Selected quad for the lemma: cause_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
cause_n	call_v	church_n	word_n	1,925	5	4.0979	3	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A09739	Ane answer made the fourth day of Septembre a thousand fyue hundreth syxtie [and] one, by maister Theodore de Besza minister of the holie Euangile, in the presence of the quene mother, the king and quene of Nauarre, the princes of the blood royall, and of the priuie counseil, vnto that whiche the cardinall of Lorraine had replied against that whiche was propounded in the first iourney of their talking together, by the said de Besza in the name of the reformed churches. Together with an other short answer made by the said de Besza the 26 day of the said moneth vnto certein articles of replie set forth by the said cardinall	Bèze, Théodore de, 1519-1605.; Baron, John.	1562 (1562)	STC 2000; ESTC S119255	24,857	90

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the_o same_o with_o the_o true_a and_o incorruptible_a food_n now_o if_o there_o be_v preach_v of_o y_fw-fr e_o word_n and_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n chur●●_n it_o must_v of_o force_n be_v conclude_v that_o there_o be_v pastor_n and_o doctor_n unto_o who_o this_o charge_n must_v be_v commit_v according_a to_o that_o which_o the_o scripture_n thereof_o witness_v every_o where_o &_o namely_o in_o y_z t_o w_o c_o is_z write_v unto_o the_o corinthiens_n &_o to_o y_fw-fr e_fw-it ephesiens_n 12_o therefore_o may_v you_o see_v why_o y_a e_o some_o put_v to_o y_z e_z third_o mark_n that_o be_v to_o say_v y_z e_z ordinary_a succession_n from_o y_z e_z time_n of_o the_o apostle_n 4._o 4._o whereunto_o we_o answer_v you_o to_o such_o a_o succession_n be_v great_o to_o be_v praise_v provide_v always_o that_o it_o be_v well_o consider_v &_o apply_v as_o some_o have_v often_o time_n therewith_o strengthen_v themselves_o against_o the_o newness_n of_o heretic_n as_o appear_v in_o 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and_o therefore_o god_n teach_v by_o they_o but_o if_o they_o will_v teach_v their_o own_o doctrine_n nether_a hear_v you_o they_o nor_o do_v you_o those_o thing_n that_o they_o speak_v the_o which_o thing_n y_z e_o same_o authoure_n expound_v yet_o more_o at_o large_a in_o his_o 49_o sermon_n de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la domini_fw-la so_o therefore_o my_o lord_n to_o return_v again_o to_o the_o point_n because_o tha●_n the_o false_a prophet_n may_v succeed_v unto_o the_o trow_v 11·_a and_o w●●es_n unto_o the_o right_a shepherdess_n behold_v a_o 〈◊〉_d peremptory_a for_o the_o w_n c_o we_o esteem_v a_o personal_a succession_n nor_o only_a to_o be_v receive_v but_o altogether_o to_o be_v condemn_v as_o give_v occasion_n ●nto_fw-la falset_fw-la except_o that_o the_o succession_n of_o the_o doctrine_n be_v join_v thereunto_o for_o the_o foundation_n furthermore_o if_o this_o personal_a succession_n be_v simple_o hold_v for_o a_o infallible_a mark_n of_o the_o church_n it_o behove_v then_o to_o show_v we_o some_o promise_n of_o god_n by_o w_n c_o he_o ha_v 〈◊〉_d and_o bind_v his_o grace_n unto_o certain_a seat_n or_o region_n y_z t_z which_o thing_n we_o suppose_v can_v not_o be_v find_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o right_a well_o know_v we_o that_o there_o be_v always_o a_o catholic_a church_n that_o be_v a_o universal_a church_n forasmuch_o as_o the_o particular_a membre_n thereof_o be_v scatter_v here_o &_o there_o part_n throughout_o the_o hole_n world_n according_a as_o it_o please_v god_n to_o exercise_v his_o judgement_n upon_o some_o of_o they_o that_o he_o ha_v either_o altogether_o cut_v of_o or_o else_o that_o he_o ha_v chastened_a for_o a_o time_n and_o his_o mercy_n upon_o other_o some_o of_o they_o y_fw-fr t_o he_o

of_o no_o value_n unto_o salvation_n not_o that_o the_o fault_n thereof_o come_v of_o god_n but_o of_o the_o man_n that_o will_v be_v deaf_a follow_v y_o it_o which_o be_v common_o say_v that_o there_o be_v none_o deaf_o 22._o than_o he_o y_o it_o will_v not_o understand_v and_o of_o this_o call_n ha_v the_o lord_n speak_v when_o he_o say_v 22._o there_o be_v many_o call_v and_o few_o choose_v behold_v therefore_o consequent_o it_o behove_v that_o this_o name_n of_o the_o church_n signify_v the_o company_n of_o they_o that_o be_v gather_v together_o by_o the_o voice_n of_o god_n which_o ha_v call_v they_o be_v take_v two_o way_n for_o be_v take_v general_o for_o al●_n they_o which_o make_v outward_a profession_n to_o answer_v unto_o god_n which_o call_v they_o there_o be_v no_o doubt_n bu●_n there_o be_v many_o hypocrite_n and_o reprobat_fw-la comprehend_v therein_o and_o for_o our_o part_n my_o lord_n cardinal_n never_o god_n be_v praise_v have_v we_o speak_v nor_o write_v otherways_o 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