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A15057 An ansvvere to the Ten reasons of Edmund Campian the Iesuit in confidence wherof he offered disputation to the ministers of the Church of England, in the controuersie of faith. Whereunto is added in briefe marginall notes, the summe of the defence of those reasons by Iohn Duræus the Scot, being a priest and a Iesuit, with a reply vnto it. Written first in the Latine tongue by the reuerend and faithfull seruant of Christ and his Church, William Whitakers, Doctor in Diuinitie, and the Kings Professor and publike reader of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Cambridge. And now faithfully translated for the benefit of the vnlearned (at the appointment and desire of some in authoritie) into the English tongue; by Richard Stocke, preacher in London. ...; Ad Rationes decem Edmundi Campiani Jesuitæ responsio. English Whitaker, William, 1548-1595.; Campion, Edmund, Saint, 1540-1581. Rationes decem. English.; Stock, Richard, 1569?-1626.; Whitaker, William, 1548-1595. Responsionis ad Decem illas rationes.; Durie, John, d. 1587. Confutatio responsionis Gulielmi Whitakeri ad Rationes decem. Selections. 1606 (1606) STC 25360; ESTC S119870 383,859 364

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thing_n either_o then_o deny_v that_o any_o la_o be_v write_v touch_v small_a offence_n or_o else_o confess_v that_o that_o curse_n belong_v to_o the_o least_o offence_n if_o the_o apostle_n have_v understand_v it_o as_o you_o do_v the_o galathian_o may_v have_v answer_v he_o that_o they_o be_v free_a from_o those_o great_a sin_n and_o so_o from_o the_o curse_n and_o therefore_o may_v well_o hope_v to_o be_v justify_v by_o the_o law._n final_o if_o gal._n 3.13_o christ_n have_v free_v we_o from_o the_o curse_n of_o the_o law_n shall_v we_o think_v that_o this_o be_v only_o from_o the_o curse_n due_a to_o a_o few_o grievous_a sinner_n i_o hope_v by_o this_o time_n you_o see_v
remember_v as_o the_o patriarch_n prophet_n and_o apostle_n be_v to_o show_v she_o be_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n ibid._n &_o 306._o &_o nota_fw-la 17_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a rise_v not_o from_o the_o scripture_n but_o from_o the_o excessive_a love_n of_o the_o live_n to_o the_o dead_a ibid._n 18_o augustine_n never_o pray_v for_o his_o mother_n as_o think_v she_o to_o be_v in_o purgatory_n ibid._n 19_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v to_o be_v judge_v of_o not_o by_o one_o particular_a judgement_n but_o by_o their_o constant_a opinion_n ibid._n 20_o the_o monk_n of_o popery_n much_o unlike_o the_o monk_n of_o ancient_a time_n 307_o 21_o satyrus_n challenge_v by_o campian_n for_o this_o because_o he_o can_v swim_v ibid._n 22_o the_o schoolman_n differ_v often_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n 308._o nota_fw-la 23_o papist_n and_o the_o jesuit_n live_v as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o heaven_n ibi_fw-la 24_o the_o doctrine_n of_o papist_n be_v such_o as_o whosoever_o hold_v it_o whole_o can_v reign_v with_o christ_n 309_o 25_o antichrist_n of_o rome_n have_v enlarge_v hell_n more_o than_o all_o tyrant_n and_o heretic_n ibid._n 26_o the_o cause_n why_o christian_n resort_v so_o much_o to_o jerusalem_n after_o christ_n death_n 310_o 27_o superstitious_a pilgrimage_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o word_n and_o condemn_v by_o gregory_n nyssen_n and_o bernard_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 28_o the_o cause_n why_o the_o jew_n hate_n christian_n be_v the_o gospel_n not_o the_o spoil_n of_o they_o of_o their_o priesthood_n and_o kingdom_n which_o be_v do_v by_o heathenish_a tyrant_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 29_o the_o papist_n great_a friend_n to_o the_o jew_n allow_v they_o toleration_n 311_o 30_o papist_n be_v not_o the_o offspring_n of_o the_o father_n 312_o 31_o light_n be_v use_v by_o christian_n only_o when_o they_o be_v force_v to_o meet_v in_o the_o night_n and_o after_o without_o any_o ground_n of_o scripture_n custom_n bring_v they_o to_o be_v light_v at_o noon_n day_n 312._o &_o nota_fw-la 32_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v once_o poor_a when_o it_o have_v wooden_a chalice_n and_o golden_a priest_n but_o v●bane_n the_o pope_n make_v all_o the_o minister_a dish_n of_o silver_n 313._o nota_fw-la 33_o constantine_n quiet_v the_o trouble_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o since_o his_o time_n as_o s●e_n have_v increase_v in_o wealth_n so_o she_o have_v decrease_v in_o piety_n ibid._n 34_o constantine_n be_v not_o baptize_v by_o sylvester_n bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o be_v dead_a long_o before_o his_o baptism_n 314_o 35_o constantine_n use_v the_o cross_n in_o his_o arm_n and_o banner_n but_o never_o worship_v it_o ibid._n 36_o constantine_n have_v not_o the_o low_a place_n in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a but_o the_o chief_a ibid._n 37_o the_o turk_n never_o less_o prevail_v they_o since_o luther_n time_n 315_o 38_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o deal_n do_v much_o enlarge_v the_o turk_n by_o divide_v the_o empire_n ibid._n 39_o the_o turk_n be_v great_a enemy_n to_o the_o greek_a church_n then_o to_o the_o latin_a 316_o 40_o simon_n magus_n deny_v all_o freewill_n unto_o man_n which_o protestant_n do_v not_o neither_o do_v caluine_n ibid._n &_o nota_fw-la 41_o protestant_n be_v far_o from_o that_o error_n of_o the_o novatians_n touch_v the_o repentance_n of_o those_o who_o be_v fall_v ibid._n 42_o they_o be_v far_o different_a from_o the_o manichee_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n 317_o 43_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o along_o time_n be_v more_o excellent_a than_o the_o rest_n and_o so_o account_v yet_o for_o all_o that_o it_o never_o have_v neither_o in_o that_o respect_n ought_v to_o have_v dominion_n over_o the_o rest_n 318._o &_o nota_fw-la 44_o augustine_n and_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n forbid_v that_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o chief_a sea_n shall_v not_o be_v call_v prince_n of_o priest_n ibid._n and_o to_o it_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n submit_v himself_o for_o a_o time_n 319._o &_o nota_fw-la 45_o the_o 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i_o confess_v indeed_o that_o that_o defence_n of_o illyricus_n do_v seem_v ever_o very_o absurd_a to_o i_o for_o it_o both_o smell_n of_o the_o folly_n of_o the_o manichy_n and_o it_o make_v two_o soul_n in_o a_o regenerate_a man_n and_o which_o be_v a_o great_a matter_n it_o destroy_v the_o soul_n that_o be_v always_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n which_o i_o profess_v to_o be_v we_o that_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o soul_n be_v not_o quite_o slay_v by_o sin_n but_o only_o charge_v and_o infect_v with_o vicious_a quality_n and_o that_o sin_n be_v no_o inward_a substance_n of_o the_o soul_n but_o a_o freewill_n a_o dur_fw-la the_o catholic_a church_n never_o believe_v that_o sin_n be_v a_o accident_n or_o quality_n but_o only_o a_o privation_n for_o if_o it_o be_v a_o accident_n god_n shall_v be_v the_o cause_n and_o author_n of_o it_o whit._n pag._n 573._o but_o this_o privation_n be_v it_o not_o a_o accidental_a thing_n why_o then_o make_v you_o a_o scruple_n in_o word_n when_o you_o understand_v the_o sense_n a_o accident_n be_v common_o call_v that_o which_o be_v in_o some_o substance_n but_o be_v no_o part_n of_o it_o which_o may_v either_o be_v absent_a or_o present_a without_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o subject_n and_o such_o a_o thing_n every_o man_n know_v sin_n be_v and_o though_o i_o confess_v that_o the_o nature_n of_o sin_n consist_v in_o a_o privation_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o a_o bare_a privation_n as_o you_o may_v learn_v ou●_n of_o your_o thomas_n for._n 1.2_o quaest_a 82._o art_n 1._o he_o say_v sin_n be_v not_o a_o mere_a privation_n but_o a_o corrupt_a habit_n like_v unto_o a_o disease_n whereby_o not_o only_a health_n be_v take_v away_o but_o bad_a humour_n be_v bring_v upon_o the_o body_n and_o the_o school_n man_n when_o they_o make_v privation_n of_o original_a justice_n to_o be_v the_o form_n of_o original_a sin_n and_o the_o matter_n to_o be_v concupiscence_n or_o a_o corrupt_a inclination_n of_o the_o faculty_n 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cap._n 25._o but_o a_o quality_n contrary_n to_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o soul_n augustine_n sin_n augustine_n dur_fw-la augustine_n will_v accuse_v you_o for_o slander_v he_o because_o he_o speak_v not_o of_o sin_n but_o of_o concupiscence_n which_o he_o account_v to_o be_v no_o sin_n whit._n pag._n 576._o do_v augustine_n account_n concupiscence_n no_o sin_n why_o then_o call_v he_o it_o a_o affection_n of_o a_o evil_a quality_n why_o do_v he_o compare_v it_o to_o a_o disease_n why_o do_v he_o demand_v the_o question_n how_o concupiscence_n shall_v remain_v in_o the_o regenerate_a who_o sin_n be_v all_o remit_v if_o it_o be_v not_o a_o sin_n his_o answer_v prove_v it_o yet_o more_o full_o for_o he_o say_v concupiscence_n be_v remit_v in_o baptism_n not_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v no_o sin_n at_o all_o as_o you_o will_v have_v it_o but_o that_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v impute_v for_o a_o sin_n if_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n how_o can_v it_o be_v impute_v for_o a_o sin_n final_o august_n 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that_o term_n from_o i_o be_v you_o so_o far_o spend_v that_o you_o be_v not_o able_a to_o charge_v we_o with_o any_o true_a crime_n but_o shameless_o to_o object_v those_o thing_n against_o we_o from_o which_o we_o of_o all_o other_o be_v far_a off_o for_o who_o do_v ever_o more_o vehement_o disallow_v or_o more_o strong_o confute_v this_o paradox_n of_o the_o stoic_n than_o our_o divine_n who_o you_o now_o pursue_v all_o record_n of_o these_o time_n may_v be_v witness_n hereof_o our_o book_n church_n and_o school_n be_v witness_n as_o also_o both_o the_o civil_a and_o church_n discipline_n may_v be_v a_o witness_n do_v you_o think_v that_o you_o can_v creep_v
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