Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	call_v	court_n	judge_n	1,450	5	7.1812	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A02679	The excommunication published by the L. archbishop of Dublin Thomas Flemming aliàs Barnwell friar of the Order of S. Francis, against the inhabitants of the diocesse of Dublin, for hearing the masses of Peter Caddell D. of Divinity, and Paul Harris priests, is proved not onely injust, but of no validity, and consequently binding to no obedience. In which treatise is also discovered that impious plot and policy of the aforesaid archbishop and his friars in supplanting the pastors and priests of the clergy, thereby to bring all into the hands of the friars, of whose disorders and foule abuses (especially in this kingdome) something is noted. The second edition, enlarged. By me Paul Harris priest.	Harris, Paul, 1573-1635?; Caddell, Peter. aut; Fleming, Thomas, 1593-1666. aut	1633 (1633)	STC 12810; ESTC S116899	71,181	112

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his_o friar_n fall_v upon_o the_o most_o ingenious_a kind_n of_o persecution_n &_o withal_o the_o most_o impious_a that_o ever_o in_o any_o age_n be_v practise_v yea_o i_o challenge_v all_o antiquity_n since_o the_o ascension_n of_o our_o saviour_n to_o give_v a_o example_n of_o the_o like_a for_o first_o attempt_v by_o regal_a power_n rather_o than_o episcopal_a to_o banish_v they_o out_o his_o diocese_n &_o that_o without_o allege_v any_o cause_n against_o they_o &_o find_v this_o not_o to_o succeed_v with_o he_o he_o than_o command_v under_o pain_n of_o excommunication_n that_o none_o shall_v be_v present_a at_o their_o mass_n know_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o prejudicial_a unto_o they_o in_o regard_n of_o their_o temporal_a maintenance_n nor_o nothing_o less_o troublesome_a unto_o the_o people_n for_o