_o saint_n can_v err_v in_o faith_n or_o in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n but_o the_o church_n militant_a may_v err_v but_o this_o be_v a_o ridiculous_a distinction_n first_o 1._o hebr._n 21._o v._o 1._o because_o the_o saint_n haven_n ot_fw-mi faith_n but_o a_o clear_a vision_n of_o god_n for_o as_o the_o apostle_n witness_v faith_n concern_v thing_n which_o do_v not_o appear_v wherefore_o if_o at_o any_o time_n faith_n perish_v upon_o earth_n without_o all_o doubt_n it_o can_v not_o be_v find_v in_o heaven_n neither_o must_v we_o exprect_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n from_o heaven_n as_o the_o anabaptist_n do_v who_o seek_v for_o revelation_n from_o heaven_n but_o we_o must_v look_v to_o receive_v it_o from_o the_o controversiae_fw-la supr_fw-la c._n 1._o huius_fw-la controversiae_fw-la church_n militant_a upon_o earth_n moreover_o the_o property_n and_o office_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n before_o allege_v out_o of_o holy_a scripture_n do_v not_o agree_v as_o be_v manifest_a to_o the_o church_n triumphant_a of_o saint_n but_o to_o the_o church_n militant_a upon_o earth_n for_o neither_o be_v that_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n betroth_v unto_o christ_n by_o faith_n neither_o be_v the_o saint_n those_o who_o preach_v unto_o we_o the_o word_n of_o god_n who_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n unto_o we_o &_o who_o execute_v the_o other_o office_n of_o the_o church_n but_o man_n live_v upon_o earth_n wherefore_o they_o run_v in_o vain_a to_o this_o heavenly_a church_n whereof_o we_o do_v not_o here_o dispute_v 17._o moreover_o that_o be_v also_o a_o very_a weak_a reason_n whereby_o they_o think_v that_o 8._o junius_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 8._o they_o convince_v that_o the_o church_n militant_a upon_o earth_n may_v err_v this_o church_n say_v he_o militant_a upon_o earth_n be_v imperfect_a and_o therefore_o she_o may_v err_v even_o in_o explicate_v the_o doctrine_n of_o say_v for_o otherwise_o a_o perfect_a effect_n may_v proceed_v caput_fw-la 1._o cor._n 13●_n per_fw-la totum_fw-la caput_fw-la from_o a_o imperfect_a cause_n so_o ●e_n as_o though_o forsooth_o there_o can_v be_v no_o other_o imperfection_n in_o the_o church_n beside_o infidelity_n or_o error_n in_o explicate_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n or_o as_o though_o the_o whole_a perfection_n of_o the_o church_n consist_v in_o faith_n only_o and_o in_o the_o doctrine_n thereof_o and_o not_o also_o in_o charity_n and_o other_o gifte●_n of_o god_n as_o the_o apostle_n declare_v at_o large_a or_o last_o as_o though_o this_o perfection_n of_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v in_o a_o right_a faith_n and_o a_o good_a explication_n of_o the_o doctrine_n thereof_o can_v proceed_v from_o the_o militant_a church_n only_o and_o not_o rather_o from_o a_o most_o perfect_a cause_n to_o wit_n from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o continual_o 26._o ad_fw-la rom._n 8._o v._n 26._o govern_v the_o church_n and_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v help_v her_o infirmity_n and_o imperfection_n 18._o last_o when_o our_o adversary_n 6._o ita_fw-la philip_n mor._n tract_n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 9_o genes_n 3._o v._n 6._o can_v by_o no_o place_n of_o scripture_n nor_o other_o reason_n prove_v that_o the_o church_n have_v err_v they_o g●e_v about_o to_o persuade_v i●_n by_o many_o example_n and_o here_o they_o be●in_v a_o discourse_n from_o our_o first_o father_n adam_n till_o these_o our_o da●es_n for_o first_o they_o say_v that_o adam_n lose_v his_o faith_n and_o so_o likewise_o his_o wy●e_n eve_n when_o they_o both_o eat_v of_o the_o forbidden_a fruit_n &_o consequent_o the_o whole_o church_n then_o err_v in_o faith_n then_o they_o run_v through_o all_o the_o old_a testament_n till_o christ_n time_n and_o heap_v together_o many_o place_n which_o say_v that_o those_o who_o live_v in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o natural_a &_o moysaicall_a law_n forsake_v god_n last_o out_o of_o some_o historiographer_n who_o have_v write_v since_o christ_n time_n they_o scrape_v together_o all_o such_o testimony_n as_o sleme_v to_o serve_v to_o this_o purpose_n in_o any_o sort_n 19_o but_o they_o labour_v in_o vain_a for_o if_o these_o kind_n of_o argument_n be_v good_a they_o will_v also_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n itself_o also_o whole_o perish_v and_o be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o place_n as_o in_o time_n past_o the_o donatist_n contend_v the_o which_o even_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o acknowledge_v to_o by_o very_o absurd_a and_o against_o the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o have_v be_v declare_v before_o for_o if_o all_o have_v lose_v their_o faith_n than_o indeed_o the_o true_a church_n can_v no_o long_o be_v which_o without_o faith_n can_v consist_v and_o thus_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v perish_v 20._o but_o that_o which_o they_o affirm_v of_o adam_n and_o ●ue_v to_o wit_n that_o they_o lose_v their_o faith_n by_o sin_v be_v of_o no_o moment_n at_o all_o for_o to_o omit_v that_o they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o prove_v by_o that_o argument_n that_o they_o lose_v their_o faith_n then_o that_o after_o their_o sin_n there_o remain_v neither_o any_o faith_n nor_o church_n in_o the_o world_n it_o be_v true_o manifest_a enough_o that_o this_o belong_v nothing_o to_o this_o disputation_n we_o now_o handle_v for_o neither_o do_v we_o here_o dispute_v of_o the_o church_n of_o angel_n nor_o of_o that_o which_o be_v in_o paradise_n before_o the_o fall_n of_o our_o first_o parent_n but_o of_o that_o only_a 15._o gen._n 3_o v._n 15._o which_o ensue_v that_o promise_n make_v unto_o all_o mankind_n after_o the_o sin_n of_o adam_n wherein_o god_n foretell_v that_o there_o shall_v be_v perpetual_a enmity_n betwixt_o the_o woman_n and_o the_o serpent_n that_o be_v to_o say_v betwixt_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o satan_n and_o wherein_o also_o god_n foretell_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v always_o have_v the_o victory_n 18._o supra_fw-la controu_fw-fr 1._o cap_n 16._o 17._o &_o 18._o over_o satan_n as_o we_o have_v declare_v more_o at_o large_a before_o wherefore_o our_o adversary_n must_v needs_o show_v this_o promise_n to_o be_v frustrate_a if_o they_o desire_v to_o conclude_v any_o thing_n against_o us._n 21._o but_o those_o example_n which_o they_o argumenti_fw-la supra_fw-la cap._n 5._o in_o solut_a 2._o argumenti_fw-la allege_v our_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v the_o very_a argument_n of_o the_o donatist_n and_o other_o ancient_a heretic_n who_o by_o they_o go_v about_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v whole_o decay_v and_o perish_v whereunto_o we_o have_v also_o sufficient_o answer_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n 22._o and_o last_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o have_v take_v out_o of_o those_o author_n who_o write_v after_o christ_n time_n be_v either_o corrupt_v by_o our_o adversary_n or_o take_v out_o of_o apocryphal_a author_n and_o such_o as_o be_v annal._n baron_fw-fr in_o 12._o tom._n annal._n not_o worthy_a of_o credit_n as_o the_o worthy_a cardinal_n baronius_n declare_v manifest_o in_o every_o age_n in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a history_n and_o the_o same_o have_v bellarmine_n do_v before_o militante_fw-la bellarm._n l._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n militante_fw-la he_o more_o brief_o unto_o who_o we_o refer_v the_o reader_n because_o they_o do_v not_o appertain_v to_o this_o present_a question_n but_o rather_o unto_o that_o which_o be_v of_o the_o continual_a duration_n of_o the_o church_n the_o which_o now_o almost_o every_o one_o do_v acknowledge_v and_o controu_n supr_fw-la c._n 3._o &_o 4._o buius_fw-la controu_n which_o we_o have_v sufficient_o declare_v before_o wherefore_o these_o argument_n be_v of_o so_o small_a worth_n that_o they_o need_v no_o long_o a_o confutation_n chap._n viii_o that_o there_o be_v no_o lawful_a call_v of_o preacher_n or_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n but_o by_o the_o visible_a church_n one_o of_o the_o office_n of_o the_o true_a church_n be_v to_o appoint_v lawful_a preacher_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o true_a administer_v of_o
add_v also_o some_o other_o natural_a reason_n and_o perwasion_n that_o they_o may_v be_v convert_v for_o there_o be_v many_o thing_n in_o holy_a scripture_n which_o seem_v opposite_a to_o natural_a reason_n as_o the_o mysterye_n of_o the_o bless_a trinity_n incarnation_n &_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a etc._n etc._n 9_o nine_o there_o want_v last_o of_o all_o the_o ten_o property_n for_o there_o be_v nothing_o extant_a of_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o apostle_n creed_n 10._o the_o holy_a scripture_n indeed_o be_v the_o ground_n and_o reason_n why_o we_o believe_v many_o point_n of_o faith_n but_o not_o the_o ground_n why_o we_o believe_v all_o moreover_o neither_o be_v it_o the_o first_o ground_n of_o all_o that_o we_o believe_v by_o it_o for_o the_o scripture_n itself_o be_v prove_v by_o some_o other_o more_o general_a ground_n to_o wit_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n wherefore_o the_o scripture_n be_v only_o a_o particular_a ground_n and_o not_o a_o general_a a_o mediate_a and_o not_o immediate_a a_o secondary_a and_o not_o the_o first_o and_o chief_a rule_n of_o faith_n chap._n four_o that_o the_o private_a or_o particular_a spirit_n of_o every_o one_o be_v not_o the_o ground_n or_o rule_v of_o faith_n that_o no_o private_a spirit_n of_o any_o can_v be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v far_o more_o evident_a by_o the_o same_o property_n now_o allege_v for_o none_o of_o these_o ten_o property_n do_v agree_v with_o the_o private_a spirit_n of_o every_o one_o that_o believe_v the_o which_o we_o declare_v by_o these_o argument_n 1._o first_o there_o want_v the_o foresay_a continuance_n for_o there_o be_v no_o private_a or_o particular_a person_n who_o have_v continue_v from_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o world_n or_o shall_v endure_v till_o the_o end_n thereof_o as_o faith_n have_v continue_v 2._o second_o there_o want_v truth_n because_o there_o be_v no_o private_a man_n to_o be_v find_v which_o can_v err_v and_o be_v deceive_v for_o as_o witness_v the_o apostle_n every_o man_n be_v 4._o rom._n 3._o v._n 4._o a_o liar_n 3._o three_o there_o want_v certainty_n in_o propose_v matter_n of_o faith_n unto_o we_o because_o none_o can_v be_v certain_a that_o any_o private_a person_n can_v have_v such_o a_o spirit_n yea_o even_o in_o our_o adversary_n judgement_n for_o the_o predestinate_a only_o in_o their_o opinion_n have_v this_o spirit_n even_o as_o they_o only_o in_o their_o judgment_n have_v the_o true_a faith_n but_o the_o predestinate_a be_v know_v to_o none_o but_o only_o to_o god_n according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o apostle_n god_n know_v who_o be_v he_o the_o which_o caluin_n 2._o 2._o tim._n 2_o v._n 19_o cal._n l._n 4._o inst_z c._n 1._o sect_n 2._o express_o teach_v 4._o four_o the_o foresay_a strength_n and_o immutability_n be_v want_v for_o that_o a_o private_a man_n have_v not_o that_o strength_n and_o immutability_n of_o his_o doctrine_n our_o adversary_n themselves_o confess_v and_o experience_n teach_v we_o that_o they_o often_o time_n change_v their_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o at_o diverse_a time_n they_o teach_v plain_a contrary_n yea_o they_o confess_v that_o this_o their_o private_a spirit_n be_v not_o permanent_a with_o they_o but_o often_o time_n leave_v and_o forsake_v they_o the_o which_o they_o prove_v out_o of_o that_o place_n of_o the_o 29._o or_o 30._o psalm_n the_o eight_o verse_n thou_o have_v turn_v thy_o face_n from_o i_o and_o i_o become_v finem_fw-la with_fw-mi disp_n paris_n a_o 1566._o in_o disp_n 1._o di●i_fw-la sub_fw-la finem_fw-la trouble_v for_o thus_o they_o affirm_v in_o that_o famous_a disputation_n have_v at_o paris_n anno_fw-la 1566._o 5._o five_o there_o want_v that_o fullness_n &_o sufficiency_n because_o no_o private_a man_n can_v define_v all_o point_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o many_o be_v define_v before_o he_o be_v bear_v against_o the_o ancient_a heretic_n and_o there_o will_v be_v many_o thing_n define_v in_o the_o church_n after_o his_o death_n assoon_o as_o there_o shall_v arise_v any_o new_a heresy_n 6._o six_o there_o want_v necessity_n for_o before_o there_o be_v any_o private_a man_n which_o now_o live_v there_o be_v true_a faith_n and_o the_o same_o faith_n will_v continue_v after_o he_o be_v dead_a 7._o seaventh_o there_o want_v the_o seven_o property_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o by_o this_o private_a spirit_n a_o christian_a can_v be_v distinguish_v from_o a_o infidel_n but_o in_o truth_n all_o heretic_n do_v brag_v and_o boast_v that_o they_o have_v this_o private_a spirit_n whereas_o notwithstanding_o one_o condemn_v or_o rather_o damn_v another_o 8._o eight_o there_o want_v the_o eight_o property_n for_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v certain_o deduce_v out_o of_o this_o private_a spirit_n only_o see_v that_o it_o be_v oftentimes_o uncertain_a and_o deceitful_a 9_o nine_o there_o want_v the_o nine_o property_n for_o it_o be_v a_o ridiculous_a thing_n for_o one_o to_o endeavour_v to_o 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