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A89872	Anti-Machiavell. Or, honesty against poljcy An answer to that vaine discourse, the case of the kingdome stated, according to the proper interests of the severall parties ingaged. By a lover of truth, peace, and honesty.	Lover of Truth, Peace, and Honesty.; Nedham, Marchamont, 1620-1678, attributed name.	1647 (1647)	Wing N375; Thomason E396_16; ESTC R201652	19,689	26

distinction between ministers and people how inconsistent is that with plain Scripture but some of the people faith he must be admitted into the partnership of tyranny but the preaching Presbyter will sway all with other such like passages full of scorne and bitternesse which cannot have probabuity without making the people witlesse and the Minister without honesty which insinuations as they discover his poysonous stomacke so will they make him not our government odious with the godly and intelligent Citizen But the fourth is yet more vile and Machivillian for the labours to work upon the corruptions of men to make them think that that order that is appointed for to keep the ordinance from pollution and them from prophanation is an infringment of just liberty which is but a moderate restraint to Libertinisme and stirs them to shake of Government that they may use use sinfull wayes without fear or check nay he excites the lawyers too with feares of what may be If this be not wicked Machivilianisme ther 's none in the world and I doubt not but the prudent Citizen will finde it with detestations of his Jesuiticall insinuations against wholesome and holy order but what are these to the power and greatnesse of the City to moderate it sure distemper hath made the man forget himselfe and fit the bit for the wrong mouth But 5ly he comes to the matter and begins to threaten that if they doe any thing to hinder the union of interests between Royalist and Independent then her greatnesse will begin to be suspected That is if they crosse the designes of these Saints they will rayle against them like c. and doe their best to make them odious and to set it on tels them of a secret whisper of wisemen that is Independents of whom he said in his Preface A word is enough to the wise But 6ly he flies nigher and threatens danger to the City wealth if they make so much shew of it That is to crosse Independent designes otherwise no danger that the Priace or state which is jealous may secure them and feare the vast and unmeasurable Revennes of their Halls as sometimes the Abbies the reason being the same for this is that and much more pressing here is not onely Machivilian policy to keep them o● from opposition by feares of what is deare But I feare a worse snake in the grasse even the hissing on the Prince to seize on such a prey in which they may hope for a share after union of interests Tantane animis caelestibus irae The Abbots with their monkes being regulars were immediatly under the Pope Let it be demanded of Tenants whether they had rather hold of Hals Colledges Hospitals then of private-Landlords or what the reason is that there is such seeking to be the immediate tenants of Hals c. if it be any prejudice to the Commonalty And what use do the severall Hals of London make of their revenues but maintain their decayed Members or young schollers at the University or lecturers in barren Countries and such like and can they be rightly deemed fit objects of rapine and envy and exempt from the jurisdiction of the Nation and being the Popes creatures advanc't his interest against the Nations and so were justly look't on with an evill eye but for the lying dead of their lands that 's a false suggestion sith they could not be allienated yet they were possest by leases passable from man to man which were little inferiour to free-land and yet came at easie rates so that the commonalty had more benefit by them then after alienation of them to private lords the maine reason then against Abbies hath no place against the lands of Halls in the City nor are they of such vastnesse as to be a just cause of grievance or envy to any but such as are transported with malice or prejudice or greedines after that which belongs to others Lastly faith he sith Presbytery is onely of the world before he said she took in some of the wisdome and much of the power of the world now she is onely of the world his tongue changes with his interest it seems see pag. 11. They may consider how its like to thrive in the world if his assertion were true well enough the world would love her owne but they saies he greatly detest it And therefore if the City appeare for it they shall be the onely Bandiers against the King and Independents for the setling of a Government which neither we nor our children shall be able to beare yet Reformed Churches fathers and children have borne it and then they shall bear the odium of a second war nay that I should never counsell against the King unlesse the warrant had been clearer or the successe of this had been better for the publike but I beleeve if the City should stirre a new War and miscarry if such spirits as this might have their way York should be or any thing that might testifie revenge for affronting them whom they should have admired if not adored yet though I would not have the City to wage a new Warre it may not be amisse for the City to stand upon her own guard and not to lie at the devoyre of those whose great oratours doe with such dangerous and odious expressions lay her out as a most rich booty sometimes nothing will prevent warre or intolerable oppression but preparation for it And being in a posture not to offend but to defend her selfe she might be in a circumstance on occasion to rescue or receive the King and to maintaine him in his place once returned if those who cry him up for interest should upon change of interest prove dangerous to him And also according to covenant to defend the Parliament if it shall appeare that not the regulating but the destruction of it or of any of the innocent members of it is sought His conclusion is that the City should stand newtrall c. The Independents have helpt to put them on to petition against Episcopacy roote and branch and to draw them into covenant to indeavour it and not for feare or any cause to decline to detestable newtrality because then their interests lay that way now because their interest lyes in union with Episcopacy the City must sit still newtrall while Episcopacy is voted up what a snare have they brought the poore people into from such interest-mongers good Lord deliver all sinceresimple hearted people for another war the Covenant will not ingage them they are but to indeavour according to their callings let them repent and pray and use all morall meanes and if after all they must injoy the Gospel with tribulation I dare assure them they will have more true comfort in their dearest suffering then the Independents in their glorious union with those that they have hated and indeavoured to persecute to the death And thus I have gone through this book of which I must confesse I never faw more Policy or lesse Honesty in so narrow a compasse Postscript What is here spoken against Independents is onely intended against such as are of this Pamphleteers judgement whose Machivilian principles and plots I beleeve many sincere amongst them abhorre as well as my self to whom I wish all happines and would not injure nor expose to envy for the Errors of others FINIS

taken the Covenant stand ingaged to keep it out and for them for any politique reason to helpe it in again is to help to set in their conceits a plant not of Gods planting and that with breach of Covenant which will argue such levity and dishonesty so to alter against conscience and Covenant for interest that will make honest men abhorre and wisemen afraid to associate with them lest their interest change for then no bonds will hold them fast in freindship In the 4th Reason he dictates to us an everlasting practise of the Clergy to strengthen themselves which we must beleeve because he saith so without proofe But one particular is to mingle interests with the State or Prince c. which hath been no meane artifice of the Devill Yet reason third he perswades the Prince to mingle interests with them so rather then faile he will use the artifices of the Devill to uphold his Babell Flectere si neque as superos Acheronta movebis Last reason is that the King by closing with the Independent may so abate the fury of the Presbiterian that those of his party excepted from pardon may at last obtaine the benefit of an Act of oblivion Is not here brave and palpable jugling now as though it were onely the fury of the Presbyterians that hindred the Act of oblivion or generall pardon who though they be not altogether to be excused yet how notorious is it that none were more averse to any favour to the Kings party then the Independent and that upon pretence of conscience because blood must be expiated by blood till interest mitigates them which though it should over-rule passions and humours yet should give way to conscience Who knowes not that the Scots the most rigid Presbyterians would have had the propositions lower to gratifie the King And wherein could they have done that more acceptably than in favouring his party which to speak ingeniously he cannot deliver up to suffering in honour or conscience but he must asperse the sincerity of his own designes and protestations wherein they were his assistants The rest of the Presbyterians therefore may doe well to gratifie the King in this it may be a meanes to win upon him to gratifie them in matter of Reformation desired at least to hasten a setled peace a thing that all not onely in obedience to the commands of following peace but from the experience of the mischievous consequences of war both civill and spirituall should most earnestly thirst after no visible inconvenience of an Act of oblivion can over-weigh the misery and danger of Church and State for want of it if we can either buy truth or peace by an Act of oblivion he sees little that sees it not a good bargaine nor need conscience startle David in two civill wars to end the one 2 Sam. 3.20 21.28 to prevent new broyles after the other shed no more blood then what the fury of battell drew 2 Sam. 14.22.23 Therefore we have as good warrant for conscience to yeeld to an Act of oblivion for peace as our Saviour brought to clear his disciples from sabbath-breaking Matth. 12. Have ye not read what David did when he was hungry So have yee not read what David did when he had civill wars to prevent blood He let blood goe unpunished and yet the case in Davids warre was unquestionable whereas whoever shall consider the practise in our Kingdome the oathes of Supremacy and allegiance The Kings pretences and protestations must needs acknowledge that if there is not enough to oblige all yet there was so much shew that might draw well meaning men to his party that sure should incline much to moderation to his party and thus this reason would be turned against the Pamphleter I might after his reason call to him for politick observations out of History to strengthen his assertions touching Independents according to his own direction pag. 1. But alasse search all the Histories of the Church and you must returne a non est inventus what need had he then to jeere others I hope by this time its cleare there was no reason so to boast his counsell to the King Honesty in a few words will give more wholsome counsell That the King and his partty now brought low would search and try their wayes and see what was amisse in his cause or in their carriage Whether though he thought the demands unreasonable yet as things stood to prevent blood he should not have condescended lower Whether there were not many miscarriages in prosecution And withall to turne from men to God and see what God hath against them for abuse of power eminence wealth in oppression pride riot and whether many under him and them did not suffer like things to those which they now suffer being driven from house and home their families scattered and this for conscience and sometimes without nay against law And so with Rehoboam and his Princes acknowledge the righteousnesse of the Lord humbly before him commit themselves to him pray and waite and God will without any shifts or violation of conscience undoubtedly in due time exalt him and those of his that doe so improve the heavie strokes of God upon them And when God hath set him upon his throne let him exactly observe all his promises and protestations for cleaving to the Lawes promoting true Religion Justice in all his dealing to his People declining all shew of revenge for so shall he justifie his former proceedings be great in the thoughts and hearts of his People and Princes loved for justice shall never be straited in power Touching the interest of the Presbyterian and his party HEre he tells us First by way of preface that Presbytery was borne at Genevah what doth he think then of that 1 Tim. 4.14 The laying on of the hands of the Presbyterie was that spoken by way of anticipation As the Anti-sabbatarians say of Gen. 2.23 c. Or was he named before he was borne When born he was nurst up in the desires of many in England and whereas men use to be disaffected to the setled Government either out of envie or conscience he willingly allowes for good reason the Presbyters who reckon themselves for the old Puritans of England so much right as to think their disaffection proceeded meerly from a conscience well informed The first and onely good word that ever he allowed Presbyters Well yet we will not forget it if he doe not But yet he would have them to know they are not come to mount Zion till they be able to prove the chaire of a generall assembly the very throne of Christ This is a bare mysticall assertion which I understand not the sense of and he gives no reason for therefore let it passe And except they shew all the lineaments of their Government from Scripture it will fright conscience and be disclaimed as a Monster But this is more then ever the Independents did yet You know