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A00916 An adioynder to the supplement of Father Robert Persons his discussion of M. Doctor Barlowes ansvvere &c. Contayning a discouery, and confutation of very many foule absurdityes, falsities, and lyes in M. D. Andrewes his Latin booke intituled, Responsio ad apologiam Cardinalis Bellarmini &c. An answere to the apology of Card. Bellarmine. Written by F.T. ... Also an appendix touching a register alleaged by M. Franc. Mason for the lawfull ordayning of Protestant bishops in Q. Elizabeths raigne. Fitzherbert, Thomas, 1552-1640. 1613 (1613) STC 11022; ESTC S102269 348,102 542

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martyr_n etc._n etc._n 21._o thus_o say_v s._n basil_n which_o i_o have_v the_o more_o large_o lay_v down_o to_o the_o end_n thou_o may_v see_v good_a reader_n not_o only_o what_o benefit_n the_o devout_a christian_n in_o s._n basils_n time_n receive_v by_o the_o intercession_n &_o prayer_n of_o martyr_n but_o also_o that_o this_o holy_a martyr_n of_o who_o he_o treat_v do_v sometime_o appear_v to_o man_n by_o vision_n in_o their_o sleep_n and_o that_o man_n use_v to_o invocate_v he_o in_o their_o necessity_n and_o thereby_o have_v his_o assistance_n which_o be_v evident_a even_o in_o the_o greek_a text_n where_o we_o read_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v whosoever_o he_o to_o wit_n the_o martyr_n have_v assist_v in_o his_o work_n be_v call_v upon_o by_o name_n which_o word_n i_o hope_v m._n andrew_n can_v deny_v to_o express_v a_o plain_a invocation_n of_o the_o martyr_n and_o the_o good_a effect_n i_o mean_v the_o help_n and_o assistance_n that_o follow_v thereof_o 22._o besyd_n that_o it_o be_v also_o to_o be_v consider_v here_o that_o s._n basil_n do_v speak_v not_o only_o of_o assistance_n give_v by_o the_o holy_a martyr_n in_o the_o place_n where_o his_o relic_n be_v keep_v as_o when_o he_o say_v quotquot_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la loco_fw-la constituti_fw-la etc._n etc._n as_o many_o of_o you_o as_o here_o in_o this_o place_n have_v have_v his_o help_n in_o your_o prayer_n but_o also_o of_o great_a favour_n do_v by_o he_o in_o other_o place_n as_o namely_o to_o wander_a man_n that_o have_v lose_v their_o way_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v here_o of_o m._n andrews_n in_o what_o manner_n these_o wander_a man_n or_o other_o that_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o monument_n and_o relic_n of_o the_o martyr_n pose_v obtain_v those_o favour_n mention_v by_o s._n basil_n yea_o and_o how_o they_o know_v that_o the_o martyr_n have_v favour_v and_o help_v they_o if_o they_o have_v not_o first_o invocate_v he_o and_o pray_v 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whomesoever_o the_o martyr_n have_v give_v assistance_n be_v call_v upon_o by_o name_n do_v particularize_v the_o favour_n that_o many_o have_v receive_v by_o the_o invocation_n of_o he_o say_v that_o some_o have_v be_v reduce_v to_o their_o right_a way_n other_o restore_v to_o their_o health_n other_o have_v recover_v their_o dead_a child_n and_o other_o again_o obtain_v prolongation_n of_o life_n all_o which_o no_o doubt_n be_v thing_n well_o know_v to_o s._n basils_n auditor_n to_o have_v happen_v in_o that_o manner_n to_o some_o or_o other_o among_o they_o for_o otherwise_o he_o will_v not_o have_v affirm_v the_o same_o unto_o they_o so_o confident_o as_o he_o do_v 24._o this_o then_o be_v so_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n basil_n himself_o that_o the_o custom_n and_o practice_v of_o faithful_a and_o catholic_a people_n in_o his_o time_n be_v to_o invocate_v holy_a martyr_n and_o saint_n by_o name_n and_o that_o god_n do_v approve_v the_o same_o by_o many_o miracle_n whereupon_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o recourse_n which_o s._n basil_n say_v be_v ordinary_a to_o the_o forty_o martyr_n include_v the_o invocation_n of_o they_o according_a to_o the_o common_a custom_n of_o that_o time_n defend_v in_o which_o respect_n i_o also_o infer_v that_o the_o translator_n expound_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o orare_fw-la do_v express_v s._n basils_n sense_n and_o meaning_n though_o not_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n and_o final_o i_o conclude_v that_o the_o place_n of_o s._n basil_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n prove_v direct_o not_o only_a the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n for_o we_o which_o m._n andrew_n grant_v but_o also_o our_o intercession_n and_o prayer_n to_o they_o notwithstanding_o the_o gloss_n of_o m._n andrew_n confound_v the_o martyr_n with_o their_o monument_n which_o how_o impertinent_a and_o frivolous_a it_o be_v you_o have_v sufficient_o see_v as_o well_o by_o a_o argument_n of_o his_o own_o as_o by_o the_o rest_n of_o this_o discourse_n verè_fw-la 25._o and_o now_o to_o say_v somewhat_o of_o his_o other_o answer_n which_o i_o mention_v in_o the_o beginning_n he_o say_v aliud_fw-la est_fw-la narrare_fw-la quid_fw-la fiat_fw-la aliud_fw-la statuere_fw-la quid_fw-la faciendum_fw-la sit_fw-la it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o declare_v what_o be_v do_v refute_v and_o another_o thing_n to_o declare_v what_o shall_v be_v do_v give_v to_o understand_v that_o albeit_o s._n basil_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n declare_v that_o man_n use_v in_o his_o time_n to_o pray_v to_o saint_n yet_o the_o same_o do_v not_o suffice_v to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a counsel_n except_o it_o be_v approve_v by_o some_o decree_n of_o s._n basil_n and_o the_o other_o father_n of_o that_o time_n to_o which_o purpose_n he_o do_v often_o inculcate_v the_o same_o demand_v still_o some_o statute_n or_o decree_n of_o the_o father_n as_o i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o show_v further_o hereafter_o 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trouble_n scandal_n and_o danger_n to_o the_o church_n as_o the_o 4._o first_o general_n counsel_n be_v call_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o heresye_n of_o the_o arian_n m●cedonians_n nestorian_n and_o eutychian_o which_o at_o those_o day_n do_v exceed_o molest_v and_o scandalize_v all_o the_o east_n church_n church_n whereas_o the_o invocation_n of_o saynts-being_a then_o public_o and_o general_o practise_v throughout_o the_o whole_a church_n need_v not_o to_o be_v confirm_v by_o decree_n of_o synod_n especial_o see_v it_o be_v not_o express_o deny_v by_o any_o at_o that_o tyme._n for_o albeit_o a_o abominable_a arian_n heretic_n call_v eustathius_n do_v then_o impugn_v the_o publyke_a honour_n do_v to_o saint_n by_o dedicate_a church_n to_o they_o and_o celebrate_v their_o feast_n for_o which_o cause_n a_o provincial_a council_n be_v hold_v at_o gangra_n 20._o where_o this_o his_o heresy_n together_o with_o diverse_a other_o of_o his_o be_v condemn_v and_o all_o those_o anathematise_v 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to_o feed_v his_o lamb_n and_o sheep_n he_o prefer_v he_o therein_o before_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n quia_fw-la solus_fw-la say_v s._n ambrose_n profitetur_fw-la ex_fw-la omnibus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la antefertur_fw-la the_o three_o be_v that_o whereas_o s._n ambrose_n observe_v three_o degree_n of_o christian_n to_o wit_n lamb_n little_a sheep_n and_o sheep_n all_o recommend_v to_o the_o pastoral_n care_n of_o s._n peter_n he_o give_v to_o understand_v that_o all_o sort_n of_o christian_n be_v commit_v to_o his_o charge_n and_o government_n and_o not_o the_o weak_a only_o but_o the_o most_o holy_a also_o learned_a and_o perfect_a yea_o even_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o and_o therefore_o he_o say_v ut_fw-la perfectiores_fw-la perfectior_fw-la gubernaret_fw-la 10._o this_o then_o be_v s._n ambrose_n his_o sense_n and_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o pastoral_a commission_n give_v to_o s._n peter_n it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o when_o he_o teach_v that_o all_o pastor_n 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skill_n to_o help_v the_o dice_n when_o he_o be_v put_v to_o his_o shift_n 11._o beside_o that_o his_o vanity_n and_o folly_n notable_o appear_v in_o that_o have_v gain_v nothing_o andrews_n but_o rather_o lose_v his_o cause_n by_o allege_v these_o two_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n and_o s._n ambrose_n yet_o he_o brag_v thereof_o afterward_o as_o if_o he_o have_v get_v a_o great_a victory_n say_v in_o the_o 214._o page_n that_o although_o 215._o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la be_v say_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n and_o to_o one_o to_o wit_n s._n peter_n yet_o it_o pass_v to_o all_o and_o that_o clariùs_fw-la id_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la ambrose_n &_o augustinus_n quam_fw-la ut_fw-la obstrepere_fw-la possint_fw-la novitij_fw-la nostri_fw-la ambrose_n and_o augustine_n do_v speak_v or_o affirm_v it_o more_o plain_o then_o that_o our_o novice_n can_v any_o way_n contradict_v it_o so_o he_o meaning_n by_o our_o novice_n the_o catholic_n as_o i_o take_v it_o though_o i_o know_v not_o why_o he_o so_o call_v they_o neither_o do_v i_o mean_v here_o to_o discuss_v it_o but_o will_v remit_v to_o the_o indifferent_a reader_n to_o judge_v what_o cause_n he_o have_v so_o to_o brag_v of_o these_o two_o father_n and_o what_o fidelity_n he_o have_v show_v in_o allege_v they_o dissemble_v the_o clear_a doctrine_n of_o the_o one_o and_o corrupt_v as_o well_o the_o text_n as_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o other_o and_o thus_o much_o for_o his_o first_o answer_n 12._o in_o his_o second_o he_o seek_v to_o retort_v the_o cardinal_n argument_n upon_o he_o cardinal_n and_o to_o prove_v the_o king_n supremacy_n by_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la which_o he_o say_v he_o know_v will_v touch_v the_o cardinal_n to_o the_o quick_a quod_fw-la scio_fw-la say_v he_o punget_fw-la cardinalem_fw-la let_v we_o hear_v then_o this_o sharp_a argument_n which_o i_o think_v will_v prove_v a_o very_a blunt_a one_o thus_o than_o he_o say_v negat_fw-la cardinalis_fw-la primatum_fw-la regis_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o cardinal_n deny_v the_o king_n supremacy_n and_o yet_o god_n say_v to_o a_o king_n tu_fw-la pasces_fw-la populum_fw-la meum_fw-la israel_n thou_o shall_v feed_v my_o people_n israel_n where_o no_o man_n can_v deny_v but_o that_o a_o king_n be_v make_v the_o pastor_n of_o all_o israel_n videamꝰ_n yea_o of_o the_o priest_n except_o he_o will_v deny_v they_o to_o be_v part_n of_o israel_n thus_o argue_v this_o learned_a and_o sharp_a doctor_n overthrow_v his_o own_o argument_n sufficient_o by_o his_o own_o conclusion_n grant_v in_o effect_n that_o if_o the_o priest_n be_v not_o a_o part_n of_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n the_o king_n be_v not_o their_o pastor_n 13._o to_o this_o purpose_n then_o it_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v what_o i_o have_v ample_o debate_v in_o the_o first_o chapter_n of_o my_o supplement_n sequ_o concern_v the_o exemption_n and_o sepation_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o levit_n from_o the_o temporal_a and_o politic_a state_n by_o the_o express_a word_n of_o almighty_a 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opposition_n be_v sufficient_a to_o overthrow_v it_o as_o have_v be_v 39_o declare_v 75._o and_o now_o i_o hope_v m._n andr●ws_n will_v not_o say_v that_o this_o be_v take_v out_o of_o some_o corner_n of_o a_o period_n or_o some_o piece_n of_o a_o title_n calcedo●●_n or_o fragment_n of_o a_o little_a clause_n see_v that_o this_o be_v as_o he_o say_v of_o his_o canon_n the_o very_a voice_n of_o the_o whole_a council_n be_v the_o substance_n of_o their_o public_a and_o general_a letter_n to_o pope_n leo_n himself_o which_o may_v also_o be_v confirm_v with_o their_o other_o public_a testimony_n of_o their_o belief_n concern_v his_o authority_n as_o that_o they_o acknowledge_v not_o only_o that_o he_o be_v successor_n to_o s._n peter_n say_v in_o their_o general_a acclamation_n to_o a_o epistle_n of_o he_o 2d_o petrus_n per_fw-la leonem_fw-la locutus_fw-la est●_n peter_n have_v speak_v by_o leo_n but_o also_o that_o he_o have_v peter_n authority_n yea_o and_o that_o s._n peter_n be_v 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