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A70766	Moderation a vertue, or, A vindication of the principles and practices of the moderate divines and laity of the Church of England represented in some late immoderate discourses, under the nick-names of Grindalizers and Trimmers / by a lover of moderation, resident upon his cure ; with an appendix, demonstrating that parish-churches are no conventicles ... in answer to a late pamphlet entitled, Parish-churches turned into conventicles, &c.	Owen, John, 1616-1683.	1683 (1683)	Wing O772; ESTC R11763	76,397	90

as lawfully hold Communion with Orthodox profitable Preachers from whom he hath perhaps tasted the good Word of God and by whom his Heart hath been opened and Christians in undoubted pious Evangelical Exercises as in Trade or Civil Converse in eating and drinking Object But you say they are unlawful Meetings Then the honest moderate Christian thinks with himself 1. I never heard either Treason or Sedition as much as couched in any of their Sermons or Exercises 2. It is not sinful to hold actual Communion with sound and pious Christians antecedent to the temporal Law therefore it is not sinful in it self 3. He cannot think so hardly of his Christian Governours as that they would make a Law to forbid any pious Exercise but only such as are evil in themselves or have tendency to Destruction or harm to the Government 4. He remembers the moderate Judgment of every part of the Legislative Power concerning Dissenters for several Years last past 5. He considers the Law is a Penal Law and is ready to bear that Penalty with Peace and Quietness And if you think them unlawful Assemblies of that sort as are not safe to be tolerated then he that now frequents the publick Churches will then frequent them when those Meetings are disperst or suppressed But then what becomes of your own Doctrine of misplacing Zeal about Circumstances Rites and Appendages of Religion which a moderate Man should not do Pag. 24. If you leave the Moderation of Penalties to Governous it had been beseeming a moderate Divine preaching of Moderation to have forborn to give Magistrates to whom you preach'd Alarms to beware of Men that design against the Government commonly called Moderate Men the softer Phrase for Knaves but in proper Language Knaves and Vipers If you know any such designing Men inform against them they are Strangers to us that are moderate indeed I have staid Iong enough to view this Picture of a Lay-moderate Church-man I will walk into the next Room and view the moderate Church-Clergy Man who as he is drawn by this Hand stands out with his Legs as the more crooked Knave of the two Pag. 40 42. Upon him I observe 1. That this free and open Preacher saith He cannot accuse any Minister upon his own Knowledg so depainted and therefore this is not a Creature of his own Fancy neither but of some other Men's Fancy sure come to his Knowledg it seems by Report or Tradition But if he had not believed it why would he preach and print it To this we have two things to say 1. We deny the Accusation as it stands we disown the Picture it is not ours we know no such Church-men or to speak plainly such a pretended Conformist as is here represented 2. If there be any such it is not just to fasten that upon more than are faulty 3. Yet supposing or granting most of the things to be true and they as material as any we offer to the Judgment of our Censors some Considerations if not to vindicate the accused yet certainly to alleviate the Charge and take the Charge by parts First The Moderate Church-man is one that upon occasion will marry without a Ring We answer 1. This Ceremony doth more concern the Persons to be married than the Minister that marrieth them for the Rubrick saith Then shall they again loose their Hands and the Man shall give unto the Woman a Ring laying the same upon the Book c. And the Priest taking the Ring shall deliver it unto the Man It concerns the Man to bring and provide the Ring and the Woman to receive it because of what is conveyed to her by it 2. What Rubrick or Canon doth enjoyn the Minister to provide one Or what is his punishment if he do not marry with it We know the Wisdom of the Church looks to greater matters in Can. 62. censuring the Minister if he marry without asking Banes Certificate or Consent of Parents or out of the Canonical Hours from which no Men are more free than they who are called Moderate Church-Men 3. Is there no occasion upon which this may either be justified or excused As if 1. The Minister and the Persons be not worth a Ring 2. If the Man cannot buy and the Woman resolve if they may not be married with a Ring of her Husbund's Gift they will be married without 3. Or in case the Ring be forgotten and the place where they are to be married cannot afford one and the time be so near out that they cannot fetch one Shall an Ordinance be denied for want of a Ceremony Or what if the Man must take his Bride in the Humour Or there will be loss to both if they put it off to another day Or lastly suppose the Parties scruple the Ceremony shall we refuse to execute a Law of Nature for want of an Arbitrary Local Ceremony Secondly A moderate Church-man is one who will christen without the Cross So he will and so he may baptize all that are baptized out of the Church The Rubrick lays no Injuction upon any to bring the Child to Church it only saith It is expedient that it be brought and who in this tender Age will bring a Child to Church seeing another Rubrick saith Saving at the dipping of the Child the Child whose Baptism is doubted of must be dipt and it belongs not to him to see that the Child so baptized shall be brought to the Congregation afterwards and by what Rule do they walk that see good cause to baptize in private because of Weather and distance of Place and yet will not omit the Cross in private Now whether a Minister may not upon some occasions and for some great Reasons omit the Cross is submitted to Moderate Thoughts and to a right Judgment And 1. If the Parent who is a Man of Reading and Sense may have read some Arguments against it which neither he nor the Curat can answer Nay suppose he have but a strong Prejudice or Fear upon him what if the Curat say in good civil Language Except you bring your Child to Church or have it crost at home I will not baptize it Why then saith the Parent you shall not baptize my Child What if the child dy unbaptized You say it was the Parents fault for scrupling He saith no for it was against his Conscience and Judgment But which is rather to be omitted by the Minister Baptism which is an Ordinance of Christ or the Cross which is an Ordinance of Man Especially in a Church which as it requires the use of the sign of the Cross so it punisheth with Suspension a Minister that shall refuse to baptize Can. 68. What if a Parent shall take or demand his Child as soon as it is baptized from the Minister By what Law or Reason can he refuse to give him the Child Or if a God-Mother or Midwife be so zealous call it furious against the Cross as to take the Child out of the

Reverend Grindal we honour his Name and Memory and take this true account of him Had King Edward the sixth lived he had been Bishop of London upon the Translation of Bishop Ridley to Durham He was a Confessor in Queen Mary's Reign he was a Disputant for his Religion in the beginning of Queen Elizabeth's Reign and promoted by her first to London then to the Arch-bishoprick of York and thence to Canterbury he was a right famous and worthy Prelate his care was great to further the Glory of God but through envy of Ill-willers his Power was but small his Place was high but himself made low by some Disgrace by Potent Adversaries which he meekly and patiently endured to his dying day Mark during the space of this Man's Troubles Jesuits slocked into the Kingdom and the Faction at home grew bold This is the Testimony which is given him by Mr. Tho. Rogers's Preface to his Exposition of the Articles to Arch-bishop Bancroft How Grindal contributed you see by this Testimony Hear Mr. Cambden's Character and Report of him Edmundus Grindallus Vir pius gravis He flourished a good while in the Queen's Favour until he fell quite out of it by cunning undermining Arts as if he favoured the Conventicles and Prophesyings of turbulent Ministers but indeed the true Cause was because he condemned the unlawful Marriage of Julius an Italian Physician with another Man's Wife the Earl of Leicester vainly labouring to the contrary Camb. Ann. 1583. What those Prophesyings were and what an excellent Mind he had may be seen in his long and good Epistle to Queen Elizabeth in Fuller's Church History Also you may see in what Honour he stood in the Minds of the Fathers and Clergy of the Church of England by a Letter written by Toby Mathew afterwards Arch-bishop of York in the Name of both Houses of Convocation to the Queen humbly beseeching the Restauration of the Arch-bishop But had those Bishops and Members of that Convocation known as much as the Author of these Remarks or cared as much as he doth for the Danger and Honour of the Church they h●d not written on his behalf certainly Grindal had such an Estimation of Bishop Whitgift then in the time of his Troubles that he with other great Men were desirous of his Promotion to Canterbury and Grindal would be content with a Pension but Arch-bishop Whitgift utterly refused so to do Sir George Paul in the Life of Arch-bishop Whitgift p. 26. See now how the whole Convocation by their Letter and Whitgift by his refusal did contribute to the Indulgence by desiring the Restauration and Continuance of Grindal in his Place and for all I see if Grindalizers do no worse than Grindal the Church may be safe enough Ay but this Remarker sees more into the ways of the Church-Moles than they themselves do and more into the Church-story of those times than we do Grindal's fault was first in complying with Beza in procuring the Settlement of the French Church in London Where note if it was a fault to admit a Church on the Geneva Principle is it not a Grindalizing in our Arch-bishops and Bishops to suffer it now Here 's Charity to reformed Protestants 2. In complying with the Protestants that returned from Frankford but did he promote Whittingham to be Dean of Durham Sampson to be Dean of Christ-Church was he Patron of all the Preferments c. But it 's remarkable how closely he follows the Clew of History Cartwright was none of the Exiles in Frankford 2. Was not preferred to Warwick neither by him nor in his time but by Arch-bishop Whitgift And if Grindal was a Grindalizer Whitgift was for he plac'd Cartwright in Warwick and was by his Connivance a cause of what Mischief Mr. Cartwright did and the Queen was offended with Whitgift for conniving at Cartwright as Sir George Paul writes in the Life of Arch-bishop Whitg p. 55. And now we Church-Moles have by the Candle-light of History found that Whitgift was no better than a Grindalizer and so one of us But saith our Author that when Arch-bishop Whitgift's Zeal had almost crumbled their Ruptures into nothing then their Refuge was as Beza advised Cartwright in his Letter to unite themselves again to the main Body of the Church c. Whereas indeed upon Examination I find two Letters written by Beza to Cartwright in my Edit of his Epist. From former times he descends to ours and in Contemplation of our betraying the Church to our Enemies and our selves into the veriest Contempt and Slavery he might as the Church by the Waters of Babylon sit down and weep when he remembers Zion But Sir you say you might sit down but have you sate down and wept and wept to remember Sion wept at the Waters of Babylon or sate down with Pleasure to drink of the Cup I can find no sign of Harp upon the Willows that dance after a Pipe c. Thus for your Historical Pains 2. The Application follows Therefore as we would not Hypocritize c. and why not Grindalize waving little things we say 1. To your Tents O Israel was the Speech of Jeroboam casting off the House of David And therefore If Grindalizers must be our Name We Grindalizers declare this to you that we will not to our Tents for we have a Portion in David and an Inheritance in the Son of Jesse We will not follow Jeroboam and worship his Golden Calves Are you thereabouts with your Calves The Oath which we have sworn unto David we will by God's Grace perform we will not comply with our Enemies nor cut off our Friends we will gain-say seducing Spirits and look Faction in the Face We will follow the Advice of Calvin to Bucer in the things he wrote of which were not to avoid moderate Counsels in matters of Religion To endeavour by all means ut ritus qui superstitionis aliquid redolent tollantur medio to take away all Rites that favoured any thing of Superstition This I commend unto thee by Name that you may free your self from Envy with which many lead you for they do always entitle you either Author or Approver in all moderate and middle Counsels Nam mediis Consiliis vel Authorem vel Approbatorem semper inscribunt Calvin Bucero And therefore we will let our Moderation be known to all Men altho we will never reconcile the Articles of the Church to the Council of Trent according to sancta Clara no Cassandrian Grotian Consultation and Reduction And now I must leap over the rest of your Book to your Conclusion where you give a kind Farewel In your Conclusion you thus commend us to the Eye of the Government not for Favour and Preferment except it be that which the Nonconformists are dignified with and distinguished by which being dissected presents to our View 1. The profest Nonconformists threaten Danger and Dishonour to the Church 2. Grindalizers and Half-Conformists threaten little less 3. That their