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A12482 An answer to Thomas Bels late challeng named by him The dovvnfal of popery wherin al his arguments are answered, his manifold vntruths, slaunders, ignorance, contradictions, and corruption of Scripture, & Fathers discouered and disproued: with one table of the articles and chapter, and an other of the more markable things conteyned in this booke. VVhat controuersies be here handled is declared in the next page. By S.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1605 (1605) STC 22809; ESTC S110779 275,199 548

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after_o he_o have_v propound_v the_o argument_n tell_v we_o though_o false_o that_o s._n austin_n prove_v involuntary_a motion_n to_o be_v sin_n indeed_o and_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o this_o article_n avouch_v a_o man_n to_o be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n in_o that_o 57_o pag._n 57_o which_o he_o do_v against_o he_o will_v and_o can_v not_o avoid_v yet_o at_o last_o resolve_v rather_o to_o deny_v the_o assumption_n 51._o pag._n 51._o wherefore_o i_o prove_v they_o both_o the_o proposition_n i_o prove_v out_o of_o that_o very_a place_n of_o s._n austin_n which_o bel_n cit_v to_o the_o 1._o s._n augustin_n to_o 1._o contrary_n sin_n say_v he_o 1._o retract_v c._n 13._o be_v so_o far_o forth_o voluntary_a evil_a as_o it_o be_v no_o way_n sin_n if_o it_o be_v not_o voluntary_a and_o this_o say_v he_o lib._n de_fw-la vera_fw-la relig_n c._n 14._o be_v so_o manifest_a as_o nether_a the_o fewne_n of_o learned_a no●_n the_o multitude_n of_o unlearned_a do_v deny_v it_o and_o will_v bel_n now_o 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god_n have_v command_v any_o impossible_a thing_n as_o no_o doubt_n he_o have_v if_o we_o sin_n in_o that_o which_o we_o can_v not_o avoid_v see_v he_o dialog_n count_n pelag._n s._n chrisostom_n 7._o s._n chrysost_o tom_fw-mi 4._o s._n prosper_n s._n augustin_n tom_fw-mi 10._o tom._n 7._o hom_n 13_o ad_fw-la rom._n prosper_n de_fw-fr vita_fw-la contempl_a c._n 4._o s._n austin_n serm_n 61._o the_o temp_n de_fw-fr nat_n &_o great_a c._n 69._o in_o psal_n 56._o and_o other_o by_o reason_n also_o it_o be_v manifest_a for_o if_o involuntary_a act_n do_v against_o our_o will_n be_v true_a sin_n much_o more_o the_o act_n of_o fool_n and_o mad_a man_n yea_o of_o beast_n which_o be_v not_o do_v against_o will_n but_o only_o without_o will_n and_o they_o true_a malefactor_n and_o sinner_n before_o
god_n and_o man_n which_o i_o think_v none_o but_o a_o mad_a man_n will_v grant_v and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o bel_n will_v think_v himself_o unjust_o execute_v if_o he_o be_v put_v to_o death_n for_o a_o thing_n do_v against_o his_o will_n and_o which_o he_o labour_v all_o he_o can_v to_o hinder_v 10._o the_o assumption_n i_o prove_v because_o if_o involuntary_a if_o concupiscence_n be_v not_o some_o time_n involuntary_o nothing_o be_v involuntary_a that_o be_v not_o involuntary_a whereof_o we_o give_v no_o occasion_n nor_o consent_n unto_o yea_o detest_v and_o hinder_v all_o we_o can_v as_o it_o happen_v oftentimes_o in_o the_o motion_n of_o concupiscence_n i_o can_v not_o see_v what_o can_v be_v involuntary_a unto_o us._n and_o if_o they_o be_v papist_n as_o bel_n term_v they_o pag._n 51._o who_o call_v such_o act_n of_o concupiscence_n judgement_n s._n paul_n s_o augustin_n serm_n 43._o de_fw-fr verb._n dom._n see_v serm_n 3._o 5._o and_o 12._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n bel_n a_o papist_n by_o his_o own_o judgement_n involuntary_a a_o papist_n be_v s._n paul_n say_v rom._n 7._o v._n 19_o i_o do_v the_o evil_a which_o i_o will_v not_o and_o s._n austin_n when_o he_o say_v i_o will_v not_o that_o concupiscence_n covet_v we_o will_v there_o be_v no_o concupiscence_n but_o will_v we_o will_v we_o we_o have_v they_o yea_o bel_n himself_o no_o les_fw-fr than_o they_o thrice_o in_o this_o article_n pag._n 50._o 51._o and_o 57_o in_o plain_a term_n call_v these_o motion_n involuntary_a 11._o but_o to_o this_o argument_n he_o answer_v 51._o bel_n pag._n 51._o that_o they_o be_v voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n and_o thereto_o cit_v s._n austin_n affirm_v original_a sin_n of_o 1._o s._n austin_n 1_o retract_v c._n 13._o tom_n 1._o infant_n to_o be_v voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n and_o call_v this_o the_o gordian_a knot_n which_o papist_n can_v never_o untie_v and_o so_o clear_a and_o evident_a a_o solution_n of_o the_o argument_n as_o every_o child_n may_v behold_v the_o weakness_n falsehood_n and_o absurdity_n thereof_o but_o bel_n be_v ignorant_a origin_n what_o be_v to_o be_v voluntary_a in_o the_o origin_n what_o it_o be_v to_o be_v voluntary_a in_o the_o origin_n for_o this_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v will_v of_o he_o from_o who_o we_o take_v our_o origin_n and_o who_o will_n be_v account_v we_o as_o original_a sin_n be_v voluntary_a to_o infant_n in_o their_o origin_n because_o it_o be_v will_v of_o adam_n in_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o forbid_a apple_n and_o his_o will_n be_v in_o that_o fact_n account_v they_o and_o this_o mean_v s._n austin_n loc_fw-la cit_fw-la but_o as_o for_o actual_a motion_n 1._o 1._o retract_v c._n 13._o to_o 1._o of_o concupiscence_n he_o never_o say_v they_o be_v voluntaty_n to_o we_o in_o their_o origin_n nether_a can_v gregory_n why_o involuntary_a motion_n be_v not_o voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n s._n gregory_n they_o both_o because_o adam_n have_v no_o will_n of_o commit_v these_o act_n as_o he_o have_v of_o lose_v original_a justice_n in_o eat_v the_o apple_n as_o also_o because_o his_o will_n be_v not_o account_v we_o in_o any_o other_o act_n then_o in_o his_o keep_n or_o first_o lose_v of_o original_a justice_n beside_o as_o s._n gregory_n write_v l._n 15._o moral_n c._n 22._o original_a sin_n be_v blot_v out_o child_n be_v not_o hold_v by_o the_o iniquity_n of_o parent_n and_o therefore_o adam_n will_n can_v not_o make_v those_o act_n in_o the_o regenerate_a to_o be_v sin_n which_o of_o their_o nature_n be_v none_o 12._o and_o though_o the_o foresaid_a motion_n be_v sin_n inuoluntary_a motion_n though_o they_o be_v voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n can_v be_v no_o sin_n voluntary_a in_o their_o origin_n yet_o can_v they_o be_v nether_a original_a nor_o actual_a sin_n not_o original_a because_o they_o be_v act_n and_o not_o common_a alike_o to_o all_o nor_o actual_a because_o they_o have_v no_o actual_a will_n of_o the_o doer_n and_o as_o voluntary_a in_o general_n be_v 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get_v by_o repentance_n wherefore_o well_o write_v s._n gregory_n to_o s._n austin_n our_o apostle_n 10._o s._n gregory_n epist_n ad_fw-la augustin_n cant._n c._n 10._o oftentimes_o it_o be_v do_v without_o fault_n which_o come_v of_o fault_n and_o much_o les_fw-fr shall_v involuntary_a motion_n be_v sin_n in_o we_o though_o they_o be_v original_o voluntary_a unto_o we_o only_o by_o the_o will_n of_o a_o other_o thus_o be_v this_o gordian_a knot_n two_o way_n untie_v but_o himself_o have_v with_o his_o tongue_n tie_v so_o fast_o a_o knot_n for_o proof_n himself_o bel_n disprove_v himself_o of_o my_o conclusion_n as_o with_o his_o tooth_n he_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o loose_v for_o pag._n 48._o he_o affirm_v s._n paul_n to_o have_v be_v most_o free_a and_o innocent_a contradict_v 12._o contradict_v touch_v actual_a sin_n and_o he_o prove_v it_o because_o he_o fight_v mighty_o against_o his_o rage_a concupiscence_n and_o do_v in_o no_o wise_a yield_v thereunto_o which_o be_v both_o to_o confess_v that_o s_n paul_n have_v involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o himself_o acknowledge_v rom._n 7._o v._n 15_o 17._o 19_o 23._o &_o yet_o to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o because_o they_o be_v involuntary_a which_o be_v both_o my_o conclusion_n and_o reason_n 13._o as_o for_o s._n austin_n he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o 15._o s._n augustin_n 10._o 2._o see_v s._n austin_n lib._n 2_o cont_n jul._n c._n 3._o &_o 10._o l._n 5._o c._n 3._o 15._o think_v that_o we_o sin_n by_o involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n as_o he_o say_v epist_n 200._o ad_fw-la asellicum_n that_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o they_o we_o need_v not_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n which_o he_o repeat_v again_o l._n the_o spit_n &_o light_v c._n ult._n add_v 3._o tom._n 3._o that_o if_o we_o consent_v not_o to_o these_o act_n we_o shall_v disprove_v that_o say_n of_o s._n john_n if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o deceive_v ourselves_o and_o prove_v it_o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr civet_n c._n 15._o thus_o if_o concupiscential_a disobedience_n 5._o tom._n 5._o be_v without_o fault_n in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o sleep_v how_o much_o more_o in_o the_o body_n of_o one_o not_o consent_v and_o l._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concupis_fw-la c._n 23._o explicate_v how_o it_o be_v call_v sin_n uz_o as_o writing_n be_v call_v a_o hand_n or_o cold_a sluggish_a which_o be_v figurative_o &_o improper_o nay_o he_o not_o only_o excuse_v we_o from_o sin_n when_o we_o consent_v not_o unto_o involuntary_a motion_n of_o the_o flesh_n but_o avouch_v that_o then_o we_o do_v much_o good_a a_o great_a 10._o merit_n in_o resist_a concupiscence_n according_a to_o s_o austin_n tom._n 7._o tom._n 10._o matter_n for_o which_o we_o shall_v be_v crown_v lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr nupt_a &_o concupisc_fw-la c._n 29._o he_o do_v much_o good_a who_o do_v that_o which_o be_v write_v follow_v not_o thy_o lust_n and_o serm_n 5._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n c._n 6._o it_o be_v a_o great_a 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also_o for_o the_o evil_a we_o suffer_v and_o hom_n 1._o de_fw-fr resur_n tom_fw-mi 3_o what_o care_n say_v he_o will_v he_o have_v of_o virtue_n who_o expect_v no_o retribution_n of_o labour_n and_o hom_n 15._o in_o math._n that_o we_o have_v god_n our_o debtor_n when_o we_o do_v any_o good_a and_o may_v exact_v usury_n of_o he_o and_o the_o like_a speech_n he_o have_v hom_n 3._o and_o 36._o in_o math._n and_o 42._o in_o gen._n and_o in_o philog_n and_o other_o where_o which_o alone_o may_v assure_v we_o that_o he_o mean_v not_o to_o deny_v eternal_a life_n to_o be_v a_o true_a reward_n of_o our_o supernatural_a labour_n but_o either_o by_o labour_n he_o understand_v natural_a labour_n do_v as_o he_o speak_v there_o by_o our_o own_o strength_n of_o which_o labour_v doubtless_o eternal_a life_n be_v be_v no_o reward_n debt_n or_o retribution_n or_o rather_o by_o eternal_a life_n he_o there_o understand_v not_o heavenly_a glory_n but_o only_a justification_n which_o he_o may_v call_v 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nor_o against_o scripture_n and_o truth_n 7._o three_o he_o cit_v origen_n say_v rom._n bel_n pag._n 63._o origen_n in_o c._n 6._o ad_fw-la rom._n deum_fw-la vero_fw-la non_fw-la erat_fw-la dignum_fw-la militibus_fw-la suis_fw-la stipendium_fw-la quasi_fw-la debitum_fw-la aliquod_fw-la dare_v sed_fw-la donum_fw-la &_o gratiam_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la vita_fw-la aeterna_fw-la which_o bel_n thus_o english_v but_o it_o be_v not_o a_o thing_n worthy_a beseem_v god_n to_o give_v stipend_n to_o his_o soldier_n as_o a_o due_a debt_n or_o wage_v but_o to_o bestow_v on_o they_o a_o gift_n or_o free_a grace_n which_o be_v eternal_a life_n here_o bel_n translate_v donum_fw-la a_o gift_n and_o 5._o false_a translat_n a._n 5._o gratiam_fw-la free_a grace_n albeit_o before_o he_o prefer_v the_o word_n donatio_fw-la which_o be_v all_o one_o in_o this_o matter_n with_o donum_fw-la before_o gratia_fw-la because_o it_o better_o insinuate_v the_o freeness_n of_o the_o gift_n but_o if_o you_o ask_v he_o wherefore_o he_o translate_v gratia_fw-la free_a grace_n he_o can_v give_v no_o better_a reason_n than_o his_o grandsire_n luther_n do_v when_o he_o translate_v fides_fw-la iustificat_fw-la faith_n alone_o iustify_v uz_o sic_fw-la volo_fw-la sic_fw-la iubeo_fw-la stat_fw-la pro_fw-la ratione_fw-la ●530_n surius_n ann._n ●530_n voluntas_fw-la as_o for_o origen_n he_o mean_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o it_o beseem_v not_o god_n to_o give_v a_o stipend_n so_o due_a to_o good_a work_n as_o say_v he_o the_o king_n of_o sin_n pay_v stipend_n due_a to_o they_o that_o obey_v his_o tyranny_n which_o be_v most_o true_a for_o although_o 6._o s._n austin_n ep_v 105._o to_o 2._o s._n anselm_n rom._n 6._o the_o just_a by_o good_a work_n deserve_v life_n yet_o not_o so_o just_o as_o the_o wicked_a by_o sin_n deserve_v death_n nether_a be_v life_n so_o due_a to_o they_o as_o death_n to_o these_o as_o be_v evident_a by_o what_o have_v be_v say_v before_o and_o willet_n in_o affirm_v we_o 587._o willet_n controu_fw-fr 17._o q._n 3._o art_n 3._o p._n 587._o to_o teach_v the_o contrary_n show_v a_o trick_n of_o his_o ministry_n 8._o s._n ambrose_n he_o also_o allege_v but_o 6._o pag._n 63._o s._n ambros_n rom._n 6._o his_o word_n be_v rather_o against_o he_o for_o he_o say_v as_o the_o follower_n of_o sin_n get_v death_n so_o the_o follower_n of_o god_n grace_n that_o be_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n which_o forgive_v sin_n shall_v have_v eternal_a life_n what_o be_v here_o for_o bel_n or_o rather_o not_o against_o he_o but_o most_o clear_o do_v s._n ambrose_n ambros_n s._n ambros_n confound_v bel_n immediate_o before_o the_o word_n cite_v who_o from_o hence_o forth_o say_v he_o abstain_v from_o sin_n receive_v a_o stipend_n eternal_a life_n and_o serm_n 7._o in_o psal_n 118._o affirm_v that_o david_n can_v say_v to_o god_n i_o be_o a_o soldier_n i_o exact_v a_o stipend_n of_o my_o captain_n 9_o he_o cit_v also_o theophilact_n because_o 6._o theophilact_n rom._n 6._o he_o say_v s._n paul_n call_v erernal_a life_n grace_n and_o not_o a_o reward_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v for_o you_o receive_v not_o rewards_o of_o labour_n but_o all_o these_o thing_n be_v do_v by_o grace_n in_o christ_n jesus_n who_o work_v and_o do_v they_o but_o this_o be_v nothing_o against_o we_o who_o willing_o acknowledge_v eternal_a life_n to_o be_v grace_n and_o not_o to_o proceed_v of_o our_o own_o labour_n do_v by_o ourselves_o but_o do_v and_o wrought_v also_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n after_o this_o he_o cit_v anselme_n and_o photius_n but_o allege_v not_o their_o word_n yet_o confess_v that_o in_o effect_n they_o be_v the_o same_o with_o other_o and_o therefore_o see_v s._n anselme_n upon_o this_o place_n anselme_n s._n anselme_n of_o s._n paul_n teach_v plain_o that_o eternal_a life_n be_v a_o stipend_n of_o justice_n and_o that_o s._n paul_n may_v have_v call_v it_o so_o we_o may_v be_v assure_v that_o in_o effect_n other_o father_n do_v call_v it_o so_o as_o he_o after_o s._n ambros_n and_o s._n austin_n do_v in_o express_a 60_o s._n austin_n ep_v 105._o s._n ambros_n rom._n 6._o bel_n pag._n 64._o untruth_n 60_o word_n wherefore_o vain_o do_v bel_n boast_v that_o it_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o foresay_a testimony_n of_o holy_a father_n that_o eternal_a life_n be_v the_o free_a gift_n of_o god_n for_o rather_o the_o quite_o contrary_a be_v manifest_a because_o none_o of_o they_o say_v it_o be_v a_o free_a gift_n or_o any_o thing_n whereof_o it_o may_v be_v just_o infer_v and_o some_o of_o they_o express_o say_v it_o be_v a_o rom._n ut_fw-la retributionem_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la gratiam_fw-la sed_fw-la plane_n debitum_fw-la occupas_fw-la s._n greg._n nazianz_n orat_fw-la ●_o in_o sanctum_fw-la lavacrum_fw-la burgen_n addit_fw-la 2._o in_o c._n 6._o rom._n stipend_n and_o such_o a_o one_o as_o a_o soldier_n may_v exact_v of_o his_o captain_n such_o as_o death_n be_v to_o sin_n which_o be_v evident_o no_o free_a gift_n wherefore_o to_o help_v 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affliction_n of_o this_o 6._o false_a translat_n 6._o present_a time_n be_v not_o worthy_a of_o the_o future_a glory_n answer_v here_o be_v evil_a translation_n for_o where_o the_o apostle_n say_v affliction_n be_v non_fw-fr condignae_fw-la ad_fw-la futuram_fw-la gloriam_fw-la ou●_n axia_fw-la pros_fw-la ten_o mellousan_n doxan_n be_v not_o condign_a to_o the_o future_a glory_n bel_n translate_v be_v not_o worthy_a of_o the_o future_a glory_n and_o the_o apostle_n meaning_n be_v not_o to_o tell_v there_o whether_o sufferance_n of_o this_o life_n be_v condign_o meritorious_a of_o future_a glory_n or_o no_o but_o intend_v to_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o comparable_a to_o future_a glory_n either_o in_o greatness_n or_o in_o continuance_n which_o hinder_v not_o their_o condign_a merit_n as_o be_v evident_a in_o christ_n sufferance_n for_o have_v
17._o v._o 17._o immediate_o before_o say_v that_o we_o shall_v be_v coheir_n with_o christ_n if_o we_o suffer_v with_o he_o lest_o we_o shall_v be_v unwilling_a to_o attain_v to_o such_o glory_n by_o sufferance_n he_o add_v in_o the_o verse_n cite_v that_o sufferance_n be_v not_o condign_a that_o be_v not_o comparable_a in_o greatness_n or_o continuance_n to_o future_a glory_n which_o mean_v of_o his_o he_o utter_v in_o plain_a term_n 2._o corinth_n 4._o v._n 17._o say_v our_o tribulation_n which_o present_o paul_n s._n paul_n be_v momentary_a and_o light_n work_v above_o measure_n exceed_o a_o eternal_a weight_n of_o glory_n in_o us._n where_o he_o say_v our_o tribulation_n be_v momentary_a and_o light_n and_o the_o glory_n be_v eternal_a and_o weighty_a which_o he_o mean_v when_o he_o say_v here_o they_o be_v not_o condign_a to_o future_a glory_n and_o hereby_o be_v explicate_v the_o word_n both_o of_o theodoret_n and_o s._n anselme_n upon_o this_o place_n for_o theodoret_n say_v 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like_a word_n of_o s._n ambrose_n which_o finem_fw-la s._n ambros_n epist_n 84._o to_o 4._o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la hereafter_o he_o cit_v that_o by_o reason_n of_o the_o rebellion_n of_o the_o flesh_n that_o be_v understand_v of_o every_o one_o which_o s._n john_n say_v if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o seduce_v ourselves_o 3._o but_o suppose_v that_o s._n austin_n have_v say_v all_o matter_n bel_n forget_v his_o matter_n that_o bel_n infer_v though_o it_o will_v prove_v concupiscence_n to_o be_v formal_a sin_n yet_o will_v it_o not_o prove_v that_o our_o work_n be_v no_o condign_a merit_n which_o be_v the_o question_n now_o in_o hand_n for_o though_o concupiscence_n be_v as_o bel_n rhink_v venial_a sin_n which_o he_o be_v 9_o call_v sin_n not_o regnant_a yet_o may_v other_o supernatural_a work_n of_o
teach_v 8._o out_o of_o s_n bernard_n he_o allege_v these_o bernard_n bel_n pag._n 71._o &_o bernard_n word_n serm_v 1._o de_fw-la annunt_fw-la the_o suffering_n of_o this_o time_n be_v not_o condign_a to_o future_a glory_n no_o not_o if_o one_o suffer_v all_o for_o the_o merit_n of_o man_n be_v not_o such_o as_o eternal_a life_n be_v due_a to_o they_o ex_fw-la jure_fw-la of_o justice_n that_o god_n shall_v do_v any_o injury_n if_o he_o give_v it_o not_o hereupon_o bel_n infer_v diverse_a thing_n but_o all_o depend_v of_o his_o false_a understanding_n the_o word_n justice_n and_o injury_n for_o s._n bernard_n meaning_n be_v only_o to_o deny_v that_o all_o the_o suffering_n of_o this_o life_n can_v be_v absolute_a and_o perfect_a equal_a merit_n of_o glory_n depend_v of_o no_o grace_n or_o promise_v of_o god_n to_o reward_v they_o but_o that_o god_n of_o his_o mere_a justice_n without_o all_o respect_n of_o mercy_n shall_v be_v bind_v to_o repay_v they_o with_o eternal_a life_n and_o otherwise_o shall_v do_v absolute_a injury_n and_o mean_v not_o to_o deny_v that_o suppose_n god_n gracious_a promise_n of_o reward_v work_n and_o assistance_n in_o do_v they_o heaven_n be_v due_a to_o they_o of_o some_o justice_n and_o that_o he_o shall_v do_v some_o injury_n if_o he_o do_v not_o give_v heaven_n for_o as_o s._n austin_n say_v 7._o s._n augustin_n to_o 7._o l._n 4._o con_v julian._n c._n 3._o god_n himself_o shall_v be_v unjust_a if_o the_o true_a just_a be_v not_o admit_v to_o his_o kingdom_n and_o the_o same_o insinuate_v s._n paul_n when_o 10._o s._n paul_n heb._n ●_o v._o 10._o write_v to_o the_o hebrew_n he_o say_v god_n be_v not_o unjust_a to_o forget_v their_o work_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v do_v some_o injustice_n if_o he_o shall_v forget_v it_o 9_o next_o he_o cit_v his_o word_n serm_v 67._o in_o 71._o pag._n 71._o canti_fw-la it_o want_v to_o grace_v whatsoever_o thou_o ascribe_v to_o merit_n i_o will_v no_o merit_n which_o exclude_v grace_n i_o abhor_v 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merit_n suffice_v not_o uz_o without_o god_n mercy_n of_o pardon_v our_o sin_n and_o gracious_a promise_n of_o reward_v they_o which_o be_v only_o to_o deny_v absolute_a &_o perfect_a equal_a merit_n which_o we_o also_o with_o he_o deny_v but_o mark_v good_a reader_n how_o bel_n who_o before_o admit_v our_o merit_n in_o a_o 61._o pag._n 61._o godly_a sense_n now_o plain_o avouch_v they_o to_o be_v no_o merit_n which_o plain_o discry_v his_o godly_a sense_n of_o expound_v merit_n by_o impetration_n to_o be_v a_o ungodly_a shift_n of_o his_o for_n to_o delude_v the_o authority_n of_o father_n express_o avouch_v merit_n and_o thus_o much_o of_o his_o proof_n out_o of_o father_n now_o let_v we_o view_v his_o proof_n out_o of_o popish_a writer_n chap._n vi_o bell_n argument_n out_o of_o late_a catholic_a writer_n against_o condign_a merit_n answer_v the_o first_o papist_n which_o bell_n cit_v be_v s._n thomas_n pag._n 72._o s._n thomas_n thomas_n 1._o 2._o 4._o 114._o at_o 1._o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o between_o god_n and_o man_n there_o be_v most_o great_a inequality_n for_o there_o be_v infinite_a distance_n between_o they_o all_o the_o good_a which_o be_v man_n be_v from_o god_n wherefore_o man_v justice_n receive_v of_o god_n can_v not_o be_v according_a to_o absolute_a equality_n but_o according_a to_o a_o certain_a proportion_n to_o wit_n in_o as_o much_o as_o either_o work_v according_a to_o his_o manner_n but_o the_o manner_n and_o measure_n of_o human_a power_n in_o man_n be_v from_o god_n and_o therefore_o man_n merit_n before_o god_n can_v not_o be_v but_o according_a to_o the_o supposal_n of_o god_n ordinance_n to_o wit_n so_o that_o man_n obtain_v of_o god_n by_o his_o work_n that_o as_o a_o reward_n to_o which_o god_n have_v design_v he_o power_n to_o work_v hence_o bel_n infer_v 73._o pag._n 73._o diverse_a thing_n 1._o that_o s._n thomas_n tell_v we_o that_o where_o there_o be_v not_o perfect_a equality_n there_o be_v no_o 67_o untruth_n 67_o merit_n 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