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A32746 A conference of faith written in Latin by Sebastianus Castellio ; now translated into English.; De fide. English Castellion, Sébastien, 1515-1563. 1679 (1679) Wing C3731; ESTC R11201 20,516 79

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did of my own Fed. Then if any ill happened to you you look't only to him Lud. I did so Fed. And if he promised you any thing you doubted not of his fidelity and performance Lud. No more than if I had the thing promised in my own possession Fed. You were then not follicitous about his Office but your own only Lud. You say true Fed. Moreover if he either commanded you any thing or did any thing himself whereof you being a Child knew not the reason or which seemed to you absurd nevertheless you did it and not doubtingly enquired into his doing Lud. It is so indeed For when at a time were brought fresh Grapes and he bad me tread them with my Feet it seemed to me absurd to tread upon such fair and good Grapes which I would rather have been preferred to eat But because it was my Father I thought he commanded not without a cause therefore I obeyed Also when my Father sometime pruned his Vines and Grafted Trees it seem'd absurd and unreasonable to me that the Branches were cut off which nature had made and which seemed fit to bring forth Fruit. But allways this thought was in my mind unless this were good my Father would not do it Fed. Now let us come to God You say you believe in God your Father and so you call upon him Our Father which art in Heaven It is right therefore that you should certainly depend no less on him than you depended on your Father Therefore if you want any thing do you fly to God alone nor doubt at all but he will bountifully supply you with all things Why do you stick at it Why do you not answer Ludovic Confess the truth nor let a vain carnal fear move you which is wont to keep men from confessing their faults because they are afraid least he to whom they are to be confessed be alienated in mind from them as vitious or have them in less esteem You are in no such danger with me For I cannot be alienated from any one for those vices which I see heretofore in my self and deplore them and I doubt not they are in others unless they have already gone through the way which certainly you and I have not gone through Neither will I esteem you the less if you confess with your mouth before a Friend what I know you confess in your mind already Lud. O my Federic I am asham'd to confess but shame is to be swallowed I truly am oft and very vehemently sollicitous and anxious about necessary things least Bread or Wine or other things faile me especially when I see I have little Money remaining and have no ready way to get more Money Fed. But if you have your Purse full or if you have any ready way of supply then you have no sollicitude at all or surely less Lud. It is so Fed. You trust therefore to your Money or to your Industry more than to God Lud. It is so certainly Fed. But when you were a child you trusted your Father only Lud. Yes Fed. You see now you do not believe in God but in your Money and in your industry I think these words seem to you violent that you can't deny and yet doubt or are ashamed so quickly to confess But compel your self Ludovic many things are to be learned which lye hid in our hearts and we must come to the very root unless that be plucked out we cannot be safe Let us proceed In adversity what say you Ludovic is not your mind somewhat troubled Lud. Yes very much I am not patient in adversity and turn my mind every way to all human remedies Fed. What do you concerning things promised God hath promised you that he will supply you with all necessaries for life If you first seek the Kingdom of God and his righteousness Do you certainly believe his promise so that you are no more doubtful of his truth than you were of your Fathers in your Childhood Lud. Truly I am very short of it Fed. But if Henricus Rotenfeldius your neighbor a Rich man and as he is accounted an honest man had promised you three hundred Growns you would for some years be freed from that sollicitude Lud. Yes Fed. Now God hath promised you not three hundred Crowns but all things necessary and you distrust and are sollicitous Lud. You say true Fed. Therefore you believe in God less than in I will not say your Father but Henrieus Rotenfeldius Lud. I am forced to confess the Truth Fed. And yet men may either through their falsehood or inability not stand to their promises neither of which falls upon God Wherefore by your distrust in God you falsly accuse him either of want of Truth or want of Power Lud. 'T is true Fed. But if you do not trust God for the food of your body who hath never yet failed you can you trust him for a blessed and Eternal life whereof as yet you have never tasted For weigh the matter thus If the King should now send a Messenger to you by whom he would adopt you to be his Son and you believed it in what manner would you behave your self Lud. Verily I should value all that I have as nothing and as here a stranger have my mind already at Court. For such a thing happened to me in my Youth Being in a very mean condition I was called into the Family of a certain Noble and Wealthy man Whereupon I found my mind so changed that I had no such thoughts as I had formerly nor was troubled with any such care and sollicitude as before yea when money was to be sent me from my Parents I sent them word they need not send it for I should henceforth want no money In short I formed in my mind the bravery of the House and place and persons where I should dwell which yet I had never seen Fed. I believe you Ludovic for I have had the like experience in my self But what if you had not believed that messenger Lud. I had continued in the same state I was in Fed. And what if one had seen you remaining in that state would he not easily have affirmed you did not believe the Messenger Lud. Easily Fed. Now let us come to the purpose God hath promis'd to those that love Him such good things as neither Eye hath seen nor Ear heard nor the Heart of man comprehended Let us Ludovic confess the truth here also Should we not if we did verily believe this promise be so carried in our minds to Heav'n that no earthly care should trouble us no sollicitude or vexation touch us Lud. Yes certainly Fed. Now when we rejoyce in gain grieve in loss are sorely affected and dejected with disgrace exult and are glad of honor and pleasure all which are earthly things is not this a plain Argument that we do not believe Gods promises but cleave to an earthly inheritance Lud. It is Fed. What if God should