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A03618 An answer vnto my lord of wynthesters [sic] booke intytlyd a detection of the deuyls sophistrye wherwith he robith the vnlernyd people of the trew byleef in the moost blessyd sacrament of the aulter made by Johann Hoper. Hooper, John, d. 1555. 1547 (1547) STC 13741; ESTC S104200 95,800 166

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time as ye may se when ye confer there doctrine unto the doctrine of the Aposteles The malice of man could not utterly destroye the truith in our fathers time nomore shall it do in oure time Christ hathe prayed for his churche and his prayer is hard Ioan. 17. it shall be upon the erth till he cum to iudgment Matt. ult thowgh allwayes afflictid and persequutid by souch as contemne boothe god and hit word But it shall suffice the seruaunt to be as his master was we reade how he entryd with many afflictions so must euery man that wilbe sauid Ebre 11. Rom. ● the churche of Christ may welbe comparid unto daniell setting Among the lyons destitute of all humayne ayede and defense deliuer it out of the caue yet shall it wander upon the●th as à contemptible thing of no Estimacion not knowing where to rest here ●ed pacience must suffre this opprobrie and abiection and when she can not be receauid as she is worthy into the palyce of the ryche she must be cōtent to lodge in the stable with Christ among the brute bestes Yet god Manie times dooth resuscitat of his great Mercy diuerse princes and godly mindyd kynges for the defense of the church as he dyd Cyrus and Constantinus with many other And in my dayes it pleacid god to moue the hart of the moost noble and uictorious prince Henrye theight of à blessid memorie to deliuer his subiectes ffrom the Tyrannie of the wyckid Antechrist the byshope of Rome with many other godlye and diuine actes which browght the light of godes worde into manie hartes Beseching the eternall and lyuing god That this oure moost gracious and uertewes Souerayne lord Kyng Edward is successor may godly performe the thing that is yet to be desirid and leaue nomore doctrine in the churche of inglond nor other booke to instruct his subiectes with all Then the moost godly yong prince Iosijahu leste in the land of Iuda an Hierusalem His moost noble actes be wroten 4. Reg. 23. heremouid all false doctrine and Idolatrie out of the churche and restoryd the booke of the lawe into the temple bound himselfe and all his subiectes to honor and obey god only as that booke tawght Manasses for the time of many yers conspirid nothing but the abolycion and destruction of godes word killid the prophetes of god and many other godly persones in that time of persequuciō some godd man hid in the temple an Exampler of godes law which by deuine operacion was found in the raygne of Iosijahu Agod act of him that hyd the booke and à godly act of the king to bind his subiectes unto that booke He that had sawght all te churches in inglond before 16. yeres shuld not haue found one bible but in euery church souch abhominacion and Idolatrie as the like was not sith the time of Iosijahu euery where Idoles with all abhominacion and as I perceaue by à frindes letter of mine of late in à Certayne churche in Inglond was an inquisicion made for the bible by the kynges maiestes officers that in stede of the bible found the leffte arme of one of those chartechouse Monkes that died in the defense of the byshope of Rome Reuerently hyd in the hygh aulter of the church with à wryting conteyning the day and cause of his deathe Doutles à uery sacrament and opyn signe that they be hypocrites and desemblers and not perswadyd of the truith in there hartes And I trust to hyre that the Kynges maiestie neuer put his officers to great payne to bring them to Tiburn But put them to death in the churche upon the same aulter wherin this relique was hyd and burnt there the bones of the treterous ydolatraes with the relique as Iosijahu did all the false pristes 4. Reg. 23. And the doyng therof shuld not haue suspendid the churche at all but haue byn à better blissing therof then all the blissins of the byshopes of the worold for god louithe those that be zealous for his glorie But what the cause shuld be now that the littell ydoles be cast out of the churche thowgh the moder of them all be there yet and yet people be ydolatres It is easi to be perceauid The wannt of the word of god diligently preachid Rede the 33● chapiter of the 2. bok of Paralip Where as the good king Manasses a●ter his captiue in Babylon was returnid ffrom his wyckid lieffe and restoryd unto his Kyngdom with great diligence he destroyd souch Idolatrie as be fore he stablyshid in his Kyngdom ouer trew all the aulters of Idoles with great diligens How be it in the 55. yere of his Reygne he departid out of his mortall lieffe before he could conueniently restore the booke of the lawe and the trew word of god unto the people so that not withe stonding the kynges godly pretence and destroing all ●dolles Populus immolabat in excelso domino deo suo 2. Paralipp 33. Amani●est Argument that it sufficith not to remoue thoccacion ofyle but there must be gyuen occacion of godd● when ydoles be cast out of the churche the word of god solye and only must be browght into the church and so preachid unto the people that there false conceuid opinion may be taken out of there hartes and taugh te to abhorre ydolatry by knolege or else will they return agayne to there supersticion as many times as they haue occacion yeue them The trew word and souch as can preach it treuly unto then them will they swere in there conscience neuer to serue other then the lyuing god of heauen as ye may se 4. Reg. 23. by kyng Ios●●ahu and his subiectes Stans rex iuxta columnam percussit foedus coram domino quod ambularent post dominū obseruarent praecepta eius testimonia eius atque statuta eius toto corde atque tota anima ●t exequerentur u●r ba soederis huius qu● scripta erantin libro illo Staba●quecunctus populus consenciens soederi illi When they were perswa did by the word of god that ydolatrye was naught it was no nede to bid them beware of ydolatrie in the time of Manasse graunt father unto this uertewes Kyng Ios●●ahu it was no meruell thowghe the people leste not there Idolatrie because the kyng being preuen tid by death could not with the taking awaye of the uice plant uertew as he would haue don doutles But the mercifull lord ●ouche sauid to performe this old kynges godly intencion by the yong uertewes and holy seruaunt of god that was cronid kyng in the vii● yere of his ayge Whois exemple I dout not but that our moost gracious Kyng will ffolow Hauing so godly agouernoure and uertewes consolers whois yeys cannot be darid with these manifest and open abhominacions To haue à god of bread or the holy and moost blyssyd supper of the lordes deathe thus abusid There is one no table thing tobe markid in this yong kyng losiahu When that Hilki●ahu
Iourney in the forth place of this commune wealth was Moses apoyntid as supreme head and prince next unto god in the fight place was appoyntyd the pristes then the princes inferiour and capitaynes Then the people then all thynges necessarys to mayntayne this commune wealth whetherit were in tyme of peace or tyme of warre Now he that consyderith the face of this cōmune wealth May ●e many notable thinges and ●pecially for my purpose on which shall proue that princes susteyne wrong by ●ouch bishopes as be within there realmes Thowgh that Aron and his sones with the rest of the pristes had the ministery of te church committ●d unto them yet were they neuer so bold to make ony law for the people conserning consciens or to bring ony ceremony into the church without the iudgment and knolege of godes word and Moses the prince As it may be well seyne by souch as could not celebrat Pesah in the tyme apoyntid because of certayne impedimentes re●ersid Nu. 9. this cause of religion was not browght unto the byshope and pristes to be definid But unto Moses who counselyd the lord and there upon wysid his subiectes what was to be don in souch acase Rede the place This declarith that no generall councell no prouinciall as●emble no byshopes of ony Realme or prouince may charge the subiectes therof with ony law or ceremony otherwice then the prince of the Land by the word of god can yeue accompt to be godd and godly For the people ar committid unto the prince to susteyne the right of them all and not only to defend there bodis but also there soules As it may be seen by the cōplaynt of Moses unto god Nu. 11. Curafflixisti seruum tuum quare non inueni gratiam in oculis tuis ut poneres onus uniuersi populi huius super me c. he was so care full that no law was among then But that he was able to assure euery of his subiectes that god was thauctor therof Now if we consider the commune wealth of Christes church in oure dayes is there ony prince that can warrant all the lawes of the church to be good and that god is the auctor therof No god knowith they can not do it And right well iam assuryd souch as make the princes belyue they ar good cannot Bringforth and mak good thauctor except the say the deuyll auctor of all yle is thauctor Now to remoue this petyfull and m●serable ruyne of the churche let all princes for the loue of god and for the restoring of there awne princely honor Take Moses and the Prophetes the Euangelistes and the Aposteles to iudge whether the yoke of there subiectes be tollera ble or not if it be not of gracious petye to remoue it and lik aprince warrant them from all other mennys subiection and lawes and let not abyshope be check mate and hayle felow wel● met if the prince rule the body the byshope to sit in the quere an rule the soule as in deade there is more bishopes Decrees lawes and Statutes in the church for the soule then ciuile lawes in ony Realme for the body Where as euery commune whealth owght to haue but too goueruers God and the prince thone to make a law for the soule thother for the body all the kynges officers to be minister● of the lawe made to the conseruacion of the commune wealthe and the byshopes to be ministers in techurch of the law that is prescribid by god as all iustice Meres Shereues constables and bayliffes Be ministers of the law made unto them to gouern the commune whealth So must the byshopes Pristes and all other preachers be ministers of Christ and gouerne the people in there uocation according unto the law prescribid by god As Paule willid the people to iudge of hym and of his companyous 1. Corint 4. Sic nos estimet homo ut ministros Christi dispensatores mysteriorum dei quod superest autem i●lud requiritur in dispensatoribus ut fid us ali quis reperiatur There is no more requirid of the byshope but that he be d●ligent and faythfull in thexecution of godes worde It is not requirid that he shuld make ony lawe for the people But to preache godes law with all diligens and study As they do must negligētly The yere last past upon certayne occacious at my beyng in Inglond for lack of expedicion of myne affayrs I was compellyd to remayne in A towne longer then I would hauing communicacion with certayne of the citicus of many maters sowgh of my part only to haue occacion to healpe there poure consciens from the snare of ignorancy When I perceauyd I had optaynid there willing audiens Idemanudyd of them when there byshope for of the towne the byshope hathe his name prechyd among them And the contentes of his sermones They told me that he neuer preachyd sermon in the towne Iaskyd what deputes he had in the towne apayntid to preach they sayde none And Ibelyue it the better for aslong as I was in that towne there was neuer sermon ●amentyd the people for I sound a great many apt and redy by inspiracion of godes sprit to hyre the truith if they had à preacher For at one talke and communicacion as mouche as they could comprehend they belyuid the rest they stode in dout of Then I willid them diligently to lern the gospell to auaynce it in word and to set it forte with thexāple of all honest liefe And told thē that there were too generall rules to lern and know god by the first by his worde wherby oure fathers before thowsandes of yers knew hym The second was to know god by his dere sonne openid and declarid in Hierusalem unto the worold and that god can nor will beknowen none other wais then by his word and by h●s sonne Christ Iesus Ioan. 10. Here in this towne the byshope of the dioces from the tyme that he was appoyntid by the Kynges maiestatie unto that moost paynfull office he preachid nether god nether the deuill But let his floke wander as shepe without à sheperd They say yet all that there diaeceses be well instructid and gouernyd and they do according unto there ●ffices For south as mouche there diligens is correspondent and there factes agreyng with there name for they ar callyd diaecesani Of diaeceo that signifith to gouern and to defend As Absolom factes agreyde with his name His name signifieth the peace and tranquillite of his father But his factes was the affliction of his father and bauyshyd him out of his realme 2. Samuelis 17. so dooth the byshopes gouern the churches committyd unto there charges and defend tem from false doctrine They be in structyd in the pater noster The crede and the cōmaundementz and hath the sacramētes ministrid unto them would to god aryght what all this It is noti nowgh the may haue all these thinges and yet nothing the