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A18437 An answere to a seditious pamphlet lately cast abroade by a Iesuite with a discouerie of that blasphemous sect. By William Charke. Charke, William, d. 1617.; Francke, Christian, b. 1549. Colloquium Jesuiticum. English. 1580 (1580) STC 5005; ESTC S119230 29,644 72

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their Father and their order aboue the heauen of heauens they haue a rule that the vnlettered among them shoulde not care to learne letters But the Iesuites they professe and teache knowledge Let vs see what knowledge and for what cause It is the very same knowledge which y e serpent performed who promised the knowledge of euill to take away the knowledge of good who promised life and brought in death Therein also the cause appeareth for this master promiseth to roote out proude ignorance minding in deede to roote out the fyncere knowledge of the Gospell which is the power of God to saluation Here the Iesuite most wickedly calleth the knowledge of the Gospel ignorance and the stedfast confession of our faith hope that wauereth not he termeth pride But Poperie which this rooter out of the Gospell woulde plant in place thereof is in deede proude ignorance and a treading vnder foote of y e blood of Christ For it proudly refuseth to heare and reioyceth to bee without vnderstanding Therefore Poperie is that proud ignorance that must not reenter and the disease therof remaining in many is that which must be more more rooted out For though it promise all good things what one good thing can that religiō bring which ioyneth the merittes of man with the merittes of Christ which matcheth or ouermatcheth the worde of God with traditions the commandement of God with the countermaund of the Pope the Temple of God with Idoles Which doctrines and many other are the doctrines of men as contrary to y e holy worde of God as is darknes to light infidelitie to faith in Christ Iesus What I say can the Iesuites religion bring but some vnblessed blessings of a mā which draw after them the euerlasting curses of God The sunne of righteousnes that shineth into our hearts being thus taken awaye this Iesuite would bring vs to some knowledge of the woman that is arayed with purple scarlet ouerlaid w t gold precious stones and pearle Which woman is set out vnto the carnall eye sense by such allurements to recouer y e kings of y e earth her old louers that she may make thē drunken againe with her cup of fornications Therefore in the bowels of Iesus I beseech all my deare countrey men not to be deceiued by this Iesuite who bringeth into Englād a worship cleane contrary to the worship of God For Gods worship is in Spirit and trueth and poperie is in gold and siluer pearle and crucifixes and Agnus deis all for the eye and to snare the heart of a carnall man bewitching it with so great glistering of the painted harlot It is also in all kynde of musike to fyll the eare with delight and in all excellent perfumes to please the smell These and all the rest are carnall intisements to quenche the Spirite bewraying that Poperie worketh in vs not a feeling or iudgement of Gods seruice in Spirite but of fleshly pleasures to cary vs away to the fornications of that strumpet of all the worlde Nowe as Popery is not a worship of God in Spirit so is it not ioyned with any worship of God in trueth but in y e canons decrees of men who to rayse vp their owne kingdome goe about to throw down both the kingdome of men and which is their chiefest practise the kingdome of Iesus Christ Therefore it was too broade to charge the Gospel nowe preached as an abusing of his poore countreymen whereas he himselfe seeth wherewith they are many of them abused from Rome and by these close messengers from thence namely with most foolish and beggerly trashe as Bulles pardons holie graines copper pieces of Agnus dei with such other childish inuentions wherein if a strong spirit of error did not reigne in some I maruell that the beggerlinesse and follie of their religion is not more espied and had in a perpetuall detestation 4 The fourth article doeth shew as much trueth in his words as is in his religiō For in wordes hee doeth openly deny that which is most apparant in his doinges and most necessary for his cause He neuer had mind and was streightly forbidden by his father that sent him to deale in any respect with any matters of state c. Here he doeth earnestly affirme that which must not be beleeued here he doeth perswadingly craue that which must not at al be giuē him He would be thought no enemie of the state no dealer with the common wealth or policie rendreth a reason if you wil beleue him It apperteineth not to his vocation and from it he doeth gladly estrange and sequester his thoughtes But all these wordes are as if a man woulde manifestly wounde his neighbour to the heart and yet in the deede doing cry out saying I doe not so much as thinke him any harme For he that smiteth our religion woundeth our common wealth because our blessed estate of policie standeth in defence of religion and our most blessed religion laboureth in the mayntenance of the common wealth Religion and policie in Englande are through Gods singular blessings preserued together in life as with one spirite hee that doeth take awaye the life of the one doeth procure the death of the other Neyther can any Iesuite from Prage or Rome come ouer to confute and alter religion but hee must attempt the change of the state to the lamentable destruction of the lande Hee can not agayne bring in the Pope but he must take awaye from her royall Maiestie her iust supreme soueraintie and depriue her at one clappe of the authoritie shee hath ouer all persons and ordinances She must haue nothing to doe with the bodie or goods of the Clergie as they speake shee must seeke a reconciliation from the Popes curse her chiefe lawes must bee no lawes the present gouernement that I may not saye the present gouerner must bee changed a newe established and made subiect to the checke of the Priest of Rome Notwithstanding this man that woulde ouerthrowe all woulde make vs beleeue his purpose is to touche nothing Because he caryeth no sworde he woulde hee thought to cary no weapon But is not one trumpet worse then many swordes What manifest dissimulation is then in the champions wordes what playne contrarietie But it is no new thing for his whole pamphlet is full of such monsterous contrarietie while hee deliuereth humilitie in shewe but pryde in deede agayne while he vttereth the words of swelling pryde hauing no matter but vile and base But Antichrist and his ministers must needes learne of their father his chiefest lesson which is to lye that the saying of Christ may appeare Satan is a lyer and the father of lyes As for his reason that thinges of policie appertayne not to his vocation although it bee true in deede yet it is so sayde onely to couer his purpose which is to the contrary For appertayneth it to Saunders in Irelande by
these things and moreouer crucifie the sonne of God againe euerie day in their most blasphemous sacrifice of the Masse yet when you holde vp those handes in prayer I doubt not but it is with desire to haue Popish religion restored to haue the Lords of the Counsell remoued to haue way made for you to returne frō your beggerly estate to the dignities and regencie of the lande And why then doe you that are knowen to make this prayer and to followe your prayers with practises notwithstanding make mention of them as a dutiful and holy seruice towarde the Counsell If the things ye seeke by prayer otherwise were good then the prayer enterprise also may be good but if ye aske the thinges that are euil the praier is turned into sinne and you finde how true the wordes of Iames are concerning such praiers and such purposes you aske and receiue not But howsoeuer you pray or purpose we in all trueth loue holde vp both our handes and heartes vnto God for you that are in darkenes and in the shadowe of death praying him in his deare sonne Iesus Christ to cast vpon you the light of his countenance that you may see finde that righteousnes which S. Paul desired with the losse of al the other helpes preeminences namely not the righteousnes which was his owne which is of the lawe but the righteousnes which is of God through faith This is vnfeinedly our publique and priuate praier for you with continuall supplication that God woulde make vs all sheepe of the same folde whereof Iesus Christ alone is the great Pastor To come againe to that which followeth in the letter he addeth the praise of English students beyonde Sea saying Their posteritie shal not die No more shall the posteritie of Antichrist til they and their abominations be brought into iudgement As for the vertue sufficient knowledge which they gather I would know whether it be vertue or knowledge that cause them in some places to carie letters to enter into sedicious matters priuilie in other places to carrie armes against her Maiestie openly Other fruite of their abandoning the lande great studies beyond sea I heare of none a fewe motiues excepted In the next wordes you professe better vertue and more knowledge if the euil cause were not stil the same For in deede it is y e heauenly gift of God in our calling to despise the death of the bodie for the life of their soules whom otherwise we cannot in our ministerie bring to saluation But your cause tendeth not to the saluation but to the condemnation of those whom you carie away with your carnall worshippings and false doctrine Moreouer it may be these are but wordes of a vaine bragge as hitherto appeareth For albeit you woulde seeme determined vpon your league neuer to giue ouer the Lords of the Counsel but either to winne them to heauen as if now they were lost to hell or to die vpon their pikes yet you that haue taried so long from so great a worke tarie yet longer making no haste to come to so good a match These valiant resolute souldiers vnder y e Popes banner of obedience appeare not euen this Campmaster appeareth not But it may be he hath withdrawen himselfe to write his letters consolatorie into Ireland and backe againe to Rome and among other his large offers he mindeth to afforde vs this that we shall haue some time to prepare for so dangerous a combat To let this passe that which followeth doeth shew his spirit For out it must with ful mouth and great sound he can no longer keepe his own counsel It woulde be marked and taken heede of not for feare of the matter but to see the rebellion of the men The societie of Iesuites proclaime by their trumpet Master Campiō make it knowen that they haue all made a league not to leaue a mā of thēselues aliue free from the honor of Stories Tiburne or consumption in prison til they haue ouer-reached all the practises of Englād Fearefull wordes threatning paper shot But the weakenes of their force taketh nothing frō the greatnesse of their malicious and trayterous purpose For if their power were as their purpose see I pray you what an alteration they would soone worke in this land Neuerthelesse these Iesuites that minde to leaue no way that they thinke may establish the beast whom they worship yet they vtter this traiterous branch of the vnholy league as if it were no other thing thē by preaching to winne men to saluation But I haue largely shewed that it is destruction that they call saluation Therefore to conclude these matters his purpose is with his confederates by al meanes to subdue men to the Popes bondage and in this piece of seruice to preuayle or to die vpon any daungers A great offer for so small gayne a great danger for so wretched a purpose But if the Iesuite report the conclusion of y e league truely when it is put in execution which notwithstanding they wil flee more then we cā feare it wil not go so ill with the Church of God in England as it will go wel with all other Churches For if all the Iesuites in the worlde bend their forces towarde England and come to carie the crosse that here shalbe layd vpon them we shalbe ouerlayed with those swarmes of grashoppers except the Lord prouide a mighty west wind to cast them violently into the Sea but all other Churches shalbe free from that plague But if answereably to our professiō we remaine y e Israel of God though Egypt be plagued yet there shalbe no complaining in the tents of Iacob After these bragges in words only howe readie they are in the planting of Popish religion to die at Tiburne or in any other torments he sheweth vs that the expence is reckoned the enterprise is begun To gather these matters First he publisheth a general cōspiracie of al the Iesuites in the world and they were not alone in the decree to die vpon our pikes or to draw vs frō religiō Secōdarily he forewarneth definitiuely that this their league succession multitude must ouerreach al the practises of England Thirdly that the accōpt is made the enterprise begun In respect of any thing these Iesuites or their adherēts can doe we haue no cause to feare at all for their rage shal turne to y e praise of God who wil cōfound thē for his trueth to get glory to his name But in respect of our sinnes in not bringing forth fruites worthie of the Gospell we may feare least some of these noysome beasts in their swarmes cast some shadow vpō the tree of life Touching those last wordes so playnely laying downe their multitude confederacie threats and beginnings I leaue any further to examine them they are for an other examination as drawing neere the heart of the common wealth for the purpose and execution thereof The