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5._o touch_v perseverance_n a._n d._n now_o that_o it_o do_v not_o at_o all_o appertain_v to_o that_o kind_n of_o verity_n 57_o pag._n 57_o which_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v by_o faith_n i_o prove_v out_o of_o the_o protestant_n own_v principle_n to_o wit_n that_o 46_o that_o that_o this_o proof_n must_v be_v by_o necessary_a consequence_n without_o all_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v insinuate_v by_o white_a pag._n 46_o nothing_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v by_o faith_n but_o what_o be_v express_o set_v down_o in_o scripture_n or_o so_o contain_v that_o without_o all_o church_n authority_n it_o may_v be_v evident_o and_o by_o good_a consequence_n prove_v out_o of_o scripture_n but_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n special_a mercy_n apply_v absolute_o and_o in_o particular_a to_o luther_n caluine_n etc._n etc._n be_v neither_o express_v nor_o in_o manner_n aforesaid_a contain_v in_o scripture_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o a_o verity_n to_o be_v believe_v by_o faith_n by_o the_o 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it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o necessary_a consequence_n of_o scripture_n without_o all_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n meaning_n as_o i_o suppose_v that_o i_o require_v no_o church_n authority_n to_o assure_v a_o man_n any_o thing_n but_o intend_v such_o thing_n only_o to_o be_v believe_v as_o may_v be_v prove_v at_o least_o by_o consequence_n of_o scripture_n without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n i_o answer_v 2._o thing_n first_o that_o in_o the_o place_n allege_v i_o deny_v no_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v dâ—e_v unto_o it_o but_o only_o against_o they_o that_o charge_v the_o scripture_n with_o insufficiency_n as_o if_o they_o want_v many_o thing_n needful_a to_o be_v believe_v which_o must_v be_v supply_v by_o the_o tradition_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n i_o affirm_v that_o whatsoever_o be_v needful_a to_o be_v know_v believe_v or_o do_v be_v contain_v in_o scripture_n and_o by_o the_o same_o alone_a may_v absolute_o be_v determine_v the_o 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theol._n l._n 1._o pros_fw-la 3._o soto_n in_o rom._n 9_o tract_n de_fw-fr praedestinat_n caietan_n 1_o p._n qu._n 23._o art_n 3._o &_o in_o rom._n 9_o whereof_o all_o be_v clear_a for_o election_n and_o many_o also_o for_o reprobation_n by_o the_o best_a &_o ancient_a schoolman_n that_o i_o have_v look_v into_o so_o that_o if_o the_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v carry_v by_o number_n and_o voice_n caluines_n doctrine_n 151._o doctrine_n report_a by_o the_o reply_n pag._n 151._o that_o god_n have_v predestinate_v without_o any_o merit_n or_o demerit_n of_o their_o part_n that_o be_v predestinate_v only_o because_o it_o so_o please_v he_o must_v be_v acknowledge_v the_o truth_n and_o my_o adversary_n doctrine_n transcribe_v and_o steal_v out_o of_o becanus_n a_o dozen_o leaf_n together_o must_v be_v award_v to_o contain_v 145._o contain_v the_o poison_n of_o the_o most_o pestilent_a opinion_n which_o caluine_n hold_v a.d._n pag._n 145._o the_o poison_n and_o the_o pestilence_n the_o jesuit_n 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save_v they_o whereof_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n on_o the_o part_n of_o man_n the_o other_o positive_a whereby_o he_o will_v damn_v they_o the_o cause_n whereof_o be_v the_o prevision_n of_o sin_n 3._o sin_n dry_a concord_n part_n 1._o c_o 3_o sixt._n sen_n l._n 6._o ann_n 251._o pomponat_fw-la de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la pag._n 955._o tolet._n in_o ro_n 9_o ann_n 19_o &_o 26._o etc._n etc._n 11._o ann_n 4._o peter_n select_v disp_n in_o rom._n 9_o disp_n 5_o suar._n de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la l._n 1._o c_o 8._o n._n 32._o &_o l._n 2._o c_o 23._o nu_fw-la 14._o 20._o 27._o peasant_n 1._o p._n qu._n 23._o art_n 5._o disp_n 6._o &_o p._n 157._o concl_n 4._o zumel_n disput_fw-la w_o part_n 3._o pag._n 343_o 345._o 346._o rispol_n lib._n 1._o qu._n 1._o concl_n 3._o the_o same_o be_v affirm_v by_o oath_n &_o though_o the_o most_o of_o they_o hold_v which_o i_o deny_v not_o that_o predestination_n be_v in_o the_o mass_n of_o sin_n and_o reprobation_n positive_a which_o only_o be_v god_n purpose_n to_o punish_v the_o reprobate_n be_v to_o punish_v they_o for_o work_n foresee_v yet_o that_o help_v not_o my_o adversary_n opinion_n who_o affirm_v predestination_n in_o what_o state_n soever_o it_o be_v to_o be_v ex_fw-la praevisis_fw-la and_o say_v that_o not_o only_o positive_a reprobation_n which_o be_v no_o more_o but_o god_n purpose_n to_o damn_v and_o to_o execute_v that_o which_o be_v call_v negative_a reprobation_n but_o election_n itself_o be_v for_o the_o prevision_n of_o work_n do_v by_o our_o own_o free_a will_n which_o the_o work_v even_o of_o the_o corrupt_a mass_n be_v not_o but_o be_v do_v by_o adam_n will_n which_o all_o these_o confute_v vasquez_n 1._o vasquez_n vasqu_n 1_o p._n disp_n 95._o n_o 2._o the_o same_o thing_n affirm_v by_o suar._n de_fw-fr praedest_fw-la l._n 5._o c._n 3._o n._n 1._o say_v there_o be_v not_o a_o few_o thomist_n that_o affirm_v god_n to_o have_v keep_v the_o same_o order_n in_o reprobation_n that_o he_o do_v in_o election_n that_o 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devil_n the_o world_n and_o the_o flesh_n in_o that_o respect_n by_o the_o papist_n own_o confession_n be_v right_o call_v the_o church_n militant_a 3_o next_o he_o say_v the_o church_n which_o consist_v only_o of_o the_o elect_n i_o call_v the_o catholic_a church_n which_o he_o dare_v not_o deny_v neither_o when_o he_o bethink_v himself_o a_o little_a better_o how_o the_o catholic_a church_n mention_v in_o the_o creed_n communionem_fw-la creed_n catech._n rom._n in_o symb_n §_o sanctorum_fw-la communionem_fw-la be_v no_o other_o then_o that_o whereto_o belong_v the_o communion_n of_o saint_n the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n the_o life_n everlasting_a and_o though_o the_o reprobate_n and_o unbeliever_n mingle_v among_o these_o be_v call_v also_o by_o the_o name_n 6._o name_n show_v cap._n 39_o n_o 6._o yet_o be_v they_o no_o true_a or_o univocal_a member_n thereof_o in_o as_o much_o as_o 5.23_o as_o eph._n 5.23_o christ_n be_v the_o saviour_n of_o his_o body_n but_o the_o church_n wherein_o they_o live_v as_o mouse_n and_o vermin_n live_v in_o a_o man_n house_n be_v call_v catholic_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o elect._n 4._o the_o three_o thing_n he_o say_v be_v that_o this_o church_n militant_a and_o catholic_a to_o keep_v the_o antithesis_fw-la i_o shall_v either_o have_v call_v the_o church_n triumphant_a not_o as_o catholic_n mean_v triumphant_a but_o because_o be_v visible_a it_o may_v triumph_v indeed_o in_o that_o no_o persecutor_n can_v find_v know_v or_o hurt_v they_o but_o this_o foolish_a conceit_n avoid_v not_o that_o i_o say_v but_o idle_o and_o rude_o fly_v from_o it_o for_o the_o church_n which_o in_o that_o place_n i_o affirm_v to_o be_v invisible_a be_v not_o the_o militant_a but_o the_o church_n of_o the_o elect_a alone_o which_o consider_v apart_o by_o itself_o and_o abstract_v from_o all_o other_o respect_n our_o adversary_n themselves_o confess_v to_o be_v invisible_a in_o that_o they_o hold_v 113._o hold_v possunt_fw-la homines_fw-la aliquibus_fw-la coniectutis_fw-la opinari_fw-la quinam_fw-la sint_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la piorum_fw-la hominum_fw-la nun_n erum_fw-la pertineant_fw-la certò_fw-la autem_fw-la scire_fw-la minime_fw-la possunt_fw-la haec_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la pars_fw-la est_fw-la incognita_fw-la cate._n rom._n p_o 113._o no_o man_n can_v judge_v who_o be_v elect_v nor_o see_v the_o glorify_a triumph_v in_o heaven_n and_o so_o they_o lie_v open_a to_o the_o jesuite_n raw_a conceit_n as_o much_o as_o we_o 5_o four_o he_o give_v a_o reason_n why_o i_o shall_v rather_o have_v call_v the_o church_n triumphant_a then_o militant_a or_o catholic_a because_o be_v as_o protestant_n hold_v invisible_a it_o need_v fear_v no_o persecution_n but_o may_v triumph_v indeed_o when_o no_o man_n can_v hurt_v or_o find_v they_o and_o then_o spin_v out_o the_o conceit_n he_o say_v it_o may_v also_o be_v call_v a_o lamentant_fw-la or_o a_o lamentable_a church_n in_o that_o be_v invisible_a member_n thereof_o can_v have_v no_o fellowship_n one_o with_o another_o nor_o perform_v those_o office_n which_o shall_v be_v do_v or_o tell_v where_o to_o seek_v for_o instruction_n sacrament_n or_o pastor_n nor_o final_o have_v so_o much_o as_o a_o historiographer_n to_o write_v their_o act_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o respect_n the_o protestant_n invisible_a church_n may_v be_v call_v a_o church_n lamentant_fw-la or_o a_o lamentable_a church_n this_o be_v the_o jesuite_n crudity_n and_o yet_o a_o well_o digest_v answer_n to_o that_o i_o say_v touch_v these_o matter_n will_v have_v more_o prevail_v with_o all_o that_o love_v the_o truth_n for_o how_o and_o in_o what_o manner_n we_o hold_v the_o church_n to_o be_v invisible_a and_o how_o all_o this_o that_o be_v object_v may_v be_v answer_v i_o have_v show_v at_o large_a 24._o large_a §._o 17._o ad_fw-la 24._o in_o the_o way_n and_o here_o i_o only_o admonish_v my_o adversary_n that_o he_o have_v a_o lamentable_a cause_n in_o hand_n and_o as_o lamentable_a a_o faculty_n to_o manage_v it_o when_o with_o a_o phlegmatic_a jest_n he_o mention_n that_o which_o yet_o in_o the_o place_n where_o he_o be_v put_v to_o it_o think_v it_o his_o best_a course_n to_o say_v nothing_o to_o it_o chap._n xxii_o 1._o report_v make_v by_o papist_n that_o the_o protestant_n be_v without_o religion_n they_o hold_v the_o justification_n of_o the_o gentile_n without_o the_o gospel_n or_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n 2_o no_o salvation_n but_o in_o one_o true_a religion_n 3_o the_o replier_n tergiversation_n 131._o page_n 131._o a._n d._n the_o conclusion_n of_o my_o first_o chapter_n to_o wit_n that_o faith_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v chief_o intend_v to_o be_v set_v down_o against_o such_o as_o think_v it_o sufficient_a to_o lead_v a_o moral_a honest_a life_n without_o care_n of_o embrace_v either_o one_o 2._o white_a p._n 2._o or_o other_o faith_n both_o my_o adversary_n grant_v this_o my_o conclusion_n therefore_o i_o need_v not_o say_v much_o about_o this_o matter_n 1_o the_o conclusion_n here_o mention_v that_o faith_n be_v necessary_a to_o salvation_n be_v not_o chief_o intend_v against_o such_o as_o think_v a_o moral_a honest_a life_n sufficient_a without_o care_n of_o embrace_a faith_n but_o against_o the_o protestant_n who_o 12._o who_o wright_n art_n 1._o posseâ—in_n bibl_n select_v l_o 8_o c._n 1._o ad_fw-la 12._o they_o report_v to_o have_v no_o faith_n nor_o god_n nor_o religion_n but_o to_o be_v mere_a atheist_n hosius_n and_o prataeolus_n 71._o prataeolus_n prateol_n elench_v l._n 1._o c_o 77._o pag._n 71._o write_v that_o we_o worship_v the_o devil_n and_o as_o catholic_n forsooth_o worship_n god_n 9_o time_n adays_o so_o we_o invocate_v and_o worship_v the_o devil_n 10._o time_n adays_o d._n stapleton_n say_v 621._o say_v qu._n 3._o quod_fw-la lib._n p._n 621._o there_o be_v no_o religion_n at_o all_o in_o we_o neither_o true_a nor_o false_a neither_o earnest_n nor_o feign_a and_o what_o opinion_n they_o have_v raise_v of_o we_o in_o italy_n and_o spain_n all_o man_n know_v neither_o be_v it_o credible_a that_o he_o think_v the_o faith_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v so_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n as_o here_o he_o say_v for_o many_o divine_n of_o his_o church_n allow_v salvation_n to_o the_o gentile_n who_o have_v no_o faith_n but_o only_o moral_a honesty_n of_o life_n 690._o life_n sleid._n comment_n a_o 52._o p._n 690._o this_o be_v preach_v at_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n and_o publish_v by_o 291._o by_o andrad_n orthod_n explic_a p._n 291._o a_o principal_a man_n of_o the_o council_n the_o divine_n also_o of_o collen_n 220._o collen_n bale_n cent_n 14._o c._n 59_o pag._n 220._o set_v forth_o book_n concern_v the_o salvation_n of_o aristotle_n wherein_o they_o maintain_v that_o as_o john_n baptist_n be_v the_o forerunner_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o thing_n of_o grace_n so_o aristotle_n be_v his_o forerunner_n in_o the_o thing_n belong_v to_o nature_n yea_o 302._o yea_o accost_n de_fw-fr indorum_fw-la salut_fw-la l._n 5._o c._n 3._o grego_n de_fw-fr val._n â—om_n 3._o pag._n 302._o a_o jesuite_n blab_v it_o out_o that_o certain_a school_n doctor_n of_o this_o time_n very_o grave_a man_n confirm_v that_o salvation_n may_v be_v have_v without_o any_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n the_o which_o be_v true_a and_o these_o doctor_n 3._o doctor_n that_o the_o gentile_n which_o know_v not_o the_o gospel_n be_v justify_v and_o save_v by_o their_o moral_a life_n and_o believe_v that_o there_o be_v a_o god_n reward_v such_o as_o come_v towards_o he_o without_o the_o knowledge_n or_o faith_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o opinion_n that_o have_v great_a patron_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n gregory_n of_o valenza_n say_v it_o be_v hold_v by_o vega_n soto_n and_o victoria_n to_o who_o cassalius_n the_o quadripart_n inst_z part_n 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 12._o add_v aquinas_n lyra_n abulensis_n bruno_n dionysius_n carthus_n arboreus_n laudunens_n durand_n capreolus_n paludanus_n ludovicus_n vives_z and_o himself_o think_v it_o may_v be_v hold_v safe_o nullum_fw-la in_fw-la hac_fw-la parte_fw-la discrimen_fw-la rimendum_fw-la videtur_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la sibi_fw-la concessa_fw-la optione_n sententiam_fw-la hanc_fw-la vel_fw-la illam_fw-la obnixè_fw-la tucatur_fw-la pag._n 51._o andradius_n ut_fw-la quis_fw-la cum_fw-la deo_fw-la arctissimo_fw-la charitatis_fw-la iustitiaeque_fw-la vinculo_fw-la prioribus_fw-la illis_fw-la seculis_fw-la constringeretur_fw-la nullam_fw-la aliam_fw-la fidem_fw-la requirebat_fw-la paulus_n quam_fw-la credere_fw-la deum_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o inquirentium_fw-la se_fw-la munificentissimum_fw-la remuneratorem_fw-la esse_fw-la hanc_fw-la qui_fw-la accepta_fw-la à _fw-la rebus_fw-la creatis_fw-la disciplina_fw-la fuerint_fw-la consecuti_fw-la quid_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la à _fw-la iustitiae_fw-la sinibus_fw-la excludantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n pag._n 290._o orth_n expl_n vega_n atque_fw-la hinc_fw-la persuaderi_fw-la potest_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la iustificari_fw-la posse_fw-la homines_fw-la sed_fw-la &_o saluariâ—â—_n sine_fw-la fide_fw-la christi_fw-la explicita_fw-la cum_fw-la haberi_fw-la possit_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la invincibilis_fw-la
praed_fw-we sect_n 6._o other_o that_o hold_v predestination_n to_o be_v ex_fw-la praevisis_fw-la to_o deliver_v it_o in_o the_o same_o manner_n lessius_fw-la a_o jesuite_n among_o the_o rest_n have_v one_o 75._o one_o 5._o assert_v pag_n 367._o n._n 75._o assertion_n that_o contain_v all_o this_o all_o the_o justify_v be_v elect_v and_o predestinate_a to_o glory_v but_o this_o election_n and_o predestination_n be_v not_o complete_a but_o require_v a_o condition_n on_o our_o behalf_n that_o it_o may_v be_v complete_a the_o which_o condition_n it_o be_v in_o our_o own_o power_n to_o accomplish_v or_o not_o to_o accomplish_v and_o therefore_o it_o be_v also_o in_o our_o own_o power_n to_o make_v that_o our_o predestination_n may_v be_v complete_a aureolus_n rom._n aureolus_n 1._o d._n 41._o art_n 1._o pag._n 490._o edit_n rom._n say_v that_o all_o school_n man_n which_o hold_v predestination_n ex_fw-la praevisis_fw-la expound_v that_o god_n will_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v antecedent_o before_o their_o work_n but_o not_o consequent_o by_o his_o will_n follow_v the_o foresight_n of_o their_o work_n which_o word_n make_v the_o doctrine_n of_o god_n antecedent_n and_o consequent_a will_n thus_o expound_v to_o set_v the_o first_o act_n of_o god_n love_v jacob_n after_o the_o foresight_n of_o jacobs_n good_a life_n and_o to_o make_v the_o foresight_n of_o man_n good_a or_o ill_a desert_n to_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o election_n and_o reprobation_n the_o question_n then_o between_o the_o jesuite_n and_o i_o touch_v predestination_n will_n the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n touch_v god_n antecedent_n will_n be_v this_o not_o whether_o god_n from_o all_o eternity_n decree_v to_o punish_v the_o reprobate_n eternal_o for_o their_o sin_n so_o that_o their_o sin_n shall_v be_v the_o immediate_a cause_n of_o their_o damnation_n for_o this_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o the_o true_a state_n be_v touch_v the_o cause_n of_o the_o decree_n itself_o that_o be_v to_o 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the_o cause_n of_o their_o rejection_n 11_o the_o which_o doctrine_n of_o my_o adversary_n how_o plain_a soever_o he_o think_v it_o to_o judicious_a wit_n whether_o predestination_n be_v in_o the_o corrupt_a mass_n of_o sin_n or_o before_o and_o whether_o the_o foresee_v work_n be_v understand_v to_o be_v of_o grace_n or_o of_o nature_n be_v false_a upon_o five_o ground_n first_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v the_o very_a opinion_n of_o the_o massilian_n who_o of_o all_o hand_n be_v hold_v to_o have_v be_v semipelagian_n or_o the_o relic_n of_o pelagius_n prosper_n august_n prosper_n epist_n ad_fw-la august_n say_v this_o be_v their_o profession_n that_o every_o man_n sin_v in_o adam_n and_o that_o no_o man_n be_v regenerate_v to_o salvation_n by_o his_o work_n but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n nevertheless_o the_o propitiation_n which_o be_v in_o the_o mystery_n of_o christ_n blood_n be_v propound_v to_o all_o man_n without_o exception_n that_o whosoever_o will_v come_v to_o faith_n and_o baptism_n may_v be_v save_v but_o who_o will_v believe_v and_o who_o will_v persevere_v in_o that_o faith_n which_o afterward_o shall_v be_v holpen_v by_o god_n grace_n those_o god_n foreknow_v before_o the_o world_n be_v make_v and_o those_o he_o predestinate_a unto_o his_o kingdom_n who_o he_o foresee_v be_v free_o call_v will_v be_v worthy_a of_o election_n and_o will_v depart_v this_o life_n well_o and_o faustus_n that_o be_v a_o bishop_n of_o that_o sect_n 2._o sect_n de_fw-fr great_a &_o lib_n arb_n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o say_v what_o god_n may_v foresee_v or_o foreordain_a touch_v we_o concern_v that_o which_o be_v to_o come_v that_o consist_v in_o our_o well_n or_o ill_o do_v 833._o do_v cap._n 3._o pag._n 833._o it_o be_v one_o thing_n for_o god_n to_o foreknow_v and_o another_o to_o predestine_v prescience_n foresee_v what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v and_o then_o afterward_o predestination_n appoint_v the_o reward_n that_o foresee_v the_o merit_n this_o fore-ordaines_a the_o reward_n when_o that_o have_v pronounce_v a_o cause_n than_o this_o foretell_v the_o sentence_n and_o so_o unless_o god_n prescience_n discover_v something_o his_o predestination_n decree_v nothing_o this_o be_v the_o self_n same_o that_o my_o adversary_n 166._o adversary_n pag._n 166._o write_v how_o god_n upon_o the_o foresight_n and_o respect_n of_o man_n live_n and_o die_v well_o in_o the_o secret_a chamber_n of_o his_o divine_a knowledge_n and_o will_n pronounce_v a_o particular_a sentence_n and_o decree_n of_o salvation_n to_o some_o and_o of_o damnation_n to_o other_o which_o also_o be_v the_o doctrine_n whereinto_o this_o exposition_n of_o god_n antecedent_n and_o consequent_a will_n be_v resolve_v again_o if_o god_n predestine_v no_o man_n to_o his_o end_n but_o upon_o the_o foresight_n and_o respect_n of_o his_o work_n than_o he_o have_v no_o perfect_a or_o formal_a will_n to_o elect_v any_o but_o after_o the_o foresight_n of_o his_o good_a life_n nor_o to_o reprobate_v any_o but_o after_o the_o foresight_n of_o his_o evil_a life_n which_o be_v so_o i_o demand_v whence_o it_o come_v that_o the_o elect_v believe_v and_o the_o reprobate_n believe_v not_o and_o how_o it_o come_v to_o pass_v that_o god_n foresee_v grace_n in_o the_o one_o and_o sin_n in_o the_o other_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v answer_v either_o that_o it_o be_v god_n will_v the_o elect_v shall_v have_v grace_n and_o the_o reprobate_n no_o grace_n give_v they_o or_o that_o they_o believe_v or_o not_o believe_v of_o their_o own_o free_a will_n by_o the_o strength_n of_o nature_n without_o any_o work_n of_o god_n this_o latter_a be_v gross_a pelagianisme_n make_v nature_n the_o beginning_n of_o grace_n but_o if_o the_o former_a be_v grant_v that_o god_n foresee_v no_o grace_n but_o what_o himself_o predestinate_v to_o give_v nor_o no_o sin_n but_o what_o upon_o the_o withhold_n of_o his_o grace_n the_o reprobate_n will_v free_o work_v then_o against_o all_o discourse_n this_o make_v that_o the_o cause_n of_o predestination_n which_o be_v a_o effect_n ensue_v on_o it_o for_o therefore_o god_n will_v and_o do_v give_v grace_n because_o first_o he_o have_v elect_v and_o will_v give_v no_o grace_n because_o he_o have_v reprobate_v as_o i_o will_v show_v by_o and_o by_o 12_o second_o it_o be_v a_o ground_n both_o in_o divinity_n and_o nature_n that_o the_o will_n intend_v the_o end_n before_o the_o mean_n hence_o it_o follow_v that_o god_n can_v have_v this_o consequent_a will_n to_o save_v upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o grace_n for_o i_o reason_n thus_o d._n thus_o quia_fw-la volens_fw-la ordinatè_fw-la finem_fw-la &_o ea_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la ad_fw-la finem_fw-la prius_fw-la vult_fw-la finen_n quam_fw-la aliquod_fw-la entium_fw-la ad_fw-la finem_fw-la &_o propter_fw-la talem_fw-la finem_fw-la alia_fw-la vult_fw-la ergo_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o toto_fw-la process_n quo_fw-la creatura_fw-la beatâ—ficabilis_fw-la perducitur_fw-la ad_fw-la perfectum_fw-la finem_fw-la cum_fw-la finis_fw-la vltimus_fw-la sit_fw-la beatitudo_fw-la perfecta_fw-la deus_fw-la volens_fw-la huic_fw-la aliquid_fw-la istius_fw-la ordinis_fw-la primo_fw-la wlt_fw-la hvic_n creaturae_fw-la beatificabili_fw-la finem_fw-la et_fw-la qvasi_fw-la posterius_n wlt_fw-la sibi_fw-la alia_fw-la qvae_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o ordine_fw-la illorum_n qvae_fw-la pertinent_a ad_fw-la finem_fw-la scilicet_fw-la gratia_n fides_n meritum_fw-la &_o bone_fw-la usus_fw-la liberi_fw-la arbitrij_fw-la omnia_fw-la ista_fw-la ad_fw-la istum_fw-la finem_fw-la sunt_fw-la ordinata_fw-la licet_fw-la quaedam_fw-la remotiùs_fw-la &_o quaedam_fw-la propinquiùs_fw-la ergo_fw-la primo_fw-la isti_fw-la wlt_fw-la deve_n beatitudinem_fw-la qvam_fw-la aliqvid_n istorum_n et_fw-la prius_fw-la wlt_fw-la â—i_fw-la qvodcunqve_n istorum_n qvam_fw-la praevideat_fw-la ipsum_fw-la habiturum_fw-la quodcunque_fw-la istorum_fw-la jgitur_fw-la propter_fw-la nullum_fw-la istorum_n praevisum_fw-la wlt_fw-mi ei_o beatitudinem_fw-la scot._n 1._o d._n 4._o cue_n unic_n §._o potest_fw-la aliter_fw-la media_n ut_fw-la media_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la appeti_fw-la nisi_fw-la propter_fw-la finem_fw-la non_fw-la igitur_fw-la potuit_fw-la deus_fw-la
velle_fw-la dare_v certiâ—_n hominibus_fw-la media_fw-la infallibilia_fw-la ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la dare_v vellet_fw-la ijsdem_fw-la hominibus_fw-la ipsam_fw-la salutem_fw-la bellarm._n the_o great_a &_o lib._n arbiâ—_n l_o 2._o c._n 15._o pag._n 472_o d._n in_o the_o order_n of_o reason_n and_o causalitie_n the_o will_n of_o the_o end_n go_v before_o the_o will_n of_o the_o mean_n that_o bring_v to_o the_o end_n in_o that_o the_o mean_n be_v not_o intend_v but_o for_o a_o certain_a end_n and_o so_o the_o say_a end_n be_v enter_v the_o will_n and_o propound_v by_o it_o before_o the_o mean_n but_o god_n will_v to_o elect_v man_n to_o glory_n be_v his_o will_n of_o the_o end_n because_o glory_n be_v the_o end_n of_o faith_n and_o a_o good_a life_n and_o faith_n and_o a_o good_a life_n be_v the_o mean_n because_o they_o bring_v to_o glory_v declare_v glory_v deus_fw-la nulli_fw-la electorum_fw-la ab_fw-la aeterno_fw-la ideo_fw-la ordinavit_fw-la dare_v finalem_fw-la beatitudinem_fw-la in_o patria_fw-la quia_fw-la praeordinavit_fw-la dare_v ei_fw-la gratiam_fw-la &_o iustitiam_fw-la in_o via_fw-la sed_fw-la potiùs_fw-la è_fw-la conuerso_fw-la ideo_fw-la praeordinavit_fw-la ab_fw-la aeterno_fw-la dare_v ei_fw-la graetiam_fw-la pro_fw-la via_fw-la quia_fw-la gratis_o pure_a praedestinavit_fw-la ei_fw-la dare_v finalem_fw-la beatitudinem_fw-la pro_fw-la patriae_fw-la andrae_n castrens_fw-la 1._o d._n 40._o concl_n 5._o deus_fw-la prius_fw-la vult_fw-la glorium_fw-la petro_n deinde_fw-la gratiam_fw-la etc._n etc._n fra._n mayro_n 1._o d._n 41._o qu._n 4._o §._o hoc_fw-la autem_fw-la declare_v therefore_o god_n will_v to_o elect_v man_n to_o glory_n go_v before_o his_o will_n to_o give_v they_o faith_n and_o grace_n therefore_o he_o elect_v not_o after_o or_o upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o faith_n and_o grace_n therefore_o before_o he_o see_v faith_n or_o grace_n in_o jacob_n which_o he_o will_v give_v he_o he_o purpose_v to_o give_v he_o life_n eternal_a therefore_o he_o purpose_v to_o give_v faith_n and_o grace_n after_o his_o will_n to_o give_v he_o eternal_a life_n and_o therefore_o he_o elect_v no_o man_n consequent_o upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o his_o faith_n and_o good_a life_n nor_o antecedent_o will_v the_o salvation_n of_o the_o reprobate_n from_o who_o by_o his_o eternal_a purpose_n he_o decree_v as_o the_o mean_n to_o withhold_v his_o grace_n 13_o three_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a will_n suppose_v that_o god_n elect_v none_o to_o glory_n but_o for_o the_o grace_n and_o perseverance_n he_o foresee_v in_o he_o nor_o reprobate_n or_o refuse_v any_o from_o glory_n but_o for_o the_o sin_n he_o foresee_v in_o he_o thus_o my_o adversary_n say_v 163._o say_v pag._n 163._o we_o must_v hold_v for_o certain_a god_n do_v not_o effectual_o ordain_v any_o to_o salvation_n or_o damnation_n without_o foresight_n of_o their_o good_a or_o ill_a desert_n 164._o desert_n pag._n 164._o god_n have_v decree_v in_o general_a that_o all_o and_o only_o those_o shall_v be_v effectual_o save_v who_o by_o use_v the_o mean_n of_o salvation_n and_o help_n of_o grace_n shall_v depart_v this_o life_n in_o good_a state_n and_o that_o those_o and_o only_o those_o shall_v be_v damn_v who_o by_o neglect_v grace_n depart_v this_o life_n in_o the_o state_n of_o sin_n 165._o sin_n pag._n 165._o leave_v it_o to_o the_o liberty_n and_o free_a choice_n of_o man_n whether_o they_o will_v use_v or_o not_o use_v those_o help_n and_o mean_n and_o so_o upon_o this_o foresight_n and_o respect_n of_o man_n live_n and_o die_v well_o or_o ill_o pronounce_v the_o sentence_n of_o salvation_n and_o damnation_n against_o this_o i_o reason_n thus_o he_o that_o neither_o elect_v nor_o reprobate_n any_o upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o their_o good_a or_o ill_o use_v of_o grace_n and_o mean_n offer_v by_o their_o own_o freewill_n have_v no_o such_o antecedent_n will_n to_o save_v all_o nor_o consequent_a will_n to_o reprobate_v any_o only_o upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o their_o sin_n this_o be_v plain_a because_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a will_n be_v define_v by_o willing_a and_o not_o willing_a upon_o foresight_n of_o that_o which_o man_n by_o his_o freewill_n will_v do_v and_o if_o the_o definition_n be_v not_o in_o god_n than_o neither_o be_v the_o thing_n define_v but_o god_n neither_o elect_v nor_o reprobate_n any_o upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o their_o good_a or_o ill_o use_v of_o grace_n and_o mean_n offer_v by_o their_o own_o freewill_n ergo_fw-la god_n have_v no_o such_o antecedent_n will_n to_o save_v all_o nor_o consequent_a will_n to_o reprobate_v any_o upon_o the_o condition_n of_o their_o work_n the_o second_o proposition_n i_o prove_v by_o reason_n and_o authority_n by_o reason_n for_o whatsoever_o he_o foresee_v in_o any_o that_o himself_o purpose_v to_o work_v if_o he_o foresee_v grace_n and_o the_o good_a use_n of_o freewill_n in_o jacob_n he_o purpose_v to_o work_v it_o by_o infuse_v it_o if_o he_o foresee_v sin_n and_o the_o ill_a use_n of_o freewill_n in_o esaw_n he_o purpose_v e._n purpose_v rom._n 9.18_o habemus_fw-la ex_fw-la doctrina_fw-la thomae_fw-la quod_fw-la divina_fw-la reprobatio_fw-la est_fw-la causa_n de_fw-fr relictionis_fw-la in_o peccato_fw-la &_o aeternae_fw-la poenae_fw-la bann_n 1._o p._n pag._n 665._o e._n to_o work_v it_o by_o withhold_v grace_n and_o harden_v and_o he_o not_o only_o purpose_v to_o work_v this_o which_o he_o foresee_v but_o to_o work_v and_o effect_v it_o as_o the_o mean_n and_o as_o a_o subordinate_a second_o cause_n to_o bring_v man_n to_o the_o end_n appoint_v for_o grace_v freewill_n perseverance_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v but_o cause_n lead_v to_o the_o end_n and_o therefore_o 8._o therefore_o inter_fw-la primam_fw-la causam_fw-la agentem_fw-la &_o secundam_fw-la est_fw-la ordo_fw-la quo_fw-la una_fw-la necessario_fw-la pendet_fw-la ab_fw-la altera_fw-la ergo_fw-la secunda_fw-la non_fw-la agit_fw-fr nisi_fw-la à _fw-la prima_fw-la ad_fw-la agendum_fw-la mota_fw-la &_o applicata_fw-la ideo_fw-la enim_fw-la dici_fw-la videtur_fw-la causa_fw-la secunda_fw-la quia_fw-la movetur_fw-la à _fw-la prima_fw-la alioqui_fw-la enim_fw-la solùm_fw-la esset_fw-la causa_fw-la eum_fw-la prima_fw-la azo_n instit_fw-la moral_a tom_fw-mi 1._o l._n 1._o cap._n 21_o ad_fw-la 8._o secondary_a and_o subordinate_a cause_n and_o therefore_o decree_v and_o intend_v after_o the_o end_n and_o less_o principal_o than_o the_o end_n the_o e._n the_o suar._n latè_fw-la de_fw-la praedest_fw-la lib._n 3._o c._n 2._o &_o inde_fw-la qâ—ic_n quid_fw-la est_fw-la in_o homine_fw-la ordinans_fw-la ipsam_fw-la in_o salutem_fw-la totum_fw-la comprehenditur_fw-la sub_fw-la effectu_fw-la praedestinationis_fw-la capreol_n 1._o d._n 41._o art_n 1._o fra._n mayron_n cue_n 4._o d_o thomâ—s_n ut_fw-la catholicus_n &_o in_o doctrina_fw-la augustini_fw-la &_o conciliorum_fw-la valde_fw-la versatus_fw-la considerate_a bonum_fw-la usum_fw-la liberi_fw-la arbitrij_fw-la quo_fw-la quis_fw-la liberè_fw-la uti_fw-la ur_fw-la auxilio_fw-la dei_fw-la tanquam_fw-la effectum_fw-la gratiae_fw-la divinae_fw-la &_o praedestinationis_fw-la praeordinatum_fw-la &_o praedefinitum_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la vnde_fw-la colligit_fw-la necessario_fw-la quod_fw-la ille_fw-la bone_fw-la usus_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la ratio_fw-la praedestinationis_fw-la cum_fw-la ipsemet_fw-la sit_fw-la effectus_fw-la praedestinationis_fw-la &_o praedefinitionis_fw-la dei_fw-la bann_n 1._o pag._n 632._o e._n jesuite_n confess_v not_o only_a glory_n in_o the_o life_n to_o come_v but_o the_o first_o grace_n and_o justification_n and_o all_o supernatural_a work_n and_o the_o cooperation_n of_o freewill_n and_o all_o the_o goodness_n and_o strength_n of_o nature_n and_o perseverance_n in_o this_o life_n to_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o predestination_n intend_v and_o effectual_o give_v of_o god_n to_o the_o elect_a for_o the_o bring_n of_o they_o to_o glory_n this_o glory_n therefore_o can_v not_o be_v intend_v upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o they_o but_o by_o the_o mean_n of_o they_o and_o therefore_o jacob_n can_v not_o be_v elect_v nor_o esaw_n reprobate_v upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o the_o good_a and_o ill_a use_n of_o grace_n and_o freewill_n as_o any_o cause_n move_v god_n thereunto_o but_o the_o cause_n must_v be_v his_o own_o will_n move_v itself_o in_o manner_n unknown_a to_o we_o and_o jacobs_n well_o use_v grace_n be_v the_o mean_n intend_v by_o god_n to_o bring_v he_o to_o salvation_n and_o esawe_n wickedness_n which_o god_n decree_v to_o permit_v be_v the_o mean_n intend_v by_o he_o to_o bring_v he_o to_o the_o condemnation_n whereunto_o the_o mass_n of_o sin_n will_v lead_v second_o that_o neither_o election_n nor_o reprobation_n special_o negative_a which_o alone_o contain_v the_o whole_a reason_n of_o reprobation_n 9.13_o reprobation_n odio_fw-la habere_fw-la non_fw-la sonat_fw-la solum_fw-la privationem_fw-la dilectionis_fw-la sed_fw-la significat_fw-la velle_fw-la malum_fw-la caieta_n comm_n in_o rom._n 9.13_o or_o his_o purpose_n not_o to_o save_v or_o elect_v esaw_n which_o be_v negative_a reprobation_n put_v he_o into_o the_o state_n that_o he_o must_v be_v damn_v be_v upon_o the_o foresight_n of_o work_n or_o upon_o the_o condition_n of_o
down_o all_o with_o his_o hand_n and_o fight_v with_o jupiter_n with_o his_o new_a term_n and_o large_a explication_n he_o conjure_v the_o old_a faith_n out_o of_o the_o church_n his_o golden_a vincentius_n have_v another_o point_n to_o this_o purpose_n that_o the_o repliar_a oversee_n 30_o oversee_n monitor_n c._n 30_o it_o be_v lawful_a that_o those_o ancient_a article_n of_o heavenly_a doctrine_n be_v dress_v and_o file_v and_o polish_a but_o villainy_n to_o change_v they_o villainy_n to_o maim_n and_o curtail_v they_o let_v they_o receive_v if_o you_o will_v evidence_n light_n distinction_n but_o withal_o let_v they_o hold_v their_o fullness_n integrity_n and_o propriety_n this_o rule_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v not_o observe_v but_o contrary_a thereunto_o it_o have_v not_o only_o expound_v the_o article_n of_o the_o ancient_a faith_n corrupt_o but_o also_o add_v many_o new_a article_n which_o in_o the_o ancient_a church_n be_v never_o know_v chap._n xlvi_o 1_o the_o error_n broach_v by_o the_o late_a divine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n 2_o their_o error_n maintain_v by_o that_o church_n and_o their_o writing_n to_o good_a purpose_n allege_v by_o the_o protestant_n 3_o how_o that_o which_o they_o speak_v for_o the_o protestant_n be_v shift_v off_o 5_o one_o reason_n why_o we_o allege_v their_o say_n 6_o that_o which_o be_v say_v in_o excuse_n of_o their_o disagreement_n answer_v a._n d._n the_o second_o objection_n my_o adversary_n may_v second_o object_n that_o all_o this_o notwithstanding_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v 274._o pag._n 274._o but_o that_o in_o particular_a man_n writing_n set_v out_o in_o these_o latter_a age_n there_o have_v be_v &_o be_v find_v diverse_a error_n contrary_a to_o the_o former_a faith_n of_o the_o father_n to_o justify_v the_o truth_n of_o this_o objection_n it_o seem_v that_o m._n white_n have_v with_o great_a pain_n rake_v together_o all_o the_o riff-raff_a and_o odd_a opinion_n he_o can_v find_v in_o any_o 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