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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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of_o parent_n murderer_n ince_n 〈…〉_o vous_fw-fr person_n remover_n of_o their_o neighbour_n mark_n oppressor_n of_o the_o fatherless_a and_o stranger_a etc._n etc._n and_o general_o against_o all_o transgressor_n of_o the_o law_n unto_o who_o the_o curse_n of_o eternal_a damnation_n be_v threaten_v ●n_o the_o same_o word_n '_o that_o it_o be_v to_o the_o rest_n mark_v also_o where_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o galath_n 3._o by_o this_o curse_n prove_v all_o they_o that_o be_v under_o the_o law_n to_o be_v subiect●_n unto_o this_o curse_n how_o the_o serpent_n deny_v this_o curse_n to_o be_v the_o assurance_n of_o eternal_a death_n make_v the_o case_n of_o they_o to_o be_v nothing_o so_o dangerous_a but_o continue_v under_o the_o law_n they_o may_v avoid_v eternal_a death_n and_o where_o he_o say_v every_o one_o in_o the_o epistle_n be_v not_o mean_v of_o christian_n i_o will_v know_v of_o he_o whether_o the_o galathian_o to_o who_o saint_n paul_n write_v be_v not_o christian_n but_o yet_o seduce_v by_o false_a apostle_n to_o take_v upon_o they_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o law_n which_o as_o it_o be_v impossible_a so_o it_o will_v bring_v they_o from_o the_o blessing_n of_o christ_n unto_o the_o curse_n of_o god_n that_o true_a christian_n be_v discharge_v of_o this_o curse_n it_o be_v by_o the_o only_a merit_n of_o christ_n satisfaction_n and_o not_o that_o the_o sin_n themselves_o deserve_v not_o everlasting_a death_n though_o they_o b●●_n never_o so_o small_a of_o their_o own_o nature_n by_o the_o sentence_n of_o god_n curse_n which_o be_v a_o just_a reward_n for_o transgression_n heb._n 2._o the_o two_o other_o place_n that_o i_o cite_v for_o this_o purpose_n the_o soul_n that_o sin_v shall_v die_v ezech._n 18._o and_o the_o reward_n of_o sin_n be_v death_n rom._n 6._o he_o will_v expound_v by_o the_o say_n of_o saint_n james_n chapt._n 1._o sin_n when_o it_o be_v consummate_v gender_v death_n as_o though_o this_o place_n of_o s._n james_n deny_v sin_n not_o bring_v into_o act_n to_o deserve_v death_n because_o show_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o man_n destruction_n i●_n in_o themselves_o from_o the_o first_o concupiscence_n to_o the_o last_o and_o gross_a act_n he_o conclude_v that_o those_o gross_a act_n bring_v a_o man_n into_o eternal_a death_n our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v this_o be_v condemnation_n that_o light_n be_v come_v into_o the_o world_n and_o man_n have_v love_v darkness_n rather_o than_o light_v be_v it_o not_o good_a logic_n and_o divinity_n also_o of_o this_o place_n to_o conclude_v that_o condemnation_n pertain_v not_o to_o man_n but_o where_o the_o light_n offer_v be_v refuse_v or_o that_o if_o christ_n have_v not_o come_v none_o have_v be_v condemn_v john_n 3._o and_o likewise_o yea_o much_o rather_o where_o christ_n say_v if_o i_o have_v not_o come_v and_o speak_v unto_o they_o they_o shall_v not_o have_v have_v sin_n john_n 15._o be_v the_o obstinate_a jew_n clear_v of_o sin_n by_o bristowe_v judgement_n before_o christ_n come_v but_o let_v we_o examine_v his_o reason_n it_o be_v sin_n say_v he_o as_o soon_o as_o it_o be_v gendr_v but_o it_o gender_v not_o death_n so_o so_o one_o as_o it_o be_v gendr_v therefore_o some_o sin_n there_o be_v that_o gender_v notd_n eath_n the_o minor_a be_v false_a for_o saint_n james_n say_v that_o sin_n consummate_v gender_v death_n do_v not_o say_v that_o sin_n gender_v not_o death_n so_o soon_o as_o it_o be_v gendr_v but_o behold_v yet_o his_o impudent_a wrest_n of_o the_o scripture_n he_o add_v also_o a_o exception_n unto_o sin_n consummate_v that_o not_o every_o sin_n consummate_a gender_v death_n except_o the_o matter_n be_v of_o weight_n according_o for_o else_o that_o the_o lightness_n of_o the_o matter_n as_o a_o idle_a word_n bring_v not_o death_n he_o sufficient_o signify_v in_o say_v that_o in_o a_o weighty_a matter_n the_o lightness_n or_o imperfection_n of_o consent_n do_v it_o not_o these_o be_v his_o word_n by_o which_o you_o may_v see_v that_o without_o all_o shame_n he_o impute_v such_o say_n to_o saint_n james_n as_o he_o can_v find_v never_o a_o word_n in_o hi●_n sound_o like_o such_o 〈◊〉_d say_v but_o this_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o heretic_n which_o learn_v not_o all_o truth_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n to_o bring_v their_o opinion_n to_o the_o scripture_n and_o to_o enforce_v the_o word_n thereof_o against_o all_o equity_n to_o signify_v and_o say_v whatsoever_o it_o please_v they_o now_o that_o saint_n james_n hold_v that_o every_o sin_n deserve_v death_n i_o will_v prove_v out_o of_o his_o own_o say_n by_o this_o argument_n whosoever_o be_v guilty_a of_o all_o the_o law_n and_o commandment_n deserve_v eternal_a death_n whosoever_o offend_v in_o one_o be_v guilty_a of_o all_o therefore_o whosoever_o offend_v in_o one_o deserve_v eternal_a death_n the_o mayor_n i_o trust_v you_o will_v grant_v the_o minor_a be_v saint_n james_n cap._n 2._o whosoever_o shall_v keep_v the_o whole_a law_n and_o offend_v but_o in_o one_o point_n he_o be_v guilty_a of_o all_o then_o see_v every_o sin_n be_v a_o breach_n of_o god_n law_n as_o saint_n john_n affirm_v john_n 3._o not_o only_o great_a sin_n but_o also_o small_a sin_n wherein_o soever_o man_n offend_v against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n deserve_v eternal_a death_n which_o can_v be_v avoid_v but_o by_o remission_n for_o christ_n sake_n for_o be_v the_o sin_n never_o so_o small_a it_o be_v commit_v against_o god_n the_o author_n of_o the_o law_n who_o thereby_o have_v forbid_v all_o sin_n which_o reason_n the_o apostle_n use_v to_o prove_v that_o he_o which_o offend_v in_o one_o be_v guilty_a of_o all_o and_o therefore_o the_o text_n by_o i_o allege_v do_v sufficient_o prove_v that_o all_o sin_n of_o their_o own_o nature_n be_v mortal_a whether_o after_o sin_n remit_v pain_n bristol_n may_v remain_v that_o god_n remit_v the_o punishment_n with_o the_o fault_n in_o respect_n whereof_o the_o punishment_n be_v due_a i_o prove_v by_o fulke_n ezek._n 18._o &_o 33._o where_o the_o lord_n promise_v to_o put_v away_o the_o remembrance_n of_o a_o sinner_n offence_n that_o true_o turn_v unto_o he_o bring_v forth_o the_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n bristol_n say_v this_o take_v not_o place_n before_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n whereby_o it_o will_v ensue_v that_o to_o man_n can_v have_v comfort_n of_o his_o sin_n forgive_v in_o this_o life_n but_o he_o oppose_v the_o say_n of_o the_o prophet_n psal_n 24._o &_o 78._o lord_n remember_v not_o the_o sin_n of_o my_o youth_n and_o lord_n remember_v not_o our_o old_a sin_n which_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o penitent_a to_o obtain_v forgiveness_n of_o their_o sin_n which_o once_o obtain_v they_o say_v the_o lord_n have_v remove_v our_o sin_n from_o we_o as_o far_o as_o the_o east_n be_v from_o the_o west_n psalm_n 102._o that_o may_v be_v say_v bristol_n in_o respect_n that_o they_o be_v remove_v from_o eternal_a damnation_n although_o they_o have_v yet_o to_o abide_v never_o so_o much_o temporal_a 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of_o our_o 〈…〉_o nnes_n in_o baptism_n but_o we_o be_v save_v by_o baptism_n as_o we_o ●re_n enfeoff_v by_o a_o deed_n that_o be_v seal_v that_o be_v assure_v of_o valuation_n as_o abraham_n receive_v circumcision_n the_o seal_n ●f_o the_o righteousness_n which_o he_o have_v by_o faith_n before_o he_o be_v circumcise_v ro._n 4._o and_o even_o so_o he_o cleanse_v his_o church_n by_o ●he_n laver_v of_o water_n not_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o work_n of_o baptism_n but_o in_o that_o he_o give_v himself_o for_o it_o that_o he_o may_v sanctify_v it_o eph._n 5._o after_o the_o same_o manner_n do_v baptism_n save_o us._n 1._o pet._n 3._o not_o the_o put_n off_o of_o the_o filth_n of_o the_o flesh_n ●ut_v the_o interrogation_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n before_o god_n through_o the_o resurrection_n of_o jesus_n christ_n which_o presuppo●eth_v his_o death_n for_o satisfaction_n of_o our_o sin_n as_o his_o resurrection_n be_v the_o special_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n last_o of_o ●ll_a say_v bristol_n he_o have_v make_v we_o king_n &_o priest_n to_o god_n apo._n 1._o if_o spiritual_a priest_n ergo_fw-la to_o offer_v up_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n as_o of_o 〈…〉_o ur_fw-la mortification_n rom._n 12._o our_o alm_n deed_n heb._n 13._o both_o for_o our_o twne_a sin_n &_o for_o the_o sin_n of_o other_o here_o in_o the_o last_o point_n ●he_v quotation_n of_o scripture_n so_o plentiful_a before_o fail_v but_o we_o shall_v have_v reason_n confirm_v by_o scripture_n because_o the_o external_a priest_n be_v ordain_v to_o offer_v external_a sacrifice_n for_o sin_n ●oth_v for_o himself_o &_o for_o the_o people_n heb._n 5._o but_o this_o cause_n be_v many_o way_n avoid_v for_o we_o be_v priest_n to_o offer_v up_o the_o on●y_fw-fr sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n &_o not_o of_o propitiation_n for_o sin_n which_o can_v be_v without_o shed_v of_o blood_n heb._n 9_o second_o although_o we_o be_v all_o make_v priest_n yet_o we_o be_v not_o make_v high_a priest_n of_o which_o the_o 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etc._n etc._n a_o sacrament_n of_o this_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o some_o place_n every_o day_n in_o some_o place_n by_o certain_a distance_n of_o day_n be_v prepare_v in_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o from_o the_o lord_n table_n be_v receive_v of_o some_o to_o life_n of_o some_o to_o destruction_n but_o the_o thing_n itself_o whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n be_v receive_v of_o every_o man_n to_o life_n of_o none_o to_o destruction_n whosoever_o shall_v be_v partaker_n of_o it_o and_o because_o saunder_n say_v the_o maintenance_n of_o life_n depend_v ordinary_o upon_o the_o eucharist_n alone_o the_o same_o augustine_n say_v to_o the_o contrary_a hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la manducare_fw-la illam_fw-la escam_fw-la &_o illum_fw-la bibere_fw-la potum_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la manere_fw-la &_o illum_fw-la manentem_fw-la in_o se_fw-la habere_fw-la ac_fw-la per_fw-la hoc_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la manet_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la &_o in_o quo_fw-la non_fw-la manet_fw-la christus_fw-la pro●ul_fw-la dubio_fw-la nec_fw-la manducat_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la carnem_fw-la eius_fw-la nec_fw-la bibit_fw-la eius_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la licet_fw-la carnaliter_fw-la &_o visibiliter_fw-la premat_fw-la dentibus_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la magis_fw-la tantae_fw-la rei_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la ad_fw-la iudi●itan_fw-mi sibi_fw-la manducat_fw-la &_o bibit_fw-la for_o this_o it_o be_v to_o eat_v that_o meat_n and_o to_o drink_v that_o drink_n to_o abide_v in_o christ_n and_o to_o have_v he_o abide_v in_o us._n and_o by_o this_o he_o which_o abide_v not_o in_o christ_n &_o in_o who_o christ_n do_v not_o abide_v out_o of_o all_o doubt_n neither_o do_v he_o eat_v spiritual_o his_o flesh_n not_o drink_v his_o blood_n although_o carnal_o and_o visible_o he_o press_v with_o his_o tooth_n the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o rather_o he_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o sacrament_n of_o so_o great_a a_o thing_n unto_o his_o own_o damnation_n here_o augustine_n oppose_v the_o eat_n of_o christ_n flesh_n spiritual_o with_o eat_v the_o sacrament_n thereof_o carnal_o whereby_o he_o show_v that_o christ_n flesh_n be_v not_o eat_v but_o spiritual_o and_o effectual_o although_o the_o sacrament_n thereof_o be_v eat_v carnal_o to_o destruction_n and_o by_o this_o you_o may_v see_v how_o well_o red_a saunder_n be_v in_o augustine_n which_o profess_v that_o in_o his_o work_n he_o never_o see_v one_o syllable_n why_o to_o think_v that_o he_o will_v the_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o sixth_o of_o s._n john_n to_o belong_v only_o to_o spiritual_a eat_n when_o augustine_n say_v express_o this_o be_v to_o eat_v that_o meat_n to_o eat_v spiritual_o to_o have_v christ_n abide_v in_o we_o etc._n etc._n but_o that_o same_o augustine_n de_fw-fr peccat_fw-la merit_n lib_n 1._o cap._n 20._o say_v dominum_fw-la audiamus_fw-la inqu●m_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la hoc_fw-la de_fw-la sacramento_n lavacri_fw-la dicentem_fw-la sed_fw-la de_fw-fr sacramento_n sanctae_fw-la mensae_fw-la suae_fw-la quò_fw-la nemo_fw-la ritè_fw-la nisi_fw-la baptiza●us_fw-la accedit_fw-la nisi_fw-la manducaveritis_fw-la carnem_fw-la meam_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v we_o hear_v our_o lord_n i_o say_v not_o say_v in_o deed_n this_o of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n but_o of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o his_o holy_a table_n whither_o no_o man_n come_v well_o unless_o he_o be_v baptize_v except_o you_o eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o drink_v my_o blood_n you_o shall_v not_o have_v life_n in_o you_o etc._n etc._n here_o say_v saunder_n it_o be_v plain_a by_o augustine_n judgement_n that_o christ_n in_o that_o chapter_n speak_v not_o of_o baptism_n and_o that_o he_o speak_v of_o his_o supper_n i_o answer_v augustin_n write_v against_o the_o pelagian_n which_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v necessary_a for_o infant_n as_o for_o they_o that_o have_v no_o original_a nor_o 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〈…〉_o oud_a of_o christ_n and_o yet_o no_o necessity_n of_o real_a presence_n 〈…〉_o ereby_o enforce_v last_o of_o all_o chrysostome_n be_v cite_v in_o 1._o cor._n hom._n 28._o 〈…〉_o at_o the_o receiver_n need_v to_o consider_v nothing_o else_o but_o 〈…〉_o ho_o be_v set_v forth_o and_o the_o greatness_n of_o the_o thing_n set_v 〈…〉_o rth_o therefore_o say_v saunder_n it_o be_v not_o bread_n and_o 〈…〉_o ine_z that_o be_v set_v forth_o but_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n 〈◊〉_d answer_n the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v set_v forth_o by_o 〈…〉_o e_o visible_a creature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n neither_o do_v 〈…〉_o hrysostome_n otherwise_o teach_v in_o all_o his_o write_n although_o entreat_v of_o so_o high_a a_o mystery_n he_o speak_v many_o time_n figurative_o and_o hyperbollical_o as_o hom._n 6._o he_o say_v the_o church_n in_o which_o the_o sacrament_n be_v minister_v be_v the_o place_n of_o angel_n the_o place_n of_o archangel_n the_o palace_n of_o heaven_n heaven_n itself_o no_o &_o hîc_fw-la 〈…〉_o oelum_fw-la dubitas_fw-la mensam_fw-la istam_fw-la vide_fw-la cvius_fw-la gratia_fw-la constituta_fw-la sit_fw-la &_o quapropter_fw-la for_o do_v thou_o doubt_v that_o heaven_n be_v here_o behold_v this_o table_n for_o who_o cause_n and_o wherefore_o it_o be_v set_v cap._n xi_o no_o figure_n which_o be_v not_o in_o substance_n christ_n body_n can_v make_v saunder_n any_o man_n by_o eat_v it_o negligent_o guilty_a of_o christ_n natural_a body_n saunder_n confess_v that_o when_o a_o man_n by_o wilful_a contempt_n fulke_n do_v break_v or_o defile_v the_o king_n image_n it_o be_v repute_v all_o one_o as_o if_o he_o have_v strike_v the_o prince_n himself_o not_o because_o the_o deed_n be_v one_o but_o because_o his_o will_n be_v utter_v no_o less_o in_o abuse_v the_o sign_n then_o if_o he_o have_v injurious_o touch_v the_o prince_n himself_o but_o he_o say_v this_o similitude_n be_v not_o like_a because_o saint_n paul_n make_v his_o argument_n rather_o upon_o the_o real_a fact_n itself_o then_o upon_o the_o will_n or_o mind_n of_o the_o doer_n i_o answer_v there_o be_v no_o word_n in_o saint_n paul_n to_o prove_v that_o he_o make_v his_o argument_n upon_o the_o real_a fact_n which_o be_v eat_v and_o drink_v but_o upon_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o which_o be_v with_o a_o will_n and_o mind_n not_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n second_o saunder_n object_v that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v not_o of_o wilful_a contempt_n but_o of_o negligent_a do_v i_o answer_v the_o argument_n hold_v as_o well_o or_o neglect_v as_o of_o contemn_v that_o which_z ch_z 〈…〉_o command_v to_o be_v regard_v although_o it_o be_v a_o great_a fault_n to_o contemn_v then_o to_o neglect_v secondary_o say_v saunder_n they_o that_o say_v the_o sign_n image_n or_o figure_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v abuse_v must_v show_v wherein_o that_o figure_n do_v consist_v and_o then_o he_o make_v a_o metaphysical_a discourse_n of_o figure_n and_o image_n external_a &_o 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