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it_o be_v a_o profane_a book_n as_o i_o have_v show_v by_o many_o argument_n never_o receive_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n fâ—â—_n 400._o year_n after_o christ._n where_o i_o say_v we_o submit_v ourselves_o to_o all_o churcheâ—_n but_o so_o that_o they_o allow_v no_o consent_n or_o submission_n but_o 〈◊〉_d the_o truth_n which_o must_v be_v try_v only_o by_o god_n wordâ—_n bristol_n say_v with_o that_o but_o so_o we_o will_v consent_v the_o trueâ—â—_n to_o jacke_n straw_n very_o to_o consent_v unto_o jacke_n straâ—â—_n in_o truth_n i_o take_v it_o to_o be_v none_o absurdity_n but_o i_o speak_v not_o only_o of_o consent_n but_o also_o of_o submission_n which_o we_o be_v not_o ready_a to_o yield_v to_o any_o but_o such_o who_o authority_n 〈◊〉_d reverence_n as_o for_o the_o 4._o
into_o the_o wilderness_n at_o the_o come_n of_o antichrist_n be_v to_o become_v invisible_a to_o the_o world_n although_o this_o article_n be_v not_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n in_o controversy_n between_o we_o neither_o yet_o so_o affirm_v of_o i_o as_o though_o to_o be_v in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v invisible_a to_o the_o world_n yet_o i_o will_v prove_v so_o much_o as_o i_o affirm_v that_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v invisible_a to_o the_o world_n the_o church_n be_v where_o the_o multitude_n of_o wicked_a man_n be_v not_o be_v to_o they_o invisible_a but_o the_o multitude_n of_o wicked_a man_n be_v not_o in_o the_o wilderness_n therefore_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v to_o the_o multitude_n of_o wicked_a man_n which_o be_v the_o world_n invisible_a three_o he_o require_v i_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o begin_n of_o that_o come_n and_o fly_v shall_v be_v so_o soon_o after_o christ_n passion_n before_o i_o 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&c._n to_o their_o own_o damnation_n which_o be_v all_o 〈◊〉_d as_o if_o bristol_n can_v make_v we_o believe_v that_o the_o apâ—_n stle_v take_v upon_o they_o without_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n in_o other_o place_n to_o judge_v 〈◊〉_d sense_n of_o any_o scripture_n as_o the_o popish_a church_n do_v 〈◊〉_d that_o saint_n peter_n be_v a_o apostle_n endue_v with_o so_o mâ—_n ny_fw-fr grace_n be_v unlearned_a because_o he_o have_v be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d sherman_n again_o where_o i_o say_v the_o popish_a church_n ma_fw-fr 〈…〉_o fest_o reject_v the_o whole_a authority_n of_o all_o the_o canon_n 〈…〉_o call_v scripture_n when_o she_o affirm_v that_o no_o book_n 〈◊〉_d holy_a scripture_n be_v canonical_a but_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o she_o 〈…〉_o will_v allow_v it_o this_o say_v bristol_n be_v as_o though_o 〈◊〉_d apostle_n and_o the_o church_n after_o they_o manifest_o reject_v the_o whole_a &c_n &c_n because_o they_o make_v a_o canon_n or_o canon_n whereof_o the_o 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&c_n whereby_o it_o follow_v that_o by_o the_o like_a power_n she_o may_v now_o reject_v the_o gospel_n of_o mathewe_n and_o john_n and_o receive_v the_o gospel_n of_o bartholomew_n and_o thomas_n where_o i_o say_v the_o popish_a bishop_n dare_v not_o abide_v the_o conference_n at_o westminster_n first_o he_o quarel_v 〈…〉_o my_o phrase_n because_o i_o say_v it_o be_v before_o the_o whole_a 〈…〉_o rlde_fw-mi as_o one_o that_o care_v not_o what_o i_o say_v in_o deed_n i_o 〈…〉_o de_fw-fr account_n of_o the_o judgement_n of_o reasonable_a rea_fw-la 〈…〉_o s_o which_o will_v not_o take_v my_o word_n as_o though_o i_o 〈…〉_o nt_v that_o all_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v gather_v into_o 〈…〉_o estminster_n church_n but_o that_o the_o conference_n and_o this_fw-mi 〈…〉_o tation_n be_v so_o open_a and_o so_o notorious_a that_o all_o the_o world_n 〈…〉_o ght_v have_v knowledge_n of_o it_o second_o he_o call_v it_o a_o mock_n conference_n in_o come_v 〈…〉_o rison_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n yet_o be_v there_o no_o or_o 〈…〉_o r_o take_v but_o such_o as_o be_v well_o like_v of_o by_o the_o papist_n 〈…〉_o m_o self_n until_o they_o see_v their_o cause_n can_v carry_v no_o 〈…〉_o dite_fw-fr he_o charge_v we_o for_o refuse_v to_o come_v to_o the_o council_n 〈◊〉_d trent_n be_v so_o solemn_o &_o honourable_o invite_v with_o 〈…〉_o h_o safeconducte_n etc._n etc._n to_o your_o safeconducte_n i_o aun_n 〈…〉_o ere_o brief_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n have_v discredit_v 〈…〉_o m_o for_o ever_o on_o your_o behalf_n and_o to_o your_o disputati_fw-la 〈…〉_o there_o offer_v i_o say_v it_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n in_o such_o a_o 〈…〉_o cke_z council_n where_o the_o pope_n which_o be_v the_o princi_fw-la 〈…〉_o will_v party_n that_o be_v accuse_v of_o heresy_n shall_v be_v the_o only_a 〈…〉_o dge_v and_o disposer_n of_o all_o thing_n pass_v therein_o against_o 〈◊〉_d good_a example_n law_n equity_n and_o reason_n where_o you_o make_v allen_n such_o a_o great_a exhibitioner_n 〈◊〉_d our_o whole_a 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be_v carry_v up_o sir_n it_o signify_v to_o be_v carry_v away_o and_o see_v the_o scotfree_a man_n look_v up_o see_v lazarus_n afar_o of_o it_o follow_v that_o lazarus_n be_v carry_v up_o and_o not_o down_o but_o you_o reply_v it_o follow_v not_o that_o he_o be_v carry_v into_o heaven_n then_o you_o may_v say_v he_o be_v carry_v up_o to_o hell_n but_o the_o place_n you_o say_v may_v be_v nigh_o together_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o distance_n of_o heaven_n although_o one_o be_v upwarde_o and_o also_o far_o off_o both_o in_o state_n and_o situation_n purgatory_n peradventure_o betwixt_o they_o this_o be_v a_o goodly_a faith_n that_o stand_v upon_o peradventure_o and_o this_o may_v be_v etc._n etc._n the_o scripture_n say_v there_o be_v a_o great_a chaos_n which_o be_v a_o infinite_a distance_n between_o they_o which_o can_v agree_v to_o limbus_n which_o must_v be_v hard_o adjoin_v to_o hell_n or_o else_o it_o be_v not_o limbus_n but_o if_o they_o be_v no_o way_n nigh_o together_o say_v 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work_v that_o which_o the_o word_n do_v signify_v and_o therefore_o bring_v i_o no_o more_o say_v he_o those_o paltry_a example_n i_o be_o a_o 〈…〉_o over_o i_o be_o a_o vine_n the_o rock_n be_v christ_n etc._n etc._n for_o none_o of_o these_o be_v speak_v by_o the_o way_n of_o blessing_n hear_v you_o not_o how_o this_o turkish_a dog_n blaspheme_v the_o word_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o call_v they_o paltry_a example_n but_o let_v that_o go_v when_o blessing_n &_o word_n be_v join_v say_v he_o we_o be_v certify_v that_o those_o word_n be_v not_o figurative_a nor_o only_a token_n &_o bare_a sign_n but_o work_v &_o make_v that_o which_o be_v say_v etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o main_a post_n of_o sanders_n building_n which_o if_o it_o be_v prove_v rot_v than_o his_o house_n stand_v upon_o a_o false_a ground_n in_o genesis_n 49._o blessing_n and_o word_n be_v join_v together_o and_o yet_o most_o part_n of_o the_o word_n be_v figurative_a jacob_n in_o the_o name_n of_o god_n and_o by_o 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have_v be_v satisfy_v in_o this_o book_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 26._o the_o eight_o head_n be_v the_o adoration_n late_o confute_v the_o nine_o that_o they_o affirm_v wicked_a man_n to_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n for_o which_o he_o send_v we_o to_o his_o authority_n cite_v lib._n 2._o ca._n 7._o &_o li._n 5._o ca._n 9_o where_o thou_o shall_v find_v the_o confutation_n as_o of_o the_o rest_n so_o quote_v by_o he_o the_o ten_o that_o they_o teach_v our_o body_n to_o be_v nourish_v with_o christ_n flesh_n &_o blood_n li._n 2._o ca._n 5._o li._n 3._o ca._n 15._o &_o 16._o the_o 11._o that_o they_o teach_v we_o to_o be_v natural_o unite_v to_o christ_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 5._o the_o 12._o that_o they_o affirm_v christ_n body_n to_o be_v on_o the_o altar_n in_o the_o hand_n in_o the_o mouth_n and_o the_o blood_n to_o be_v in_o the_o cup_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 5._o the_o 13._o that_o they_o give_v it_o such_o name_n as_o only_o may_v agree_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o christ_n etc._n etc._n for_o which_o he_o quote_v cyprian_n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la domini_fw-la answer_v by_o i_o against_o heskin_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 29._o and_o chrysostome_n in_o 1._o cor._n hom._n 24._o answer_v in_o the_o four_o chapter_n of_o this_o book_n the_o 14._o that_o they_o teach_v every_o man_n to_o receive_v the_o same_o substance_n in_o one_o measure_n and_o equal_a portion_n for_o which_o he_o quote_v lib._n 1_o cap._n what_o be_v the_o supper_n &_o lib._n 4._o cap._n 12._o the_o 15._o that_o they_o use_v in_o show_v how_o it_o be_v sanctify_v the_o verb_n of_o create_v make_v work_a consecrate_v represent_v etc._n etc._n for_o which_o he_o quote_v cyprian_n de_fw-fr coen_n do._n answer_v by_o i_o against_o heskin_n lib_n 2._o cap._n 7._o also_o hierome_n in_o 26._o matth._n answer_v against_o heskin_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 18._o the_o 16._o that_o they_o speak_v of_o it_o covert_o say_v norunâ—_n fideles_fw-la lest_o the_o infidel_n shall_v mock_v at_o it_o for_o which_o he_o cit_v augustine_n &_o chrysostome_n be_v a_o feeble_a argument_n to_o prove_v the_o real_a presence_n for_o other_o speak_v open_o even_o to_o infidel_n as_o justinus_n &_o tertullian_n the_o 17._o that_o they_o have_v apply_v it_o to_o the_o help_a of_o the_o soul_n depart_v as_o be_v the_o very_a self_n substance_n that_o ransaked_a hell_n be_v false_a &_o not_o prove_v out_o of_o aug._n lib._n conf._n 9_o ca._n 13._o nor_o cyprian_a li._n 1._o ep._n 9_o as_o i_o have_v show_v against_o allen._n li._n 2._o cap._n 9_o &_o cap._n 7._o the_o 18._o that_o they_o teach_v it_o to_o be_v the_o truth_n which_o have_v succeed_v in_o place_n of_o the_o old_a figure_n for_o which_o he_o quote_v augustine_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la li._n 17._o cap._n 20._o where_o not_o such_o matter_n be_v but_o that_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v offer_v in_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o steed_n of_o all_o the_o old_a sacrifice_n &_o deliver_v to_o the_o communicant_n by_o which_o 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