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A86188 Judas excommunicated, or A vindication of the communion of saints: being a brief examination and clear refutation of Mr Peter Lightfoots arguments for proof of Judas his receiving the sacrament of the Lords Supper, (which, could he prove, makes nothing at all for a mixt Communion.) / By Joseph Heming, a servant to all men in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Heming, Joseph. 1649 (1649) Wing H1420; Thomason E565_5; ESTC R206114 14,086 27

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vain foclish irrational contradictory assertion 't is to say and unsay and in plain English to say just nothing at all And for those that have been hanged at Tyburn c. unless b● can prove that they were not by Raptism admitted into his Church nor be into theirs or that they were first excommunicated which be shall never do and besides let him but once mention Exce●●munication with Approbation and his cause is utterly lost or 〈◊〉 less he will eat his own words deny a National Church in so gross a sence as ●e ●ol●s one or joyn with us in order to a Reformation let him fret and fu●●e huff and puss●rage and storm call and miss●●●● while ●e will they must and shall be his brethren c 't is he 〈◊〉 made them so not therefore let none he offended with me W●● he ●is●la●ms that Communion he plead● for the bonds of this brother-hood will be loosed and not before I confess I was once of this brother-hood my self but now I abhor and loath it And yet I look upon all men whatsoever as my brethren in this sence viz. as we are the off spring of and have dependency upon the same eternal Being Acts 17.28 29. He is willing such at Judas was should be his Brethren-Co 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 nicants and do Drunkards Th●eves Murderers Lyars c. ex●●ed Judas in Wickedness He is called a Devil John 6.70 and we such worse then Devils Behold then a Communion of w●se then Devils What are the ends of the mans arguings I wish be would declare them to us But to hasten to a period the viles● men in England professing Faith in Christ shall be his brethren but it vexeth him to the heart they should be called so Whereas he bla●oneth abroad That I grant Judas received c. as though he had obtained his end As I doubt not but all ●●antions men will smile at his folly so for satisfaction of the lowest capacities amongst u● I am willing to say again 't is not 〈…〉 ●ath proved it or ever will whilst he liveth bu● because he shall not say what I contend for viz a Communion of Saints 〈◊〉 upon Judas his receiving or not receiving Admit he did sh●●os● in ●e granted I say yet that doth not in the least measure advantege his or prejudice my cause L●t him draw his inferences When he gives ou● be could quickly be re●●●●led to unto he acknowledgeth the difference in affection is only on his part and be speaks most truly for I am willing to have the love of all man and to live peaceably with them so far as possibly I may ●a●● I 〈…〉 compliancy with any man to the prejudice and dis-advantage of the truth My very adversarious must needs confess I have b●●n so ●ar from preaching Contention Strife and Division amongst godly man of dissenting judgments in matters of Worship that I have ●nd●●vored to make up all branche● and to ●ust all names and 〈◊〉 of distinction behind my back Now good Friends and Readers do not say I have spoken any thing in passion or bitterness of spirit for if I may uso Po●●ls Asterveration 3 Cor. 1.23 I call God to record upon my soul I have not I find my very bowels are moved for him and ob● th●●●●e would smite upon his thigh and say What have I done I am so far from hating his person or seeking revenge for any injury done to me that I profess I will lay my very hands under his fies to do him good Here is one thing that I would have you and all men to take special notice of namely That Mr Light●oo● Communion D●●metrically opposeth 1. The Scriptures the plain Letter 1 Cor. 5.9 10 11. 2 Cor. 6.14.15 16 17 18. 2. His Creed or at least this Article of it viz. The Communion of Saints for I suppose he believes in God c. and in Jesus Christ c and in the Holy Ghost c. the holy Catholick Church but his Communion must be of ungodly s●o●ndal●● and no●●rious sinners and not of Saints 3. The Covenant by which we are bound to endeavor a Reformation according to the Word of God and the best Reformed Churches who abbor such Communions 4. The Directory which saith The ignorant and the scandalous are not fit to receive the Sacrament of the Lords Supper pag. ●● Yea the Common-Prayer-Book it self which shuts the doors against and keeps out open and notorious evil livers till they have manifested repentance for the satisfaction of the Congregation c. It seems his Reformation it to bring us into a far worse condition then ever we were in under Prelacy and Common-Prayer-Book 5. And lastly The Principles Hopes Expectations and joy●● Endeavors of all godly Ministers both of the Independent so called and more purely Presbyterial way who that it not wilfully blind will be of a Communion that thus sets it self in opposition to all that is called God or holy in every dispentsation and form of Worship● I shall trouble you with no more at present but carnestly entreat you seriously to consider of these things and the Lord give you understanding in every thing and lead you forth into the ways of Righteousness that you may walk blameless before him in Love Uttoxiter in Stafford-shire June 2. 1649. Yours as ye are Christs Jos Heming JVDAS Excommunicated OR A VINDICATION Of the Communion of Saints c. TO prove that Judas received the Sacrament Mr Light-foot deals with two Suppers the one at B●thany in the house of Simon the Leper Math. 26.6 Mark 14.3 The other at Jerusalem the Passeover night The Supper at Bethany saith he was before the feast of the Passeover Luke 22.1 namely two days before c. Mat. 26.2 Mark 14.1 Answer 1. I wonder a wise man should bring Luke 22.1 to prove the Supper at Bethany was before the Passeover though I confess it was so in which there is not the least mention of that Supper Just as if I should quote Math. 2.1 to prove that when Christ was born his mother laid him in a manger because there was no room for them in the Inn. 2. The following Scriptures viz. Math. 26.2 Mark 14.1 do not at all prove the Supper at Bethany to have been just two days before the Passeover but that two days before the Passeover the chief Priests and Scribes fought how they might take Gh●ist by craft and subtilty c. and at last concluded it must not be on the Feast day viz. the feast of the Passeover lest there should be an uproat c. Mark 14 1 2. 3. The Supper at Bethany is as likely to have been six days before the Passeover as two Then Jesus six days before the Passeover came to Bethany c. There they made him a Supper Joh. 12.1 2. Now here ariseth a great question between Mr Lightfoot and my self namely Which was the Supper at Bethany That mentioned Joh. ●2 1 2 3 c. Or That John 13.1 2 3 He