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A54506 The dialogue betwixt Cit and Bumpkin answered in another betwixt Tom the Cheshire piper, and Captain Crackbrains dedicated to Right Worshipful the Mayor of Quinborough. E. P. 1680 (1680) Wing P17; ESTC R5521 23,355 40

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panegyrick of his wsedome To 'em Make a noise Tom as out of a Closet Capt. I do not like this eves-dropping yet I hope I have said nothing that I need care who hears however Tom the Pudding-pie-man is a good honest fellow I have wasted some pence with him Make a noise Tom. Come Gentlemen you have been in eager discourse but I did hear the subject matter of it very well Tom. I was only making some passionate observations upon a Book twice or thrice printed called Cit and Bumkin which he undertook wholly and in every part to defend Make a noise Tom. What you Captain Crackfart turn'd Advocate must Cicero pro Milone be reacted by you with a horse pox to your Captainship How long is it since I relieved you and a thin starved thing yclipped your Boy with ten peny worth of Pudding pies when you and he had lived three days upon stewed fiddle-strings I tell thee Tom Piper how this fellow came by the doughty name of Captain he was a foot Souldier in Olivers time and upon a march stole a live Pike in an Inn out of a Pale and put it into his Breeches because he saw his Comrade had done the like to a Barbel but presently his manful roars made a discovery so he was Cashiered pretended it was for his Loyalty and from that time dubb'd himself Captain But as to the discourse I tell thee Old Souldier that if he or thou or any body that wears a head God bless the King should have call'd or shall call me by the contemptible name of Cit though I be but free of the Porters Company I would and will if ever it be any mans ill luck so to do all to be pudding-pie his Calves head What Cit Capt. How I am now like to be worried betwixt these two learned men Tom Piper and Make a noise Tom the Pudding Wright Well well but though you quarrel my friend for his names of Cit and Bumkin yet Mr Truman speaks very heavenly by the same Authors directions speak against that if you dare the best of you Make a noise T. Mr. Truman speaks truly of the Papists but not all that a true Son of the Church might have said he says in answer to the Charge that the Papists Loyalty was in their own defence being in a manner necessitated to that side that it was better if so than fighting against the King and further that no man drew his sword in the opposite cause but known Separatists and that not one Separatist struck in the Kings quarrel he might have added if he had though fit that after the King was outed not one Papist ever entred into a Plot for his Restitution but the whole truth was not his business whereas the Schismaticks as he boldly enough calls some sort of men asserted the Kings Cause in the lowest Ebb and that so bravely both by outward force and other less visible endeavours that the Kings Restitution must be ascribed to them as to the second cause which made some amends for their former devitation I tell thee Crack-brain had the King had no better friends than the Papists he had never seen the English shore again Capt. But have you read on Make a noise T. Yes and find the business about the three Estates repeated over again to no purpose wherein the learned Author has with great reputation to himself proved the Snow white Cap. But what think you of his bringing in Le strange's Epistle to the History of the Plot is not that a heeler Make a noise T. Like the rest for I have not much to say about that Gentleman either pro or con for they say he is a very pretty man at small matters but those two Authors do most harmoniously agree in driving on and fixing a worse Plot upon the Non Conformists which they both are careful to improve which is by their favour a setting up of the worship of false Gods to lessen if not to destroy the worship of the true one so whilst they would alarm the Nation with this Chymera of a Plot to be found no where but in their learned Brains the true Plot will weather off or which is worse go on Cap. I think you are as hard to please as Tom Piper I had thought you had revered Mr. Strange at another rate than to speak so indifferently of him Make a noise T. Indifferently do you call it I wonder that I or any other good Subject should do so especially when it is considered who licensed Humane Reason that Book that deserved to be burnt by the common Hangman as a great Lord said some bodies else did Cap. But did not he say then in excuse that he would license an answer to it Make a noise T. It may be so but that resolves into this that he would license any thing for the Fees of it Capt. I 'le tell him what you say and then i' faith he 'l maul you in a Ballad with nows the time as well as he hath done somebody else Tom Piper Pray Gentlemen not so fast fair and softly goes far on a day Capt. But do you hear Make a noise Tom how do you like Mr. Trumans description of the duty of Subjects and Kings Make a noise T. I shall tell you my mind as to that too for I have read the Book o'r and we Pie-men are old Dog at Politiques in this communicative age Well now as to that by multitude of questions he perplexes the Cause for if he layed down for his position this truth That in no Cases whatsoever it can be lawful for a Subject to arm against his Prince there had been then no Room for a shift but he makes his Cit ask a knavish question What if a King will transgress all the Laws of God and man may not the People resume their trust The answer is in the negative but a man might have shap'd another answer as pertinent Capt. As how Make a noise T. When God gives over Kings to be wholly led by their sensual appetites and to lay aside all manner of Justice he often suffers the People to be so too for the world is rather governed by example than Precept There are many sad examples of that kind as of Don Pedro the cruel of Castile stabb'd to death by his Bastard Brother Winceslaus King of Bohemia once imprisoned and when he had by miracle recovered his Estate grew so barbarously cruel to all ranks of men that upon Citizens of Prague rose as one man against him upon which news being in the Castle he fell into a fit of an Apoplexy and died suddenly Christiern the second of Denmark who was deposed by his Unkle Frederick And of later years Sultan Ibrahim the Great Turk who was for his outragious lusts and other extravagancies deposed and strangled in the Seragilo There is a living example of that kind Sebastian of Portugal set aside and imprisoned by his Brother who now injoys
as the reward of his fact both his Brothers wife and Kingdom and yet not so much as a Sword or Pen manag'd in his behalf by these examples though it cannot be denied but it is the Subjects duty to suffer patiently and like the Theban Legion suffer themselves to be cut in pieces rather than to resist as Mr. Truman well observed yet nature in those Cases is often so strong that there is no trusting to it Tom. I perceive then that your opinion is that it is safer for Princes to keep within due moderation as to their administration than to do otherwise notwithstanding they have so much right on their sides even as to this world for if a Nation should lie under such unhappy circumstances as to have the Prince and People at difference the Divines of the Popular as well as the other would from Texts of Scripture whether misapplied or no not material offer Pillows to both parties as is well observed in an excellent Passage out of Denhams Sophy Page 44. poor Princes how are they misled Whilst they whose sacred Office is to bring Kings to obey their gods and men their King By these mysterious links to fix and tie Them to the footsteps of the Deity Even by these men Religion that should be The Curb is made the Spur to Tyrany They with their double Key of Conscience bind The Subjects and leave Kings unconfin'd While their poor Vassals sacrifice their bloods T' ambition and to avarice their Goods Blind to devotion they themselves esteem Made for themselves and all the world for them Whilst Heaven's great Law given for guide appears Just or unjust but as it wai●s on theirs Us'd but to give the Eccho to their words Power to their Wills and Edges to their Swords To varnish all their Errors and secure The ills they act and all the world endure Thus by their Arts Kings awe the World whilst they Religion as their Mistress seem●● obey Yet as their Slave command her whilst they seem To rise to Heaven they make Heaven stoop to them Nor is this all where feign'd devotion bends The highest things to serve the basest ends For if the many headed Beast hath broke Or shaken from his neck the Royal Yoke With popular rage Religion doth con●pire Flows into that and swells the Torrent higher Then Powers first Pedegree from force derives And calls to mind the old Prerogatives Of free born man and with a saucy eye Searches the heart and soul of Majesty Then to a strict and censure brings The actions errors and the end of Kings Treads on Authority and sacred Laws Yet all for God and his pretended cause Acting such things for him which he in them And which themselves in others would condemn Thus now ingag'd nor safely can retire Nor safely stand but blindly bold aspire Forcing their hopes even through despair to climb To new attempts disdan the present time Grow from disdain to threats from threats to arms Whilst they though Sons of peace still sound th' alarm Thus whether Kings or People seek extreams Still Conscience and Religion are their Theames And whatsoever change the State invades The Pulpit either forces or perswades Others may give the fewel or the fire But they the blast which makes the flame flame higher Make a noise T. I perceive by this your Poets are an extraordinary sort of men for as I have been told that was written before the late Wars and I see by this that there will never want upon the same unlucky occasion high Boyes on both sides but thou hast a plaguy memory to remember all this stuffe I wonder how thou dost it I can hardly remember the Lords Prayer Tom. Nature always supplies Fools and blind men with a special gift that way Capt. You may think there may be no harm in this Poetry but I assure you if my Cosin comes to know of it he 'l make you prove where you had it Make a noise T. That 's as easily done Captain Crackbrains as to prove your ingenious Cosin to be a Pensioner to somebody that he does not think fit to own Capt. You mean the Lords in the Tower I warrant you if you durst speak Tom. What if one did you are ne'r the better it 's no Libel neither will an Action on the Case lie for abusing Captain Crackbrains Cosin nameless But faith if you will Captain we 'l call for the other friendly pot three double Mugs of Ale within there now le ts talk in cooler terms Make a noise T. I am for peace but yet in utrumque paratus Capt. Where got you all this Latine I did not expect it neither with going to Sermons nor crying Make a noise Tom. Make a noise T. They are the remains of my schooling Capt. You are then I believe a man of Intrigue some Jesuit in disguise pray give me your opinion what 's the best way to grow rich for I am of the opinion of that Author that cried O Cives Cives quaerenda pecunia primum Virtus post nummos My Masters and Friends let us first grow rich Then virtue 'll come or vice no matter which Tom. A very learned Colloquy amongst us three Vertuosi Make a noise T. If by riches you mean preferment I 'le tell you mine opinion and illustrate it by some Examples first I do not like the Cits way of Imprisonment in order to it for that meets with so many difficulties as are not easily to be o'rcome Capt. You tell me which is not the way pray tell me which is for without better directions I 'le ne'r come to my Journies end Make a noise T. There is a way which has thriven well with a namesake of mine and many others namely to abette the Republican interest incumber the Prerogative with Magna Charta the Petition of Right and Property so that it shall be a meer empty name but be sure you be a parlish Pratlebasket upon that Subject then you 'l be taken off as my Namesake is by which he hath got to be either the third fourth or fifth part of a great Officer of State Tom. I cannot find out the interest of taking Men off that is of hiring men to personate an honest man for to be sure upon the first occasion they 'l come to themselves act the Knaves part again for they are so still in their hearts Make a noise T. You say well but it s often the luck of those Sophisters to be served so Cap. But may not an unwearied writing Books in defence of the truth do something considerable in the case as it is the circumstance of my Cousin Make a noise T. But little for his way of writing is look'd upon by sober men more to gratifie his Passion upon a Party and his itch of scribling which is demonstrable enough by his Translations than out of any noble end to his Prince and so he is his own rewarder by eating the daily dumplings it affords him Cap. You may run down my Cousin in your Ale at what rate you please here but I say and say again that the Phanaticks are more dangerous Enemies than the Papists both to the Kings Royal Person and Government Tom. I say and say again in answer to you Captain Crackbrains if there be one Phanatick in England that is not Bedlam mad that wishes any ill to the Kings Person though I doubt many may be too sawcy upon the Administration and on the contrary if there be ten Papists I 'll go to Abraham's precise number that wishes prosperity to either but in some equivocal meaning I 'll never pipe more and so Captain Crackbrains because you are a man of Quality pay the reckoning Make a noise T. A match and then I break up this famous Colloquy Tom. But I 'll tell you a piece of news before we part my Friend writes one of the weekly Books and to be sure if he hear of our Discourse he 'll claw you off in his next Make a noise T. Which of them the Popish Domestick called the true one or the Fanatique ycliped the Protestant Cap. Neither but the Loyal one Tom. That 's like a Chimney Sweeper when I lived in Delamere Forrest that cryed all white for the King for it 's a great Argument of Loyalty to insinuate to His Majesty that his People has some ill contrivements against him by which he designs to put him upon his constant Guard which can be no easie posture to any Monarch But I suppose his Method is after the rate of Poor Robin all the News he blesses us with is of his own happy contrivance in which he has an extraordinary faculty Make a noise T. I protest Tom you are a notable Fellow I did not expect any thing of this from you Tom. I have a way for it for when I exercise my Calling to please Gentlemen we sometimes divert our selves with drinking and then on course State matters or Religion are the subject of Discourse and I having a parlish memory bring all away for I have a double Title to it according to the late observation Make a noise T. As how Tom. Faith I am like the once Mayor of Ripon Bizond in Eye-sight and Simple of Understanding Make a noise T. I 'll but ask you one Question What is the reason that a strange Woman in Scripture-language should signifie an Harlot and a Strange Man in Statutable English to use the Cits Metaphor should not signifie the Marrow to it Tom. Though it do not so fully yet it does something of that nature by implication for no man deservedly enjoyes that Character that can boast of much reputation to himself But to what purpose this impertinent Sally let 's part for we shall run from one thing to another till we be by some Adam Over-doe sent to Durance Your Servant Captain Crackbrains Capt. Your Servant Sir Make a noise T. Your Servant Gentlemen FINIS Weekly Packet Vol. 2. num 39. pag 312. Paraph. of Phaed. to Hippol. by the Club. Pag. 3. Ibid. Pag. 6. Pag. 7. Pag. 10. Pag. 13. Pag. 16. * A North Countrey word for Fellow