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A85071 The Faithfull narrative of the late testimony and demand made to Oliver Cromwel, and his powers, on the behalf of the Lords prisoners, in the name of the Lord Jehovah (Jesus Christ,) king of saints and nations. Published by faithful hands, members of churches (out of the original copies) to prevent mistakes, and misreports thereupon. To the faithful remnant of the Lamb, who are in this day of great rebuke and blasphemy, ingaged against the beast and his government, especially, to the new non-conforming churches, and saints in city and country, commonly called by the name of fifth monarchy men. Horton, Hur. 1655 (1655) Wing F278; Thomason E830_20; ESTC R207450 41,484 44

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sometimes they said he was too hold and plaid the Antick like Caple and at other times to contradict themselves sufficiently they said he was so pusillanimous that he stood and trembled before them and what not c. Now although it is notoriously known by us and others that they are all most grosse forged untruths and Court devices fetcht from the Father of lies who is now more busie than ever against the Lords faithfull ones to render them odious and obnoxious yet not with any desire to vindicate his or their persons for we commend them to the God of truth in whose eyes we and thousands we think we may say in England are perswaded they are very pretious their God who is the Saints refuge especially when they be in sufferings prisons persecutions or the like for them they must look to lie under the lash of all mens tongues almost and no wonder if Mr. Rogers do now more than ever by the great man himself as well as by his creatures since that day of his Appearance before him suffer so much But the great God that heareth prayers for him and his suffering brethren will doubtlesse deliver them avenge them of their Adversaries and judge righteously as Psal 37.6 to bring forth their righteousnesse as the light and their innocency as the noon day with a Daniels Answer cap. 6.2 My God bath sent his Angel and shut the Lyons mouths that they have not hurt me Forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me yet we say for the truths sake lest the testimony should suffer We shall and must Declare against that Generation of lyers and deceivers as Apostates use to be who go about and spread abroad false reports of the wayes and People of God by Letters messengers or Pamphlets purposely to poyson poore people with-all knowing the advantage they have by our forced silence seeing we are not suffered to print or any other wayes publish the truth for our selves If it were not lawfull to commit Fornication with the Moabites to draw them to the true Religion or if it be unlawfull to steal to relieve the poore it is much more unlawful by lies obloquies or blasphemies to win the poor people to their false way Wherefore in love to the Lord Jesus and this his blessed testimony now up we bring the truth of the whole Matter of the discourse to light whereat none we hope will be offended but those that love darknes rather than light because their deeds are evill John 3. For the honest Tradesman is content to have his Wares carried into the Sun from a dim shop-board 2. It is and hath been but now more than ever since the Court-glosses have been printed and published upon it the earnest desire expectation and indeed Call of many of the Saints to have as true a Narrative of the late Testimonies as we could publish but seeing as Jer. 9.3 saith None so valliant for the truth whileft the wicked Apostates proceed from evill to evill and knowing no other are so well accommodated to undertake it as some of us who were either ear witnesses or Writers hereof we reso've to publish it and therefore have compared the papers together that were taken in Characters and have given this accompt which we believe is as well taken as could be in such a crowd and among such interruptions confusions and disturbances we do not say to every individual word point or circumstance but in all the material passages to the best of our knowledge observation or remembrance 3. It is of some concernment to all the Remnant of the Womans seed in City and Country to know how far the Remnant in London with this Testimony of Jesus and Cause have gone and are ingaged and how high it is got up now and what kind of Esau-like Spirit it is that opposes it which you may see in the History following by the variety of passages providences and occurrences and who knows but it may a little warm them that are cold and enliven them that are dead and stir up them that are drowsie and comfort them that are drooping and unite them that are differing and incourage them that are fainting whether in Churches or out in the Countries to consider their work also at this day and what it is the Lord calls them to with their poor Brethren that now suffer in the three Nations for the Lord Jesus and his Cause against the Mighty left they also by their sleepinesse and silence incur the curse Judges 5.26 which God forbid for these and many other reasons are we stirred up to this Narrative seeing as Ahab did send for Michaiah 2 Chran 18. to see if he would say Go up and prosper as his own Prophets did say to him and as Ahab said v. 15. I adjure thee say nothing but the truth which when he said he would not suffer but said as v. 25. carry him back put this fellow in prison and feed him with the bread of affliction so also was Mr. Rogers remanded to his Bonds in Lambeth with more Severity than before too Neither are we without our Temptations in this little businesse for the Lamb some of which that have assaulted us arise from fear of giving offence but when we considered our Call that was soon quelled because offence is taken and not justly given by us herein seeing we are commanded by Gods word to remove the stumbling block of Lyes out of our Brothers way We had a holy Jealousie over our own spirit till we had tried them by Gods word and the Primitive practise of Saints Apostles Prophets and holy Men inspired by the Holy Ghost who ever spake and writ boldly in the name of the Lord for the Truth Jam. 5.10 and who are our example We consider how eagerly our enemies would gape for Advantage against us should they find the least mistake and possibly they will find many for as there is no pen so there is no man without Errataes yet for the Truths-sake so far as the Copies taken in short hand and our friends have agreed in one though we confesse it cannot be published so exactly as we could wish seeing we met with so much interruption as we said before the Lord knows we have been as faithful and impartial as we could befor our lives and we blesse our gracious Father we fear not what Flesh can do unto us as long as the Lord is with us and on our side and as long as we can claim protection from Jehovah our King by Covenant interest priviledge and propriety however some censure that sit at Stern as if we were ignorant of the Covenant of grace they shall find it other wise by the grace of our God ere it be long in the mean time an honest Jury man would rather have brought in an Ignoramus than an unjust and wicked verdict but we will wait with patience till the Lord appear to deliver us and till then we apply Psal 60.4 Thou hast
but reason and gratitude to his Great Master to possess all he can against the poor persecuted Saints in the behalf of him to whom he is so highly obliged above any one man almost in England for his large favors beneficial Patentees But ere long the Merchants who were made Rich by compliance with Babylon shall weep and wail and say Alas Alas Rev. 18.15 16. It is to be observed somewhat observable that very day the Sword was drawn twice at the Witnesses and Womans Seed The Providence is also admirable at that very juncture when Mr. R. and the Brethren were before him to maintain the Testimony and Demand made by the Twelve that on that very day many Assemblies of the Saints in several places being hard at the Throne the Lord should call out one unknown to any of us whole Meeting of the praying number being about 34 men to go to Whitehal and bear their Witness also The concurrence of the Testimony and the Demand is no less considerable seeing one had not the knowledge of the others Message that M.G. Harison Mr. Carew and the rest should second the aforesaid Twelve by a meer hand and call of God which they were obedient unto which is very exemplary and encouraging to all the Saints and Churches in England who are faithful to the Cause of Christ seeing so leading and calling a Providence The Demand and the Testimony is of a sudden gotten to a high pitch The Testimony up at a high pitch which doth mightily raise up the expectations of the believing remnant It is not meet for us to publish the matter of their Testimony being of the same nature with this Narrative neither can we do it so accurately and faithfully as we hope some others will The present work of the Day to gag the misreports thereupon for the quickning and strengthning them that are to follow us calling for the publication thereof without delay where-ever it lies And the rather for that Those choice servants of the Lord Jesus M.G. Harison Mr. Carew Mr. Courtney sent away with a Troop of horse to prison we know not whither the 22 day of the 12 month M.G. Harison Col. Rich Mr. Carew and Col. Courtney are so cruelly used for their Testimony and the Truths sake having no fact but their faith to charge them with and hurried away to Prison with a Troop of Horse and we know not whither So that the man must needs be wilfully blinde indeed now that will not see and say The Saints are under Persecution Therefore let not the good People of the Nation be so shamefully abused and deceived as they have been A word of Caution with lying Pamphlets and Informers whiles the Truth cannot must not date not be printed for fear of offending the men in Power and suffering a Prison or worse Of all beware of that Abominable Oracle the late Ironmonger but now Parish-Preacher * A man so base and scandalous as makes him horrible and his Name to stink among the Churches as very unfit matter to be a member of a Church but rather fit to be excommunicated exploded the society of all the Saints for bringing so foul reproach upon Religion which he hath formerly pretended to till he followed this Trade of Merchant for Lyes Walker his Weekly Proceedings whose forehead hath for many yeers been plated and brazened in the Trade and Art of Lying making it his Calling and his Living except the Tryers help him more easily to the Parish-Tythes This drives the poor man to so much pitiful soraping among the Court-Clerks for a few Lyes to sell every week at an easie rate that he and his family may live comfortably upon the lying slandering and traducing the Lords peculiar ones who are as the apple of his eyes How lamentably he hath abused Mr. Feak Mr. Rogers M.G. Overton and many others is well known and one day he must answer before the just Judge of all hearts with a wan countenance and woful conscience however he thinks to palliate it at present with a So 't was told me But as Solomon says Prov. 17. 4. A lyer giveth ear to a naughty tongue and the curse is threatned not onely to them that make but them that receive and report Lyes Rev. 21. Therefore Exod. 23.1 Put not thy hand to an unrighteous witness These things are published in meer love to the Truth and despised Saints of God for whose sake we are contented to become a reproach in the world and to suffer any thing by his Grace that man can inflict upon us so our dear Lord Jesus may but reign his Truth triumph and his Kingdom be exalted Amen Amen FINIS
reproach of pure Religion and undefiled This is the summe of our Message which we are sent to deliver to you in the name of the Lord and whether you will hear or whether you will forbear we leave it with you and to your conscience before God the Righteous Judge of heaven and earth After long waiting they obtained accesse and all Twelve being present together one as the mouth of them delivered the message but the word DEMAND would not go down wel but the Lord Cromwel told them that Mr. Feak and Mr. Rogers suffered not for conscience but as evil-doers and busie bodies in other mens matters One of the Twelve then said if so why were they not tryed by some known and just law and convicted for evil doers but to keep them there in so long and cruell Imprisonment without shewing cause was contrary to Gods law and the just laws of men besides they were sick and weakly men but he said he would put it to an Issue upon Friday or Tuesday as he said Mr. Rogers should be brought before him On the sixth day of this twelfth Moneth being the third day of the week the Brethren and sisters many of them of the Society met together and with much difficulty got into the prison to pray with Mr. Rogers which they continued till between three and four of the clock and then they were called away by the Gaoler to go to White-Hall according to his Lord Protectors Order so that in the name of another the Lord Protectour of heaven and earth the great Jehovah whose face they had so solemnly and so often sought for his presence with them Mr. Rogers set out of Lambeth along with Harding his Keeper Febr. 6. last 1654. and the rest from the Church-society twenty Brethren being the most going along with him much rejoycing as they went according to Acts 5.41 that they were so honoured to be called before men for the Name Faith and Cause of Jesus and when they came to Whitehall Bridge others of the dear Saints of several Churches waiting with tears and prayers and acclamations partly of joy and partly of grief to receive him and with an unamimous Suffrage and signal tokens of love to him and to this blessed Cause he suffers in they prayed the Lords presence to accompany him so we passed by and Mr. Rogers was by his Keeper carried into the Chamber hard by the Councel Chamber but the Keeper onely had admittance into the long Gallery to give notice that the Prisoner was there but by and by he came out again and told Mr. Rogers and his friends that they must all go down again and go through the Guard chamber but Mr. Rogers answered that was strange being come so near where the Great Man was they must now go down to go through the Guard Chamber and about again but the Keeper answered they must do it he had order for it which he did not in the least resisting but the main end was as they found afterwards to try whether they were sword-proof or no So by force Mr. Rogers and his friends were carried the other way back again through the Guard-Chamber many other people flocked about them the Keeeper going foremost Mr. Rogers and his wife next to him and his friends following close after him untill they came up to the Guard Chamber-doore immediately was the word of Command given to the Guard who assoon as they saw them and us coming in fell foully upon us with their swords and their Halberds saying The harsh usage of the poore persecuted fisth Monarchy-men Keep back Keep back to which Mr. Rogers answered with all his heart he would go back but his Keeper would not let him we also said if they would give us liberty we would go back as fast as we could but they wruld not hear us but fell upon us with a word and a blow slashing and striking in a most violent manner calling us Rogues damned Rogues and evacuating the most venomous words in their bellies c. but we told them not one of us had a weapon but the Bible in their hands some had and so we told them but some said the sword of the Spirit would be too hard for them one day which occasioned them to be the more violent who struck to choose at their Bibles hands and heads and so followed them sighting slashing and beating the poore naked Christians all the way into the Court again and there laying about them too and saying they cared not for their Bibles still inculcating insulting and calling us damned Rogues and cursed dogs and the like but Mr. Rogers and two or three more were shut in among their swords whiles the rest of the brethren were kept without in the Court and did with very much patience bear all their railings reproachings scoffs scorns flouts jeers and injuries offered them all the while by the Souldiers and others of the Court-creatures in the mean time Mr. Rogers with two or three more were brought into the Chamber of Henry the eighth where were many Gentlemen of the Court complexion some excusing the aforesaid violence and assault saying it was by accident to which he answered he conceived it not but that it was rather a plot and for ought he knew there might be a designe to murder some or other for the word was given to fall on and it is conceived by most that they did it on purpose to raise us to a mutiny that so they might have had at least in appearance or pretence some or a more Just Cause against Mr. Rogers and his friends in Church fellowship with him for the Guardians confesse they did but as they were commanded Whilest some were excusing this affront put upon Christ and his persecuted Churches others said it was good enough for us and it was pity we were not worse used than we were Mr. Rogers in the interim was talking with others and two of the Guard told him how sorry they were their fellows were so rough and drew their swords slashing so fiercely and what a mercy it was no more mischief was done seeing they had the command given them to do what they did and that it was the readinesse of some amongst them against us especially the outlandish There was a short discourse between Mr. Rogers and some others A.S. Why did you come up there Mr. R. We were sent for and commanded to come yea brought by force upon you Nota. and by your Masters Command who fell a slashing us with your swords so that it is probable it was a Design against us on purpose else why should peaceable men that had no kind of weapons in their hands or about them without sword or stuffe but onely the Bibles with us poore naked men and women be forced by Order and command to come before your Master and be thus abused affronted slashed and driven into dangers but the Lord is righteous who will judge W.F. But
be as evil doers O.P. I cannot tell you then how to help it B. H. For my part I must declare against you and will venture my life if I be called to it with these our brethren that suffer B. Cr. As for those Articles we have heard them read against our bro. Ro. out of his Sermons preached at Tho. Apost and from what he prayed at Th. Apost Set aside but what is put in by your Informers which we wil take our Oathes that heard them all preached were never spoken by him only I say that excepted we will live and die with him upon those Articles will own him with our lives Yea said Mr. Ro. and I believe an hundred will that heard and writ them O. P. Well saith he I 'll send for some of you ere long but I have lost this time and have publike business upon me at this time I had rather have given 500 l. I tell you there wants brotherly love and the several sorts of Forms would cut the throats one of another should not I keep the peace Ro. Those you call Fifth Monarchy-men are driven by your Sword to love one another O.P. Why I tell you there be Anabaptists pointing at Mr. Kifsin and they would cut the throats of them that are not under their Forms so would the Presbyterians cut the throats of them that are not of their Forms and so would you Fifth Monarchy-men It is sit to keep all these Forms out of the Power Ro. Who made you my Lord a Judge of our Principles You speak evil of you know not what For that Fifth Monarchy-principle as you call it is of such a latitude as takes in all Saints all such as are sanctified in Christ Jesus without respect of what Form or Judgement he is But Judiciuns fit secundum vim intellectualis luminis He was interrupted O.P. What do you tell us of your Latine Ro. Why my Lord you are Chancellor of Oxford and can you not bear that Language B. C. My Lord we have great comfort by the Ministery of our brother Rogers and great miss of him and therefore we have demanded his Liberty and desire to know whether he shall be at liberty or no. O.P. I will take my own time you shall not know what I will do B. H. Then let us have liberty to hear him preach S. Dendy It cannot be my Lord for I have many prisoners and 't is dangerous * And yet for all S. Dendy's baseness to the poor persecuted people of God And his readiness to prevent the great mans answer he can let in as many as will come to the drunken profane prisoners plotters so that friends are glad to use their names if they know any of them that come to see Mr. Rogers Ro. Pray my Lord consider that place in Isa 49.24 25 26. for the Lord will deliver the lawful Captive in that day which is coming you can but have my blood at last and you had like to have had it already in the Prison ere this two of my children have died there since my imprisonment and I have been at Deaths-door B. H. It is unreasonable our brother Ro. should be kept prisoner so in such a place and at such a charge as is for him above 200 l. per an and we know no cause for it but his conscience Then S. Dendy was spoken to to answer for himself S. D. Now my Lord I see one of my Accusers I never demanded a peny of Mr. Ro. nor of my Aunt his wife who is one of Sir Robert Payne's daughters O.P. I knew her father very well S. D. But they have my Lord three rooms and it cannot be allowed Ro. No more room then one prisoner had before being divided into three little rooms and but one chimney in them All. The Plotter that went out before I came into them had them All. And for the Fees though you in person demanded them not yet your man old Measey did for you several times viz. 4 l. 4 s. per week which he did before witness as I can prove under their hands and he said I should not go out till the Sergeant had it And what besides I was to pay you I was not to know till I went out Mrs. Ro. said to Sergeant Dendy It 's true you have had but 5 l. yet of it O.P. Why he is your Nephew who was accounted one that loved the people of God Ro. So were others as well as he till this trial Mr. Cre. My Lord will you not give us the liberty to hear him in the Prison then seeing you will not let us hear him abroad O.P. Is that the liberty you sought for says he in a scoff Mr. Cr. Yes Sir and that which we demand But then the Great man would be gone and as he was going out Mr. Ro. desired him to remember he must be judged and the day of the Lord was neer and that he would ere long and those about him finde them that now he and they counted false Prophets in Windsor and Lambeth true Prophets and what they have said they should finde come to pass ere many yeers yet for that the righteous Jehovah who sitteth on high heareth all our prayers sighs groans and tears But away he went and would not hear As soon as we came out of the room Sergeant Dendy in the Gallery threatned what he would do and how he would send them further off and order them ere long Mr. Rogers receiving the threatning without impatience or one word of reply unto him That very night a strict Order was sent after him to Lambeth-prison that no more then six may come to see Mr. R. at a time no such Order being made for any of the other Prisoners who have of lend company as many as they will at a time And since that the Gaoler hath been so strict especially upon the Lords days according to his Orders from Whitehal that he will not suffer one brother to come in to see him or to pray with him that is sent from the Churches of Christ upon those days if he knows him to keep a holy rest with Mr. R. In the mean time the Contumelies Contempt and opprobrious abuses the members of Mr. Peak's Mr. Rogers's Mr. Raworth's and of some other Churches met with below in the yard during the foresaid Discourse with O. Cromwel But to pass over that and leave it to the Judge of heaven and earth who we are sure will not overpass it During this Discourse between Mr. R. and the Great man above the Brethren that were below in the yard had their share of reproaches and abuses For the members of the Churches of Christ who could not have access with Mr. Ro. were kept below and encompassed about with divers of the deboist Souldiers who when they heard us declare against those barbarous actions which the Guard so cruelly acted with their Swords against our naked brethren and friends those