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The Exercitation answered, in the assertions following made good against it. 1 That the usurpation pretended by the exercitator is really no usurpation, by any thing that he hath said to prove it such. 2 That former oaths in controversie oblige not against obedience to present powers. 3 That obedience is due to powers in possession, though unlawfully enter'd.
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by_o public_a and_o supreme_a magistrate_n and_o those_o too_o all_o person_n of_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n except_v the_o maccabee_n whereas_o if_o he_o will_v have_v speak_v to_o the_o purpose_n he_o must_v have_v give_v a_o instance_n from_o scripture_n of_o some_o private_a saint_n resist_v a_o public_a magistrate_n obtain_v upon_o pretence_n that_o in_o his_o judgement_n the_o title_n of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o good_a but_o that_o indeed_o be_v a_o task_n too_o hard_o for_o the_o whole_a tribe_n of_o exercitator_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o have_v sufficient_o confute_v himself_o in_o the_o instance_n concern_v athaliah_n for_o see_v the_o text_n fare_v express_o athaliah_n reign_v six_o year_n and_o all_o man_n know_v there_o can_v be_v no_o reign_v without_o subjection_n it_o follow_v private_a person_n must_v be_v subject_a to_o usurper_n in_o possession_n again_o whereas_o jehoiada_n and_o those_o ruler_n over_o hundred_o stir_v not_o for_o joash_n his_o right_n till_o the_o end_n of_o six_o year_n nor_o then_o neither_o but_o with_o such_o caution_n as_o prevent_v the_o embroil_v of_o the_o commonwealth_n it_o be_v clear_a that_o public_a person_n and_o chief_a magistrate_n may_v not_o remove_v a_o usurper_n in_o the_o most_o clear_a and_o uncontroverted_a case_n with_o danger_n and_o disturbance_n to_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o last_o whereas_o it_o be_v say_v athaliah_n reign_v it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o scripture_n speak_v of_o usurper_n in_o possession_n as_o of_o magistrate_n and_o not_o private_a person_n but_o he_o urge_v a_o lawful_a call_n from_o the_o people_n be_v essential_a to_o a_o magistrate_n it_o be_v answer_v first_o few_o kingdom_n in_o europe_n have_v be_v so_o begin_v or_o indeed_o otherwise_o then_o by_o conquest_n and_o if_o a_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n come_v after_o what_o be_v that_o but_o a_o effect_n of_o force_n and_o herein_o be_v brief_o but_o clear_o answer_v all_o that_o he_o have_v say_v for_o the_o lawful_a call_n of_o his_o roman_a emperor_n for_o what_o tully_n cite_v by_o himself_o say_v of_o one_o may_v with_o the_o same_o truth_n be_v say_v concern_v all_o the_o rest_n he_o have_v orar._n have_v attulerat_fw-la jam_fw-la liberae_fw-la civitati_fw-la partim_fw-la meru_fw-la partim_fw-la patientia_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la serviendi_fw-la cicero_n in_o m._n a_o philip._n 2._o orar._n now_o reduce_v the_o city_n of_o rome_n from_o a_o state_n of_o liberty_n to_o a_o custom_n of_o servitude_n partly_o by_o fear_n and_o partly_o by_o suffer_v to_o which_o add_v that_o notable_a testimony_n of_o tacitus_n concern_v tiberius_n out_o of_o his_o own_o mouth_n it_o be_v record_v say_v tacitus_n that_o tiberius_n as_o often_o as_o he_o go_v out_o of_o the_o senate_n be_v wont_a to_o use_v expression_n aloud_o in_o greek_a 3._o memorae_fw-la proditur_fw-la tiberum_fw-la quoties_fw-la curia_fw-la egrederetur_fw-la grecis_fw-la verbis_fw-la in_o bunc_fw-la modum_fw-la elequi_fw-la selitum_fw-la oho_o mines_n ad_fw-la servitviem_fw-la paratos_fw-la scilicet_fw-la etiam_fw-la illum_fw-la qui_fw-la libertatem_fw-la publicam_fw-la nollet_fw-la tamprojectae_fw-la seruient_fw-fr ium_o patientiae_fw-la taedehat_fw-la tacit._n an._n l._n 3._o and_o to_o this_o effect_n o_o man_n prepare_v for_o servitude_n the_o trnth_v be_v though_o himself_o be_v against_o public_a liberty_n yet_o he_o loathe_v at_o their_o base_a patience_n in_o submit_v themselves_o to_o servitude_n behold_v his_o own_o conscience_n condemn_v he_o of_o usurpation_n upon_o the_o public_a liberty_n and_o yet_o the_o exercitator_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o enforce_v a_o title_n upon_o he_o though_o therein_o he_o oppose_v himself_o to_o the_o general_o receive_v judgement_n of_o the_o most_o approve_a writer_n of_o all_o sort_n as_o be_v easy_a to_o show_v if_o time_n will_v give_v leave_n but_o second_o what_o if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o particular_a person_n call_v to_o the_o office_n of_o magistracy_n be_v such_o as_o the_o exercitator_n will_v have_v it_o yet_o the_o essence_n of_o magistracy_n itself_o consist_v not_o in_o this_o call_n and_o may_v therefore_o subsist_v without_o it_o neither_o can_v the_o disorder_n of_o man_n in_o the_o manner_n or_o circumstance_n about_o the_o person_n administer_a make_v the_o matter_n or_o substance_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n of_o none_o effect_n no_o more_o than_o the_o enter_v into_o the_o office_n of_o a_o high_a priest_n among_o the_o jew_n by_o way_n corrupt_a and_o unwarantable_a do_v null_n and_o make_v void_a the_o office_n self_n or_o to_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o our_o own_o clear_a and_o unquestionable_a it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o person_n undue_o choose_v member_n of_o parliament_n have_v proper_o no_o right_a to_o fit_v and_o vote_n in_o the_o house_n yet_o their_o vote_n be_v never_o the_o less_o valid_a in_o any_o act_n of_o the_o supreme_a legislative_a power_n though_o afterward_o the_o undunesse_fw-fr of_o the_o election_n be_v prove_v and_o the_o person_n discharge_v from_o further_a fit_v in_o the_o house_n the_o like_a may_v be_v say_v concern_v usurp_a prince_n of_o this_o nation_n who_o act_n in_o law_n stand_v good_a at_o this_o day_n and_o have_v a_o great_a influence_n into_o the_o present_a policy_n among_o we_o but_o here_o the_o exercitator_n reply_v thereis_n a_o mistake_n in_o this_o argument_n for_o though_o those_o usurp_a prince_n enter_v by_o force_n or_o otherwise_o unlawful_o yet_o they_o have_v the_o concurrent_a or_o subsequent_a consent_n of_o parliament_n be_v ever_o man_n more_o gross_o mistake_v that_o will_v pretend_v himself_o a_o aristarchus_n over_o the_o mistake_v of_o other_o for_o first_o what_o power_n by_o his_o own_o ground_n have_v one_o that_o enter_v by_o force_n or_o otherwise_o unlawful_o that_o be_v a_o usurper_n to_o call_v a_o parliament_n a_o usurper_n if_o himself_o say_v true_a be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o private_a person_n and_o if_o a_o private_a person_n by_o force_n or_o otherwise_o unlawful_o call_v a_o parliament_n what_o be_v that_o parliament_n but_o a_o effect_n of_o that_o force_n and_o unlawful_a act_n and_o therefore_o itself_o unlawful_a for_o the_o effect_n follow_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o cause_n nay_o second_o what_o power_n by_o his_o own_o ground_n have_v a_o parliament_n however_o call_v to_o give_v away_o the_o right_n from_o he_o hat_n have_v it_o to_o he_o that_o have_v none_o the_o people_n or_o the_o exercitator_n be_v miss_v ken_n have_v no_o power_n to_o give_v their_o consent_n be_v pre_v age_v to_o another's_o right_n nay_o their_o consent_n unless_o the_o exercitator_n be_v fill_v in_o a_o mistake_n be_v void_a and_o null_a and_o a_o parliament_n he_o tell_v we_o have_v no_o power_n but_o what_o the_o people_n give_v they_o but_o three_o grant_v parliament_n so_o call_v as_o have_v be_v say_v lawful_a and_o the_o usurp_a prince_n legal_o invest_v as_o the_o grand_a corrector_n of_o mistake_n speak_v by_o those_o parliament_n and_o grant_v which_o be_v also_o his_o own_o that_o the_o prince_n must_v have_v no_o hand_n in_o confer_v any_o thing_n to_o his_o own_o title_n for_o that_o be_v as_o he_o say_v a_o selfe-created_n title_n when_o all_o be_v past_a the_o worst_a be_v to_o come_v for_o the_o exercitater_n for_o from_o the_o premise_n it_o will_v inevitable_o follow_v first_o that_o the_o supreme_a power_n be_v original_o proper_o and_o only_o in_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o for_o they_o only_o be_v the_o representative_n and_o by_o consequence_n the_o trustee_n of_o the_o people_n and_o therefore_o they_o only_o can_v give_v a_o prince_n a_o legal_a title_n because_o if_o our_o exercitator_n be_v not_o mistake_v in_o his_o very_a foundation_n a_o lawful_a call_n from_o the_o people_n be_v essential_a to_o a_o magistrate_n right_o constitute_v second_o it_o follow_v clear_o that_o the_o supreme_a power_n be_v so_o absolute_o in_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o that_o they_o may_v without_o wrong_n take_v the_o kingly_a authority_n from_o he_o that_o have_v the_o right_a and_o give_v both_o right_a and_o it_o to_o he_o that_o have_v none_o 3_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o if_o they_o have_v as_o by_o the_o premise_n the_o most_o have_v a_o obsolute_a power_n to_o take_v the_o kingly_a authority_n from_o who_o and_o give_v it_o to_o who_o they_o think_v meet_v they_o have_v also_o a_o power_n when_o they_o shall_v think_v meet_a to_o reserve_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o to_o themselves_o if_o they_o shall_v judge_v it_o meet_v for_o the_o good_a of_o the_o representee_n otherwise_o they_o shall_v be_v unfaithful_a to_o their_o trust_n last_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o commons_o sit_v not_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o prince_n call_v but_o their_o own_o right_n for_o a_o usurper_n as_o it_o be_v confess_v such_o be_v the_o prince_n in_o question_n at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o call_n be_v but_o a_o private_a
to_o public_a justice_n and_o peace_n in_o a_o word_n as_o much_o in_o its_o own_o nature_n and_o as_o necessary_o privative_a of_o and_o opposite_a to_o the_o public_a good_a and_o well-being_n of_o the_o nation_n as_o the_o privation_n of_o and_o opposition_n to_o the_o proper_a immediate_a and_o necessary_a mean_n be_v in_o its_o own_o nature_n and_o necessary_o privative_a of_o and_o opposite_a to_o the_o end_n itself_o whereupon_o it_o follow_v evident_o and_o undeniable_o that_o to_o such_o a_o sinful_a resistance_n of_o the_o power_n administer_a there_o can_v be_v no_o obligation_n and_o consequent_o the_o oath_n object_v in_o that_o respect_n be_v void_a by_o our_o exercitator_n own_o concession_n and_o to_o evince_v this_o yet_o more_o full_o if_o at_o least_o there_o can_v be_v a_o full_a eviction_n from_o his_o own_o principle_n and_o expresion_n we_o say_v on_o all_o hand_n say_v our_o exercitator_n page_v 33._o the_o king_n it_o for_o the_o kingdom_n as_o the_o mean_n be_v for_o the_o end_n and_o the_o same_o in_o effect_n we_o have_v from_o the_o mouth_n of_o a_o king_n confess_v and_o therewithal_o confirm_v this_o truth_n as_o a_o royal_a law_n that_o the_o king_n be_v for_o the_o commonwealth_n and_o not_o the_o commonwealth_n for_o the_o king_n which_o grant_v james_n king_n james_n if_o oath_n and_o duty_n do_v as_o indeed_o they_o must_v oblige_v to_o respect_v thing_n concern_v according_a to_o their_o own_o rank_n and_o dignity_n and_o the_o rule_n hold_v always_o true_a as_o indeed_o it_o can_v never_o fail_v that_o finis_fw-la quo_fw-la ultimatior_fw-la co_fw-la influxu_fw-la potentior_fw-la the_o high_a end_n have_v the_o strong_a influence_n and_o to_o that_o end_n as_o our_o full_a answer_n very_o full_o still_o all_o other_o subordinate_a end_n stand_v but_o in_o the_o office_n of_o mean_n it_o be_v clear_a that_o as_o both_o the_o oath_n be_v for_o the_o king_n and_o both_o king_n and_o oath_n for_o the_o commonwealth_n as_o subordinate_a mean_n for_o the_o ultimate_a end_n so_o both_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o oblige_v only_o as_o condue_n but_o neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o can_v oblige_v as_o destructive_a to_o the_o commonwealth_n or_o bonum_fw-la publicum_fw-la for_o so_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o mean_n shall_v be_v to_o destroy_v the_o end_n which_o be_v a_o contradiction_n in_o nature_n see_v the_o very_a essence_n and_o intrinsical_v form_n of_o the_o mean_n consist_v in_o this_o that_o they_o be_v apra_fw-la nata_fw-la ad_fw-la finent_a natural_o conduce_v to_o the_o end_n else_o they_o be_v but_o equivocal_o term_v mean_n in_o sum_n then_o we_o already_o have_v the_o mean_n sufficient_a by_o experience_n to_o the_o end_n we_o have_v the_o end_n as_o the_o actual_a fruit_n and_o effect_n of_o these_o mean_n and_o therefore_o if_o the_o oath_n object_v do_v oblige_v to_o destroy_v those_o meanu_n and_o with_o they_o the_o end_n by_o they_o already_o obtain_v that_o be_v if_o they_o oblige_v on_o the_o one_o side_n to_o subvert_v and_o all_o disobedience_n tend_v to_o subversion_n that_o order_n and_o government_n public_a justice_n and_o peace_n which_o be_v at_o present_a in_o the_o nation_n and_o on_o the_o other_o side_n in_o its_o stead_n to_o introduce_v disorder_n &_o anarchy_n war_n and_o consusion_n which_o all_o disobedience_n natural_o tend_v to_o introduce_v and_o all_o this_o upon_o pretonce_o to_o reobtain_v other_o mean_n if_o at_o least_o true_o mean_v though_o such_o as_o according_a to_o the_o present_a posture_n of_o the_o party_n concern_v probable_o be_v never_o or_o if_o ever_o to_o be_v obtain_v threaten_v to_o prove_v destructive_a to_o the_o end_n itself_o in_o such_o case_n and_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o such_o be_v the_o present_a case_n if_o impartial_o state_v the_o oath_n object_v apparent_o bind_v if_o say_v to_o bind_v to_o that_o which_o in_o its_o own_o nature_n and_o necessary_o be_v privative_a of_o and_o opposite_a to_o the_o public_a good_a and_o well-being_n of_o the_o nation_n and_o consequent_o the_o exercitator_n himself_o be_v judge_n they_o be_v to_o be_v pronounce_v void_a for_o to_o a_o sinful_a thing_n there_o can_v be_v no_o obligation_n so_o it_o remain_v that_o the_o true_a intent_n of_o the_o oath_n in_o controversy_n be_v final_o lodge_v in_o the_o good_a of_o the_o commonwealth_n neither_o have_v they_o any_o force_n to_o the_o destruction_n thereof_o but_o must_v needs_o be_v void_a if_o ever_o so_o intend_v by_o this_o time_n it_o be_v hope_v we_o have_v sufficiency_n expedit_v ourselves_o of_o the_o impeditive_a which_o our_o exercitator_n say_v will_v not_o be_v grant_v and_o demonstrate_v the_o privative_a part_n of_o his_o distinction_n we_o be_v now_o at_o leisure_n to_o hear_v what_o he_o say_v further_a that_o of_o the_o gibeonite_n be_v no_o way_n pertinent_a to_o the_o present_a case_n the_o inconvenience_n of_o that_o oath_n be_v quite_o of_o another_o nature_n bend_v they_o be_v make_v servant_n though_o there_o live_v be_v span_v which_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v at_o themercy_o of_o the_o israelite_n who_o consider_v their_o servitude_n be_v at_o no_o great_a loss_n by_o they_o but_o that_o their_o oath_n be_v unlawful_a vrsum_n flat_o deny_v nay_o he_o positive_o affirm_v pracept_v non_fw-la ideo_fw-la servatur_fw-la gibeonitis_n iuramen_fw-la â—tum_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la illum_fw-la obstingantur_fw-la &c_n &c_n vrsin_n cas._n tere._n pracept_v they_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o keep_v it_o but_o to_o pass_v over_o his_o impertinence_n and_o come_v to_o his_o weakness_n here_o he_o tell_v we_o and_o we_o have_v a_o glance_n at_o it_o before_o hat_n all_o authority_n bang_v not_o upon_o he_o back_o of_o vsorpation_n no_o how_o come_v he_o then_o to_o define_v it_o a_o intrusion_n into_o the_o seat_n of_o authority_n and_o a_o possess_n and_o manage_n of_o the_o place_n and_o power_n thereof_o so_o it_o seem_v though_o they_o intrude_v into_o the_o seat_n yet_o they_o be_v out_o of_o the_o seat_n and_o though_o they_o possess_v and_o manage_v the_o place_n and_o power_n yet_o they_o neither_o possess_v nor_o manage_v the_o place_n and_o power_n of_o authority_n which_o be_v a_o mere_a contradiction_n and_o so_o must_v needs_o be_v false_a because_o no_o contradiction_n can_v be_v true_a he_o be_v so_o ingenuous_a afterward_o as_o to_o grant_v the_o doctrine_n of_o obedience_n so_o much_o better_a than_o his_o own_o of_o disobedience_n as_o that_o it_o will_v afford_v a_o little_a justice_n but_o his_o own_o non_fw-la well_o but_o he_o sale_n we_o be_v not_o teach_v this_o doctrine_n of_o obedience_n when_o the_o parliamen_n begin_v to_o stand_v up_o and_o waken_v the_o people_n to_o shake_v off_o expilation_n and_o oppression_n certain_o when_o the_o parliament_n begin_v we_o be_v not_o teach_v by_o any_o but_o such_o as_o plead_v for_o the_o cause_n of_o that_o expiration_n and_o oppression_n whereof_o he_o speak_v that_o the_o commons_o in_o parliament_n be_v no_o house_n be_v usurper_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o either_o this_o exercitator_n from_o the_o beginning_n be_v one_o of_o the_o common_a enemy_n against_o who_o we_o covenant_v or_o else_o contrary_a to_o the_o express_a text_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o the_o fix_a article_n have_v make_v a_o defection_n to_o they_o for_o the_o take_v up_o their_o weapon_n and_o fight_n their_o battle_n however_o he_o will_v be_v think_v a_o champion_n for_o he_o covenant_n again_o i_o can_v but_o wonder_v at_o the_o ignorance_n of_o this_o silly_a objection_n for_o have_v the_o expilation_n which_o he_o take_v of_o be_v tenfold_o more_o than_o be_v no_o man_n that_o either_o have_v knowledge_n or_o conscience_n of_o what_o he_o teach_v will_v have_v teach_v to_o have_v lift_v up_o so_o much_o as_o a_o finger_n against_o the_o expilator_n have_v we_o not_o have_v the_o impreame_a power_n of_o the_o nation_n in_o peaceable_a and_o plenary_a possession_n to_o call_v we_o forth_o by_o authority_n and_o commission_n we_o into_o order_n and_o a_o cause_n unquestionable_o just_a to_o justify_v those_o commission_n nay_o the_o war_n on_o the_o parliament_n side_n be_v defensive_a not_o offensive_a the_o end_n can_v never_o be_v the_o subversion_n of_o that_o order_n and_o government_n public_a justice_n and_o peace_n which_o the_o nation_n then_o actual_o enjoy_v as_o our_o exercitator_n end_v though_o a_o pretender_n to_o be_v studious_a of_o peace_n real_o be_v but_o indeed_o by_o a_o defence_n less_o necessary_a than_o just_a to_o prevent_v the_o subversion_n of_o all_o these_o apparent_o endeavour_v by_o the_o actual_a invasion_n of_o delinquent_n of_o all_o sort_n and_o size_n the_o doctrine_n of_o disobedience_n than_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o exercitator_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o park_n not_o as_o themselves_o say_v of_o old_a puritan_n but_o what_o may_v