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A83952	Englands condition considered, and bewailed. Wherein, the obstructions of peace, and the wayes essayed to effect it are rightly stated, and argued, between the Parliament, and the Scots Commissioners. With many observations on their late papers, concerning the foure bils, and propositions sent to the King. Imprimatur, Gilb. Mabbot.		1648 (1648)	Wing E2954; Thomason E423_6; ESTC R201918	16,879	20

former Declarations of the Parliament but what may be for the good of Scotland properly and as in its own constitution is one thing and what for England is another I doubt whether a peace grounded only on such things as are contained in the generall Treaty will serve for all the particulars we need have granted for our own Kingdome such a peace must be procured as will confirm our union with them and incourage our friends discountenance our enemies that may unite us at home and 〈◊〉 others abroad Now what way is most sutable to such an end is the question Let us take first into consideration the personall treaty which our Brethren are such sticklers for how like it is to produce such a peace First Consider the probable good that will come out of such a treaty in reference to this end The Parliament have sent Propositions which they have thought fit for the future good and security of the Kingdome without the granting which we can neither be happy nor hopefull they have altered some of them and qualified them more to the sense of the King rather then Kingdom that it might take better with him a long time he hath had to consider of them some he is willing to grant which are lesse materiall others he refuseth his consent to as being against his honour we are sure for our good the Parliament cannot but still insist on the substance of the Propositions they must be the matter of the treaty Now if his Majesty after so long time of consideration cannot consent to our demands how can we believe he will when he shall treat in person when the same things are urged and stuck unto for either the Parliament must treat only on what the King shall propound or else frame new Propositions of a different sense not so good for the Kingdome or else a personall treaty will be no more then a formallity or complement which yet may be hazzardous to us to speake truth the King can write plainer then speake and if we cannot have his hand and seale how can we expect his heart Secondly Neither is it honourable for the Parliament after so long waiting for his Majesties consent now to admit his person with freedom and honour to a personall treaty wherein they must be fain to retract all their former Propositions or have the same negative answer to the most materiall concernments of their priviledges and our liberty they have made too many sad retreats already to their own dishonour and the Kingdoms disadvantage It s our unhappinesse that his Majesty hath put himself in such a capacity as he is yet to be looked on under the notion of enmity and whereas the Scots urge the Parliaments own Declarations they must consider times and seasons can the Parliament in honour treat on equall tearms now as when the King had an Army to ballance their power It was the utmost the King desired to come to a personall treaty when he had his greatest strength and doubtlesse he knew his own ends then as now But it will be objected can any way be more honourable then to treat personally with the King I answer that is most Honourable to the Parliament which holds them to their first principles of justice and liberty and keeps up their resolutions for the good of the Kingdome and the personall treaty will not contribute much to this however if it be honourable touching Ceremony we must have it firme in regard of security which is the Third thing to be considered seriously How safe it may be though the Commissioners seem to make it out of Question they must give us leave to feare it especially when so many heart-burnings are already among us and fire balls ready for 〈◊〉 are 〈◊〉 up and down City and Countrey It is a sad condition we are brought in that what his Majesty thinkes honourable for his person is not safe for us How can we thinke to gaine any thing by a personall treaty or have security of any good by it seeing he refuseth to take the Covenant and here I wonder our Brethren can dispence with their Cause to trust the Kings person in such a Treaty when he refuseth and protesteth against the Covenant they highly charge the Parliament for that they left it out in the Propositions and yet our Brethren can willingly let it out of the personall Treaty The truth is they would gladly have his person with us for they know they can never have him further off them they 〈◊〉 go● what they can of the Parliament how they would try what they can get from the King But how safe it may be for us in these unsetled times vvhen most are discontented and seeme to be taken vvith any thing vvhich is nevv and seems but to speak of peace though it be in its remote principles at never so great a distance from it How safe I say let our brethren judge We have vvarping enough already the presence of a fevv apprentises hath made us retract Ordinances hovv much more the presence of the King looking smilingly for his ovvn advantages vvhat if the King should come in person to Treat and He and the Parliament should not agree they standing to their just and reasonable demands in the Propositions and the King vvithdravv his consent vvhat vvill follovv in regard of hazard and danger he being brought so nigh us before he hath given any security to us of our Liberties we know Kings are strange creaturs can carry that in their countenance which they never had in their hearts and the influences painted rayes of Majesty on Subjects may work strange things which may be strange indeed unto us His Majestie hath had a great share in the ruine of the Kingdome he must be content to share in the misery and abate something of his honour to make up our losses we should joy in his Person if we had his heart without which the other will doe us litle good the Kings honour lies in granting the just desires of his Subjects in Parliament and if he looks to his honour abstractively we must to our safety We have little cause to put our necks under his Majesties feet and lye at his mercy Besides neither can His Majesty come alone without his traine I mean those Incendiaries which have been actors of this Designe against the Kingdom those he calls friends which the Parliament calls Delinquents And I wish as his Person hath been ingaged with them in a bloody War so his honour be not left with them It s doubted He hath wrapt up his interests too much with theirs and cannot honourably come himselfe without good quarter for them However he will have an eye to them as his Favorites and how safe we can thinke our selves when such shall be about His Majesty let our Brethren of Scotland judge That Peace can only be Happy which is suited to the first Principles and Answers the ends of this War which was

ENGLANDS CONDITION CONSIDERED AND BEWAILED WHEREIN The obstructions of Peace and the wayes essayed to effect it are rightly stated and argued between the Parliament and the Scots COMMISSIONERS WITH Many observations on their late Papers concerning the foure Bils and PROPOSITIONS sent to the KING In bellis civilibus etiam post partam victoriam non statim pax sed varius metus discordia Tacitus lib. secun Hist Imprimatur Gilb. Mabbot LONDON Printed for Robert White Jan 18. 1648 ENGLANDS CONDITION CONSIDERED AND BEWAILED IT is no time to make Apologies and Prefaces to have Epistles dedicatorie and unto the Reader to write under the Rose or to shadow discourses with darke and knotty resemblances wee have been premising and prefacing all this while plain English is best for we are like else to lose our own Dialect shortly The name of Liberty of Subjects and Priviledges of Parliaments will soone be worne out as the old Saxon language and refined into Prerogative and Tyranny And our lawes which were first written in French are like for better understanding them to be reprinted in the same with the Scots marginall notes I am soone fallen into a lamentable discourse before I am aware and my trembling pen would faine hasten over it But I must be serious Distractions and confusions in States and Kingdoms are not trifles He that will view the condition of poore England had need have a heart made of wax and eyes of water and bovvels of compassion If men knew vvhere they are come to they would soone know how to thinke themselvs miserable wee have gone a seven years march in a State disguise and after a long round are fairly reduced into our old condition and it were well say some if vve are no worse the scene is changed but the play the same That noble and gallant spirit which heretofore wrought in true English hearts for liberty and Priviledges is now down and the old unmanklike pusillanimitie come upon us with an addition of stupidity and insensiblenes we have lost our bloud and now we are like to lose our hearts we have been almost destroyed by a civill warre and may be undone by unsound peace But I must be cautious I shall be accounted a foole for my labour yet I must be honest I shall only speak what wise men think and honest men feele if more were done lesse would be spoken Our greatest worke hath been to undoe our selves we have acted magno conatu magnas nugas sowne the winde and brought forth the whirlewind Certainly we have lost that reflect act of our understanding by which they say the rationall soule is made happy Recollect your selves what you have been doing so long a time where you are going vvhat new designs are on you We have escaped the Spanish Inquisition we hope But hovv nigh you are to France and Scotland you little thinke What is become of that golden fleece Liberty vvhich you so gallantly fought for where are the trophies of your conquest vvho will pitie us We have seen our maladie but know not our remedy we know how to be miserable and have found out an easie way to it but yet cannot see our way to be happy Our enemies are conquered and now vve are falling out vvith our friends It s harder to reconcile our ovvn party then to destroy the Kings Our wounds are opened none wholly cured our nakednesse discovered and nothing to cover it What shall become of poore England wee have wonne liberty but dare not weare it the victory is got but we cannot agree about the spoyle Formerly we knew our enemies now vve neither know them nor our friends Seven years experience of tumults and war is sufficient one would think to learne us the way to a happie peace vve have not wanted time or wayes to know our enemies and our friends Providence hath helpt us through a bloudy warre and now division would help us to a dishonest peace But these are too melancholy meditations if men had been as honest as they pretended to be wise vve should have no such sad things to work upon But let us warily consider how vve are come into this condition on whom lies the fault Aske our grandees who stear at the Helme Some blame one some another I blame none and yet all I have nothing to say to particulars vve have too much in generals Some lay the fault on his Majesty And the truth is he hath enough to be charged withall yet since the conquest he hath been under restraint and could not so possitively hinder except you grant him his negative voyce yet he cannot be altogether excused he hath done what in him lies in such a condition his private influences and negotiations have not been ordinary but we have too much to charge him with on the old account Others lay the blame on the Parliament and here we shall not want Votes they say they have sought themselves not the Kingdom but wee may give our enemies too great advantage of us by such jealousies It s true they are the rock to which we have lookt for our salvation they have promised us our liberty they can procure it and it were to be wished they could wash their hands cleane of all things yet all must not be laid on the Parliament but a faction in it they are a great body made up of divers and unsutable spirits and labour with abundance of infirmities and passe through those difficulties vulgar eyes see not yet to be plain more might have been done then is had some of them been lesse imployed and interessed in affaires more would have been acted for us those sad retreats they have made of late is too ominous of great distempers even among them but I shall rather pray for them then speak any more of their frailties Others wipe away all blame from both and lay all on the Army poor men they have born the heat of the War and now must needs have the blame of the Peace it s our misery that we have none to distrust but these which have been most faithfull but yet it may be they are not wholly free though I think in an equall distribution little will come to their share they have been good servants what they may prove when they become masters I know not some mens conditions alter their spirits but we have little cause to suspect them where ever the blame lies the misery is like to lye on us the truth is It hath been the designe of some to bring us where we are and the ill foresight of others we cannot go so far back as to question the truth of our cause God hath cleared that from heaven but some men may question their principles God hath acted for us in the VVar and now men act in the Peace we have not come into this condition per saltum as many Dunces are made Doctors but have gradually insensibly been led into it by the cunning