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A34432 Carnal prudence display'd, or, The crafty contrivances of the Jesuits relating to the popish plot discovered by way of letter from Gaunt to Mr. Willmore in England. Ignatius Franciscus, Philo-presbyter. 1682 (1682) Wing C604; ESTC R22951 6,986 8

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majorem Dei Gloriam is ours The Good old Cause is yours Pray what can be meant by Good old Cause but God's good Cause and what difference is there betwixt God's Good Cause and the Glory of God since to advance God's Cause is to advance his Glory so now you see that there is no substantial difference betwixt us Another Objection of yours was That though we were Presbyterians yet we were Papist-Presbyterians and consequently as such there would necessarily be some Je ne scay quoy of that thing call'd Loyalty inherent to the Presbyterian which instead of bearing up the Cause it would sling it down and such a one you call Presbyterian in Masquerade we must confess this is notably and prudently argued you are satisfy'd then that we are Presbyterians but you are afraid that a Pope should lurk in the Belly of such Presbyters To let you see that you ought not hereafter to entertain such Fears and Jealousies of your Brethren would-be We adhere to the Pope sometimes for interest other times we oppose the Pope for interest as is clearly demonstrated in the precedent discourse so that in reality we are neither for Pope nor King Do not you do the like when you cry God bless the King and Preserve him from his Enemies when you desire that the Militia should be put into your hands to defend the sacred Person of His Majesty and the Protestant Religion as Establisht by Law I say in reality at the same time do you not use our excellent mental Reservations Restrictions and Equivocations when you intend to secure all for your selves which once compass'd the Monarchy and the establisht Religion must be destroyed as incompatible with your Principles which are for holy Common-weals So you see though you court the King and magnifie the Religion establisht you are in effect for neither Now I think I have fully answered you with an Argument ad hominem But to show the Parallel further you brand Church of England-Men with Popery and in the Fools coat of Papists in Masquerade expose them to the scorn and aversion of the Rabble We do the like calling all Anti-Jesuits who are indeed of the establisht Catholick Church Jansenists and Blackloists names as odious and suspect to our Party which we call the true Children of the Church as Heathen and Publican Do we not deterr all from taking the Oath of Allegiance without giving any one a reason for it But inter nos we hold that in some Cases a King may forfeit his Crown sometimes to the Pope when he gives us good Pensions for teaching that Doctrine Some of the Tory Papists have discovered these reasons but we deny them stoutly for all that we have more reasons yet besides these which we never yet discovered to any but to those who believed strongly and with an implicit faith that our Presbyterian Society is infallible in its Christian Principles Therefore it is for your entire satisfaction that we keep nothing hid from you We do verily and indeed also believe as a consequence from our infallible Principles That a wicked King breaking God's Holy Covenant may by holy Commonweal-men be depos'd for that the Spirit of the Lord is departed from him and that he is no more Anointed and by consequence no King Our Mariana and others have taught this Doctrine with this difference only that the Power of deposing was in the Pope and not in holy Commonweal-men but the reason was that he and the rest were great Pope-Pensioners Had they lived in our circumstances they would have asserted the same circumstantial Doctrine with us especially having laid the foundation of it in their infallible Principles We cannot now imagine what further objection you can make if so I know no reason why we should not clubb together for undoubtedly if we do we shall go a great way in a little time It may be for all that you make another Objection viz. We being such unheard-of sticklers in carrying on our own Contrivances that there may be fallings out about the chief Places in the Common-weal To rid you of that scruple how comes it to pass that you are united amongst your selves I answer because your Principles are alike for the same reason as I have already made out we must necessarily agree with you O but you may argue again That you are old standers in the Cause and have already taken great pains in laying Platforms of Government against the first day of the Golden Age and with great labours and indefatigable industry have brought things to this height as that you dare in the face of the Sun contrary to the known practices of the Land in all times bring in a Bill Ignoramus in spight of King Council and Judges nay and Lord Maior himself whatsoever and how many soever the Witnesses are and I think this no small Point to carry on the Good old Cause Verily 't is true what you say and is but what we have already prais'd you for and will for ever admire and honour you as in this being the true lights to all solid Reformation But lest you should still apprehend our Presbyterian Society by reason only of its coming in late we unanimously declare unto you That we will have no share in the Temporals of the Government but only Spirituals for you know no Government can stand where there is not establisht Religion by Law If you consent to this and admit the coupling our Presbyterian Societies I know not what Power on the Earth can resist such Principled men as we all are Pray Sir remember our hearty Services to the Ignoramus Jurors We expect your Answer to this unanimous Declaration of our Minds as soon as possible whereby we may know what to trust to We do not at all doubt but we shall have free admittance into your Clubb whereby to become one Heart one Mouth one Man to carry on The Good old Cause of God once again for his greater Honour and Glory From our Assembly at Gaunt March 1st 1682. Worthy Sir Your most hearty and truly devoted humble Servant Ignatius Franciscus Philo-Presbyter FINIS
Carnal Prudence Display'd OR THE Crafty Contrivances OF THE JESUITS Relating to the POPISH PLOT Discovered by way of LETTER from GAUNT TO Mr. Willmore IN ENGLAND Jam saturati estis jam divites facti estis sine nobis regnatis Ep. I a Paull ad Cor. c. 4. Qui Conveniunt in aliquo tertio conveniunt interse LONDON Printed for B. Shirley under St. Dunstan's Church in Fleetstreet 1682. Carnal Prudence Display'd WEE the Fathers of the Society now Convened at Gaunt having been advised of your late Proceedings thought it our Duty to express our Cordial thanks to you on that Subject we therefore desire you to believe our whole Body in Flanders as gratefully sensible of the last great service you have done our common Cause as any of our Brethren whom the Nighness of abode might have given the opportunity to prevent us in the like acknowledgment And indeed we cannot sufficiently admire and applaud the Christian constancy of those truly brave Jurors who in acquitting the Right Honorable Lord Shaftsbury have asserted the Right and Property of Englishmen as well in order to their Lives as Estates in spight of all the damnable Projections and Machinations of those Belials called Tories Oh! memorable Ignoramus Jury which well deserves Inscriptions on Monuments of everlasting Marble Now as our correspondency with you has hitherto been under the Rose so we desire that it may be still we keep all things of this Nature out of the cognizance of any of our Subs and have reason to believe that you do the like now to satisfie you we will demonstrate the possibility of setting our Horses together as you said nay it shall be made out from your own Confessions If you remember you said in your last Letter That if it could be made to appear that our Principles as well in Religion as in Matters of State did agree with yours the Business would soon be at an end To perform what I promised I shall lay before you such matter of fact concerning our Allegiance to Princes and Obedience to Prelates that if you are in your wits you must needs confess that all the difference betwixt us is de nomine and not de re FIrst then you must know that having through our indefatigable Intrigues discovered the Methods of the Romish Court we new-molded our rule so as it is now altogether agreeable to the Maxims by which they steer insomuch that they look on us as the most necessary to carry on their Designs and Contrivances In the beginning we were strangely serviceable and obedient to that degree that at length we carried all before us Being come to a height of Power and Riches we were courted by Kings and Princes into whose Cabinets when we had humbly crept in we so magnified to them the Pope's Power as well Temporal as Spiritual and the influence it gave him upon the Subjects of Christian Princes that we soon brought them on their knees and now so far prevail'd that no Catholick Prince thinks himself secure without taking some of ours for their Confessor Things now being by our unanimous endeavors brought to this pitch you must conceive we have a double game to play that is we must keep in with Pope and Princes a hard task you will say and so it is But however we have made a shift hitherto to play this game ay and ply it still To let you see this you must know that whenever there 's a Pope made of our Faction then we make it our whole business to cry him up for a Saint a learned and wise Pope to represent him to each Prince as one who espouses his the Prince's particular interest by our inducement it is suppos'd which obliges him to acknowledge his sence of the Service in glorious Encomiums of us to his Holiness by whom and the whole Court we are therefore judg'd the fittest Spiritual Directors for Princes in the World and consequently the main Pillars of the Church By this means as our Employs are twofold so are our Pensions double for Janus-like we have one face towards the Prince and another regarding the Pope Sirs believe me you cannot imagine in such a game as this is well play'd how many occasions there are to bring grist to our Mill. Now on the other side if it fall out that a Pope be chosen who though a holy and learned Man yet Si non pro nobis contra nos est then what do we do why we whisper in the ears of our Penitents and especially of the Ladies that 't is much to be fear'd that holy Father the Pope is too great a favourer of Jansenists and Blackloists and such-like Hetrodox men and how they ought to pray all such may be removed from his Holiness lest being led away by these Wolves in Sheeps-skins the Orthodox meaning our selves mought be forgot and Catholicity left in a tottering condition Now let the prejudice of Pope Bishops and Clergy be never so great against us all the devout Sex both Nuns devoted Women and Lay-women will buoy up our sanctity against them all and for this intent we have particular Prayers Fastings Meditations and Disciplines Sirs in good truth you cannot imagine how devout the Women are at all this and how they out-do even our selves in the performance of it By this means many Proselytes are got and our fame is spread abroad in such a nature that in some Cities we Monopolize all the Faithful except only the tagragg folks or rabble who if they are so impudent to approach our Confession seats we send them back with a powder to their Parish Churches and if they argue the case we tell them it is their Christian Duty but after all this if some one of them be found so wise as to distinguish then we admit him rather than he should instruct the Rabble against us and truly it is a great matter for a Community whose aim is at governing the whole to have the Rabble on their side especially when ad majorem Dei Gloriam it will be necessary for the carrying on the Cause to lay any one aside on point of good Name or Life according to the gravity of the Sin committed against the said Community besides this 't is very advantagious to have their good word were it only upon the account of the respect paid us by Children old Women in asking our Blessings and in putting off their Hats and such like honorary worship paid to our Reverences all this does undoubtedly distinguish us from all other Priests or Religious who though they may have the simplicity of the Dove yet they fall short of us in the prudence of the Serpent because they are so silly as not to know how to reconcile them the reason is because they understand Religion but not Government and consequently they are ignorant how sometimes Prudentia carnis is meant by Prudentia serpentis or that they are identified But after this If the Pope be such an one