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prove_v this_o altar_n to_o be_v appoint_v unto_o god_n service_n because_o it_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o the_o lord_n altar_n as_o our_o cross_n be_v a_o resemblance_n of_o christ_n cross_n be_v 1._o reprove_v by_o the_o reply_o because_o the_o cross_n whereon_o christ_n do_v suffer_v be_v no_o more_o holy_a than_o judas_n and_o so_o not_o to_o be_v compare_v unto_o the_o lord_n altar_n to_o this_o the_o rejoynder_n in_o many_o word_n make_v show_v of_o say_v something_o but_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o reader_n if_o he_o say_v any_o thing_n i_o for_o my_o part_n can_v not_o discern_v what_o it_o be_v 5._o the_o replier_n also_o in_o the_o second_o place_n allege_v that_o every_o resemblance_n of_o a_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o therefore_o holy_a because_o then_o every_o alehouse_n picture_n take_v from_o holy_a thing_n mention_v in_o scripture_n shall_v be_v holy_a and_o a_o model_n of_o the_o temple_n carry_v by_o a_o tyrian_a workman_n into_o his_o country_n for_o news_n shall_v 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magistrate_n the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o people_n and_o power_n to_o appoint_v unto_o all_o israel_n a_o solemn_a significant_a ceremony_n for_o their_o common_a use_n the_o rej._n add_v in_o the_o 2._o place_n that_o all_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o same_o help_n to_o devotion_n and_o the_o other_o tribe_n need_v no_o such_o monument_n or_o pattern_n have_v the_o altar_n itself_o in_o possession_n where_o 1._o except_o he_o hold_v the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a bind_v to_o set_v up_o this_o altar_n he_o make_v in_o that_o no_o difference_n if_o he_o so_o hold_v than_o it_o be_v no_o instance_n of_o a_o mere_a arbitrarie_a ceremony_n 2._o the_o two_o tribe_n have_v the_o lord_n altar_n in_o present_a possession_n as_o well_o as_o divers_a of_o the_o other_o so_o that_o by_o this_o reason_n they_o also_o for_o the_o present_a need_n no_o such_o monument_n and_o pattern_n which_o be_v the_o very_a point_n in_o this_o place_n question_v 7._o the_o reply_o affirm_v that_o in_o regard_n of_o posterity_n the_o immediate_a end_n of_o this_o altar_n be_v to_o testify_v that_o those_o tribe_n beyond_o jordan_n belong_v to_o the_o same_o people_n and_o so_o have_v right_a to_o the_o same_o worship_n with_o those_o of_o this_o side_n jordan_n which_o be_v nothing_o to_o a_o ceremony_n of_o state_n and_o immediate_a use_n in_o the_o special_a solemn_a worship_n of_o god_n the_o rejoynder_n ask_v if_o this_o be_v not_o a_o holy_a religious_a end_n i_o answer_v it_o be_v so_o holy_a and_o religious_a as_o every_o landmark_a of_o a_o parson_n glebe-land_n or_o every_o sign_n of_o a_o parish-bound_a be_v holy_a and_o religious_a but_o not_o so_o as_o mystical_a ceremony_n b._n andrew_n against_o perone_n p._n 18_o give_v some_o light_n to_o this_o by_o the_o ancient_a use_n of_o light_n and_o incense_v there_o be_v light_n say_v he_o there_o be_v incense_v use_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o their_o service_n not_o for_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n but_o as_o it_o be_v think_v for_o this_o cause_n that_o where_o the_o christian_n in_o time_n of_o persecution_n have_v their_o meeting_n most_o common_o in_o place_n dark_a and_o so_o need_v light_n and_o dampish_a and_o so_o need_v good_a savour_n they_o provide_v light_n against_o one_o and_o incense_v against_o the_o other_o after_o the_o church_n retain_v these_o thing_n to_o show_v themselves_o the_o successor_n of_o those_o ancient_a christian_n etc._n etc._n the_o after-age_n devize_v meaning_n and_o signification_n of_o their_o own_o which_o from_o the_o beginning_n be_v not_o so_o if_o this_o be_v so_o as_o it_o be_v think_v then_o there_o may_v be_v sign_n of_o succession_n unto_o religious_a forefather_n without_o any_o mystical_a meaning_n which_o be_v all_o that_o by_o we_o be_v plead_v about_o this_o altar_n of_o jordan_n and_o for_o further_a manifest_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o this_o altar_n let_v it_o be_v well_o consider_v what_o josephus_n one_o of_o the_o learnede_a and_o most_o ancient_a jew_n now_o exstant_fw-la say_v antiq._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 4._o they_o place_v a_o altar_n on_o the_o bank_n of_o the_o river_n as_o a_o memorable_a sign_n of_o the_o nearness_n and_o affinity_n of_o they_o that_o dwell_v beyond_o jordan_n viz._n with_o they_o within_o canaan_n again_o it_o be_v not_o place_v for_o worship_n but_o symbolical_o and_o as_o a_o memorandum_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o you_o 8._o the_o rejoynder_n as_o have_v sufficient_o confute_v all_o other_o answer_n bring_v in_o one_o make_v to_o himself_o in_o conference_n though_o he_o have_v not_o find_v it_o in_o print_n as_o a_o grand_a absurdity_n namely_o that_o the_o gileadite_n do_v ill_a in_o erect_v this_o altar_n and_o the_o rest_n also_o in_o allow_v of_o it_o now_o as_o for_o allowance_n by_o the_o high_a priest_n prince_n and_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n which_o he_o speak_v of_o i_o find_v it_o not_o evident_a in_o the_o text._n about_o the_o other_o i_o find_v this_o 1._o that_o d._n fulke_o no_o absurd_a divine_a against_o sander_n of_o image_n pag._n 649._o write_v thus_o in_o print_n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a josh._n 22._o make_v not_o a_o image_n but_o a_o altar_n for_o a_o memorial_n and_o yet_o their_o fact_n be_v not_o commendable_a though_o it_o be_v in_o some_o sort_n excusable_a 2._o i_o find_v also_o that_o calvin_n before_o he_o upon_o josh._n 22._o say_v thus_o duae_fw-la tribus_fw-la â—um_fw-la dimidia_fw-la non_fw-la leviter_fw-la peccarunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o two_o tribe_n and_o a_o half_a do_v very_o ill_a which_o be_v the_o great_a absurdity_n that_o the_o rejoynder_n have_v hear_v in_o conference_n but_o not_o see_v in_o print_n before_o now_o sect_n 17.18.19.20.21_o
begin_v to_o think_v of_o this_o course_n behold_v our_o most_o illustrious_a prince_n command_v i_o to_o do_v it_o which_o command_v of_o his_o do_v not_o only_o spur_v i_o on_o who_o of_o my_o own_o accord_n be_v already_o run_v but_o lay_v a_o necessity_n of_o write_v upon_o i_o wherefore_o this_o my_o boldness_n will_v seem_v the_o less_o strange_a unto_o your_o gracious_a majesty_n see_v my_o writing_n proceed_v not_o so_o much_o from_o my_o own_o will_n and_o counsel_n of_o friend_n as_o from_o the_o commandment_n of_o my_o most_o noble_a prince_n who_o be_v one_o of_o your_o gracious_a majesty_n special_a friend_n now_o i_o think_v i_o shall_v do_v a_o matter_n very_o worth_a the_o pain_n take_v if_o first_o i_o shall_v humble_o admonish_v your_o most_o famous_a majesty_n what_o your_o duty_n be_v in_o this_o cause_n and_o second_o if_o as_o your_o humble_a suppliant_a i_o shall_v beseech_v you_o for_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n sake_n to_o perform_v the_o same_o i_o beseech_v your_o gracious_a majesty_n to_o take_v this_o my_o writing_n in_o good_a part_n for_o it_o proceed_v from_o a_o christian_a love_n towards_o the_o church_n and_o from_o a_o especial_a reverend_a respect_n that_o i_o bear_v to_o your_o most_o gracious_a majesty_n the_o lord_n know_v all_o thing_n now_o to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n whereas_o the_o apostle_n write_v to_o timothy_n command_v that_o prayer_n be_v make_v for_o king_n and_o all_o other_o that_o be_v in_o authority_n and_o say_v that_o the_o end_n wherefore_o they_o be_v ordain_v be_v that_o we_o may_v lead_v a_o peaceable_a and_o quiet_a life_n in_o all_o that_o be_v perfect_a godliness_n and_o honesty_n he_o teach_v plain_o enough_o what_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o godly_a king_n and_o prince_n namely_o that_o they_o take_v care_n and_o bring_v to_o pass_v that_o first_o &_o above_o all_o thing_n true_a religion_n and_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n where_o it_o be_v banish_v be_v restore_v and_o be_v restore_v be_v keep_v pure_a all_o thing_n which_o smell_v of_o impiety_n be_v far_o remove_v second_o that_o man_n may_v live_v honest_o and_o holy_o all_o kind_n of_o uncleanness_n be_v abandon_v last_o that_o public_a peace_n &_o holy_a friendship_n be_v maintain_v among_o the_o subject_n all_o occasion_n of_o contention_n be_v as_o much_o as_o possible_a may_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o way_n as_o the_o apostle_n teach_v manifest_o as_o we_o have_v see_v so_o all_o learned_a man_n who_o be_v of_o sound_a judgement_n concern_v the_o magistrate_n office_n do_v with_o one_o consent_n affirm_v that_o these_o be_v the_o three_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o office_n of_o the_o prince_n and_o of_o every_o godly_a magistrate_n which_o thing_n be_v so_o i_o see_v not_o how_o your_o gracious_a majesty_n can_v with_o good_a conscience_n propound_v again_o the_o garment_n in_o question_n and_o other_o thing_n of_o that_o kind_n smell_v as_o yet_o of_o popish_a superstition_n and_o once_o banish_v out_o of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o conscience_n of_o the_o bishop_n misinform_v bishop_n paul_n bishop_n he_o mean_v or_o else_o as_o i_o say_v before_o he_o be_v misinform_v to_o be_v take_v on_o again_o and_o so_o propound_v they_o that_o you_o shall_v compel_v they_o by_o your_o commandment_n to_o receive_v they_o again_o for_o first_o this_o be_v quite_o contrary_a to_o the_o first_o and_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o prince_n office_n for_o if_o the_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o have_v a_o chief_a care_n that_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n be_v keep_v pure_a and_o without_o mixture_n and_o if_o for_o this_o cause_n all_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v abandon_v which_o may_v any_o way_n either_o by_o themselves_o or_o by_o accident_n defile_v this_o worship_n and_o therefore_o all_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v call_v back_o as_o much_o as_o may_v be_v to_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n and_o to_o the_o former_a and_o apostolical_a and_o so_o the_o more_o pure_a and_o simple_a form_n of_o religion_n final_o if_o as_o the_o apostle_n command_v we_o be_v to_o abstain_v not_o only_o from_o all_o evil_a but_o also_o from_o all_o appearance_n of_o evil_a to_o what_o end_n i_o beseech_v you_o most_o renown_a and_o most_o godly_a queen_n shall_v those_o thing_n be_v bring_v again_o into_o the_o church_n of_o god_n by_o the_o prince_n commandment_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o apostolical_a worship_n which_o smell_v of_o popish_a superstition_n which_o be_v neither_o available_a to_o the_o aedification_n of_o the_o godly_a nor_o to_o order_n nor_o for_o ornament_n except_o that_o which_o be_v whorish_a which_o last_o can_v bring_v no_o profit_n but_o on_o the_o contrary_a many_o evil_n to_o the_o church_n it_o be_v out_o of_o all_o doubt_n that_o by_o this_o law_n concern_v apparel_n all_o godly_a man_n will_v be_v offend_v but_o the_o wicked_a will_v laugh_v in_o their_o sleeve_n and_o hereby_o be_v put_v in_o hope_n to_o get_v many_o more_o thing_n as_o for_o those_o of_o the_o middle_a sort_n that_o be_v such_o as_o be_v new_o convert_v and_o turn_v from_o ungodliness_n to_o godliness_n and_o be_v not_o as_o yet_o well_o ground_v they_o will_v be_v in_o great_a danger_n and_o if_o we_o speak_v according_a to_o man_n judgement_n they_o will_v rather_o look_v back_o to_o the_o old_a superstition_n to_o which_o by_o nature_n we_o be_v incline_v then_o fix_v and_o fasten_v their_o eye_n upon_o true_a religion_n and_o therefore_o this_o be_v a_o decree_n which_o will_v bring_v no_o avancement_n at_o all_o to_o godliness_n but_o may_v much_o further_a ungodliness_n for_o though_o these_o garment_n be_v not_o evil_a and_o unclean_a of_o and_o by_o themselves_o that_o be_v of_o their_o own_o nature_n yet_o because_o of_o the_o former_a and_o late_a abuse_n they_o be_v not_o altogether_o free_a from_o uncleanness_n certain_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o they_o will_v at_o the_o least_o give_v occasion_n of_o many_o evil_n and_o very_o grievous_a superstition_n now_o the_o very_a occasion_n also_o of_o evil_n be_v to_o be_v shun_v to_o what_o end_n then_o shall_v these_o be_v thrust_v upon_o the_o church_n from_o who_o no_o profit_n can_v be_v hope_v very_o much_o evil_a may_v come_v for_o this_o be_v to_o tempt_v god_n your_o famous_a majesty_n may_v well_o remember_v that_o not_o without_o cause_n it_o be_v write_v he_o that_o touch_v pitch_n shall_v be_v defile_v with_o it_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v reason_n to_o command_v that_o we_o shall_v purge_v out_o the_o old_a leaven_n that_o a_o little_a leaven_n leaven_v the_o whole_a lump_n and_o that_o hosea_n do_v not_o foolish_o reprove_v the_o jew_n because_o they_o translate_v and_o bring_v a_o young_a graft_n of_o superstition_n out_o of_o israel_n into_o their_o own_o garden_n that_o be_v the_o true_a church_n we_o ought_v most_o religious_a queen_n to_o have_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o do_v with_o the_o papist_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n save_v in_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o have_v common_a with_o the_o apostle_n why_o i_o beseech_v you_o be_v some_o king_n otherwise_o godly_a reprove_v and_o blame_v in_o the_o scripture_n that_o they_o have_v not_o take_v away_o church_n or_o temple_n for_o divine_a service_n in_o the_o mountain_n which_o be_v build_v by_o holy_a father_n ere_o the_o build_n of_o the_o temple_n in_o which_o the_o lord_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v worship_v sure_o because_o the_o temple_n be_v now_o build_v and_o ordain_v for_o divine_a service_n god_n will_v not_o have_v any_o footstep_n of_o any_o other_o chapel_n at_o all_o to_o be_v extant_a therefore_o also_o when_o once_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n be_v manifest_v the_o ceremony_n and_o garment_n of_o aaron_n ought_v not_o any_o more_o to_o take_v place_n for_o this_o cause_n the_o apostle_n be_v upon_o good_a ground_n careful_a that_o after_o christ_n ascension_n they_o shall_v so_o be_v take_v away_o that_o no_o relic_n of_o they_o remain_v and_o if_o they_o take_v they_o away_o holy_o unho_o have_v the_o papist_n call_v they_o back_o again_o now_o whether_o be_v the_o better_a to_o â—ollow_v the_o godly_a simplicity_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o the_o ungodly_a pomp_n of_o the_o papist_n who_o be_v ignorant_a this_o recall_v of_o such_o popish_a garment_n your_o gracious_a majesty_n may_v believe_v i_o will_v be_v a_o great_a evil_n then_o peradventure_o it_o may_v be_v see_v even_o to_o very_o wise_a man_n at_o the_o first_o blush_n for_o i_o think_v i_o see_v and_o hear_v the_o monk_n cry_v out_o with_o very_o loud_a voice_n in_o the_o pulpit_n both_o confirm_v their_o follower_n in_o their_o ungodly_a religion_n by_o the_o example_n of_o your_o gracious_a majesty_n and_o also_o say_v what_o do_v not_o even_o the_o queen_n of_o england_n also_o a_o most_o
in_o such_o deal_n they_o will_v say_v all_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v do_v decent_o &_o in_o order_n to_o which_o we_o willing_o consent_v but_o allege_v again_o that_o we_o can_v apprehend_v these_o cerem_fw-la to_o be_v necessary_a for_o order_n &_o decency_n they_o as_o our_o lord_n tell_v we_o it_o be_v enough_o for_o our_o conscience_n that_o they_o esteem_v they_o so_o our_o conscience_n tell_v we_o this_o be_v to_o usurp_v the_o place_n of_o god_n what_o can_v we_o say_v less_o then_o that_o we_o will_v follow_v our_o conscience_n rather_o than_o their_o will_n to_o conclude_v the_o rej._n p._n 285._o make_v circumcision_n lawful_a to_o be_v impose_v upon_o the_o same_o ground_n that_o our_o english_a cerem_fw-la stand_v on_o now_o if_o it_o shall_v please_v our_o prelate_n in_o a_o convocation_n to_o apoynt_v that_o all_o english_a man_n shall_v consent_v to_o the_o cut_n of_o their_o foreskin_n &_o denounce_v war_o upon_o those_o that_o shall_v refuse_v this_o goodly_a canon_n be_v it_o not_o a_o grave_a accusation_n to_o lay_v all_o the_o mischief_n of_o such_o a_o war_n upon_o those_o which_o will_v not_o conform_v to_o such_o a_o ceremony_n but_o the_o weak_a must_v always_o go_v to_o the_o brickwall_n &_o the_o lamb_n must_v die_v for_o trouble_v the_o water_n if_o it_o please_v the_o lion_n so_o to_o determine_v it_o we_o have_v do_v with_o the_o disease_n &_o mischief_n together_o with_o the_o cause_n of_o it_o we_o be_v now_o come_v to_o consider_v the_o remedy_n the_fw-fr d_o r._n administer_v &_o we_o except_v against_o his_o deal_n herein_o as_o not_o plain_a nay_o not_o profitable_a even_o by_o his_o own_o rule_n 1._o he_o deal_v not_o plain_o for_o make_v the_o abolish_n of_o the_o cerem_fw-la by_o authority_n to_o be_v one_o &_o the_o chief_a course_n for_o cure_n as_o despair_a to_o obtain_v that_o he_o refuse_v to_o persuade_v thereunto_o because_o forsooth_o to_o judge_v what_o be_v most_o convenient_a &_o to_o determine_v thereof_o belong_v only_o to_o those_o who_o together_o with_o power_n of_o do_v what_o they_o shall_v well_o like_a have_v judgement_n to_o make_v choice_n of_o the_o best_a way_n which_o be_v a_o weak_a and_o a_o very_a unworthy_a conceit_n for._n 1._o d._n b._n can_v deny_v that_o those_o who_o impose_v urge_v and_o with_o capital_a punishment_n enforce_v these_o cerem_fw-la upon_o christ_n minister_n and_o people_n do_v therein_o abuse_v that_o authority_n which_o they_o receive_v for_o the_o procure_n of_o the_o quietness_n peace_n &_o safety_n of_o those_o that_o desire_v to_o serve_v god_n according_a to_o his_o word_n &_o not_o for_o the_o trouble_v vex_v &_o scandalize_a of_o they_o by_o oppose_v â—heir_o mere_a will_n in_o religious_a affair_n to_o man_n conscience_n depend_v whole_o and_o only_o upon_o god_n word_n he_o can_v i_o say_v deny_v this_o to_o be_v a_o grievous_a sin_n of_o those_o in_o place_n &_o yet_o refuse_v serious_o to_o admonish_v they_o of_o the_o same_o be_v call_v to_o give_v counsel_n &_o advice_n about_o this_o very_a cause_n 2._o it_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v that_o worthy_a minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o destitute_a of_o wisdom_n and_o judgement_n concern_v religious_a affair_n by_o this_o reason_n therefore_o d._n b._n may_v as_o well_o have_v forbear_v to_o judge_v what_o they_o shall_v choose_v as_o to_o determine_v so_o peremptory_o thereof_o last_o i_o will_v glad_o know_v of_o d._n b._n whether_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o able_a as_o well_o to_o make_v magistrate_n and_o governoure_v perfect_a to_o every_o good_a work_n as_o they_o can_v do_v minister_n whether_o either_o minister_n or_o magistrate_n shall_v do_v or_o aught_o to_o do_v any_o thing_n which_o god_n have_v not_o command_v they_o whether_o a_o faithful_a minister_n in_o his_o office_n ought_v not_o to_o understand_v what_o that_o word_n reveal_v ought_v not_o to_o teach_v all_o magistrate_n what_o out_o of_o the_o word_n he_o so_o understand_v if_o all_o which_o particular_n be_v plain_a &_o undeniable_a it_o will_v appear_v that_o it_o belong_v to_o d._n b._n be_v call_v to_o give_v counsel_n declarative_o to_o judge_v &_o determine_v what_o be_v convenient_a to_o be_v do_v which_o if_o he_o dare_v not_o declare_v he_o dare_v not_o do_v his_o duty_n and_o that_o i_o may_v fasten_v this_o nail_n yet_o more_o full_o i_o thus_o force_v the_o conclusion_n what_o ever_o duty_n of_o any_o call_n the_o word_n teach_v that_o the_o minister_n by_o the_o word_n ought_v to_o judge_v determine_v &_o deliver_v else_o how_o can_v he_o teach_v the_o whole_a counsel_n of_o god_n how_o can_v he_o give_v every_o one_o his_o portion_n but_o the_o duty_n and_o do_n if_o good_a of_o all_o magistrate_n the_o word_n teach_v ergo_fw-la the_o minister_n ought_v to_o judge_v &_o determine_v of_o those_o by_o the_o word_n &_o so_o deliver_v they_o ergo_fw-la it_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o those_o only_a who_o have_v power_n &_o be_v in_o place_n to_o judge_v &_o determine_v which_o be_v the_o doctor_n assertion_n again_o what_o ever_o god_n command_v that_o and_o all_o that_o the_o minister_n shall_v teach_v &_o so_o judge_v &_o determine_v else_o the_o trumpet_n shall_v give_v a_o uncertain_a sound_n but_o what_o ever_o man_n or_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o do_v that_o christ_n have_v command_v both_o the_o part_n of_o the_o argument_n be_v in_o 28._o math_n last_o v._n therefore_o the_o conclusion_n follow_v what_o ever_o man_n or_o magistrate_n ought_v to_o do_v minister_n shall_v teach_v and_o consequent_o judge_v and_o determine_v and_o as_o thus_o the_o rej._n deal_v not_o plain_o in_o his_o cure_n â—o_o whether_o have_v be_v deal_v profitable_o in_o that_o his_o â—eceit_n be_v against_o his_o own_o rule_n as_o it_o shall_v appear_v in_o â—he_n scan_v of_o his_o defence_n which_o we_o except_v against_o â—s_n insufficient_a in_o those_o particular_n wherein_o the_o stress_n â—nd_v weight_n of_o the_o plea_n lie_v and_o those_o appear_v in_o â—hree_o special_a objection_n he_o make_v the_o dint_n of_o none_o of_o which_o he_o be_v able_a to_o decline_v the_o objection_n be_v pag._n 12.13_o &_o the_o sum_n of_o they_o â—n_o short_a be_v this_o writing_n stir_v strife_n ob_fw-la 2._o exasperatâ—eh_o authority_n obj._n 3_o hinder_v the_o removeall_n of_o the_o cerem_fw-la ob_fw-la 4._o hear_v we_o now_o his_o defence_n to_o each_o of_o these_o in_o order_n to_o the_o first_o he_o answer_v in_o truth_n by_o denial_n that_o this_o course_n of_o he_o be_v so_o far_o from_o stir_v the_o fire_n of_o contention_n that_o its_o cast_v on_o water_n to_o quench_v â—t_a &_o to_o this_o also_o belong_v that_o p._n 11._o there_o be_v a_o necessity_n that_o some_o shall_v speak_v for_o the_o cause_n unless_o we_o shall_v suffer_v ourselves_o not_o only_o to_o be_v root_v â—ut_v of_o our_o live_n but_o which_o be_v worse_o out_o of_o the_o heart_n of_o our_o people_n who_o we_o serve_v in_o the_o lord_n ans_fw-fr bare_a denial_n 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christ._n and_o this_o may_v be_v the_o reason_n why_o the_o repl._n pass_v over_o this_o example_n as_o of_o no_o moment_n for_o we_o do_v not_o fear_v as_o the_o rej._n imagine_v lest_o all_o the_o church_n of_o god_n will_v condemn_v we_o herein_o those_o that_o consent_n with_o geneva_n nor_o those_o of_o scotland_n except_o some_o of_o the_o new_a edition_n no_o nor_o any_o that_o follow_v bucers_n judgement_n in_o mat._n 12._o sanctificatur_fw-la ferias_fw-la alius_fw-la prater_fw-la diem_fw-la dominicum_fw-la sive_fw-la christi_fw-la etc._n etc._n optarim_n abrogatas_fw-la universas_fw-la zelus_n ille_fw-la quo_fw-la introductae_fw-la fuere_fw-la omni_fw-la verbo_fw-la &_o exemplo_fw-la scripturae_fw-la caruit_fw-la mereque_fw-la rationem_fw-la secutus_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la ferias_fw-la ethnico_fw-la rum_o seu_fw-la clavum_fw-la clavo_fw-la truderet_fw-la tantis_fw-la supâ—rtitionibus_fw-la contaminata_fw-la illa_fw-la festa_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la mirer_fw-la si_fw-la quisquam_fw-la christianus_n fit_a qui_fw-la ad_fw-la nomina_fw-la corum_fw-la non_fw-la exhorrescat_fw-la etc._n etc._n dominicum_fw-la diom_n resurrectionis_fw-la christigaudium_fw-la festiviorem_fw-la nobis_fw-la reddidit_fw-la etc._n etc._n nullum_fw-la prudentem_fw-la virum_fw-la audivi_fw-la quâ—_n non_fw-la censeat_fw-la magnam_fw-la pâ—râ—m_fw-la aliorum_fw-la festorum_fw-la abolendam_fw-la maximè_fw-la consentaneum_fw-la est_fw-la cum_fw-la princa_fw-la institutione_n &_o cum_fw-la scriptis_fw-la aposteliâ—_n ut_fw-la unus_fw-la tantum_fw-la dies_fw-la in_o sâ—ptimana_fw-la sanctificatur_fw-la i_o will_v to_o god_n that_o every_o holiday_n whatsoever_o beside_o the_o lord_n day_n be_v abolish_v that_o zeal_n which_o bring_v they_o first_o in_o be_v without_o all_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n and_o mere_o follow_v corrupt_a reason_n forsooth_o to_o drive_v out_o the_o holy_a day_n of_o the_o pagan_n as_o one_o nail_n drive_v out_o another_o those_o holy_a day_n have_v be_v so_o taint_v with_o superstition_n that_o i_o wonder_v we_o tremble_v not_o at_o their_o very_a name_n see_v the_o place_n occolampadius_n in_o isaiam_n cap._n 1._o v._n 4._o think_v that_o no_o wise_a christian_n will_v condemn_v we_o i_o never_o hear_v wise_a man_n yet_o who_o do_v not_o judge_v that_o a_o great_a part_n at_o least_o of_o other_o feast_n beside_o the_o lord_n day_n shall_v be_v abolish_v he_o insinuate_v manifest_o more_o than_o he_o speak_v zanchie_a how_o favourable_a soever_o he_o speak_v of_o some_o festival_n can_v condemn_v we_o by_o that_o sentence_n of_o he_o in_o 4._o praec_fw-la it_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o first_o institution_n and_o apostolical_a writing_n that_o only_o one_o day_n in_o the_o week_n be_v keep_v holy_a sect_n 33._o in_o this_o section_n which_o the_o repl._n think_v to_o require_v no_o answer_n the_o sum_n be_v that_o we_o be_v cross_v and_o contrary_a to_o the_o author_n of_o our_o seruice-booke_n who_o think_v our_o ceremony_n to_o be_v the_o better_a for_o be_v significant_a now_o if_o this_o be_v understand_v so_o as_o if_o we_o dislike_v the_o significancy_n of_o they_o because_o those_o reverend_a man_n do_v like_o it_o then_o we_o be_v uncharitable_o wrong_v by_o rash_a judgement_n if_o so_o that_o though_o such_o excellent_a man_n do_v think_v so_o yet_o we_o think_v otherwise_o then_o our_o answer_n be_v they_o be_v man_n and_o though_o they_o see_v much_o evil_n in_o popish_a ceremony_n yet_o not_o all_o and_o therefore_o judge_v some_o tolerable_a for_o a_o time_n which_o be_v free_a from_o some_o fault_n that_o other_o be_v guilty_a of_o though_o they_o banish_v divers_a which_o be_v as_o free_v from_o darkness_n and_o dumbness_n as_o those_o they_o retain_v why_o they_o remove_v those_o we_o see_v good_a reason_n why_o they_o retain_v or_o rather_o tolerate_v these_o more_o than_o they_o we_o see_v none_o that_o experience_n have_v not_o confute_v sect_n 34._o 1._o in_o this_o last_o section_n this_o reason_n be_v bring_v accord_v to_o the_o rej._n his_o construction_n if_o all_o ceremony_n proper_o so_o call_v must_v some_o way_n be_v significant_a then_o either_o all_o ceremony_n be_v unlawful_a or_o some_o significant_a ceremony_n be_v lawful_a to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o that_o all_o outward_a action_n design_v or_o purposely_o observe_v and_o do_v in_o reference_n to_o some_o other_o thing_n beside_o the_o cause_n or_o part_v thereof_o which_o be_v the_o rej._n his_o definition_n of_o a_o ceremony_n manuduct_n p._n 29.30_o be_v not_o mystical_o significant_a by_o the_o rejoynder_n his_o own_o doctrine_n ibid._n pag._n 32.33_o mystical_a signification_n or_o the_o want_n of_o it_o do_v not_o make_v a_o ceremony_n or_o no_o ceremony_n a_o character_n of_o significancie_n make_v a_o double_a or_o treble_a ceremony_n relation_n without_o signification_n make_v a_o single_a ceremony_n so_o pag._n 39_o simple_n ceremony_n be_v those_o who_o use_n be_v only_o for_o order_n and_o decency_n double_v be_v those_o which_o serve_v also_o to_o edÃfication_n 1._o by_o some_o profitable_a signification_n 2._o if_o all_o ceremony_n be_v significant_a yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o they_o all_o teach_v a_o spiritual_a duty_n by_o their_o institute_v mystical_a signification_n of_o which_o kind_n of_o signification_n all_o the_o question_n be_v in_o this_o chapter_n as_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o the_o first_o section_n 3._o if_o all_o ceremony_n be_v significant_a then_o there_o be_v no_o sense_n in_o expose_v double_a ceremony_n to_o significant_a because_o none_o be_v or_o can_v be_v dumb_a aâ—d_v yet_o this_o opposition_n be_v make_v use_n of_o by_o the_o def._n and_o rej._o as_o other_o where_o so_o in_o these_o two_o last_o section_n 2._o the_o repl._n take_v from_o the_o def._n this_o proposition_n nothing_o be_v proper_o call_v a_o ceremony_n if_o it_o be_v altogether_o destitute_a of_o signification_n say_v that_o this_o convince_v not_o we_o at_o all_o 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deut._n 14_o 1._o and_o 12.4_o and_o 30.32_o 2._o cor._n 6.14.18_o rev._n 18.4_o 1._o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v here_o allege_v in_o the_o abridgement_n as_o forbid_v all_o provocation_n unto_o spiritual_a fornication_n as_o the_o seven_o do_v unto_o that_o which_o be_v carnal_a this_o the_o def._n pass_v by_o in_o silence_n and_o therein_o be_v defend_v by_o the_o rej._n because_o according_a to_o his_o method_n in_o one_o particular_a argument_n he_o take_v knowledge_n of_o it_o par_fw-fr 2._o c._n 2._o s._n 2._o as_o if_o john_n a-stile_n his_o plea_n for_o 3._o acre_n of_o ground_n be_v sufficient_o answer_v by_o john_n a-noxe_a if_o he_o cold_a with_o any_o show_n ward_v it_o off_o from_o 1._o acre_n his_o own_o answer_n be_v that_o as_o the_o seven_o commandment_n do_v not_o forbid_v the_o use_n of_o all_o such_o thing_n as_o accidental_o do_v or_o may_v provoke_v some_o man_n to_o base_a uncleanness_n but_o only_o such_o as_o in_o and_o of_o themselves_o be_v work_a incitement_n thereto_o so_o neither_o do_v the_o second_o commandment_n forbid_v the_o use_n of_o all_o such_o thing_n as_o the_o lust_n of_o some_o idolater_n may_v turn_v to_o spiritual_a fornication_n but_o only_o of_o such_o as_o have_v in_o themselves_o or_o in_o such_o use_n of_o they_o a_o habitude_n or_o aptness_n to_o provoke_v thereto_o but_o 1._o our_o divine_n general_o teach_v as_o zanchy_a de_fw-mi red._n lib._n 1._o cap._n 14._o brief_o express_v their_o meaning_n the_o sum_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n be_v that_o in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n or_o ceremony_n thereabouts_o we_o be_v to_o devise_v nothing_o of_o our_o own_o brain_n or_o borrow_v aught_o of_o heathenish_a idolatrous_a rite_n etc._n summa_fw-la est_fw-la secundi_fw-la pracepti_fw-la in_fw-la externo_fw-la cultu_fw-la qui_fw-la deo_fw-la debetur_fw-la seu_fw-la in_o ceremonijs_fw-la nihil_fw-la nobis_fw-la esse_fw-la ex_fw-la nostrâ—_fw-la capite_fw-la comminiscendum_fw-la neque_fw-la ex_fw-la ritibus_fw-la gentium_fw-la idololatrarum_fw-la adhibendum_fw-la etc._n etc._n 2._o let_v this_o be_v so_o the_o question_n yet_o remain_v whether_o our_o ceremony_n the_o cross_n for_o example_n have_v not_o some_o habitude_n and_o aptness_n to_o provoke_v towards_o idolatry_n i_o think_v it_o will_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o the_o cross_n be_v a_o idol_n at_o paris_n at_o calis_n and_o among_o the_o papist_n in_o england_n now_o suppose_v a_o know_a harlot_n to_o be_v bring_v out_o of_o the_o stue_n at_o paris_n or_o calis_n unto_o dover_n and_o lodge_v there_o in_o a_o honest_a man_n bed_n or_o bedchamber_n as_o the_o cross_n be_v in_o the_o bed_n of_o our_o religion_n the_o holy_a sacrament_n will_v any_o man_n say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o habitude_n nor_o aptness_n in_o such_o a_o harlot_n and_o her_o lodging_n to_o provoke_v even_o a_o honest_a man_n and_o much_o more_o a_o dissolute_a companion_n unto_o filthy_a folly_n difference_n i_o know_v none_o but_o only_o that_o the_o 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